Nathaniel GILES married Anna HOLMES in Johnston County, NC on January 25, 1859. Does anyone know this family? Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net>

Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1817 Surname: ------------------------- Betty, thanks for your thoughtful reply. I do understand that the History Center is (a) a separate operation entirely and (b) isn't big enough to host our crowd or much of anyone else's. I went to the web-site and sent a message to whomever is in charge when the first four people reponded to the idea of a JOHNSTON COUNTY REUNION! I wanted to advise them of the interest out here and hoped that they will understand such an event can be VERY BENEFICIAL in terms of their futures and funding. Also, there's no reason that the staff there cannot do the coordinating work for such an effort, and for what it could grow into in the coming years, as well as take all the credit! July is good for us, especially the week of July 4th. My Parent's anniversary is the 5th, as is ours. But we could gather almost any time in July that most folks feel their children and grandchildren would be free to attend; I see this effort as primarily for the children. The most important thing, I have observed from a few other such celebrations -- and there are VERY FEW so far -- is to pick the time carefully. It will follow us for YEARS TO COME! Being a writer and an ex-reporter, I know that many small events can become BIG EVENTS during such a "slow news week" as the week of the 4th. John and I think we still have some connections with the "media that counts" so that we could probably "inspire" some coverage of note from Day One... which is why Day One needs to be organized at least to the point that many happy smiling faces can be interviewed and breathe life and inspiration into the event and help the History Center in its quest for funding, etc. If I sounded a little too disappointed at not hearing from anyone there, it's because I know that careers can be made by an enthusiastic response to a ready-made "happening". Now to put it into more general terms, the "what's in it for me?" approach: I feel that everyone who comes, and everyone in the extended Johnston County family who talks with anyone who attends, will be enriched by the experience. A decade ago, I went to the house my Dad was born in, at Four Oaks, with my two sons, and we "stole" the horseshoe he had nailed to the pony-barn door when he was about their age! That horseshoe is the family's most prized possession to this day! Also, I bought home to my father a photo of his childhood home (which passed out of his father's hands in the pre-Depression, forcing them to move to Raleigh and be dependent on his mother's relatives), a photo with the same azaleas in full bloom. When we gave him the picture, he broke into tears -- and my daddy, a child of the Depression, NEVER broke into tears! -- said only "That's the dearest place in my heart. I learned to roller-skate on that porch." I'm not sure exactly where we fit into the Massengill Tree, though I keep getting e-messages from the woman who compiled "Massengills of Johnston County" telling me which page we are on and that the price of her book has gone up! I admire her -- she sure knows how to tap the market. I cannot knowledgeably follow all this right this minute as my husband is recovering from a stroke, and we lost our "Massengills of Johnston County" in Hurricane Hugo, which wiped us completely out 11 years and 9 days ago today... but my mother is bringing me her copy when she makes her annual "trek" at the end of October, and then maybe I can talk to you people a little more knowledgeably. I do remember vividly what a rewarding experience it was, coming from a town where we were THE ONLY MASSENGILLS, to be in Raleigh and find columns of Massengills in the phone book! It's not all nothing, though. What I DO bring to the table is an excellent memory of my Daddy's stories of his childhood. He was born 12-29-09 and died Memorial Day weekend of 1991. I know things about "the old homeplace" that no one else knows, like how many tiny "Massengillia" details are in the walls and woodwork. I live in fear that the current family who has bought the house to gentryfy it will REPAINT (or tear down) the garage, where my Uncle Wilson painted his name in large green letters when he was about 8! If we DO get this Homecoming up and running, all I want is for my children, grandchildren, neices and nephews to have their pictures made beside Uncle Wilson's name in that garage. Let's keep the conversation going -- we have nothing to gain but a firm understanding of our heritage. Do you happen to have a copy of the centennial edition of The Four Oaks News? Mama still has one somewhere and is trying to find it to bring to me on her annual trek south to Fort Myers this fall. Surely the other newspapers have such editions, which they may even agree to reprint, even from the 1790s, if they understand that there is a market. The only thing I remember from the Four Oaks News centennial edition is that the grandfather I never knew bought one of the first cars in Four Oaks; it was a great big huge whoopdedoo deal when they went to watch it be off-loaded from the train. If you have ever read my husband's cousin Olive Ann Burn's family-history novel "Cold Sassy Tree", or seen the movie version, you may remember just such a scene. I am proud to have done the first-edit of the book as a favor to OA while she was dying, and it's impossible for me to tell where her maternal grandfather's story stopped and my reading of The Four Oaks News began! It made a pretty good scene in the movie! For all 120 people who saw it, much less the 14 who have videotapes! Here's my departure from the geneology hobby of the others: I cherish the stories of my father and other family members and friends. I don't especially care for the geneology. When Daddy left Duke/Raleigh as an EENT-MD n the 1940s, we moved to my mother's hometown, where my grandfather was building a hospital. I so felt for him, not ever being surrounded by childhood friends who make doctors less than God and OK to be human, especially since my mother's family was SO dominant in the community. I didn't learn the value of Daddy's story and those of his friends and family until John and I, as adults, lived in Raleigh for 8 months while my husband ran a gubernatorial campaign -- it so happened that Daddy's older brother died during that time, and not only I but also our children learned a great deal about our Johnston County "roots" over those days. Recently, my husband's cousin has moved to Benson; we spent a very COLD Christmas holiday there last winter, and even slept--for her sake -- in the world's most uncomfortable bed -- oh! I hope none of Jimmy Hayes' people are reading this. But then, and during earlier visits to Chapel Hill, Durham, Raleigh, etc., we have both felt very much "to home" when we cross the Johnston County line, and it's our dream to be able to actually spend a little time there. If you know where you fit into the Massengill line, please let me know. My grandfather is George Kemp Massengill, who built for his bride, Mary (Mamie) Wilson, the home at 402 E. Saunders Street in Four Oaks. I don't know whether PaPa was a Johnston County boy or whether he was an "import" from Harnett County, where his sister and her sister married men who had stores next door to each other in Dunn. The eternal "family story" is that four Massengill brothers moved up the Neuse River, from where I don't know, and "settled". My Daddy and his brothers were very successful in Wake County, but they never lost sight of their home, Four Oaks, and always cherished the people they met along the way who could trace their families back to there. On Daddy's last "trip" to take my little brother's children, his youngest grandsons, to Disney World/Orlando, not too far from their Fort Myers retirement home, where he later died, his last great story was that they were standing in line at EPCOT and managed to be in line next to SOMEBODY who was from, or could trace family back, to FOUR OAKS NORTH CAROLINA! To my Daddy, as life went on, that was all he really ever hoped for. "Regular honors" were OK, and he earned plenty, but nothing ever rang his bell like finding (and giving the "family discount" on his medical services to) somebody remotely familiar with his beloved Four Oaks. I feel it, as I learned it from him. When we went to John's cousins last Xmas -- they were newly removed from Manteo to Benson to be near Jimmy's family while he has this lung transplant, which is, by the way, so far successful, I happened to be driving "home" about twilight, and my heart jumped with joy as we crossed the Massengill Dairy Road as we drove toward their house! OK, I'm wandering... But I must tell you that I know the sandy soil of Johnston County is in my shoes. Do you love beach music? Were you born with it in your soul? Maybe we can get The Embers for our Homecoming? Unfortunately, I do the Raleigh "shag", which is the same as the White Lake Shag... but it may not be the same as the Johnston County Shag. I know this because my Daddy's Calabash-cousin Millie Johnson Dorn, who was really from Angier in Wake County, and her many Congressionally sired progeny could not shag with me. But, oh! Lord, how we did try! Our chidren do it better, but they're not only more versatile but are also partly Greenwood (SC) County shaggers! This is probably more than you ever wanted to know, but it's close to my heart and I felt like sharing. I'd love to hear what you feel. It's pretty personal with me, and I'm trying to make it personal with all those who are likely attend the first great Johnston County Homecoming! Annie

Do you have any knowledge of any Dukes migrating to Georgia or Alabama? Thanks Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Talton" <PLaurie104@aol.com> To: <NCJOHNST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 9:38 PM Subject: [NCJOHNST] Duke/Talton > Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1796 > > Surname: Talton, Duke > ------------------------- > > Delores, > The Julia Duke that I have, parents are Elias Duke and Emily Duke. Their > children are Julia b.1817 m. Joel Talton, Osborn, Mary, Nancy b. 1819 m.Moses > G.H. Calb ,Emily Jane b. 1825 m. William J. Thomas, Abram m. Mary Webb. > This is all that I have and I can't go any further. I do not have any information > on Elias Duke brothers and sister. > > > ==== NCJOHNST Mailing List ==== > Johnston County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncjohnst/index.htm > > ============================== > Choose from over 19,000 mailing lists at: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/ >

Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1816 Surname: Talton, Tarlton, Tarleton, Martin, Bull ------------------------- Dear Westa, Thank you for your reply. Iwould be grateful for any info you have on our relatives in Johnston co.I will send a copy of my family chain this weekend.There are a couple of questions you may know that I am having trouble with.I know the Talton came originally from the Isle of Wright co in Va.What do you know about this or how can I find out info from VA or earlier?Do you know why there are different spellings of the last name.I found early land grants from 1700's in Johnston Co would you be interested in them and also have wills dating back to early 1700's with William Sr's will included. Thanks so much, Susan

Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1815 Surname: ------------------------- The reunion ideas should probably be discussed on the Johnston Mail List, which I assume you all are members. I would like to remove these messages in the near future about reunion plans. This system should be used only for queries. I was a little confused as to the reunion plans for all JC families or just Massengill? I think it would be very hard to plan an "everybody reunion" because the Heritage Center is just too small. Many would want to do research when they came and there is only so many books, tables, film machines, copiers, etc. There is only some small meeting space there also. I do know the Heritage Center is overrun with keeping things going. IMO, they do not have the time and people to help much with any reunion. That is the same situation I am also in. I'm sure they would wish you a lot of luck with any reunion you plan and I would certainly wish you the same. Again, please move any discussion about any reunions to the mailing list. Not trying to make anyone unhappy or discourage a reunion. Just trying to point out how hard to would be to get help from anyone here. Wish you the best of luck! Warren

Matthew GILES married Elizabeth ROBERTS in Johnston County, NC on January 14, 1853. Does anyone know this family? Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net>

Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1814 Surname: Talton, Tarlton, Tarleton, Bull, Martin ------------------------- Dear Susan: Thank you so much for your reply and I will look forward to sharing information with you and if I can be of help here in Virginia let me know. My Talton Line runs like this: Westa Talton Morris dau of Leonard Wade Talton son of Martin Van Buren Talton son of Turner Revister Talton-Tarlton son of James W(ashington)(Jim)Talton son of Jonathan Talton son of James Talton (who died 1803 JoCo.NC) son of William Tarlton-Talton (who died 1791 JoCo.NC) All of the above has been documented. Hardy Talton - William's son and James brother married a Elizabeth Bull dau of Henry Bull,Jr. The Martin's connect to the Martin Van Buren Talton's thru Grandfather Van's, Peirce-Pearce-Baily and Capps connection. All of the above people owned and/or lived in Boonhill Township, Princeton, Johnston County, N.C. My father and his Uncle Dudley Lee Talton, Grandfather Van's brother came back to Virginia in the 1920's. Dudley to the Eastern Shore of Va. and died in Hopewell, Va. just out side of Richmond, Va. My father came to Newport News, Va. and is buried in Newport News, Va.(He died at Princeton. I have used my Talton lines and documentation for membership in the DAR and the UDC here in Va. and will be glad to share the details of my research with you, Susan. Good hunting and good luck. I am, Sincerely, Westa Talton Morris 9/29/2000 nnva

Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1812 Surname: Pilkinton ------------------------- I would appreciate it if you would share your Family Tree back to Ranson with me.I had been shareing with Margie Jones But She hasn't answered my last three messages I sure hope She's ok and I haven't made her mad. I was just checking the 1860 census of Johnston Co. and didn't find them nor the Scotts.

Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1811 Surname: Massengill, Stancil ------------------------- Ann, June is the only time that I know I won't be able to attend. Otherwise I am free Friday through Sunday every week. My STANCIL cousins have had a reunion of Moses STANCIL's descendants in Smithfield for a number of years in July. We gave it up this year because most everyone had reached the age when they couldn't travel and the next generation wasn't interested enough to keep it going. We rented a church hall when there were enough of us. The final reunion was held in a restaurant that had several meeting rooms, but I think it has closed. In writing the JC History Center, were you thinking of meeting there or did you just want their advice? I've been in the Center only once, but didn't have the impression they had meeting space available. And they have only a tiny staff, so I wouldn't feel offended if they haven't answered your query. Also, we should distinguish between the History Center and this bulletin board service--they are independent, except perhaps that some of the same people may be involved in both. The History Center is a Johnston county project that has been spearheaded by the staff of the Johnston County Room of the Smithfield library and by the Johnston County Genealogy Society. The bulletin board is part of the national GenWeb project, and the RootsWeb computer, which houses the project, automatically notified you of my earlier message--as it will of this one. Neither the History Center nor Warren Bagley, who manages this bulletin board, was involved. Certainly, neither group would have any negative feelings about our having a meeting. If you want to reach more Massengills you might put a note on the Massengill and Massengale GenForum bulletin boards. Let's keep in touch. I'll be happy to help in planning the meeting. Just ask. I visit relatives several times a year in JC and so can do some on-site chores if no one there volunteers. Any further planning exchanges should be moved to individual e-mails, I think, but I'm posting this to the Johnston county query board in hopes that others may speak up and become involved. Now, to make this a little related to Massengill family history and genealogy and the main purpose of this query board,let me ask: Where does you family fit into the Massengill line? Betty

Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1807 Surname: Martin, Smith ------------------------- James L. Martin, b abt 1790, m Sarah "Sally" C. Smith in 1821, Jasper Co., GA. She was the dau of Alexander Smith and, possibly, Elizabeth Rosser of Johnston County. Do your Martin and Smith lines connect by any chance? Have you come across a family that had a son, James, born around 1790?

Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1806 Surname: ------------------------- Glad to hear there is more interest in a reunion sometime next year in Johnston County. I have written to the people at the JC History Center and hope for a response to the usual questions, like when is a good time, where could we gather, etc. So far, they've sent me a message to check in here for your message. I'm wondering if "they" see this groundswell as a threat or a promise. In any case, we'll choose a date and make our plans. My husband has a couple of surgeries shortly and then our schedule will clarify in a hurry. Do you have any time(s) you CANNOT attend? Thanks for your interest. Ann

I would be interested in more information on this. I am a Corbett-Massengill descendant. ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty STANCIL Segal <bssegal@mindspring.com> To: <NCJOHNST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 7:00 PM Subject: [NCJOHNST] Massengill get-together > Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1804 > > Surname: Massengill, Stancil > ------------------------- > > Please include me in this. I am granddaughter of Moses STANCIL and Emily > MASSENGILL, who was daughter of Wilsie HARPER and Aaron MASSENGILL, all > of Johnston county. I have never known any of my Massengill kin: my grandmother > died when my father was four. I would love to meet some of my Massengill > cousins. > > How do you propose that we go about organizing this function? I am in Atlanta, > but get back to Johnston county several times a year. Are there any Massengills > actually living in the county who are interested? > > > > ==== NCJOHNST Mailing List ==== > Johnston County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncjohnst/index.htm > > ============================== > Check out RootsWeb's new threaded archives! > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > >

Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1805 Surname: Talton, Martin, Bull ------------------------- Westa- I meant to respond to your question earlier about selling information. I do not.I am more than willing to share anything I have with you or anyone else.Since you live in Virginia I would be happy to research anything you need from Johnston,Wayne, the archives in Raleigh or at Olivia Rainey library in Raleigh.I will get my info together and send Susan

Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1804 Surname: Massengill, Stancil ------------------------- Please include me in this. I am granddaughter of Moses STANCIL and Emily MASSENGILL, who was daughter of Wilsie HARPER and Aaron MASSENGILL, all of Johnston county. I have never known any of my Massengill kin: my grandmother died when my father was four. I would love to meet some of my Massengill cousins. How do you propose that we go about organizing this function? I am in Atlanta, but get back to Johnston county several times a year. Are there any Massengills actually living in the county who are interested?

I have lost all my URL addresses because my AOL program had to be reloaded. Will one of you kindly give me the URL for the NC State archives? I want to write for a copy of that will of A. P. BARBOUR. Thanks, Jean Barbour

Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1800 Surname: Lee, West, Lowe ------------------------- Have you had any luck with the parents of Sarah West? I'm looking for this line also for my stepfather, Joseph Blaine Lowe. Notes that he gave me showed her as Sarah Ebbinade West b 1808 and d May 6 1898. Their son Jeremiah Rains Lee m 1) Frances Bean 2) Lucy Jane Bussell 3) Parthena Lenora Porter. His line is through a daughter of the 2nd marriage of Jeremiah with Lucy Jane Bussell. I'd be happy to share any info that I have.

Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1799 Surname: Rains, Lee, Bussell ------------------------- Robbie - have you posted the document that you talk about in this message? I'm researching the family line of Ann Rains who married Lemuel Lee for my stepfather, and would love to see the info. Vicki

Horration B. HODGES married Sarah GILES in Johnston County, NC on January 5, 1853. Does anyone know this family? Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net>

The 1820 and 1830 Johnston County, N. C. census has been added to the web site at: www.rootsweb.com/~ncjohnst/ It seems that the files are getting very hard to read given the increase in columns. It seems that the files sizes are too big to convert them to html with pretty lines, etc. I am open to suggestions though. Please be careful in looking at the proper columns for the names you research. Please enjoy! Warren

Posted on: Johnston Co. NC Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Johnston/1798 Surname: Davis, Stokely, Page ------------------------- Please e-mail me back,as I too,am a descendant of David Davis,Jr and Sarah Stokely through their daughter,Mary Davis Pearce. I have data on the Stokely and Davis families.