Thanks to Jerry and Anne for providing me with Duplin 1810 Census information on Simon Sutton and the Dails. THought I had checked Duplin for Suttons but obviously had not finished. Haven't quite figured it out yet but think the Simon Sutton, son of John I moved to Duplin between 1800 and 1810 which plugs one of the early Sutton holes. Bit of a disagreement on the 1800 Lenoir Census as to the age of Simon and the Duplin Census on his widow, Mary or Polly. If it is the same Simon and think it is, then he had three children who lived to adulthood or who shared in the estate including Penelope who married Curtis Dail as his 2nd or 3rd wife. It has been written that Thomas and Sarah Tripp (not proven) Dail of Duplin moved there from Greene. That appears to be in error as it appears they moved from Pitt. More work needs to be done but if the Duplin crowd can be sorted, then it might be possible to make better guesses on the Greene crowd. Martha