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    1. Re: [NCJOHNST] Reply to Jean Shanelec
    2. Jean Shanelec
    3. Dear Annie, Gotcha! I will do the generations later--just love to figure out the fourth cousin seven times removed stuff--but for now: I come down from Henry of Watauga. His daughter Elizabeth married Isaac Thomas of Sevier County TN, a semi-famous Rev. War sorta hero. Their son John Thomas emigrated to Texas, just in time to become the first chief justice of Dallas County. Their eldest daughter Cynthia Thomas married William Jenkins, not the FIRST sheriff of Dallas County (as his descendants loved to claim) but the first ELECTED sheriff to serve a full term (which says a little bit about the longevity of sheriffs in Texas, then and maybe now.) Their daughter Sarah Alice Jenkins married Charles Betts Fladger, a young Methodist minister from Marion County, South Carolina, whose family's fortunes had turned to dust after the "Recent Unpleasantness." His father's tombstone is inscribed "Slain by the hand of the midnight assassin" who happened to be one of the deserters hiding out in Maple Swamp. Old-timers swore that this is where Margaret Mitchell, a kinswoman, got the idea for the scene where Rhett and the solid citizens of Atlanta go to clean out the nest of deserters after Scarlett's unhappy encounter with a would be rapist. Only our Marion County guys got whupped bad. Why is it that Clark Gable is never around when you really need him? Anyhow, my daddy was Joseph Fladger, son of Charles Betts Fladger & Sarah Alice Jenkins. I don't know anything about Massengill Twinning, but I'll tell you one thing--some of us tend to digress! I used to be president of the Thomas Family Association of Dallas, and we worked cheek & jowl with the Texas Massengill Association--who are mostly descendents of your James, I think. Are you in contact with this organization? They own the plates to "the book" and have had it reprinted in paperback several times. I am now lurking around the Johnston County List because my O'Neals & Crumplers come from there--"even on one's mother's side." I enjoy your posts; makes me wonder what my former students are saying about me! Jean Shanelec Ellsworth, KS > Is this the book by Dr. Samuel Evans Massengill (pub. 1931) or something > else? I am from the Tennessee Massengills. Would like to touch base with you > if this is the same family. > > Jean > > Jean, I think we can safely assume that we are ALL of the same family > somewhere down the line. The Massengills of Johnson County was published > in 1984 by Roberta Walker Butler (whose mother Florence Elizabeth > Massengill Walker bears the most uncanny resemblance to my neice, Elizabeth > Brooks Bannister Thomspon); she quotes a lot from the relevant portions of > the S.E. Massengill tome. My family copy of that 40-pound book is with my > cousin Hugh Massengill in Raleigh. > > A few years ago, we made a copy of the pages in SEM's book that have > notations made by my uncle, the late George Wilson Massengill, a native of > Four Oaks, Johnston County, NC. All I can do, other than assure you that I > am really nice person, is to give you those passages in hopes you can > figure it out. > > Page 141 -- Uncle Wilson made a check mark beside the paragraph on Harnett > County and wrote "uncle", referring to P.T. (Preston Talmadge) Massengill, > who was my grandfather's older brother. Their father, George Washington > Massengill, traces back to 5 generations to Daniel II, from whom all of us > in the US are believed to be descended, b. ca. 1660-70, died ca. 1745, > through grandson James II, a brother of Henry of Watauga. > > Page 151 -- Uncle Wilson's phone number on Nov. 10, 1927 in Wake County was > 4011. I well remember that old telephone; it was in the his office, which > my father called "the doghouse" -- Uncle Wilson did a number of things and > one of them was to breed fine bird dogs and board dogs of all types. > > Page 423 -- dealing with a George Washington Massengale, a native of > Johnston County NC, is said to have settled in Jasper and Clarke Counties > (Mississippi) at/near Massengale Village in the 1840's-50's. There's a > pretty emphatic question mark by that paragraph. > > Page 447 -- check mark beside name of Elijah Martin (E.M.) Masingill of > Hattieville, Conway County, Ark., census records of 1830 and 1840. A > complete family history follows on page 448. This would likely NOT be the > George Massengill Jr. ca. 1765-1822 who married Elizabeth Blackman in 1797. > (My grandfather three generations later was born at Blackman's Crossroads > in Johnston County.) > > Page 607 -- Uncle Wilson notes "There as so many Georges, Roberts and > Henrys that it is hard to pick out the family of George Washington > Massengill 1835-1912, who was my grandfather." This occurs in the 1800 > Census records, Johnston County. > > If you can tell me where your line branches off from the line of Daniel II, > i think we can begin to work toward a match. According to Roberta's book, > and she's referencing SEM's book, James I, father of Henry of Watauga and > my ancestor James II, had several land grants in Tidewater Virginia and > eventually took up land in Northampton County NC. James II moved to > Edgecombe County (later Nash County); his son George was the first > Massengill in Johnston County NC. Several of his children removed to what > is now Tennesee, where their Uncle Henry of Watauga had already moved. The > Cobb-Massengill House there is called "Rocky Mount", which is also the name > of the town on the Tar River they had left. I notice that other place names > near the Watauga settlement also come from eastern North Carolina. > > Annie > > > ==== NCJOHNST Mailing List ==== > Johnston County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncjohnst/index.htm > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1

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