Gail, hope you don't mind my jumping in like this. My sources for Needham Anderson as the brother of Nathaniel are Faye Barbee and Marsena Smith, but I have seen the info from other researchers, too. Until I learn otherwise, I have assumed Neednam and Polly are the parents of my Elizabeth Betsy Thornton Sills. My notes on Needham Anderson: >Some resources have Needham married to Sarah Mill on 10 Nov. 1786, >at age 20. Then married to Polly Haynes in 1800 .Source: State >Records of North Carolina > >Sampson County, North Carolina Wills and Deeds, Series 4939 pt. 3-5 >(1809-1812) Book #15 >Page 226 -- Needham Thornton deeded to Susannah Creel >"I, Needham Thornton of Sampson County, North Carolina for 410 Lbs. >paid by Susannah Creel for a certain tract containing 100 acres . . >. granted to Needham Thornton by patent bearing date December 7th, >1794 . . . containing house, orchards, gardens, fence timber and >trees, with woods, water and timber pertaining to Susannah Creel >and her heirs forever...in witness of William King and George >Wiggins this 6th of September 1810. Registered June 5, 1811. Susannah Creel is the second wife of John Haynes, and step-mother of Mary Polly Haynes Thornton, wife of Needham Anderson Thornton. I don't have the name of Polly Haynes' mother. > > >Polly and Needham Anderson left for Alabama shortly after marrying. Needham Thornton signed for his wife, Mary's inheritance from John Haynes, Sr. in 1825 >. >Some Thornton info: >Thornton, Carrie Etta Jul 1869 - Apr 1897 >Thornton, E. S. died Mar 3, 18921 "age 20 years" >Thornton, Edna Stella Oct 7, 1897 - Feb 7, 1901 >Thornton, J. C. Jun 28, 1874 - Dec 25, 1904 >Thornton, Kiziah Jane Feb 22, 1850 - Sep 3, 1899 >Thornton, Mason Blackman Jan 21, 1854 - Jan 10, 1905 >Thornton, N. A. "CSA Co. C 11th Ark Inf." -no dates- >Thornton, Needham Anderson 1766 - 1858 >Thornton, Riley Jan 11, 1892 - Aug 28, 1892 "son of Mark and >Caroline Thornton" >Thornton, Roina B. Apr 15, 1832 - May 28, 1928 >Thornton, Sarah W. R. Nov 18, 1844 - Oct 18, 1865 >Thornton, William R. "born Madison Co., TN Feb 22, 1842 - died Mar 10, 1911" > >These people above are buried in the Burnett Cemetery, Hot Spring >County, near New Deroch, Arkansas. Probably related to Needham >Anderson Thornton since his son moved to Arkansas. >Source: State Records of North Carolina > > >Needham Thornton signed for his wife, Mary's inheritance from John >Haynes, Sr. in 1825. >Needham Thornton is in the Sampson County, 1800 census, with >Benjamin, Elizabeth, John, Mary, Nathaniel and Thomas with another >Thomas Thornton household nearby. > >1810 Sampson County, North Carolina Census, Pages 160B-161A, Roll M252_42. >Needham Thornton >White Males: 2-under age 10 (born after 1800); 1-age 16-26 (born >1784-1794); 1-age 26-45 (born 1765-1784). >White Females: 2-under age 10 (born after 1800); 2-age 10-16 (born >1794-1800); 1-age 26-45 (born 1765-1784). > >1820 Rutherford, Rutherford County, Tennessee; Roll: M33_124; Page: >162; Image: 94. >Needham Thornton >Males: 3 under age 10 (born after 1810); 1 age 10-16 (born >1804-1810); 1 age 16-18 (1802-1804); 2 age 16-26 (born 1794-1804); 1 >age 45+ (born before 1775)**. >Females: 2 age 10-16 (born 1804-1810); 1 age 16-18 (1802-1804). > >1830 Rutherford County, Tennessee Census; Roll: 179; Page: 328. >Needham Thornton >Males: 2 age 15-20 (born 1810-1815); 1 age 50-60 (born 1770-1780)**. >Females: 1 age 5-10 (born 1820-1825). > >The following comments are confusing, but I kept them for reference: >** If Needham Thornton is born 1770-1780 per the 1830 census and >born before 1775 per the 1820 census, then it can be assumed that he >was born sometime between 1770 to 1775. > she is not this Needham's wife. NA just suddenly appeared in >Sampson CO NC in 1790 with a land grant. ???? > >Needham was a farmer and slave owner of Tenn. where he was suppose to >have died. I don't see how he could have since he was in Tippah Co Mi. in >1850 at age 85 yrs. He might have been from (Ky) he had 6 sons and 2 >daughter. Information from Jeanette Ponder 196 Hwy 57, Chedester >Ar. 71706, Mar >1998" > >In 1850 Needham, age 84, is living with his son Blackman, age 344, >Tippah, Mississippi. > >Duplin County, NC Land Grants >Nathaniel Thornton 150 acres 16 January 1768 Coharie NW >Needham Thornton 100 acres 17 January 1793 Coharie NE > >To investigate: Marriages of Isle of Wight County, Va 1628 - 1800 page 80 >William Thornton and Elizabeth Wills >Surety: Robert Tynes >Consent of John Wills >Witness: Frances Young Jr. and Francis Young Sr. > >Duplin County, NC Land Grants >Needham Thornton 100 acres 17 January 1793 Coharie NE > >Burnett Cemetery: >1905This cemetery is located on highway 84 near NewDeroch in Hot >Spring County, Arkansas >Thornton, N. A. "CSA Co. C 11th Ark Inf." -no dates- >Thornton, Needham Anderson 1766 - 1858 >Thornton, Riley Jan 11, 1892 - Aug 28, 1892 "son of Mark and >Caroline Thornton" >Thornton, Roina B. Apr 15, 1832 - May 28, 1928 >Thornton, Sarah W. R. Nov 18, 1844 - Oct 18, 1865 >Thornton, William R. "born Madison Co., TN Feb 22, 1842 - died Mar 10, 1911" > >Notes that I have on Needham "Yank" Thornton and Sarah Sally Thornton: >In 1860, HH 734, Needham and Sallie are living next door to Ithiel >Lee, HH 735, and their children, with Joel Lee, age 87, living alone >in HH 736. > >Land Patent: Needham Thornton, 74.25 acres, 1 Aug 1860, 7-N, 9-E, St >Stephens, Conecuh 8/1/1860, Greenville, Al. >a.. Name: Needham THORNTON 1 > a.. Sex: M > a.. Birth: ABT 1792 in North Carolina 1 > a.. Death: AFT 1860 in Belleville, Conecuh County, Alabama 1 > a.. Note: > [Luttrell-Marcine.FTW] > >1820 Rutherford, Rutherford, Tennessee; Roll: M33_124; Page: 162; Image: 94. >Needham Thornton >Males: 3 under age 10 (born after 1810); 1 age 10-16 (born >1804-1810); 1 age 16-18 (born 1802-1804); 2 age 16-26 (born >1794-1804); 1 age 45+ (born before 1775). >Females: 3 age > 1850 Conecuh County, Alabama; Roll: M432_3; Page: 369; Image: 729. > Needham Thornton, age 59 (born circa 1791), male, farmer, >born North Carolina. > Sarah Thornton, age 54 (born circa 1796), female, born North Carolina. > Mary A. Thornton, age 12 (born circa 1838), female, born Alabama. > Susan Thornton, age 10 (born circa 1840), female, born Alabama. > John Thornton, age 15 (born circa 1835), male, farmer, born Alabama. > Wm. Thornton, age 7 (born circa 1843), male, born Alabama. >(Son Nicholas Nix Thornton born in 1832, probably married & not living in HH. >1860 (Belleville) Conecuh County, Alabama Census; Roll: M653_6; >Page: 1060; Image: 511. > Needham Thornton, age 68 (born circa 1792), male, farmer, >born North Carolina. > Sallie Thornton, age 63 (born circa 1797), female, born North Carolina. > Mary A Thornton, age 22 (born circa 1838), female, born Alabama. > Susan A Thornton, age 18 (born circa 1842), female, born Alabama. > Wm J Thornton, age 16 (born circa 1844), male, farm laborer, >born Alabama. > > > Father: Needham Anderson THORNTON b: BET 1770 AND 1775 in >Sampson County, North Carolina > Mother: Mary (Polly) HAYNES b: BET 1765 AND 1784 in Sampson >County, North Carolina > > Marriage 1 SALLIE b: ABT 1797 in North Carolina > Children > 1.. John THORNTON b: ABT 1835 > 2.. Mary A. THORNTON b: ABT 1838 > 3.. Susan A. THORNTON b: ABT 1842 > 4.. William J. THORNTON b: ABT 1844 > >From Mary E. Brantley's Book "Early Settlers Along The Old Federal >Road in Conecuh & Monroe Counties": >Needham Thornton was a farmer living in the Burnt Corn area in 1850. >He was born in NC in 1791 & his wife, Sarah was born in 1796 in NC >according to census records. >There is no maiden name for Sarah. It lists their children & their >children's children. >I have Needham Anderson in my file but do not have him in >Nathaniel's line.. Where do you see the source of his being his >brother ? >Thank you, >Gail > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NCSAMPSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message