A little humor for the Holiday!!! Happy Easter! Dan =================== Subject: FW: Life Spans On the first day God created the cow. God said, "You must go to the field with the farmer all day long and suffer under the sun, have calves and give milk to support the farmer I will give you a life span of sixty years." The cow said, "That's a kind of a tough life you want me to live for sixty years. Let me have twenty years and I'll give back the other forty." And God agreed. On the second day, God created the dog. God said, "Sit all day by the door of your house and bark at anyone who comes in or walks past. I will give you a life span of twenty years." The dog said, "That's too long to be barking. Give me ten years and I'll give back the other ten." So God agreed sigh. On the third day God created the monkey. God said, "Entertain people, do monkey tricks, make them laugh. I'll give you a twenty year life span." Monkey said, "How boring, monkey tricks for twenty years? I don't think so. Dog gave you back ten, so that's what I'll do too, okay?" And God agreed again. On the fourth day God created man. God said, "Eat, sleep, play, enjoy. Do nothing, just enjoy. I'll give you twenty years." Man said, "What? Only twenty years? No way man. Tell you what, I'll take my twenty, and the Forty cow gave back, and the ten dog gave back and the ten monkey gave back. That makes eighty, okay?" Okay," said God. "You've got a deal." So that's why for the first twenty years we eat, sleep, play, enjoy, and do nothing; for the next forty years we slave in the sun to support our family; for the next ten years we do monkey tricks to entertain our grandchildren; and for the last ten years we sit in front of the house and bark at everybody.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Outlaw Lovey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QUB.2ACE/889 Message Board Post: Pleaase help with information on Mary Outlaw. Born 1819 in North Carolina. Father - Outlaw Mother - Lovey b: 1796 (Cherokee Indian) Married Holiday H. Fife. Moved from Kinston, N.C. to western Tennessee in July, 1844. Thanks, Charlie Jennings

Hi I am trying to help Tom. Does anyone know of a John Rouse and Martha during this time period that went to Georgia and Alabama? Gayle L. Gayle I saw a note on Rouse family research you were doing. John Rouse & Mary Mozingo. Can you tell me about the Rouse family. I am trying to put a piece of the puzzle together and can use some help. John Rouse & Martha had several children, one was John born 1859 in Alabama. The family had moved from GA. Thanks for any help you may be able to offer. Tom Thompson Bakersfield, CA legend@bakersfieldnet.com ____________________ Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people. By Giordano Bruno*

Trying desperately to locate Charles McGowan and Maggie Frederick McGowan. Not certain if there lived in this area - found them on the 1860 census in Duplin Co. Have not located since then. Two children that I know of, Mittie and Julia. Julia was born in 1863 and married Benjamin Marshburn of Onslow Co. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My name is Nita and email is - nphil@bellsouth.net.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QUB.2ACE/33.1.2 Message Board Post: I was wondering if you had bible records, or good proof of the line discussed. Not to cast doubts, but just to verify for myself if possible. Many Thanks. Josh

Hello Everyone! I am trying to locate our CAPPS family origins. I have been told before coming to Johnston & then Cumberland County that our Capps lived in WAYNE County (around Goldsboro) and LENOIR County around KINSTON. I have seen our surname spelled CAPS and CAPPS. I am requesting anyone with any knowledge of them or resources listing them, to PLEASE contact me!!! I am trying to finish our family history before my Great Aunt passes on (She is 85 and spent 30 years researching the "old fashioned" way-going to courthouses, cemetaries etc...) Her sight is failing as well as her health so I have taken over this task. My Great Great grandfather was HARVEY CAPS / CAPPS (spelled both ways.) He married Unknown PHILLIPS. I descend through their son, WILLIAM HENRY CAPPS, 1933-4 - 1916; who married Nancy Ann SMITH 1935 - 1925-8 and settled in Cumberland County, where I now reside. Harvey probably had an older brother JEREMIAH CAPS / CAPPS, who was listed beside him in the 1830 WAYNE County Census. William Henry may have had a sister ELIZABETH and possibly a younger brother JOHN CAPS /CAPPS. I estimate Harvey being born circa 1806 - 1810. If anyone has even a clue to these persons or knows anything- no matter how insignificant it seems -PLEASE inform me!!! I do have a few hundred of HARVEY CAPS / CAPPS descendants on file for anyone who can tie into this line! Would love to find distant cousins & share data to inform about our CAPPS family members! Thank you so much for your assistance! I am currently disabled and forums such as these are an absolutely wonderful research tool!!! Gratefully, Ms. Nancy J. Capps

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/QUB.2ACE/1.16 Message Board Post: I noticed in your listing the name Hazel Heath. Do you have an approximate date of her birth? I'm looking for who her parents might be. My great-grandmother was a Hazel Heath. Do you know where she might have resided? M great grandmother resided in New Hampshire. If you think this might be the same woman. feel free to contact me at aspen_cardea@yahoo.com

http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/lenoir/census/arkcen2.txt 1860-1870 Census-- of N.C. residents to Craighead C o., Arkansas posted on Lenoir And Jones Co. archives site. Includes WEST/NOBLE families, possibly with others from Lenoir & Jones. sloan mason

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QUB.2ACE/883.2.1 Message Board Post: Hello Lorna, Unfortunately I don't know anything about my Jesse Fields' siblings or parents except for the fact that both of his parents are said to have been born in Ireland. Whether or not they came to America as children or as adults is unknown at this time. Sorry I can't be of more help to you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rouse Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QUB.2ACE/888 Message Board Post: There is a James Rouse listed on census page 165 of the Lenoir Co, NC census for 1850. James - age 25 Mary - age 21 Thomas - age 6 Eliza - age 4 James A - age 2 Francis Cooker - age 10 Does anyone have any info about this family? I am wondering if this could possibly be my gg-grandfather.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fields/Harvey/Dail/ Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/QUB.2ACE/883.2 Message Board Post: I am a descendant of Shadrach Fields b. 1780. Married to Mary (Polly) Farmer, b. 1790. They had two sons, Jesse and Isaac who left Lenoir County abt. 1830/40 and moved to Ga. Don't know exact location. I've been searching for both of these brothers for some time. There were ten other children: Richard, James, Bartholomew, William, John, Alexander, Susan, Henry, Bright and Sarah Sally. Do you have any knowledge of your Jesse having a brother named Isaac? I descend from Richard/ Thomas/ Bright/ Heber.

Yes..Tracy, I went for a short visit and need to spend more time. The B.W. Canaday home which I looked at, is beautiful (and want to print out as sonn as I get another color ink cart.) It is very well done, all of it that I saw. Rose Parks ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacqueline R. Boykin Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:43 PM To: NCLENOIR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCLENOIR] HPG Website Tracy, The HPG website is really stunning. Great work! Jackie Boykin

Mickey sent this which I either missed or he is talking about a Collection I have not seen yet. Belinda, you might want to run this to the Bertie List. >From William (Mickey) Elmore There is a small letter in the Clellon Sutton Papers I have always found intriguing, though not conclusive "Sally, you wrote to us that Ben was Draughted but was not able (torn edge) march. I should be very glad to know whether he is gone (short word scratched out) or know (torn edge) ha ?? hole ?? not ?? heard nothing from you since. I expect to be Draughted now soon but God only knows whether I shall or not Sept 22nd 1790 (here a mostly-illegible word of about 3 letters that might be sis or sir or something else) This is to let you know that I remain yr loving Brother till death Wm. Parrott H (rest of signature is guesswork) N.B. I have no the time to write anymore. Only I desire to be remembered to all friends (next mostly unreadable and marked through - there may have been another line or more which was neatly cut off long ago) This letter in conjunction with the deeds found in Duplin Co, the estate records for William Hardy in Bertie Co and the determination on the ownership of the William and Sarah Sowell Hardy Bible, leaves little doubt that Sarah wife of Benjamin (Oxley) Sutton was the daughter of William and Sarah Sowell Hardy of Bertie County. William Parrott Hardy was also their son. I believe the line of William Hardy is proven and can be found on Belinda's website. I have information on the Sowell family from the Bertie List several years ago. This also gives additional circumstantial evidence that John Sutton of Lenoir County came right out of Bertie Co. Martha

The Preservation Group and the Herritage Neighborhood Merchants Association is having a "do" this Friday on Herritage Street between King and Blount Streets. 6:00 - 9:00 pm Re-enactors - 27th NC, Company D Horse Drawn Trolley Rides Open Houses in the shops Restaurants Open Lots of exhibitions For those of you who live closeby, this area of Kinston has become worth a day of shopping in the antique, linen, pottery etc shops and eat at the excellent restaurants. It is right on the river and adjacant to the Neuseway Park. Not sure if the planetarium is open yet or not. A new coffee shoppe will soon open in the Archbell House next to Harmony Hall and Harmony Hall sports a new coat of paint.

Tracy, The HPG website is really stunning. Great work! Jackie Boykin

Hello all, Just wanted to let you know of a fairly large update to the HPG website, This is on the Historical Buildings section, Added four pictures of the Phillip Miller Property along with Historical information found in the Sybil Hyatt Collection, (Thanks to Martha for typing this up) Also added 7 Vintage Postcards of Kinston, 4 of which were submitted by Lenoir County List Member Linda Jordan... Also have just posted 4 more letters from the Heritage Book Index G, H, I and J A B C D and F are already up Tracy http://www.historicalpreservationgroup.org _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

>From: "Robert C West" <robert.c.west@ams.com> > >X-Loop: NCCRAVEN-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-Sender: NCCRAVEN-L-request@rootsweb.com > >Martha, > Thank you for forwarding this information on Wealthy Bruton. I have >never seen much info on her. This tells me her father was Joseph Bruton, >sisters were Pearcy, Penelope, Polly, Betsy, Catherine, and Sally, and she >died in 1811 or later (my c. 1810 should really have read between 1806 and >1817, based on the last birth date for a child of hers and the first birth >date for a child of Sarah Jackson West). Am I interpreting the >relationships in this will correctly? That would be my interpretation. >Is there some way to get the full text of the will? Can you tell me what >"Turnage Papers at ECC" means? THe Joyner Library at East Carolina University has a Manuscript Division on the 4th floor which has marvelous originals and copies for historical and genealogical research. I have not seen the Turnage Collection but Roger Kammerer gave me these notes he had made. Don't know if the Will is actually in it or just notes. Either you would have to go to the library or find someone to look it up for you. Martha

Ann, Thanks for your response. I have not made the GOODING connection, but perhaps you can enlighten me. Here are the DAUGHETY (so many spellings of that name!) and EVANS connections I have identified thus far: Alexander W. WEST (1826 - ?) = Elizabeth DAUGHETY (c. 1829 - ?) Alexander was the son of Levi WEST and Sarah JACKSON (second wife). In the 1880 census, it would seem that he had remarried to another Elizabeth, based on her age, but sometimes the census has mistakes in this area. Also, in the 1880 census his household includes Laura GOODING, 17, his neice. I don't know the connection. Sophia Alice WEST (1857 - ?) = Jesse Frederick EVANS (1854 - 1926) I just learned about this marriage from an Evans researcher. Sophia Alice was the daughter of Kinnian Terrence WEST and Teresa WATSON (second wife) and granddaughter of Levi WEST and Wealthy BRUTON (first wife). Lenore Elizabeth WEST (c. 1868 - ?) = Joe E. EVANS (1862 - 1921) I learned about this marriage from the same Evans researcher. Lenore (Lena, Mammy) was the daughter of Terrence Lafayette WEST and Caroline RHEM, and granddaughter of Kinnian Terrence WEST and Teresa WATSON. From the same EVANS researcher, apparently Laura Frances GOODING married William A. Evans in 1883. Perhaps this is the same Laura as I mentioned above. Do these connections fit in with your research? Can you enlighten me more on any of this? I would be happy to share more and add detail if you are interested. Bob W. ----- Forwarded by Robert C West/AMS/AMSINC on 03/19/2002 10:09 AM ----- "A.J.Kahn" <abhk@strato. To: "Robert C West" <robert.c.west@ams.com> net> cc: Subject: Re: [NCLENOIR] West and related families 03/19/2002 05:55 AM Please respond to "A.J.Kahn" Hi, my research is focused on the John GOODING line of Craven Co.,NC, allied are West, Daughety and Evans, et al , from your list. Maybe we can cross lines. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert C West" <robert.c.west@ams.com> To: <NCLENOIR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: [NCLENOIR] West and related families > I am new to these lists, so I thought I would share my interests: > > I am a descendant of John WEST of Craven County (near the Lenoir line), who > died in 1800. I am researching his line in both directions (ancestors and > descendants), and also the related lines. My personal line, which is > naturally of greatest interest to me, is as follows: > > John WEST (?-1800) = ? > Levi WEST (c. 1761-c. 1830) = Wealthy BRUTON (1) (? - c. 1810) > [second wife: Sarah JACKSON; third wife: Susannah WHITE] > Kinnian Terrence WEST (1797-1865) = Catherine JACKSON (1810-1835) > [second wife: Teresa WATSON (1818-after 1865) ] > Capt. Speight Brock WEST (1834-1908) = Hollon KILPATRICK (1831-before 1867) > [second wife: Sarah Ann BECTON (1851-1931)] > Herbert Gerald WEST (1857-1936) = Nancy Maple WEBB (1857-1952) > > After that, my immediate line has left the Lenoir/Craven area. > > Some of the other surnames that married into the West line are: > (1st gen.) BRUTON, JACKSON, WHITE, IVEY, STANLEY, RHEM? > (2nd gen.) JACKSON, WATSON, LOFTIN, ARNOLD/ERNULL, CASWELL, STEVENSON, > PERROTT?, DAUGHETY > (3rd gen.) MOYE, SANDLIN, FOY, PEARCE, STEVENSON, KILPATRICK, BECTON, RHEM, > SUTTON, EVANS, WEST > (4th gen.) WEST, DAVIS, RICHARDSON, IVEY, WEBB, HARPER >

Martha, You and I actually exchanged e-mails on Hollon and Speight about a year ago. She only had one child, my great grandfather Herbert Gerald West. I don't have much on Hollon beyond that (even her death is estimated based on Speight's second marriage to Sarah Ann Becton). I have quite a bit on Speight. If anyone is interested in this family, they can contact me. Bob W. ----- Forwarded by Robert C West/AMS/AMSINC on 03/19/2002 09:53 AM ----- Martha Marble <mmarble@erol To: NCLENOIR-L@rootsweb.com s.com> cc: Subject: [NCLENOIR] West and related families 03/19/2002 08:23 AM > [second wife: Teresa WATSON (1818-after 1865) ] >Capt. Speight Brock WEST (1834-1908) = Hollon KILPATRICK (1831-before 1867) Hollon is on my Kilpatrick database but since I tend not to take these lines much past 1850 I don't have any of her children and don't have any information on Speight.

Martha, Thank you for forwarding this information on Wealthy Bruton. I have never seen much info on her. This tells me her father was Joseph Bruton, sisters were Pearcy, Penelope, Polly, Betsy, Catherine, and Sally, and she died in 1811 or later (my c. 1810 should really have read between 1806 and 1817, based on the last birth date for a child of hers and the first birth date for a child of Sarah Jackson West). Am I interpreting the relationships in this will correctly? Is there some way to get the full text of the will? Can you tell me what "Turnage Papers at ECC" means? Thanks again, Bob W. ----- Forwarded by Robert C West/AMS/AMSINC on 03/19/2002 09:40 AM ----- Martha Marble <mmarble@erol To: NCLENOIR-L@rootsweb.com s.com> cc: Subject: [NCLENOIR] West and related families 03/19/2002 08:23 AM > >John WEST (?-1800) = ? >Levi WEST (c. 1761-c. 1830) = Wealthy BRUTON (1) (? - c. 1810) > [second wife: Sarah JACKSON; third wife: Susannah WHITE] You might need to double check this based on the below BRUTON - FROM ROGER KAMMERER Turnage Papers at ECC Will of Joseph Bruton of Lenoir County - l8ll Benj Tyson of Pitt was Exec, Simon Bruton other exec but he refused to qualify $l00 to daughter Pearcy Bruton $l00 to ________ Penelope Lyons ? $300 to heirs of daughter Polly Peters To children of Welthey West to children of Betsy West, Penelope Lyons, Catherine Tucker, Sally Tyson heirs of Polly Peters were Mary md Isaac Thompson Elizabeth md George Monroe Joseph and Bruton Peters _____ Peters - name and residence unknown