ate: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:17:04 -0800 From: Terry and Peggy <hawks2@home.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Martha Marble <mmarble@erols.com> Subject: Re: [NCLENOIR] Duplin Co - Sutton, Ellis, Hardy etc I am having some problem answering this because on a reply or forward your lines disappear and so does the bold so am cutting and pasting and hope I get them all. 1 didn't Benjamin and Sarah have a son William Sutton b 1770? ***Not that I have seen any evidence of although there is a probable unknown son found in the household and that could have been William. The census indicates he may have died by 1840 or at least he is not in the household. Might have to change that on the database but would like to find something else. The William generally assumed to be the son of Benjamin (Oxley) appears to have been his brother, not his son. 4 wasn't Hardy Sutton son of John Sutton son of Benjamin Sutton? *** There were a bunch of Hardy Suttons and I can't separate them. Benjamin (Oxley) had a son Hardy, probably his youngest son, and then in the next generation the name Hardy shows up several times. It is the next generation I can't separate. John b 1779 did have a son Hardy bc 1835. 2 didn't Benjamin and Sarah have a son John Sutton b 1779? who also had a son named John? **** Yes - I descend from the son John bc 1779 through his daughter Martha (Patsy) 3 also wasn't Benjamin father named John Sutton? *** yes and it is proven 5 wasn't Simon Sutton son of Benjamin and Sarah? *** There is no evidence that Simon was a son of Benjamin and Sarah even though it has been so written. According to the Census and other documents, Simon was probably one of the youngest sons of John I and therefore a brother to Benjamin (Oxley). That is not to say Benjamin did not have a son Simon, but only one can be found in the records - the older one. William Creech to Thomas Sutton and wife - already have somewhere 6. was Thomas Sutton son of Benjamin and Sarah? **** Benjamin and Sarah appear to have had a son Thomas, but not this one or the circumstantial evidence does not support it. I don't know who this one was. His daughter, Penelope, was the 3rd wife of Calvin Dail of Duplin. This THomas lived in the same area of Simon but I have seen no evidence that Simon had any children. NOTE: I bet Jesse Hardy's wife, Sarah was a daughter of Benjamin and Sarah Hardy Sutton. The Hardy book gives Sarah Sutton's birthdate as 1772 and her husband Jesse Hardy as 1779. The date 1772 could have been a typo or misread by the transcriber. 7. Could it be possible that the date for jesse is a typo? ****Sure but I went back and looked at that William Hardy Bible this afternoon and the original does NOT give any birth dates for either Jesse or Sarah - just a marriage date so the year birthdates in the Hardy book did NOT come from the Bible. Don't know about Jesse, but do think Sarah's is too early. Her mother was bc 1759 and she would have only been 13 when her daughter Sarah was born - possible but not probable. Sarah was probably the oldest daughter but not sure if she was born before or after John bc 1779. Probably never know. 8 wasn't Alfred Ellis married to Elizabeth Sutton daughter of Benjamin and Sarah? BOOK O p 273 *** Yes and recently been in contact with a descendant who is going to be excited about finding the Ellis family in Duplin. She gave me a little information on the family who left the area. Must be a will naming the father in Duplin but we did not have time to look at the Wills that day. I need some time to sort out this new information and it will probably be next week since will be out of town over the weekend. What is your reading on the connection between Jesse Hardy, William Sutton etc? BYW, several people think that Dennis Daly's wife was a Sutton and they named their oldest son, William. There is nothing to back that up but took note that Dennis Daly was a WIT on one of those deeds. Maybe she really was a Sutton and daughter of William, heretofore unknown son of Benjamin and Sarah. Martha