I got several replies from Rowan Roots, some a little contradictory. Apparently if you can get the record from the Railroad Board (federal govt) for $16, you will get a very fully folder of the different railroads, dates, places of employment--these men tended to move a lot. >From what I can tell, even people under a railroad pension plan (which paid better) still had to register for a SS number, and apparently that number is what you need to get a search of the rr board records. You might try: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson10.htm >From there, you can get a link to rootsweb SS index (not complete), and this appears to be fuller than the one on Ancestry.com. I think I may have found my fellow's SS number and month/year of death, but not sure yet. This registration appears to have been in 1937 for everyone, not in 1933 as I assumed. Others have told me that from the rr board they got a full record of which railroad in which year etc. I would love to have this and will probably order from the board now that I have the SS number. If you are interested in railroads in the New England area, try: http://www.rrhistorical.com/rrdata/ Betty On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:35:29 -0700 "Tegwin Matenaer" <tegwinart@snowcrest.net> writes: >did you ever get a reply to this? I'd like to know also as an older >brother >to my dad was a retired RR man along with several older relatives, >thanks, >teg >----- Original Message ----- >From: Betty A. Pace <bapace2@juno.com> >To: <NCGUILFO-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 12:48 AM >Subject: [NCGUILFO] Railroad Retirement > > >> In 1933 when the Social Security system was begun, apparently >employees >> of the railroads were exempt. Therefore, they never participated in >the >> Social Security program and have no records there. >> >> How did railroad retirement work? Was it a separate federal program >or >> was there a pension fund handled by each individual railroad >company? >> Where would these records be held? >> >> Betty Pace - Norfolk, VA >> >> ________________________________________________________________ >> YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >> Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >> Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >> http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >> > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I am looking for an obituary for my gggrandfather. I was wondering if anyone would be going to the library anytime and might be willing to make a copy for me. I am interested in getting a copy and most importantly finding out what cemetery he is buried in. Stephen GALES born abt 1834 died March 14.1919 Wife Annie Ranier He was taken back to Hope Mills, NC to be buried according to his death certificate, but there was no mention of where. I am willing to pay for the copying, postage and time. Thanks, Windy Haulbrass@aol.com

Hello list(s) I have just added a new section to the Chatham Co., page. I've extracted all the free blacks in the first half of the 1850 census and listed them separately, and the families they were enumerated with. It makes it much easier to find them and see the relationships. Hope this will help some one who is searching for their ancestors of black or mixed heritage. I am asking for anyone who has old bible records that have the slaves listed in the bible, to please contact me with the information. I have quite a few names in an old bible that I have access to and plan on extracting that. I would like to have any other that you would be willing to send me.. Thanks, Sue Ashby http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncchatha/chatham.htm

In 1933 when the Social Security system was begun, apparently employees of the railroads were exempt. Therefore, they never participated in the Social Security program and have no records there. How did railroad retirement work? Was it a separate federal program or was there a pension fund handled by each individual railroad company? Where would these records be held? Betty Pace - Norfolk, VA ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hi, I'm looking for the parents of Mary DILLING who married 20 Jan 1791 Charles TUCKER in Guilford Co. Thanks...Patty

I am searching VINCENT RUSSOM m RACHEL SULLIVAN Thanks Kittie

I am researching the HARDIN/HARDEN family and the DEAN family. They lived in Guilford Co until about 1837 when they moved to Wayne Co. Ind. Any connections out there? Mary

(Forgive the erroneous Subject line of my previous post. I made a search engine for Randolph County also. You can see all of the search engines at http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/other.htm) I've added an obituary search engine to my site that will keyword search all of the online obits of the High Point Enterprise. The URL is http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/counties/nc-guilford.htm Hope it helps someone find some surnames! Thanks, Bill Cribbs Obituary Central http://www.obitcentral.com

I've added an obituary search engine to my site that will keyword search all of the online obits of the High Point Enterprise. The URL is http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/counties/nc-guilford.htm Hope it helps someone find some surnames! Thanks, Bill Cribbs Obituary Central http://www.obitcentral.com

To: NCGUILFO-L/post From: Dwight Ozment <dwozment@worldnet.att.net> Subject: PHIBBS-MAXWELL-HOLLOWAY-OZMENT Hi, Rachel I don't have anything about PHIBBS or MAXWELL families. However, I do have a Martha HOLLOWAY in my database. This Martha HOLLOWAY was born 12 Dec 1804, Guilford Co., NC and died 28 April 1849, Wilson Co., TN. She married James H. OZMENT 25 May 1825 in TN. Her parents were Levi and Judith HOLLOWAY. She died two months after her 10th child, John W. OZMENT was born. Could your PHIBBS surname possibly been spelled PHIPPS? I do have a Martha E. PHIPPS (b. 27 Oct 1822, Guilford Co., NC ; d. 20 July 1886, Guilford Co., NC). She married Calvin OZMENT 20 Aug 1839, Guilford Co., NC. I do not have anything on Martha PHIPPS' parents. If you are interested in any of these folks, please contact me. Dwight dwozment@worldnet.att.net

I am researching these families in Guilford County prior to 1860: Barham and Pegram Martha

Researching 'RANKIN' . An African-American family. Judi

John PAVEY married Frances "Fanny" MARTIN (b: Oct. 19, 1758) in Guilford Co, Jan. 21,1801. Frances Martin Pavey was the dau. of James MARTIN (d: 1796, Guilford Co) and wife, Mary (Quakers.) Fanny was 'dismous' from the Quakers when she married John PAVEY. Levin WILLIAMS - 1800 & 1810 Guilford Co. census. Marsha McWilliams

Gamble/Coe/Boggs/Hackett/Weatherly Looking especially siblings of James Gamble m. Feb 16,1790 to Hannah Coe. He died 1819. Trying to establish when and where he arrived from Scotland. Son John Gamble b. 1795 m. Sally Boggs Feb 7 1821 of Orange Cnty he died 1850 in Guilford Cnty, Joseph Wesley Gamble wagon maker m. Mary Elizabeth Hackett and moved by covered wagon with 40 other Greensboro families to West Newton, IN in 1850. Jane Gamble b. 1805 was bound out to Samuel Gamble at 14-15, married Benton Field at 15 and later at 19 married John Addison Weatherly. Jane died in Guilford Cnty 1897. Robin Gamble O'Connor

Searching for the family of; McCanless/McCandless. Shirley/Sherley/Shurley. Ballard Robert McCanless/McCandless who married Mary Shirley/Shurley. Mary is the daughter of William and Drucilla Shirley. No other imfo. Children of Robert and Mary: Sally (Sarah) William James Ann William James McCanless married 28 August 1851 to Rebecca Ballard daughter of Jesse Ballard and Nancy Beard. Guilford Co. NC. Children of William James and Rebecca are: William Wesley ( I have imfo) Julius Cary ( I have imfo) Jesse Robert (my great grandfather, need more imfo) James Authur Pinkey Stewart Sarah Ann Linda Coulson Heilander

Andrew Jackson Sr / Nancy Bridges 3/5/1792 Guilford Co., NC Andrew Jackson Jr / Sarah Davis 7/23/1817 Guilford Co., NC Dorothy

I am reserching an ancestor of mine who supposedly recieved a divorce around 1830 or so. Does anyone know if they kept any records on divorces around that time? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Carol Leonard

FRAZIER/MILLIKAN/BULLA/PARSONS/FISHER Donna Frazer Doyle

My ancestor was ABNER PACE, 16 years old in 1837 when named an apprentice orphan to saddlemakers Hiatt & Jean in Guilford Co., NC; thus he was born around 1821-23. Other orphan Paces apprenticed in the same time frame were: Needham, Young, Absalom, Wiseman, Geo. Washington (called "Johnson), and Pace girls Lively and Edy. Associated with Needham and Young Pace was a Ziltha/Zelpha Pace (b. around 1800); around 1858 she went with Needham and Young Pace to Mecklenburg Co., NC, along with her retarded son David Pace. I do not know what the relationship was between these Paces, but I think the tie was a family one since Young Pace named one of his sons Abner Pace. In 1843 ABNER PACE married JULIA ANN REED (b. around 1823-25) in Guilford Co. They immediately moved to Rowan Co., where they had a son named JOHN FLETCHER PACE (1844-1901). When Abner and Julia Ann were married, the bondsman at their wedding was a Richard Miner (could be misspelled). I do not know the relationship between bride and groom and Mr. Miner. I am interested in finding the names of the parents of my orphan ABNER PACE and his wife JULIA ANN REED. Julia Ann Reed had a young sister (CATHERINE or M. C. CATHERINE REED) born about 1830; she lived with them in Rowan Co., NC at the time of the 1870 census. Betty Pace - Norfolk, VA ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Harrell/Nelson/Smith Pat