New Pages added. This is the research of Paul Holt and contain North Carolina Marriage Records for the Holt family. My thanks go to him for allowing me to use this information on my site. These pages are slow to load because of the amount of data there. Please be patient. http://genweb.net/~mwellis/ Thanks and happy searching! Mary Ellis

Sometimes the dress or costumes, plus hair styles, can be a clue to the period when an old photo was taken. Here is a web site that has text and pictures of Victorian dress, including American styles. I have not explored it fully, but it includes male styles and some children's dress going from the early 1800s into early 1900s.. http://costumes.org/pages/victlinks.htm Betty Pace - Norfolk, VA ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

--part1_fb94e282.24ddbfc7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_fb94e282.24ddbfc7_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: MSTEAK@aol.com From: MSTEAK@aol.com Full-name: MSTEAK Message-ID: <787e9bd2.24ddbded@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:50:53 EDT Subject: Re: [NCGUILFO-L] Origin of First Name To: marshallramsey@webtv.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 To list That was an interesting 2 request so if anyone else wants me to look an unusual name up in the Bible, I will send the reference to the closest spelling Martha Steakley --part1_fb94e282.24ddbfc7_boundary--

This is close: Zilpah was the servant of Leah see Genesis 30:9-12 and Genesis 35:26 and Genesis 46:16-18 Martha Steakley

1790s-1840s......Old Barney, David, Barney Michael family...Married into Carl, Waggoner, Cobb family... Few buried at Freidens Church cemetery. Young Barney killed Civil War and buried at Gordonsville, Va. 1863. Some of family moved back to Davidson Co. Married into Sink family. Entire families pages can be found at www.dantana.com/RowanRoots Dan Patterson Rowan County Information Website www.RowanCounty.com

Does anyone know the origin of the female name ZILTHA/ZELPHA ? It seems to have both these spellings or else the census takers didn't know how to spell it. It is not a common name, but it does turn up periodically. I can't think of anything Biblical for this first name. Betty Pace - Norfolk, VA ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Can anyone tell me when Clinard Farm Raod got its name and which Clinard/Kleinert it came from?? Are the old homesteads still standing? Rick

http://genweb.net/~mwellis/ I have added pictures from The Brick Church Cemetery on my site if you would like to visit it. Mary Ellis

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Subject: [OHBELMON-L] relative money values > I cut this out of the newspaper....this will let you see how much your > ancestors were worth, in today's money...pretty interesting! > year actual money 1998 dollars > > 1798 $ 25,000 $ 294,000 > 1873 50,000 > 665,000 > 1909 75,000 > 1,330,000 > 1949 100,000 > 660,000 > 1966 200,000 > 915,000 > > What this means is that the $25,000 of 1798 would be the same as having > $294,000 today. It makes those $1000 legacies on my 1700s wills look > pretty darn good. > Sandra > >

RICHARD MINER was bondsman in 1843 to the marriage of my ABNER PACE (b.1821-23) and JULIA ANN REED (b.1823-25). I think that Richard Miner was either a close friend/relative of either the bride or the groom. It is possible that Richard Miner lived in the vicinity of Guilford that Abner Pace did; Abner had been apprenticed as an orphan at age 16 in 1837 to saddlemakers Hiatt & Jean (probably William Jean). I think that wherever the Miner family was in 1840 Guilford, that is also in the neighborhood of where Abner Pace was living, probably in the household of either Hiatt or Jean. I would be interested in contacting researchers of Richard Miner of Guilford, NC. Betty Pace - Norfolk, VA ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Does anyone know the correct url for quaker request-L or something like that?

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------150C2C4C5782 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PRESBYTERIAN CHURCHES Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 20:26:28 -0500 From: Jane Kneale <janek@ponyexpress.net> To: NCGUILO-L@rootsweb.com Hi, I am looking for information on Presbyterian Churches in Guilford Co. My ancestors were Presbyterian and I am hoping to locate parents and siblings in the records. Their name was Starrett and I believe that they might have belonged to Haw River Presbyterian Church or one near Greensboro. The moved to Easton Mo in 1858. I have information from 1858 but nothing before except for finding them in the 1850 Census stating that they were born in Guilford NC. Their names are Alexander and Nancy Gray Starrett. If any one can help me locate records for any or all presbyterian churches in the area it would be appreciated. Thank you. Jane in St. Joseph, MO --------------150C2C4C5782 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from localhost (localhost) by sleepy.ponyexpress.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with internal id UAA08364; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:21:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:21:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON> Message-Id: <199908030121.UAA08364@sleepy.ponyexpress.net> To: <janek@ponyexpress.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="UAA08364.933643305/sleepy.ponyexpress.net" Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --UAA08364.933643305/sleepy.ponyexpress.net The original message was received at Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:21:40 -0500 (CDT) from [12.14.203.111] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <NCGUILO-@rootsweb.com> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to bl-3.rootsweb.com.: >>> RCPT To:<NCGUILO-@rootsweb.com> <<< 550 <NCGUILO-@rootsweb.com>... User unknown 550 <NCGUILO-@rootsweb.com>... User unknown --UAA08364.933643305/sleepy.ponyexpress.net Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; sleepy.ponyexpress.net Received-From-MTA: DNS; [12.14.203.111] Arrival-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:21:40 -0500 (CDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; NCGUILO-@rootsweb.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; bl-3.rootsweb.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 <NCGUILO-@rootsweb.com>... User unknown Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:21:44 -0500 (CDT) --UAA08364.933643305/sleepy.ponyexpress.net Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: <janek@ponyexpress.net> Received: from gateway ([12.14.203.111]) by sleepy.ponyexpress.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA08359 for <NCGUILO-@rootsweb.com>; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:21:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37A64544.2800@ponyexpress.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 20:26:28 -0500 From: Jane Kneale <janek@ponyexpress.net> Reply-To: janek@ponyexpress.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: NCGUILO-@rootsweb.com Subject: PRESBYTERIAN CHURCHES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am looking for information on Presbyterian Churches in Guilford Co. = My ancestors were Presbyterian and I am hoping to locate parents and siblings in the records. Their name was Starrett and I believe that they might have belonged to Haw River Presbyterian Church or one near Greensboro. The moved to Easton Mo in 1858. I have information from 1858 but nothing before except for finding them in the 1850 Census stating that they were born in Guilford NC. Their names are Alexander and Nancy Gray Starrett. If any one can help me locate records for any or all presbyterian churches in the area it would be appreciated. Thank you. Jane in St. Joseph, MO -- = MZ=90 --UAA08364.933643305/sleepy.ponyexpress.net-- --------------150C2C4C5782--

Help please. Can anyone from the list tell what books I find info on the Coopers in Guilford circa 1800. I have some land info that may link John, William, David, Thomas and Elizabeth. I have mrgs and census data on these folks 1790-1930. I have searched for any info that may tell me who there children were or their relationship to each other and have been unable to link any of them to my ggggf John Cooper from NC. Thanks for any help or direction you can give me to research. tootie@netnitco.net

I was just reading through the contents of back issues of the Journal of the Guilford Gen. Society, and I noticed something called the 1850 Guil. Co. Mortality Schedule in the issue for the Fall 1980. I don't understand what this mortality schedule is. Does it mean everyone who died there in 1849? If so, does each of the earlier census reports (and later ones too) have this information? Where do you find it on the census films? Betty Pace - Norfolk ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

I am searching for the ancestors of James Floyd White. He ran a Grist Mill in Guilford County. He married Sarah Ledbetter in Stokes County. She died in 1850 approx. and he remarried. His children were William Franklin, Martha and Nancy. He remarried to a woman by the name of Shields possibly. He may have married Amanda Fry or possibly someone whose first name was Eliza. More children of this marriage were Henry, Dave, Ike (Isaac?) Elisa, Sally and Mary. I think his father was a Quaker and that he was born in Rockingham County. They all moved to Indiana eventually. Does anyone know about the Mill or Mills which are on an old Guilford map referring to a James White Mill. I cannot seem to get any more information than this regarding James Floyd White's parents. I would surely appreciate any suggestions or help anyone might have. Thank you very much. Sarah

Help! I've been stuck at this brick wall for several years. Anyone see a connection? Thanks, Dave Husband: James Brown Sr. #372 Born: in: Died: in: Father: Mother: C/B b. 1749 in 1818 in Ashtabula County, transferred pension from New York, served in Revolutionary War, Massachusetts Continental Line, d. 9 Jul 1831 "were in the Lexington Alarm and at Bunker Hill" Wife: Martha ?? #373 Married: in: Born: in: Died: in: Father: Mother: M Child 1 James Brown Jr. #365 Born: in: Died: 1831 in: 1 Spouse: Martha ?? #366 Married: 17 Jun 1801 in: F Child 2 Polly Brown #374 died at age: 69 Born: 26 Jun 1779 in: Died: 12 Mar 1849 in: Spouse: William Beard #376 b. 12 Dec 1777 Married: 1798 in: F Child 3 Rebecca Brown #375 died at age: 81 Born: 1777 in: Died: 21 Jul 1858 in: Spouse: David Beard #377 b. 29 Apr 1774 d. 13 Jul 1849 Married: 4 Jul 1796 in: Husband: James Brown Jr. #365 Born: in: Died: 1831 in: Father: James Brown Sr. #372 Mother: Martha ?? #373 Wife: Martha ?? #366 Married: 17 Jun 1801 in: Born: in: Died: in: Father: Mother: M Child 1 William Brown #355 died at age: 58 Born: 1788 in: Died: 12 Jul 1846 in: Spouse: Elizabeth Ley #356 also known as: Leh b. 1792 d. 25 Nov 1847 Married: 6 Apr 1812 in: Guilford Cty, NC Farm in Wayne Cty NE of Hoover Farm Moved from TN. 1820 to Richmond, Wayne Co., IN. M Child 2 Joseph Brown #367 Born: in: Died: in: M Child 3 Eli Brown #368 died at age: 77 Born: 21 Aug 1789 in: Died: 6 May 1867 in: Richmond, In 2 Buried: in: Earlham Cem Richmond, In Sect 1 Spouse: Martha Hawkins #370 b. 1799 d. 11 Sep 1877 Married: 3 Sep 1817 in: F Child 4 Sarah Brown #369 Born: in: Died: in: Spouse: Elijah Coffin #371 b. 1789 d. 1862 Married: 2 Sep 1825 in: F Child 5 ? Brown #3812 Born: in: Died: in: Wife: Polly Brown #374 died at age: 69 Born: 26 Jun 1779 in: Died: 12 Mar 1849 in: Father: James Brown Sr. #372 Mother: Martha ?? #373 Husband: William Beard #376 Married: 1798 in: her age: 18 his age: 20 Born: 12 Dec 1777 in: Died: in: Father: Mother: Beard's Hat Shop Wife: Rebecca Brown #375 died at age: 81 Born: 1777 in: Died: 21 Jul 1858 in: Father: James Brown Sr. #372 Mother: Martha ?? #373 Husband: David Beard #377 died at age: 75 Married: 4 Jul 1796 in: her age: 19 his age: 22 Born: 29 Apr 1774 in: Died: 13 Jul 1849 in: Father: Mother: Beard's Hat Shop

Hi list, Would like to take a moment to announce the July submissions to the Guilford County Archives at NCGenWeb and can be seen at this URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/guilford.htm Deeds: Various ROSS Deeds Submitted by Martha Thayer Various RUSSELL Deeds Submitted by Martha Thayer Military: Captain Henry Connelly Pension Declaration - 1833 Submitted by Harry Newspapers: The Patriot - 1835 Submitted by Wayne Dunn The Patriot - 1836 Submitted by Wayne Dunn The Patriot - 1838 Submitted by Wayne Dunn The Patriot - 1839 Submitted by Wayne Dunn Wills: Andrew Russell Submitted by Christina Hunt Thanks to all for the submissions!!! Sincerely, Cathy Cranford-Ailstock Windwalker@gowebway.com http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cranford/ Listowner for The CRANFORD, AILSTOCK, BRUTON, HATHCOCK, and JURY Surname Lists NCGenWeb Archive File Manager For: Anson, Bladen, Chatham, Clay, Cumberland, Gaston, Guilford, Hoke, Montgomery, Moore, Randolph, Richmond, Stanly, Union Counties of North Carolina http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/ncfiles.htm *** Remember what you have seen, Because everything forgotten returns to the circling winds. Navajo Wind Chant

Dear List Were hostind the 2nd annual SHOEMAKER / WITT Sept. 19, 1999 Desendents of: CONRAD SHOEMAKER b: 10-14-1737 WIFE: SUSANNAH YOUNGMAN CHILDREN: GEORGE JOHN ANNA JACOB ADAM CATHERINE MARY CONRAD SUSANNA DANIEL JOHN CHRISTIAN ELIZABETH Descendents of: MICHAEL WITT b: abt. 1744, Berks Co., PA WIFE: MARY ? Children: JOHANNES MARY CHRISTINA JANE ELISABETH ESTHER ANNA MARGARET ROSANAH RACHEL MICHAEL WILLIAM CATHERN If interested please email me for information THANK YOU ROGER R SPENCER JR LOGANSPORT, INDIANA

I thought this might be useful for those of you trying to figure out the companies in the 1790 Burke Co. census. Several nice people got this for me. Betty Pace --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- Here's what I was thinking of--from Burke Journal -Dec.1988 Issue - provided to the Journal by Betsy Dodd Pittman: 1st Company Present McDowell Co. & part of present northern Rutherford Co. 2nd " Northeastern Burke Co & present southeastern Caldwell Co. 3rd " Mid & western Burke Co. - Oak Hill area 4th " Western Burke Co. & portions of present southeastern McDowell & northern Rutherford Counties 5th " Upper Burke Co. & portions of present Caldwell Co. - Globe, Edgemont, Collettsville 6th " Western Burke Co. - Bridgewater, Lake James; some in present eastern McDowell Co. 7th " Mid Burke Co. - Quaker Meadows 8th " North side of Catawba River in present day Caldwell Co. - Granite Falls 9th " North of Catawba River in present Caldwell Co. 10th " Present Mitchell/Avery Counties 11th " Cut off in 1791 to form Buncombe Co. 12th " Present Mitchell/Avery Counties 13th " South & southeastern Burke Co. - Salem; South Mountains; George Hildebrand areas Berna Stillwell abner@napanet.net Napa Valley, CA ==== NCROOTS Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Discussion on this list is restricted to NORTH CAROLINA GENEALOGY only. Please do not post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, etc. For comments or list administration questions, contact Elizabeth Harris, ncgen@mindspring.com ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <NCROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from aol.com (rly-yg04.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.4]) by air-yg05 (v60.18) with ESMTP; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:20:41 -0400 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (v60.18) with ESMTP; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:20:23 2000 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA22477; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907281920.MAA00396@daffy.napanet.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:22:52 -0000 x-sender: abner@pop.napanet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Berna Stillwell <abner@napanet.net> Old-To: "NCROOTS List Members" <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: [NCROOTS-L] Burke Co.NC - Military Companies Locations - 1790 Census Resent-Message-ID: <Qgu9f.A.eeF.ve1n3@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/8565 X-Loop: NCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: NCROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com >> --------- End forwarded message ---------- ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.