Helen: Don't know you and don't believe I've spoken with you previously. I habitually save references and web sites I think will provide a new resource in trying to climb over my brick wall. I don't save spam; but I had already saved the web page you profered, prior to the critical msg. you rec'd. Thank you for sharing something that may very well be valuable and help the rest of us brick wall climbers. The other Mike Sullivan in Louisiana [email protected]