Hi Tonja, This is a "shot in the dark" response to your posting on the Halifax County Mailing List !! The earliest known Hale in our line is Thomas Hale, born between 1732 - 1839, in either North Carolina or Virginia. Thomas married Patience _____?_____, in either North Carolina or Virginia, maybe even Halifax County, NC. Thomas died in Halifax County, NC, and Patience probably did also. I've pasted the first couple of generations of Thomas Hale below for your information. My "shot in the dark" question concerns Thomas Hale's wife, Patience. We do not know anything about her parents. Your posting includes your ancestors, Joseph Lane, Jr., (1710-1776) married to Patience McKinne (1712-1762). Given the name "Patience" in your line, and the compatibility of dates and locations, do you see any possible connections to our Patience who married Thomas Hale -- through maybe a daughter of Joseph and Patience, possibly a nephew or niece of either one, or whatever ?? I've copied this Email to my cousin, Gary Hale, in Denver, who is the "real" early Hale researcher, so feel free to include him on any response. We are both descended from Thomas Hale's son, Ogburn Hale. We've "hit the wall" on both Thomas and Patience, so I thought I give you a try. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, John Hale Falls Church, VA Descendants of Thomas Hale 1 Thomas Hale b: Bet. 1732 - 1739 in North Carolina or Virginia d: Abt. July 31, 1777 in Near present town of Hobgood, Halifax County, North Carolina .. +Patience b: Abt. 1745 m: Abt. 1763 in North Carolina or Virginia d: Abt. 1796 in Probably Halifax County, North Carolina ......... 2 Ogburn Hale b: Abt. 1764 in Portsmouth Parish, Norfolk County, Virginia d: Bet. August - September 1848 in Hawkins County, Tennessee ............. +Lovina b: Abt. 1767 in Virginia m: in Halifax County, North Carolina d: Bef. 1850 in Hawkins County, Tennessee ......... 2 Thomas Hale, Jr. b: December 06, 1768 in Portsmouth Parish, Norfolk County, Virginia d: December 23, 1861 in Smith County, Tennessee ............. +Sarah Hodges b: Abt. 1772 in Halifax County, North Carolina m: Abt. 1790 in Halifax County, North Carolina d: Bef. 1857 in Smith County, Tennessee ......... 2 Nathaniel (?) Hale b: Abt. 1770 ......... 2 John (?) Hale b: Bef. 1790 ......... 2 Unknown (M) Hale ......... 2 Unknown (F) Hale ......... 2 Unknown (F) Hale ......... 2 Unknown (F) Hale ......... 2 Unknown (F) Hale In a message dated 11/13/1999 1:57:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, stitchinfits@ivillage.com writes: << My ancestors, Joseph Lane Jr (1710-1776) and Patience McKinne (1712-1762) lived in the Halifax County area. I'm trying to locate a record of their marriage, which occurred in 1730. As they lived in Halifax, I thought that might be where they married as well. I'm hoping to find specific dates and perhaps even a specific location. Any assistance would be appreciated. >>