Wes, Have not looked at this in years. What little I have is below. Dennis O'dier ended up in Johnston but can't remember exactly what part of Johnston he lived in. See bottom. Exactly where this Robert lived, I am not sure but the Islers and Reynolds were in what is today Jones Co. What was the relationship between Stephen of IOW and the immigrant Robert? Martha >From: "Wes Coleman (h)" <wcoleman@pdq.net> >To: "Martha Marble" <mmarble@erols.com> >Subject: Re: [NCLENOIR] Robert & Theophilus Coleman of Dobbs/Lenoir County, NC >Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:34:51 -0500 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 >X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 > >Martha, > >Thanks for mentioning this Robert. I was not aware of any Robert Coleman >(or any Colemans) dieing in Craven County. I find that year most >fascinating, since it is the first record I've seen or heard reported that >could account for the death of the immigrant ancestor, the first Robert >Coleman of Nansemond County! That is an exciting possibility. > >I'd love to hear all about the Colemans in Craven County and any particular >information and sources of information on Robert Coleman. > >I have: >Robert Coleman, (c1650-c1710) If he arrived as a headright of Robert >Coleman of Isle of Wight County Virginia in 1667 and if he was 17 years old >at the time, then he would be born in 1650. If he had lived 60 years, he >would have died 1710. If he served a 5 year indenture to cover his passage, >he would be a free man in 1672. Twelve years following this, in 1684, he >could have saved enough to buy land in Nansemond County, a coastal, swampy >area on the coast not far from the James River and the site of the first >successful English settlement of Jamestown. The years of his life span are >based on these highly speculative suppositions. >The earliest record I have of him is that he patented land in 1684 in >Nansemond County Virginia. The 1704 Quit Rent roll shows he owned 1400 >acres by that time in Nansemond County Virginia. > >Robert Coleman (c1650-c1710) had a son, Robert Coleman reportedly born in >1676 who died in Edgecombe County North Carolina in 1761. > >Robert Coleman (1676-1761) had a son Robert Coleman who reportedly was born >in 1705 and whose death date and place are unknown. > >I am wondering whether this third Robert, (1705-?), could be the one who >showed up in Dobbs County deeds. I've studied Coleman data in Edgecombe, >Halifax, and Columbus Counties, but only scratched a little for data in a >number of other NC counties. > >Any information on Craven County Colemans would be most appreciated. > >Thanks! > >Wes Coleman > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Martha Marble <mmarble@erols.com> >To: <NCLENOIR-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 7:34 AM >Subject: [NCLENOIR] Robert & Theophilus Coleman of Dobbs/Lenoir County, NC > > >> Wes, >> >> As you probably know, there was an earlier Robert Coleman d Ca 1721 in >> Craven Co from whom many of us descend through his daughter Elizabeth who >> married Christian Isler. Robert Married Mary O/Dier so they say. I think >> that Robert was also out of Nansemond. Only place I have seen the O'Dier >> name was in Westmoreland Co, Va in connection with the Hardy family that >> moved to Bertie and Gabriel O'Dier had no sons. THere are no indications >> that Robert Coleman had any sons. >> >> Martha >> CRAVEN COUNTY COURT RECORDS - by Haun 1. #13 - 8 May 1706-07 Robert Coleman, attorn to Denis ODIA - yt he acknowledge a patent for a tract of land to Nicholas Isler - Denis Odia of Bath Co - 220 Ac SS News River adj Robt Couldmas Corner 2. Daniel Coleman in 1746 LAND PATENTS - by Hoffman 1. 1707 - Robert Coleman - land on Slocumb Creek - 1707 EARLY RECORDS OF N. C. by Dr. Stephen Bradley VOL II - WILLS, ADMINISTRATIONS, INVENTORIES, AND DEEDS - 1677 - 1790 and VOL III - LOOSE PAPERS AND RELATED MATERIALS 1712 - 1798 - nothing VOL IV - WILLS - 1663 - 1722 1. #106 - WILL of Robert Coleman - 9 July 1721 - 29 Mar 1722 - of Bath county in Nuse - "sick and weak in body" - wife Mary use of my whole estate during her lie and afterwards as follows. Son in law Christifer Runnills - negro man Frank on condition he give my grandson David Dupuise a 6 year old negro when sd David is 21 years old. Wife's son Dennis Odien - land called Hikkery Neck during his life and then to my grandson David Dupuies. daughter Elizabeth Isler - cow and calf; granddaughter Mary Isler - 4 cows and calves; daughter Mary White - cow and calf; grandson David Dupuise - all my lands EXEC wife Mary Coleman, son in law Chistifer Runnills - WIT Richard Casy, John (X) Butler, Peter Green - Attested in ISLE OF WIGHT, VA before William Bridger 25 Sept l721 (this is also found in SS Papers #875/346) VOL VI 1. WILL of Denis (x) Odyer - planter 16 Feb 1746 June Ct 1747 - of Johnston County - wife Ann a child's part of all my goods; daughter Mary - 100 acs where I now live. Rest of my children the rest of my lands Exec neighbors Ambross Aris and John Clarke WIT Richard Byrd, Lovick Young 2. WILL of John (x) Stewart - l3 Oct 1741 22 June 1742 - Craven County friend Jacob Tomson - mare; John Byrd son of Richard Byrd - l cow I had from Christian Islaw. Elizabeth Prescut the daughter of Lammuel and Olive Prescut heifer, horse. Father in law Denis O'Dyer rest of my estate. Exec friends Denis O'Dyer, Richard Byrd WIT Jno Herring, Richard Byrd MARY LOUISE DIXON JONES PAPERS - found at EC 1. Robert Coleman with Will in 1721 in Craven was son of Stephen mentioned in Will of Robt Coleman of IOW as his brother Stephen. An inventory of good and chattels of a John Reynolds of Craven Co in 1761 2. Robert had patent of 634 acs in IOW 2 Sept 1667 - 9 Mar 1682 - John Giles and wife Philarete sold him 1100 acs of land 3. Sept 9 ? Coleman and Richard Reynolds were surities for James Tullany in estate of John Lockhart 4. Christopher Reynolds and wife Anne moved to N.C. with John Reynolds. Name "Sharpe" comes down this line 5. 9 Oct l716 - John Reynolds granted 180 acs - does not say where - adj Azariah Parker UNDER DAUGHTREY FOLDER 1. Dennis Odeare b 29 April 1685 - son of Dennis and wife Mary - this Mary md 2nd Robert Coleman c 1688/9 - not sure where she got this information - maybe from Hathaway NOTE: If this marriage date between Robert Coleman and Mary ----Odeare can be proven, then she would be the mother of Elizabeth who was bc 1700 CRAVEN COUNTY DEEDS 1. Book 2 p 607 - Robert Collman as Attorney for Dennis O'Dia acknowledge patent for tract of land to Nicholas Isler - patent dated 1706 - 20 lbs - 220 Acs SS Neuse adj Rob Couldman - 20 ? l708