I have found a marriage between Allen Green King to Catherine Brown on September 30, 1818 in Guilford Co., NC. This is all the info I have on this couple. I think it is possible that he later married Leah Nicks in 1843 in Randolph Co., NC. and migrated to Bedford Co., TN. and was there in the 1850 Bedford Co. Census. I would like to know if anyone researches this Allen Green King. I would like to know what became of his first wife Catherine Brown and if they had children. Judy Sanders

I wanted to pass this information along to others who have German immigrant ancestors in Orange (now Guilford) County, NC. Be sure you visit the website below for the early history of Frieden's church (and the Paletines arriving from Germany > PA > NC). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy or Tom Bruckner" <bruckner@mindspring.com> To: <NC-FRIEDENSCHURCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 6:51 AM Subject: [NC-FRIEDENSCHURCH] Stahakers Church, or Sshaakers Church -- often called as if spelled Shoemakers Church, the modern pronunciation > As mentioned in an earlier post, Miss Sallie W. Stockard states in her 1902 > book on the HISTORY OF GUILFORD COUNTY that Frieden's Church was first known > as Stahamakers Church. Mis Stockard gives no reference to the source of > this information. > > Apparently Stahakers preceded the use of Shoemakers, this according to Miss > Lalah G. Apple, a former Friedens member and historian, who wrote the > information in TWO HUNDRED TWENTY-FIVE YEARS HISTORY OF FREIDENS LUTHERAN > CHURCH 1745-1970, celebrating the 225 Anniversary of Friedens in 1970 (see > last paragraph, bottom of page 7): > > "The Quakers organized at Center in 1753; New Garden 1754; Deep River 1758, > and Snow Camp and Cane Creek even sooner. The Reformed people came along > with the Lutherans, and in many cases joined them in union houses of worship > as at Beaver Creek from which sprang both Lows Lutheran and Brick Reformed > churches. In these earlier days the church houses were generally built by > the united effgrts of both the Lutherans and the Reformed people. Such was > the case with what we now know as Friedens Church. It was a union church and > was organized about the same time as Brick Church, which is located six > mile:, south of Gibsonville, and it is not improbable that both churches > were organized by the same minister. It was first known as "Stahakers > Church," or "Sshaakers Church" and older people will recall that it was > often called as if spelled "Shoemakers Church"; this coming as the modern > pronunciation. " > > To read more about the early history of Friedens go here: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bruckner/earlysettlers.htm > > Also, note that the 1800-1853 Kootz Translation mentions SHOEMAKER's Church > four times -- in these time frames: 1836 (page 115); 1843 (page 119), 1849 > (page 120) and 1851 (page 129), so it would appear that Friedens was > commonly called Shoemakers during this period; however, the name FRIEDENS, > written in German, appears much earlier...1804, page 125. > > Does anyone know HOW the Stahmaker name originated? > > Peggy > > > > > ==== NC-FRIEDENSCHURCH Mailing List ==== > Visit the Friedens Church Family History and Genealogy Research Page: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bruckner/friedens.htm > > ============================== > Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: > Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at > http://resources.rootsweb.com/ >

HUMPHREY SCROGGIN was a soldier from the Carolinas. No official record has been obtained, but a grandson makes affidavit that Humphrey Scroggin was in the battles of Cowpens and Guilford Court House, and fought to the close of the war. The importance of having official records was not considered among many of the early families. It is hoped that further research may establish his claim officially. He is buried near Mt. Pulaski, Logan County. Found at: http://www.iltrails.org/rw4.htm

Posted on: Guilford Co. NC Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Guilford/1584 Surname: Linthacum, Poe, Wilson, Rayle, Browne, Holder, Jessop, Jessup, Stanley, Peace, Small, Knight, Holme, Hutchins, Hollowell ------------------------- Hi, William David Poe married Abigail Wilson in Guilford County, NC 1/5/1821. I am descended from their daughter, Phebe Emily Poe. There is a website for the Wilson family if you'll email me, I'll send it to you. Elizabeth Linthacum's parents were Richard Linthacum and Mary Sherwood, both of MD. The LDS website can help you too. If you need more information, please email me. Joyce

Posted on: Guilford Co. NC Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Guilford/1583 Surname: RAYLE, BROWN, POE, STANLEY, JESSOP, JESSUP, DEAN, HOLDER, HUTCHINS, HOLLOWELL, KNIGHT, PEACE, SMALL ------------------------- I too am researching William Rayle in Guilford County NC. Going backward from my gg grandmother Anna Rayl, her father Thomas, his father George, his father William who married in Chester, PA. Do you have any more information? I'm stuck with William at the moment. Thanks in advance for any info. Joyce

I would like to know the parents of Elizabeth (WIRICK) WYRICK who married Andrew GERRINGER, Jr (1785-1851), s/o Andrew, Sr (1755-1828) and Agnes MAY (1757-1858). Diana ddavis@logicsouth.com My Genealogy site updated 8/4/2000: http://www.my-ged.com/davis/

Speaking of Conrad, an item worth noting-- According to the supplement by Fred Hughes, Conrad Shoemaker had a school on the second floor of his home until he was killed in 1781 then Jacob BOON took over the job. ----- Original Message ----- From: "RellieRooter" <someone@ecis.com> To: <NC-FRIEDENSCHURCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 1:44 AM Subject: [NC-FRIEDENSCHURCH] RE Shoemaker's Church > Hi All, > > Perhaps I can add a bit of background info as to how I understand the name > "Shoemaker's Church" came to be used synonymously with Friedens Church. > > Conrad Schumacher/Shoemaker came to Orange County with his wife Susannah > (nee Jungmann) and several children from Berks Co. PA in about 1768.Fred > Hughes' map (discussed here a few days ago) shows that Conrad settled on > land across the road from the site of the present Friedens Church. Hughes > suggests that Shoemaker donated the land (or at least the use of it) to the > church. Hughes states that Conrad was one of a very few people who did not > own land in this area. Yet, Conrad and Susannah had owned land in Berks > Co., which they sold before moving southward. Hughes also states that Jacob > Schumacher was a chain carrier on surveying teams in the area. > > Also, Conrad signed one of the Regulator petitions.You may recall that one > of the drivers of the Regulator movement was the fact that colonial NC > authorities required payment of taxes in hard currency, rather than in > produce. But currency was scarce in central and western NC. As a result, > many settlers apparently lost their land because they were unable to obtain > sufficient hard money. The land was confiscated and sold, often to those > who were well connected with the colonial government. I suspect, but have > been unable to prove, that Conrad Shoemaker may have lost his land in this > way. > > Interestingly, in 1787, the new state of North Carolina granted land a > short distance away from the original Shoemaker land and the site of > Friedens to Conrad's widow, Susannah. She resided there until her death in > 1813. > > I have no information about the name Stahmaker. So far, I haven't seen any > suggestion that anyone by that name was associated with Friedens Church. > Nor can I find anything close in my German dictionary. Until somebody comes > up with a better explanation, I would side with those who believe it was a > misinterpretation of Schumacher or Shoemaker. > > Dave Shoemaker > > > > >X-Message: #1 > >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 06:51:18 -0400 > >From: "Peggy or Tom Bruckner" <bruckner@mindspring.com> > >To: NC-FRIEDENSCHURCH-L@rootsweb.com > >Message-ID: <002f01c011a7$10ac1ea0$01fea8c0@prb> > >Subject: [NC-FRIEDENSCHURCH] Stahakers Church, or Sshaakers Church -- > >often called as if spelled Shoemakers Church, the modern pronunciation > >Content-Type: text/plain > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >As mentioned in an earlier post, Miss Sallie W. Stockard states in her 1902 > >book on the HISTORY OF GUILFORD COUNTY that Frieden's Church was first known > >as Stahamakers Church. Mis Stockard gives no reference to the source of > >this information. > > > >Apparently Stahakers preceded the use of Shoemakers, this according to Miss > >Lalah G. Apple, a former Friedens member and historian, who wrote the > >information in TWO HUNDRED TWENTY-FIVE YEARS HISTORY OF FREIDENS LUTHERAN > >CHURCH 1745-1970, celebrating the 225 Anniversary of Friedens in 1970 (see > >last paragraph, bottom of page 7): > > > >"The Quakers organized at Center in 1753; New Garden 1754; Deep River 1758, > >and Snow Camp and Cane Creek even sooner. The Reformed people came along > >with the Lutherans, and in many cases joined them in union houses of worship > >as at Beaver Creek from which sprang both Lows Lutheran and Brick Reformed > >churches. In these earlier days the church houses were generally built by > >the united effgrts of both the Lutherans and the Reformed people. Such was > >the case with what we now know as Friedens Church. It was a union church and > >was organized about the same time as Brick Church, which is located six > >mile:, south of Gibsonville, and it is not improbable that both churches > >were organized by the same minister. It was first known as "Stahakers > >Church," or "Sshaakers Church" and older people will recall that it was > >often called as if spelled "Shoemakers Church"; this coming as the modern > >pronunciation. " > > > >To read more about the early history of Friedens go here: > > > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bruckner/earlysettlers.htm > > > >Also, note that the 1800-1853 Kootz Translation mentions SHOEMAKER's Church > >four times -- in these time frames: 1836 (page 115); 1843 (page 119), 1849 > >(page 120) and 1851 (page 129), so it would appear that Friedens was > >commonly called Shoemakers during this period; however, the name FRIEDENS, > >written in German, appears much earlier...1804, page 125. > > > >Does anyone know HOW the Stahmaker name originated? > > > >Peggy > > > >______________________________ > >------------------------------ > >X-Message: #2 > >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:01:35 EDT > >From: Kemjan@aol.com > >To: NC-FRIEDENSCHURCH-L@rootsweb.com > >Message-ID: <6d.8af0a07.26dd0e2f@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: [NC-FRIEDENSCHURCH] Stahakers Church, or Sshaakers Church -- > >often calle... > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >In a message dated 8/29/00 7:03:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > >bruckner@mindspring.com writes: > > > ><< Does anyone know HOW the Stahmaker name originated? >> > > > >The following came from William Thorton Whitsett papers. It may answer a part > >of your question or add more information as to names for Friedens Lutheran > >Church. > > > >' ....it was not until 1797 that a land grant was obtained from the state of > >North Carolina for 14 acres of land for church purposes. This grant is still > >in existence, dated Dec 18,1797 and signed by Samuel Ashe, Governor of the > >state, and numbered 1892, warrant of survey being 2673 and witnessed by JACOB > >CHRISTMAN and PETER SUMMERS. It is stated therein that it begins near Travis > >Creek, at BOSTON GERRINGER's corner and mentions running to a stone by the > >graveyard, thus showing that the graveyard was already in use before that > >date (1797). The grant of land was made to the CALVIN LUTHERAN CONGREGATION. > >On Dec 29,1834 an additional three acres was bought for $18 from DANIEL > >GERRINGER, the deed being witnessed by JACOB BOON and WILLIAM GREESON, and it > >is stated that this begins on Travis Creek, beginning at the hickory stump on > >the CALVIN LUTHERAN CONGREGATION line near the graveyard on the south. The > >deed is made to the CALVIN LUTHERAN CONGREGATION and is recorded in Book G, > >No. 2, pp. 419-20. This establishes the fact that the earliest legal name for > >this congregation was the CALVIN LUTHERAN CONGREGATION................ > > > >In the plot of survey which is attached to the original state warrant of > >1797, in giving the boundaries this statement occurs: " Thence , north forty > >five degrees, west , seven poles to a hickory in SHOEMAKER's line." This > >reference to SHOEMAKER's line gives us a key as to the reason the church was > >sometimes mentioned by older people as SHOEMAKER's.' > > > >All of the above is from the Whitsett papers. I have not had a chance to > >check out these deeds in the Guilford County Register of Deeds office. > > > >Ianthia Gerringer LaMarr > > > >______________________________ > >------------------------------ > > >X-Message: #4 > >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:07:33 -0500 > >From: cobbjd@swbell.net > >To: NC-FRIEDENSCHURCH-L@rootsweb.com > >Message-id: <39ABEDD5.1A6FE707@swbell.net> > >Subject: Re: [NC-FRIEDENSCHURCH] Stahakers Church, > > or Sshaakers Church -- often calle... > >Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > > >There is an article with pictures and history of Friedens Church that was > >published on the 250th Anniversary. It is in the Greensboro News and Record, > >June 2, 1995. It states: > >"The name came from a man named Shoemaker who owned the land used by the > >church. > >cobbjd@swbell.net > > >X-Message: #6 > >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:07:44 -0400 > >From: "Peggy or Tom Bruckner" <bruckner@mindspring.com> > >To: NC-FRIEDENSCHURCH-L@rootsweb.com > >Message-ID: <000601c011ec$6a892220$01fea8c0@prb> > >Subject: Re: [NC-FRIEDENSCHURCH] Stahakers Church, or Sshaakers Church -- > >often calle... > >Content-Type: text/plain > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >Thanks! > > > >So it would appear that Stahakers/Stahmakers/Sshaakers were ALL really just > >spelling variations of > >SCHUMACHER / SCHUHMACHER (or other variations found in Friedens 1800-1853 > >records) which was later anglicized to SHOEMAKER... > > > >Another Friedens' mystery solved! > > > >Peggy > > > > > > ==== NC-FRIEDENSCHURCH Mailing List ==== > Visit the Friedens Church Family History and Genealogy Research Page: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bruckner/friedens.htm > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

PACE ORPHAN APPRENTICE BONDS - GUILFORD CO., NC - WITH MASTER ABNER - age 16. On 8/23/1837 to Hiatt & Jean (saddle trade) ABSALOM - age 19 on 8/17/1840. On 8/17/1840 to William Jean (harness trade) EDY - female - age 13 on 6/21/1841. On 8/18/1841 to David C. Sullivan (weaver?) GEO. WASHINGTON (called "JOHNSON/JOHNSTON" - no age. On 5/16/53 to Wyatt Erwin LIVELY - female - age 8 on 4/19/1839. On 8/22/1839 to James Thom NEEDHAM - about 8. On 8/22/1839 to James Thom (farmer) WISEMAN - age 12 - On 11/23/1837 to Christopher Hiatt (saddle trade) YOUNG - male - age 13 - On 8/18/1847 to Jonathan Armfield YOUNG - MALE - age 16 on 8/16/1850 - On 5/20/1850 to Isaac Armfield (cabinet maker) (I would bet that Jonathan Armfield died and Isaac took over the apprentice bond for YOUNG PACE) I also have the special conditions of the indenture and the witness if anyone needs that information. In all of these, the agent of the court was John A. Mebane. I am told that to be called an orphan, only the father need be dead/deserted/missing; the mother might still be in the county but unable to support. My ABNER PACE m. in Guilford Co. in 1843, and went to Rowan Co., NC following his marriage to JULIA ANN REED. NEEDHAM PACE and YOUNG PACE moved to Mecklenburg Co., NC around 1855 where they married; they took with them a ZILPHA PACE (b.1800 Chatham Co., NC), possibly their mother, and her retarded son DAVID. LIVELY PACE married William N. LITHCOE in 1850 in Guilford Co., NC, and EDNEY PACE married Thomas OZMENT Jr. in 1841, and EDITH PACE married Thomas H. GARDNER in Guilford in 1849. Betty Pace ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

George go to: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/MS/ Click on the county in Mississippi that you need to research in. Then pick rather you want to be on the digest or individual mailings. Click on the one you want, enter the word Subscribe where it tells you to and hit send. Example: Say you picked Marshall Co., MS, click on the underlined Subscribe to MSMARSHA-L And hit enter, it came up with the word subscribe already entered into the subject line and the body of the email. Don't put in anything else, these are all done by computer and it will only reject it if there is anything else entered. Good luck, hope you find what you need. Kay Hustad >Hi, my name is George and I'm new to this site. >Would anyone know of a Mississippi site, simular to this one, that I >could check into? >ggegg@juno.com

Posted on: Guilford Co. NC Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Guilford/1582 Surname: ricks, Adams, Blizzard, Raper, Lewis, Shipton, Russum, Russam, Walker, suggs ------------------------- looking for decendents of Archibald wood. wishing to corrospond. come to America about 1780. Had two sons, willaim of Halifax, virgina, and john of Guilford Couty North Carolina about 1815. PLease send only information related to this message.

Posted on: Guilford Co. NC Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Guilford/1581 Surname: McADOO, WHEATLEY ------------------------- I am descended from the Reverand Samuel McAdoo,dow, and Heneretta Wheatley. The Rev Sam, started the Cumberland Presbyterian Church, in TN.

Posted on: Guilford Co. NC Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Guilford/1580 Surname: CHRISMAN ------------------------- I am seeking information on a David CHRISMAN, b. 1765/1780, Guilford, N.C. He was married to Catherine APPLE possibly also from Guilford County. Any information on these people, their ancestors or children will be greatly appreciated.

Posted on: Guilford Co. NC Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/NC/Guilford/1579 Surname: Phillips ------------------------- Looking for relatives of Joel Madison Phillips, born January 11, 1819; married Rebecca Jane Turner [born December 12, 1828] about 1850/1851. Have reason to believe he had relatives living in Guilford County about that time. Their children are: Martha Graham, Jesse Calvin, Osborne Hughes, Mary Emily, George Luther, Nancy Caroline, Elizabeth Alice, Minnie Elizabeth, William Pepper, Charles Henry and James Levi. Also would appreciate any information on Jesse Calvin and James Levi.

Posted on: Guilford Co. NC Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Guilford/1578 Surname: Starnes ------------------------- This is also my family of Stearns/Starnes in Guilford Co. Have done some research and have a book. Contact me at my e-mail address, if I can try to answer some questions.

Posted on: Guilford Co. NC Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Guilford/1577 Surname: ------------------------- hi, and all i can tell you is that shubal stearns was a minister in sandy ridge, nc in the mid 1700's and had converts that moved to sc and started the high hills of santee church. shubal is connected to my 7th ggfather but icant get alot of info in either one brent gerald

I am looking for the parents of the following five children. Peter Martin Wyrick, Annie Ila Wyrick, Rosa L Wyrick, Minnie Wyrick Chrisman, and Myrtle Wyrick Brown. Annie I Wyrick was affiliated with Apple Chapel. Any help would be appreciated.

Hi, my name is George and I'm new to this site. Would anyone know of a Mississippi site, simular to this one, that I could check into? ggegg@juno.com

Posted on: Guilford Co. NC Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Guilford/1576 Surname: Van Horn, Goode, Bentley, Ramey, Marks, Paschal, Sponaugle ------------------------- Responding to your Potter inquiry for Guilford County... you might want to check out the www.potterflats.com website for all Potter related inquiries. :)

Posted on: Guilford Co. NC Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Guilford/1575 Surname: ------------------------- I am looking for information regarding George E. Potter who I think resided in Greensboro, Guilford, North Carolina. He was born December 1844 in Indiana. His wife Mabel (first wife?) is buried in Lacon, Illinois. She died in 1933. I think he then moved to Greensboro. He is my husband's uncle and I have no other information. If anyone has any information regarding George E. Potter, I would appreciate it if you would contact me. Thanks.

Posted on: Guilford Co. NC Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NC/Guilford/1574 Surname: Trollinger, Drollinger, Tickle, Tickel ------------------------- There are Drollinger/Trollinger and Tickle/Tickel families at the page below. Link: Friedens Family History and Genealogy Research Page URL: <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bruckner/friedens.htm>