Dear Mr. Wall, You have overwhelmed us with information about your Parish families, but one of your sentences was: My David PARRISH died after 11 Aug 1792 the last hard date I have located that connects to him. Suggestions: A long-time friend, and a crackerjack genealogist as well as author, says this: If you do not make up family group sheets (in pencil, preferably) for each of your families and cite your sources at the bottom or on back, then you are going to have a mish-mash of a pedigree. Of course, if you use a computer, then you can easily make changes on your family group sheets, but you may not note the discrepancy in dates that way!! One thing you have to watch for: Do the dates make sense? I got misled by a long-ago so-called genealogist of Granville Co. whose old book, published originally in the late 1930s or early 1940s, long before we had much technology, like photocopiers and microfilm to speak of, and certainly not computers, skipped a generation in my family--he telescoped the family. Had I not made up family group sheets to reflect this vast age gap, I would still be up a creek, genealogically speaking. Although there were exceptions, the longevity of our colonial folks was generally not very long--so if you have a fellow fathering babies when he is age 90 (according to some stuff on the Ancestral File for one of my ancestors), you had better start all over again. Another estimate on the part of genealogists is that fellows generally (there are always exceptions, of course) did not marry until about age 26, when they had acquired some land to support a family. Brides could be any age. First wives were generally not too much younger than the husbands, but one always finds exceptions. (I had one ancestor, of later vintage, who seemed to be attracted by rich, sometimes older, widows, who already had children, land, slaves, etc. Then he proceeded to sell off their property. He had to move from one State to another further west because of bankruptcy.) Anyway, back to your sentence about David Parrish. If you suspect this fellow was in Virginia, look around your residence for a library which may have this set of books: The 1787 Census of Virginia by Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florine S. Love. The third volume of this three-volume set is an index to the preceding volumes. These books have not been filmed. There are booklets for each county sold by WillowBend books, but if you do not know where your Parishes were, then the booklets are probably of little use to you. This so-called 1787 census is a compilation of all the Virginia County personal property tax lists for 1787. It is a good people locator for Virginia residents, which at that time included the counties in Kentucky, what is now West Virginia, and any other land claimed by Virginia, which was considerable in 1787. This compilation is to make for the lost 1790 census of Virginia. Say, I am looking for a particular surname--and its variant spellings (always check those). I photocopy the index pages in Vol. 3 for that surname and then go through the other two preceding volumes which contain those page numbers. That way, I am able (unless it is a common surname) to zero in on those Virginia or Kentucky counties in which my people lived. To my surprise, I found my Harris ancestor had personal property in both Virginia and in Kentucky. So that means I have to search both counties for that time period. Many Granville Co. folks did own land in the Virginia counties adjoining Granville Co. and also, they may have owned land in other North Carolina counties. Some early tax lists exist for North Carolina, particularly Granville co. and Orange Co. Some of these have been published in older issues of the North Carolina Genealogical Society Journal. You may have to search for those, but the Allen Co. Public Library in Fort Wayne, Indiana may be able to help you locate those. One of my Granville Co. ancestors, who died in 1759, patented land all over Southside Virginia, which he gave to his sons, and then, probably being in failing health, removed to Granville Co. shortly before his death. His several sons were deeded land in the adjoining Virginia counties, but, like many of our ancestors, they did not stay long. Some moved to central North Carolina, while others headed for South Carolina. (Always on the move.) Other genealogists make up timelines for each ancestor. This is helpful to sort out persons who have the same name--for generations!!! Some guidelines for research are on the <A HREF="www.familysearch.org">www.familysearch.org</A> I suggest you click all the links on that website and find out what may be available for you, including some forms which you can download. Look at the research outlines which are also online. Lots of luck! If you are desperate, you can access the tlcgenealogy.com website and ask for a surname search, which is rather inexpensive. They do not provide a search of EVERY film which exists, but their search may give you a head start on where (the localities) the Parish surname did exist. E.W.Wallace