______________________________X-Message: #13 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:11:57 -0500 From: "Jean Shanelec" <shanelec@informatics.net> To: NCJOHNST-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <005901c037df$a1534ec0$6196f0c7@csccusto> Subject: Re: [NCJOHNST] Mary Massengill Is this the book by Dr. Samuel Evans Massengill (pub. 1931) or something else? I am from the Tennessee Massengills. Would like to touch base with you if this is the same family. Jean Jean, I think we can safely assume that we are ALL of the same family somewhere down the line. The Massengills of Johnson County was published in 1984 by Roberta Walker Butler (whose mother Florence Elizabeth Massengill Walker bears the most uncanny resemblance to my neice, Elizabeth Brooks Bannister Thomspon); she quotes a lot from the relevant portions of the S.E. Massengill tome. My family copy of that 40-pound book is with my cousin Hugh Massengill in Raleigh. A few years ago, we made a copy of the pages in SEM's book that have notations made by my uncle, the late George Wilson Massengill, a native of Four Oaks, Johnston County, NC. All I can do, other than assure you that I am really nice person, is to give you those passages in hopes you can figure it out. Page 141 -- Uncle Wilson made a check mark beside the paragraph on Harnett County and wrote "uncle", referring to P.T. (Preston Talmadge) Massengill, who was my grandfather's older brother. Their father, George Washington Massengill, traces back to 5 generations to Daniel II, from whom all of us in the US are believed to be descended, b. ca. 1660-70, died ca. 1745, through grandson James II, a brother of Henry of Watauga. Page 151 -- Uncle Wilson's phone number on Nov. 10, 1927 in Wake County was 4011. I well remember that old telephone; it was in the his office, which my father called "the doghouse" -- Uncle Wilson did a number of things and one of them was to breed fine bird dogs and board dogs of all types. Page 423 -- dealing with a George Washington Massengale, a native of Johnston County NC, is said to have settled in Jasper and Clarke Counties (Mississippi) at/near Massengale Village in the 1840's-50's. There's a pretty emphatic question mark by that paragraph. Page 447 -- check mark beside name of Elijah Martin (E.M.) Masingill of Hattieville, Conway County, Ark., census records of 1830 and 1840. A complete family history follows on page 448. This would likely NOT be the George Massengill Jr. ca. 1765-1822 who married Elizabeth Blackman in 1797. (My grandfather three generations later was born at Blackman's Crossroads in Johnston County.) Page 607 -- Uncle Wilson notes "There as so many Georges, Roberts and Henrys that it is hard to pick out the family of George Washington Massengill 1835-1912, who was my grandfather." This occurs in the 1800 Census records, Johnston County. If you can tell me where your line branches off from the line of Daniel II, i think we can begin to work toward a match. According to Roberta's book, and she's referencing SEM's book, James I, father of Henry of Watauga and my ancestor James II, had several land grants in Tidewater Virginia and eventually took up land in Northampton County NC. James II moved to Edgecombe County (later Nash County); his son George was the first Massengill in Johnston County NC. Several of his children removed to what is now Tennesee, where their Uncle Henry of Watauga had already moved. The Cobb-Massengill House there is called "Rocky Mount", which is also the name of the town on the Tar River they had left. I notice that other place names near the Watauga settlement also come from eastern North Carolina. Annie