I can't find the original author of this message, so I'm sending my answer to the list. Virginia << > > I'm at a dead end with my Johnson line, maybe someone can help. My > gggrandfather was Andrew Jackson Johnson (b. 1864) in Henderson Co., married > 1st Flora Shipman and later after her death married Emma Shipman her sister. > Andrew Jackson Johnson I think was illegitimate; his father was Hiram King > Jones (I think) and mother was Oney Caroline Johnson (I think). I'm trying > to find any information on Oney Caroline Johnson. She had 3 son's by Hiram > King Jones, Hiram King Johnson, Andrew Jackson Johnson and C. Leander > Johnson. She later married and moved to Spartanburg SC, I think. Hiram > King Jones raised the sons. Does anyone know anything about these Johnsons. >> I don't know where you looked; but here's what I found: 1850 Census Henderson County: Dorsey, transcription of the 1850 census, pg.131, HH/615: Jones, King 35 (1815) Caroline 32 (1817) Nancy 7 (1843) Elizabeth 5 (1845) John 3 (1847) Anyone searching in the 1850 time period should search this transcription, as the Dorsey's consulted several copies of the 1850 census for Henderson County, and found a number of people not on the film issued by the Archives. I would guess that for a very small fee the Henderson County Genealogical and Historical Society would search their copy for one. 1860 Census Henderson County: Bishop transcription 1501. (Hendersonville) Jones, H. K. (m) 40 (1820) Caroline 36 (1824) Elizabeth 18 (1842) Nancy 16 (1844) George W. 14 (1846) James 12 (1848) John 10 (1850) Matilda 8 (1852) Emily 6 (1854) Robert 4 (1856) Thomas 2 (1858) William 1 (1859) I can't find Hiram King Jones in the 1880 census (I don't have a copy of the 1870 census). I do find this in 1880 Census Henderson, Bishop, pg. 14. It may or may not be the Caroline listed above with Hiram King Jones. HH: 106 Jones, Caroline 56 (1824) NC, NC, NC Catherine M. 28 (1852) daughter, laborer, same Robert T. 24 (1856) son, laborer Harriett E. 19 (1861) daughter, laborer Laura E. 17 (1863) daughter In Cawyer's Marriages of Henderson County are these: Pg. 35: James Jones, age 24, son of King Jones, and Miss Julia Pace, age 21, dau. of L. J. Pace were married 5th Nov. 1871 by James Bythe, M.G. pg. 96: M. P. Hill, age 20, of Henderson Co., to M. A. Ward, age 18 of Henderson co., married by Thomas Blackwell, J. P., 25 Dec. 1884, at home of Hiram Jones. Wit: H. K. Jones, J. H. Hill, J.J. Hill (note that there was a younger H.K. Jones and this may refer to him.) pg. 14: 2 Aug. 1860 H. K. Jones, Mary A. T. Stayton, by James Blythe, M. G. pg. 23 H. K. Jones, age 20, son James Jones, and Lucinda Henderson, age we, dau. of William Henderson, married 26 Aug. 1867 by James Blythe, M. G. pg. 40: H. K. Jones, age 24 of Henderson County to Mary Hood, age 21 of Henderson County, married 19 Dec. 1872 pg. 52; H. K. Jones witness at marriage of James Jones to Elizabeth Waters pg., 54: H. K. Jones witness at marriage of R. C.Hyder to Cathren Jones pg. 67: married at the home of H. K. Jones, D. L. Morrison and Emely Jones, 16 Jan. 1879 Pg. 112; H. K. Jones witness at marriage of Joseph Jones, age 32 to Emma pac, 22 Dec. 1887 pg. 128: H. K. Jones is listed as the J.P. performing the wedding (18 Jan. 1892) pg. 132: H. K. Jones is listed as the J. P. performing the wedding (11 June 1903) In the Henderson County Cemeteries (pub. by the Henderson County Genealogical and Historical Society): pg.280: Jones Cemetery, Upward: Hiram King Jones 1 May 1820 - 2 April 1910; there is also a marker for Hiram K. Jones, no dates Co. H. 2nd NC Mtd Inf. I couldn't find anyone nearby to identify as a wife. I couldn't find him in the 1880 census when he should have been there; also the 1900, but I don't have that one. Could he and Caroline gotten a divorce; could his wife have been named Caroline also? Could they have just lived together. Where are the Johnson boys in the 1880 census? pg. 351: Cemeteries: Oak Forest Cemetery Andrew J. Johnson 3 Aug. 1963 - 12 Feb. 1940; Emma Shipman Johnson (no dates) Ester Florence w/o A. J. Johnson 14 Nov. 1863 - 15 Sept. 1899; Carroll s/o Mr. and Mrs. A. J. Johnson b/d 4 Nov. 1909; Frazier s/o Mr. and Mrs. A. J. Johnson 1901-1902; Hershall, s/o Mrs. and Mrs. A. J. Johnson 3 Dec. 1899; 19 Feb 1900 (dates don't add up here, but that's what's in the book) Well, I didn't solve anyone's problem but maybe this well help someone. It still puzzles me about the Caroline.