This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------696D2AEE7556 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > , > 9:51) > To: > Bjhulse@aol.com, shirleyreed@earthlink.net, wspate@earthlink.net > > > This is fascination because this involves both Harrisons and Johnsons - both my > special interests. No answers however. Perhaps some clues. > I was about to disclaim Jacob Harrison as an unusual name for the line of > Harrisons with whom I am involved - but I have changed my mind. I refer to > Harrisons best identified as from the book SETTLERS BY THE LONG GREY TRAIL by > J. Houston Harrison. In that book index are numerous Jacob Harrisons, I doubt that > any of them are the one being sought but could be from that family. This book > does not follow up on many lines which left Virginia for such places as Henderson > County, NC. I do not know of a Jacob Harison in that area but we keep finding more > of our line in Buncombe and this area was Buncombe earlier. I have run ointo a > descendant of the famous James River Harrisons in this general area but not named > Harrison. > As far as Johnsons in Henderson County, there were probably representatives > from a number of lines - therre always is it seems and James is one of the most > common names in virtually all lines. Lewis is not common but it offers me no clues > as sto family line. Nor do I see much in the ones married into the family as good > clues. . Leander , John's middle name does not help me. There were a bunch of > Leander Martins in Buncombe County in the Turkey Creek area and the name carried > on in Missouri. > I am familiar with a James Johnson of early Buncombe, in that part which > became Henderson County. This family has a number of genealogists and they have > reunions in the Shaw's Creek Methodist Campgrounds every year. This was the site > of his home and he moved there on Shaw's Creek about 1790 or so. He moved from SC, > thought to be Newberry SC. He was m to Ann Cole. > In Newberry, the Coles wereBaptists and three Baptist preachers named John > Cole, Ann was a frequent name of female Coles, but this Ann was apparently there > on a vist from New York to meet and marry James Johnson, > James was from VA and a Rev. War soldier who was captured and held on a prison > hulk in Charleston Harbor, After the war was over and he was released by the > British, he went home to VA and then came to Newberry SC apparrently as a visitor > to see his Johnson relatives in Newberry. Could be my Johnsons he visited. Mine > lived next door to Coles on Bush River. James and Ann were in Newberry long enough > to have their first child, Hugh. Their Hugh was born the same year that Hugh > Johns(t)on of Newberry and Shaw's Creek of the Edisto River where he had most of > his property. Perhaps he was visiting Hugh those years. Hugh had a brother James > who also came tothe Newberry area but not from VA - from NC. I doubt that I am > closely related to Hugh but he was in the neighborhood and a wealthy man and a > Baptist. It is interesting that Hugh had all this property on Shaw's Creek of the > Edostp River, and James and Ann soom moved to Shaw's Creek in what is now > Henderson County, NC. James arrived in that area so early that he perhaps named > that creek himself, after Hugh's creek on the Edisto. > The Coles and Johnsons of Newberry on Bush River were ardent Baptists, but > James and Ann were ardent Methodists, though they could have been Baptists > earlier, since Methodism did not amount to much until after the Revolution. > As I say, this James Johnson family has a number of ggenealogists and I have > their writeup in "Buncome County Heritage," Vol I, article #408. This and other > writeups of descendants do not help me. However, there is a much more extensive > wreiteup in "Henderson County Heritage" which I have read but do not have. > Possibly thi would be a good source and also a good source to contact the > authors. I might have more clues. > Sincerrely, Cjharles W. Johnson, MD > Bjhulse@aol.com wrote: > > > Thought this might interest you. bjhulse@juno.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: [Fwd: Roll Call: John L. Johnson (1831-1867) & Family] > > Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:27:12 -0700 > > From: "Shirley B. Reed" <shirleyreed@earthlink.net> > > To: bjhulse@aol.com > > > > BETTY JO, NOTE THE JACOB HARRISON!!! Shirley> y > > > Resent-Date: > > > Mon, 17 May 1999 13:45:14 -0700 (PDT) > > > Resent-From: > > > NCHENDER-L@rootsweb.com > > > Date: > > > Mon, 17 May 1999 16:46:17 -0400 > > > From: > > > "William S. (Chip) Pate, Jr." <wspate@earthlink.net> > > > To: > > > NCHENDER-L@rootsweb.com I forwarded this to some Harrison researchers, and one, Dr. Johnson, is also a Johnson researcher. Shirley Reed --------------696D2AEE7556 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (mail-gw3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.53]) by penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19179; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from swbell.net (ppp-207-193-27-21.snantx.swbell.net [207.193.27.21]) by mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00822; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:52:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37443D98.E46C0926@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:51:36 -0500 From: "Charles W. Johnson" <doccwj@swbell.net> Reply-To: doccwj@swbell.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-SBIS-NC404 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bjhulse@aol.com, shirleyreed@earthlink.net, wspate@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Roll Call: John L. Johnson (1831-1867) & Family] References: <e225b650.24736f1c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is fascination because this involves both Harrisons and Johnsons - both my special interests. No answers however. Perhaps some clues. I was about to disclaim Jacob Harrison as an unusual name for the line of Harrisons with whom I am involved - but I have changed my mind. I refer to Harrisons best identified as from the book SETTLERS BY THE LONG GREY TRAIL by J. Houston Harrison. In that book index are numerous Jacob Harrisons, I doubt that any of them are the one being sought but could be from that family. This book does not follow up on many lines which left Virginia for such places as Henderson County, NC. I do not know of a Jacob Harison in that area but we keep finding more of our line in Buncombe and this area was Buncombe earlier. I have run ointo a descendant of the famous James River Harrisons in this general area but not named Harrison. As far as Johnsons in Henderson County, there were probably representatives from a number of lines - therre always is it seems and James is one of the most common names in virtually all lines. Lewis is not common but it offers me no clues as sto family line. Nor do I see much in the ones married into the family as good clues. . Leander , John's middle name does not help me. There were a bunch of Leander Martins in Buncombe County in the Turkey Creek area and the name carried on in Missouri. I am familiar with a James Johnson of early Buncombe, in that part which became Henderson County. This family has a number of genealogists and they have reunions in the Shaw's Creek Methodist Campgrounds every year. This was the site of his home and he moved there on Shaw's Creek about 1790 or so. He moved from SC, thought to be Newberry SC. He was m to Ann Cole. In Newberry, the Coles wereBaptists and three Baptist preachers named John Cole, Ann was a frequent name of female Coles, but this Ann was apparently there on a vist from New York to meet and marry James Johnson, James was from VA and a Rev. War soldier who was captured and held on a prison hulk in Charleston Harbor, After the war was over and he was released by the British, he went home to VA and then came to Newberry SC apparrently as a visitor to see his Johnson relatives in Newberry. Could be my Johnsons he visited. Mine lived next door to Coles on Bush River. James and Ann were in Newberry long enough to have their first child, Hugh. Their Hugh was born the same year that Hugh Johns(t)on of Newberry and Shaw's Creek of the Edisto River where he had most of his property. Perhaps he was visiting Hugh those years. Hugh had a brother James who also came tothe Newberry area but not from VA - from NC. I doubt that I am closely related to Hugh but he was in the neighborhood and a wealthy man and a Baptist. It is interesting that Hugh had all this property on Shaw's Creek of the Edostp River, and James and Ann soom moved to Shaw's Creek in what is now Henderson County, NC. James arrived in that area so early that he perhaps named that creek himself, after Hugh's creek on the Edisto. The Coles and Johnsons of Newberry on Bush River were ardent Baptists, but James and Ann were ardent Methodists, though they could have been Baptists earlier, since Methodism did not amount to much until after the Revolution. As I say, this James Johnson family has a number of ggenealogists and I have their writeup in "Buncome County Heritage," Vol I, article #408. This and other writeups of descendants do not help me. However, there is a much more extensive wreiteup in "Henderson County Heritage" which I have read but do not have. Possibly thi would be a good source and also a good source to contact the authors. I might have more clues. Sincerrely, Cjharles W. Johnson, MD Bjhulse@aol.com wrote: > Thought this might interest you. bjhulse@juno.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [Fwd: Roll Call: John L. Johnson (1831-1867) & Family] > Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:27:12 -0700 > From: "Shirley B. Reed" <shirleyreed@earthlink.net> > To: bjhulse@aol.com > > BETTY JO, NOTE THE JACOB HARRISON!!! Shirley> y > > Resent-Date: > > Mon, 17 May 1999 13:45:14 -0700 (PDT) > > Resent-From: > > NCHENDER-L@rootsweb.com > > Date: > > Mon, 17 May 1999 16:46:17 -0400 > > From: > > "William S. (Chip) Pate, Jr." <wspate@earthlink.net> > > To: > > NCHENDER-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > Looking for any information on my gg grandparents ... > > > > John L. JOHNSON (10 May 1831 - 1 Apr 1867) > > and his wife > > Narcissa Carver GARREN (20 Jun 1832 - 12 Jun 1896) > > married 27 Jun 1855 in Henderson County. > > > > In particular ... > > > > (1) John L. Johnson's burial place. (Possibly unmarked grave at > > Mud Creek Baptist Church or at Friendship Baptist just over the > > line in Polk County?) > > > > (2) John L. Johnson's Confederate service. (He appears NOT to be > > the John Johnson in Co. G, 56th Regiment, NC Troops, nor the > > John Johnson in Co. B, 64th Regiment, NC Troops. He COULD be > > a John Johnson who served in John Fitgerald's Co., 64th Regiment, > > NC Troops, which became Co. N of the 64th.) > > > > (3) Information on and contact with descendants through their children, > > all girls: > > * Ruemma Gardenia (m. Jacob Harrison) > > * Martha Elizabeth (m. Leroy Taylor Williams and John Sullins Banning) > > * Lucy Caroline (m. James Nelson Bowen) > > * Virginia Narcissa (m. Daniel Webster McCall). > > I descend through the youngest daughter, Hazzalie. > > > > (4) John's middle name. One person lists it as Leander, but sources > > were not available. > > > > Also, information on John's family and parents' ancestry. Parents were > > Lewis JOHNSON (1798-1882) and Martha HOLCOMBE (1804-1882), and siblings > > were: Harvey C. JOHNSON (1821-, m. Shirley Ellen KING, George Wesley > > JOHNSON (1824-1900, m. Rebecca Ann BLOCKER, Eliza J. JOHNSON (1828-1832), > > John L. JOHNSON (see above), James Harper JOHNSON (1834-1917, m. Mary E. > > FOWLER), and Martha Ann Caroline JOHNSON (1837-1882, m. Matthew H. TAYLOR). > > > > Thanks, > > Chip > > -------------------- > Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) > by sparrow.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18432 > for <shirleyreed@earthlink.net>; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:45:58 -0700 (PDT) > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03147; > Mon, 17 May 1999 13:45:14 -0700 (PDT) > Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:45:14 -0700 (PDT) > Message-Id: <l03110727b3662c14d1eb@[38.30.10.172]> > In-Reply-To: <199905171857.LAA12285@bl-11.rootsweb.com> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:46:17 -0400 > Old-To: NCHENDER-L@rootsweb.com > From: "William S. (Chip) Pate, Jr." <wspate@earthlink.net> > Subject: Roll Call: John L. Johnson (1831-1867) & Family > Resent-Message-ID: <8WhjUC.A.Bx.Z_HQ3@bl-11.rootsweb.com> > To: NCHENDER-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: NCHENDER-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <NCHENDER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/27 > X-Loop: NCHENDER-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: NCHENDER-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Looking for any information on my gg grandparents ... > > John L. JOHNSON (10 May 1831 - 1 Apr 1867) > and his wife > Narcissa Carver GARREN (20 Jun 1832 - 12 Jun 1896) > married 27 Jun 1855 in Henderson County. > > In particular ... > > (1) John L. Johnson's burial place. (Possibly unmarked grave at > Mud Creek Baptist Church or at Friendship Baptist just over the > line in Polk County?) > > (2) John L. Johnson's Confederate service. (He appears NOT to be > the John Johnson in Co. G, 56th Regiment, NC Troops, nor the > John Johnson in Co. B, 64th Regiment, NC Troops. He COULD be > a John Johnson who served in John Fitgerald's Co., 64th Regiment, > NC Troops, which became Co. N of the 64th.) > > (3) Information on and contact with descendants through their children, > all girls: > * Ruemma Gardenia (m. Jacob Harrison) > * Martha Elizabeth (m. Leroy Taylor Williams and John Sullins Banning) > * Lucy Caroline (m. James Nelson Bowen) > * Virginia Narcissa (m. Daniel Webster McCall). > I descend through the youngest daughter, Hazzalie. > > (4) John's middle name. One person lists it as Leander, but sources > were not available. > > Also, information on John's family and parents' ancestry. Parents were > Lewis JOHNSON (1798-1882) and Martha HOLCOMBE (1804-1882), and siblings > were: Harvey C. JOHNSON (1821-, m. Shirley Ellen KING, George Wesley > JOHNSON (1824-1900, m. Rebecca Ann BLOCKER, Eliza J. JOHNSON (1828-1832), > John L. JOHNSON (see above), James Harper JOHNSON (1834-1917, m. Mary E. > FOWLER), and Martha Ann Caroline JOHNSON (1837-1882, m. Matthew H. TAYLOR). > > Thanks, > Chip > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > William S. (Chip) Pate, Jr., Ph.D. > PATE & ASSOCIATES MARKETING AND PUBLIC RELATIONS > > PO Box 1414 Marketing strategy & communications > Pittsboro, NC 27312 Public relations & editorial services > chip@pateandassociates.com (919) 542-5298 (phone) > http://www.pateandassociates.com Member, AMA & PRSA > ___________________________________________________________________ --------------696D2AEE7556--