>Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 09:10:09 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Tue Feb 19 09:10:09 2002 >Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:10:54 -0600 >From: "Jack D. Elliott, Jr." <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; U) >Old-To: Rose Parks <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, > "Greg W. Lasley" <[email protected]>, Mary Makima <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [NCLENOIR] Westbrooks >To: [email protected] >Resent-From: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/1366 >X-Loop: [email protected] >Resent-Sender: [email protected] > >See my comments interspersed below. > >Jack > > >Rose Parks wrote: >> >> A Rob Westbrook gave me some data a few years back and he had another name added to the list as Jack d. Elliott, Jr. gave: William born 7 December 1778. > > >Yes, I saw the name William but did not include it in the list of births >because of an ambiguity. > >The typescript of this Westbrook (Charles Westbrook) Bible record, which >was the only copy that I had access to at the time indicated that >William had DIED on that day rather than had been born then. The exact >entry from the typescript reads: > >"Wm. Westbrook-Deceased the 7th Decbr. 1778" > >So it certainly looks like he had died then. However, I was suspicious >that date of death would appear right in sequence in a line of what was >otherwise births. I suspected that their might have been a >typographical error. > >A couple weeks ago I found a photostatic copy of the original Bible >record and I appeared to be wrong. It did have the word deceased, >albeit misspelled as something like "Dceast." So I figure that the >listing of a death among births was simply one of those little >inconsistencies that one runs into. > >However, upon just reexamining the photostatic copy something occurred >to me which might explain the situation, suggesting that this entry is >indeed for a BIRTH date. > >What occurred to me is that "Dceast" instead of being a verb indicating >that William had died on Dec. 7, 1778, instead was used to modify >"William", indicating that he was deceased when his birth entry was >made. After all these 18th century birth dates were all entered decades >later, as indicated by the fact that the Bible was published in 1816. > >Consequently, I now think, given a more nuanced reading of the text, >that this William Westbrook was indeed born on Dec. 7, 1778. > > >> >> Also Martha gave me a deed which gives Persis surname as Young, copied below. > > >If these were indeed the same Moses and Persis who were the parents of >Charles Westbrook et al. then this would contradict my suggestion that >Moses was perhaps married to a Persis Simons/Simmons, a suggestion that >was based in part upon Nell Coleman Ropp's article on the Charles >Westbrook family which stated that Charles's father was Moses and his >mother was an unnamed daughter of "a Revolutionary soldier, Abraham >Bassett (or Bussett) Simons of Jones County, N.C." Mrs. Ropp includes a >long list of sources with her article, but specific items within her >text are not documented. Consequently, I have no way of knowing how >solid her assertion is and how it stands up in regard to the >possibility that Moses was married to a Persis YOUNG. Of course, >another possibility is that these were two different Moseses, which is >not out of the realm of reason given the liberal usage of the name >within the Westbrook family. > >I am looking for information on Gray Westbrook, brother to Burwell and >son of John and Honour Ramsey(John's 2nd wife) > > >> >> Gray married Charlotte Wiggins about 1780??Had 5 children by the 1810 census. >> >> This indenture made the 22 day of November in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and ninety one between Moses Westbrook of Dobbs County and State of North Carolina, Marchant, and Persis his wife formerly Persis Young, daughter of Charles Young, dec. of the one part and Benjamin Sutton of the same county... of the other part whereas Charles Young in his lifetime did make a sale of a certain tract or parcel of land containing two hundred acres more of less on the North side of the Neuse River and lower side of Bear Creek being the land the said Charles Young bought of Harry Roberts and being part of the tract of land he sold to James Mizzill the original grant was made to Thomas Burnett for 350 acres, to William Waddle and by the said Waddle conveyed to the aforesaid John Sutton dec father of the aforesaid Benjamin Sutton and the said Charles Young having given his bond to make a deed of Conveyance for the aforesaid land before the said...and whereas the said Jo! >hn! >> Sutton having left the land in his last will and testament unto his son Benjamin and in order to comply with the said Charles Young contracted and take up his bond and as one of the heirs... the said Moses Westbrook and Persis his wife as well in consideration of the promise of thirty shilling current money...payed by the said Benjamin Sutton the aforesaid parcel... >> Both appeared to have signed their names >> >> Wit: Joshua Croom Major Croom >> Brought to Court April term 1792 on oath of Joshua Croom >> Enrolled 5th day of May 1792 by D. Caswell >> >> Rose Parks > >