Freda, I think that there are errors or, at least, a lack of clarity in some of your William Ingram material. I am about to leave NC for several days and can not take time right now to send much in the way of additional information. Below however are my comments on the parents of Shadrack and Joseph Ingram. I will try to send more comments when I return. My teacher in this regard was Virginia Howell who lived or lives in TN. I cannot recall now whether she descends from Shadrack or Joseph Ingram--Shadrack I think. Nevertheless, she documented and I verified that Shadrack and Joseph had different mothers. Shadrack inherited land in John Lee, Esq's Will. Shadrack Ingram is named as John Lee, Esq's grandson. Virginia and I both believe that Elizabeth, the daughter, was also the grandchild of John Lee, Esq and might have been named in his Will, but part of the Will is not readable and so we shall never know for sure. In any event Shadrack for sure and perhaps Elizabeth are older than the other children of William Ingram, Testator of 1771, and are by his first Wife. We do not know the given name of William Ingram's first wife but we do know that she was the daughter of John Lee, Esq. I am fairly certain that Elizabeth the daughter was not named for William Ingram's second Wife. I do not think that anyone knows for sure the maiden surname of William Ingram's second wife, Elizabeth. If someone does, I hope that they will share their documentation or reasoning. I hope that this helps. This is a subject in which I have great interest and I hope that those who share with you will include me in their messages. f_w_i@msn.com Thanks, Franklin Ingram, Raleigh, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted and Freda Noble" <tnoble@mcn.org> To: <NCJOHNST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 1:30 AM Subject: [NCJOHNST] William Ingrams again???? > > 1 William Ingram > --------------------------------------------- > Death: 1771, Johnston County, N. Car. > > Spouse: Elizabeth Unknown > > Children: Joseph (1755-1806) > Shadrack > Hester > Elizabeth > Mary (Polly) >