May want to check out this cite: http://aolsvc.news.arrangeonline.aol.com/Obituary/ Their source is the Social Security Administration. It actually isn't obituaries, but kind of another form of the Social Security Death Index, without the SSN. You may find someone listed here that you couldn't find thru the SSDI. You never know unless you try. Good luck! Diane Pollard Keiser

In the Baltimore Sun newspaper, last week, there was an article regarding the following website (I haven't had a chance to get into it to do any searching): http://www.cem.va.gov/ (A short version of what the article said): This is a website post by the Dept of Veteran Affairs. They have put on the www. 3.2 million records for veterans buried at 120 national cemeteries since the Civil War. It is suppose to include the VA's gravesite navigator, which includes names, DOB, DOD, military service dates, service branch and rank, if known, cemetery info, and grave location in the cemetery. The VA will withhold some info, such as next of kin, for privacy reasons. They will be updating on a continuing basis. GOOD LUCK! Diane Pollard Keiser

Researching a surname like Graves, particularly in North Carolina in the early days, is fraught with danger--because there are so many of them. I have been led to believe, based on correspondence, and some preliminary personal research, that the Graves family of Granville Co., NC and that Graves family of Caswell Co., NC are not related. Perhaps they had a common ancestor in Virginia, but I think that will be difficult to prove. William Graves of Granville Co., NC - will written 24 Apr 1786 and proved in May court 1786 by oath of Henry Graves and John Wms. Graves. Mary Graves [wife?], William Graves, & Nathaniel Graves qualified as Executrix and Executors. Children named in the will: Dau Mary Hester - land, one male slave, one beast & saddle, one feather bead & Virginia the land purchased of Fagins [should probably read *in Virginia*] Dau Elizabeth Montague - land already in her possession; additional lands etc. Dau Nancy - no land; two slaves; stock; household stuff Son Henry Graves - land he now lives on, two slaves, one beast & saddle; quantity of stock and household stuff Son William Graves - part of the tract of land I now live on, on Spewmarrow, two slaves, one beast & saddle, stock & Household stuff Dau Lidy - two slaves, one beast & saddle, quantity of stock & household stuff Son Nathaniel Graves - remainder of land I now live on, two slaves, one best & saddle, quantity of stock & household stuff Dau Anna two slaves, [same items as others are to receive] Dau Martha - two slaves, etc. Beloved wife Mary Graves - the land I hold in Virginia, stock, household furniture & everything that I have not given away Four youngest children to have 40 pounds each to make equal with my other daus. If any Negroes be judgd to be 60 years of age, they shall be free & a maintenance allowed them out of my Estate My beloved wife & son & my son William Graves & my son Nathaniel Graves executors [Extracted from Timothy W. Rackley, GRANVILLE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA ORIGINAL WILLS VOL I [Kernersville, NC: Published by author, 2002], p. 38-39) Comment: I suspect but cannot prove at this point that another testator, John Williams Graves of Granville Co., who wrote his will 1 Dec 1788 (proved Feb Court [1789? dt not given by author] may be a brother of William Graves. He names only two sons: John and Ralph. His wife Mary Graves Executrix; *my brother* Henry Graves, Executor. (Rackley, p. 38) Later Henry Graves of Granville Co. wrote his will 12 July 1797. Wife Rachel Graves; dau. Betsey Graves; dau Mary Yancey. sons Ralph Graves, David Graves. Rachel Graves to be executrix; Lewis Yance and Ralph Graves and David Graves, executors. Proved Aug court 1797 (Rackley, p. 37) My comment to you: Vast databases, such as those on the internet, or on CD-ROM, mostly should be used as guides only and not reliable proof. Long ago, in William & Mary Quarterly, some of which is on a CD-ROM, a Mrs. Hiden wrote about a Graves family, but my memory was it was not the one which seems to be linked to those in Caswell Co., NC. Depending on the time period when your Graves family was alive, you might well search the counties just across the Virginia boundary to find associates of your Graves families. Those in Caswell Co. have rather distinctive first names, as I remember, unlike the Henry and Ralphs you find in families whose grandfather probably lived (and probably died) in colonial Hanover Co., VA. Margaret M. Hofmann's books on land grants in the Granville District might help you in that the chain carriers were frequently close associates of the grantee. In a couple of cases I have found that their family members or close associates seem to have come over from Virginia to carry the chain!!! And then returned to Virginia!!! Even as far away as Northern Neck Virginia. E.W.Wallace

As students of the history of Henderson Co., KY know, many of its early residents were of North Carolina, especially Granville Co., NC and Caswell Co., NC. I learned a great deal about Henderson Co. and its history from Edmund Lyne Starling's hefty (800 pages) History of Henderson Co., and in it, he explains the linkage of Henderson Co. with North Carolina -- shall I call them speculators? Henderson and its county, of course, are named in honor of Col. Richard Henderson of Granville Co., NC. Researchers who live near an LDS family history center may be pleased to know that the Family History Library in Salt Lake City has filmed Starling's book, and below is some information I cut and pasted from the online catalog at www.familysearch.org I clicked on the link to the catalog (I prefer the one at the lower left of the webpage), did an Author search for Starling [four entries appeared, but I chose this one] Here is the film number. If near an FHC, you can order this film from Salt Lake City, for a small fee, for a short time, but generally you can renew for another few weeks. I found some gross errors in some of the biographies, but Starling no doubt relied on written or oral interviews, and the interviewees seem to have had faulty memories--or never learned the right story in the beginning (same as with our modern-day families). Don't believe everything you hear or read (or see, on television). Nonetheless, the history is of great interest, and may help family history researchers understand the origins and motivations of some of their ancestors. Title History of Henderson County, Kentucky : comprising history of county and city ... and biographies of the living and dead ... Authors Starling, Edmund Lyne (Main Author) Note Location Film History of Henderson County, Kentucky FHL US/CAN Film 982330 Item 2 I picked up this morning a lost book on Caswell Co., NC (it got hidden when we painted the interior of the house last summer) and found this entry concerning Henderson Co. KY, which may help some researchers. Citation given below. [Caswell Co., NC] April Court 1812 Will Bk F-266 Power of attorney: Craven Boswell of Henderson Co., KY who has power of attorney of Wynn Dixon and Joseph Cowen exec of will of Elizabeth Hart decd. to Johnb Windsor Sen of Caswell Co. to collect all monies due and money due exec from Malahn Stacy of Caswell. 26 Mar 1812 (Katherine Kerr Kendall, CASWELL COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA WILL BOOKS 1777-1814 [Baltimore: Clearfield Publishing Co., reprinted in two volumes, 1997], p. 125) By the way, I believe at least one of Mrs. Kendall's books has been filmed by FHLibrary, but I do not recall which book it is. Try the website given above and do an author search for Kendall. E.W.Wallace

Does anyone know where Chico Road is/was located. The name appears in an early 1800's deed. Thanks! Caroline McCall

AM LOOKING FOR MORE INFO ON THESES FAMILIES. THEY WERE THERE IN THE MIDDLE 1700'S BEFORE THEY MOVED TO GEORGIA. GLADYS MASON DIECKMANN

There is some new DNA technology available for genealogical research. I recently had my DNA tested and the results show that I am not related to the Col.Henry- Capt.Henry- William Duke-Samuel Duke family from NC that spread throughout the South. This is in conflict with the book I wrote on my family history, and takes me back to square one, where I was at 3 years ago regarding my family history. This technology is available for any member of any family that wants to be tested. However, it is only good for genealogical research in the male DNA which remains constant over time. Thus far, over 20,000 people have been tested worldwide. We have had 12 male Dukes tested in the past 3 months, however, none of them were certain to be from the William Duke (1701-1773) line from Warren Co.NC. We need a male Duke volunteer from this family, with definite lineage back to this ancestor. It only takes one, and it does not involve blood or needles, only a swab of the inside of your mouth. I would like to verify the DNA of this family from the William Duke line of the family. Eventually, we may even be able to verify lineage back to Capt. Henry Duke and Col. Henry. This is not a solicitation, and neither I nor any member of my family will benefit financially from this testing. It is purely for genealogical research. The cost of the test is $100. For more info go to: http://www.familytreedna.com/ or the Duke family genforum at http://genforum.genealogy.com/duke/ Kevin Dukes ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

These are excerpts from Thomas E. Partlow, WILSON COUNTY, TENNESSEE DEED BOOKS C-M, 1793-1829 [Easley SC: Southern Historical Press, 1984], p. 1 (If you use this information in your own work, please cite the above source--required all of good genealogists. If someone cannot replicate your work, then your work is of little use to anyone else.) Thomas Harris of Mecklenburg County, North Carolina to David Wilson of Sumner County, Tennessee 1000 acres on Round Lick Creek. Witnesses: Thomas McGuire and Jacob Null (p. 3 [presumably of DB C]) James Grier, attorney for Samuel Lawrence, to Elias Lawrence of Robertson County for natural live and affection 960 acres on Cedar Creek. Witnesses: Thomas Harris and Samuel Hogg. 22 June 1807 (Pp. 13-14) Elias Lawrence of Robertston County, Tennessee to Matthew Figures 960 acres on Cedar Creek. Witnesses: John Bradley and Thomas Harris. 22 June 1807 (P. 15) Comment: Anyone having knowledge of Samuel Hogg, believed to be the Samuel Hogg formerly of Granville Co., NC, is asked to contact me privately. There was a younger Samuel Hogg who was a physician in Tennesee, but it is the older Samuel Hogg and his wife for whom I seek information. Here is some information about a marriage (probably a second one for Samuel Hogg) which took place in Granville Co., NC. His wife is reportedly [not confirmed] buried in Lebanon, TN: Granville Co. marriage record: Saml. Hogge & Sarah Williams, 14 May 1792; W. Norwood, bm; Saml Worthington, wit. (Elizabeth Hicks Hummell in HICKS HISTORY OF GRANVILLE CO., NC, V. I, MARRIAGE BONDS, 1965, [Oxford, NC: Coble Publishing Co., 16] p. 205.) If you subscribe to other Tennessee or North Carolina lists, please post this info on that list or those lists, but cite the sources. Thanks. E.W.Wallace

Please note that in the next few weeks my email address is permanently changing from nats@efn.org to lindagshields@hotmail.com. Many of you have sent/received emails to/from me regarding genealogy research. Apologies to anyone receiving this email who, well, could care less :-). Assuming you do care, please update your address book and/or email blocking settings. Going forward you will only receive email from me from lindagshields@hotmail.com. I will be checking received email in nats@efn.org for a few more weeks and then permanently shutting down that account thereafter. Thanks, Linda lindagshields@hotmail.com

A fellow list member requested that I publish the findings from our line of Ingram bible. This copy of this �Miller/Ingram� bible is located in the �New Albany-Floyd County Public Library� located in New Albany, Indiana. It was submitted by: James R. Ingram, 2414 Jacobs Drive, New Albany, Indiana 47150. (My note: I have written twice to this person at this address. The letter was never returned nor did I receive a reply.) Along with a copy of this bible were notes that were copied from a �Webster�s Encyclopedia of Useful Information and World Atlas� and a book titled �Appletons� School Reader� This bible, encyclopedia and school reader were in the possession of Dr. George H. Ingram who lived in Effingham, Illinois Jackson Twp. at the time of his death. In our line of Ingram we have a granddaughter of Dr. George who wanted to belong to the DAR. It was only through her searching that we have been able to trace our line back to Dr. George�s grandpa, Andrew Ingram, who was in the Rev. War. Pension #S323338. This granddaughter�s name was Bertha. She married a Otto Amacher and lived in Marshall, Illinois. (My note: Bertha�s trouble was proving Dr. George�s father , James, was son of Andrew.) Bertha found a marble slab from an antique chest of drawers or dresser on the former home place of Dr. George. She took it home and after cleaning it found this carved on the back of the marble slab. J. I. B: 1787 Tenn. Died 1850 KY. (One proof that James was Dr. George�s father) Susannah D: 1846 (One of Dr. George�s wives) Mary A. D: 1856 (One of Dr. George�s wives) Dancy J. D: 1873 (Was this a typo in translating? Nancy perhaps?) Amos D: 1865 (One of Dr. George�s boys) Eli D: 1858 (One of Dr. George�s boys) If I am understanding the DAR requirements, Bertha needed another �proof�. She did not know where Dr. George�s bible was located until after her father passed away and then her brother. Her brother�s possessions were put in a box in Bertha�s attic and not discovered for many years. The DAR accepted this bible finding as enough proof for Bertha to join the DAR. First page of information out of George H. Ingram�s bible: BIRTHS James L. Ingram, was borned August 8th A.D. 1787 George H. Ingram, was born May 10th A.D. 1817 Susannah Ingram, was born July 14th A.D. 1821 Mary Ann Ingram, was born February 22nd A.D. 1831 Nancy Jane Ingram, was borned August 3, 1838 William F. Ingram was born April 21st A.D. 1840 Eli W. Ingram was borned August 12th A.D. 1842 Milburn Ingram was born February 11th A.D. 1848 Robert P. Ingram was born April 25th A.D. 1850 Susannah Ingram December 11th A.D. 1852 Amos Ingram was born February 29th A.D. 1856 Hariett Ingram was born February 7th A.D. 1858 Crockett Ingram was born September 27th A.D. 1860 Hallick Ingram was born September 8th A.D. 1862 (Bertha�s Father) James Ingram was born March 17th A.D. 1864(My husband�s grandfather) Caroline Ingram was born November 29th A.D. 1867 Alis and Allen Ingram was born May 5th A.D. 1870 Lilley Ingram was born July 8th A.D. 1872 MARRIAGES George H. Ingram was married to Susannah Thornton July 18th A.D. 1839 George H. Ingram was married to Mary Ann Dresbach December 27th A.D. 1846 G. H. Ingram was married to Nancy Jane Robinson November 28th A.D. 1856 DEATHS Susannah Ingram died: September 23rd A.D. 1846 Mary Ann Ingram died July 26th A.D. 1856 Eli W. Ingram died: January 28th A.D. 1858 Amos Ingram died: September 24th A.D. 1865 Nancy Jane Ingram died: June 11th A.D. 1873 George H. Ingram died: January 26th A.D. 1894 R. P. Ingram died: March 23rd A.D. 1916 On the front flyleaf - outside Present to William Miller by Mrs. E. Hasting sister Mrs. James Ingram. (My note: This would be Mary Lee�s sister - E - who married a Hasting) JAMES INGRAM MARY LEE Mar. 1807 Hawkins Co., Tenn. Pleasant b: 1808 Hawkins Co. Wm (Tip) 1810 Hawkins Co. Elizabeth 1812 Hawkins Co. Mary Lee 1815 KY George H. 1817 KY (My note: To me the above children listed are the children of James and Mary Ingram. Since I don�t have the original bible - I don�t know if Dr. George wrote these names or was it entered by another?) Miller Ingram son Thom. Hawkins Co., Tn. Cousin of James (My note: Is Miller son of Thomas? Or did Miller have a son named Thomas? In Hawkins Co. Tn. I found a James Ingram who married a Nancy Miller - they had a son named Miller Ingram who was mentioned in Peter Miller�s will (Nancy�s father). Did Nancy die and James gave Miller to a Thomas Ingram to raise? Was this note by someone other than Dr. George - so they were guessing about the cousin part? Or did a Thomas Ingram really marry a Miller girl and have a son named Miller?) (also along side of page) Robert Ingram born January 13, 1891. (My note: This Robert was Bertha� brother) Front cover - inside Will Miller Cave in Rock Guir (Guie) Lanebe??) Ray Marion Thomas (or Thom??) Walter Thomas Johnie Sharer (or Starer??) Ed Keeling Fred Deeling (My note: additional note beside this notation says that it was impossible to read as written on slick black paper on inside of cover.) Back cover - inside Will Miller Cave in Rock Back flyleaf - outside: Prezent to Will Miller from Mrs. E. Hastings Back flyleaf - inside: Hallack Ingram m: 1887 Charlotte Bracken George Ingram m: 1856 Nancy J. Robinson Back side of leaf between the New and Old Testament: James F. Miller was bornd Nov. 16th 1863 Marry E. Miller was bornd Dec. 20th 1865 William D. Miller was bornd Mar. 4th 1873 Marry E. Miller died Aug. 5th 1867 James F. Miller died Mar. 20th 1880 In different handwriting - Harry Barcom (Or Barcorn??) was born Feb. 14, 1875. (My note: Have not identified why this person would be noted in the bible.) Loose slip of paper in Bible: Bob Ingram Mason, Il Ethel Smith Hallick Ingram IL Charlotte Bracken IN James Ingram Hawkins Co., TN Mary Lee Back Flyleaf of bible: Millburn 1760 W. F. Ingram 1733 Andrew Ingram 1758 End Ingram bible records (My note: Since W. F. Ingram is the oldest person in the bible, it appeared to me that he was the father to Millburn and Andrew) Notes found in the �Webster�s Encyclopedia of Useful Information and World Atlas� Translator�s note: On inside of the front cover of the above book - in possession of Bertha Amacher (Mrs. Otto) was found the following record. Presented George Ingram by James Ingram and Lottie (My note: Charlotte�s nickname was Lottie. Charlotte was James Ingram�s sister-in-law) Feb. 1866 R. H. and Ethel Ark. Hallock Lottie 1887 George Nancy J. 1856 James Mary Lee Hawkins Co., KY (My Note: did they live in both TN and KY?) Andrew Thomas H. Co., Tenn (My note: are Andrew and Thomas brothers? Is that why they are listed together?) On the opposite leaf is the following: Mary Lee D. Jonn Lee died KY. 1817 (My note: does the D stand for daughter? If stands for died - just who died? Mary or Jonn?) Notes from �Appleton�s� School Reader� Translator notes: This record is the only time we have found a probable wife nee Nancy Smith, for Andrew Ingram, Revolutionary soldier. The balance of the records correspond to other records we have. On the back flyleaf was the following: ANDREW INGRAM JAMES AND MARY LEE NANCY SMITH GEORGE & SUSANNAH MARY ANN NANCY JANE On the inside of the back cover was the following: Jackson Twp. Ill. 1889 Great grandfather WILLIAM (So the W. F. Ingram is actually a William!) Montgomery Co., NC Grandpa born there 1758 (pension records say Andrew was born in Granville Co., NC.) To Hawkins Co., TN. 1791 (I have proof Andrew purchased land in Hawkins Co., TN. In 1791) To Indiana 1820 Floyd Co.Green Twp. (I have proof Andrew purchased land in Greenville, Floyd Co. IN.) Andrew buried there James in KY (what? Died in KY? Lived in KY?) I came to Edgar 1833 Effingham Co., Il. 1839 END OF NOTES __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

I'm sure many of you have read these lists before, but this will jog your memory. Remember, this date precedes the American Revolution. This set of volumes, full of interesting letters and records pertaining to our colonial folk, are available on microfiche (however, there are 270 of them, I finally learned) from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. Each fiche costs 15 cents apiece. Some large university libraries have these sets of books. There is an index in a separate volume, if I remember correctly. Source: William L. Saunders, THE COLONIAL RECORDS OF NORTH CAROLINA, 1769 to 1771, Vol. 8 [Raleigh: 1890], p. 72 [From Orange County Court Records.] North Carolina } Hillsboro District } Ss. At a Superior Court of Justice begun and held for the district aforesaid at the Court house in Hillsboro on the 22nd day of September in the year of Our Lord, one thousand, seven hundred and sixty nine, 1769. Present The Honorable Maurice Moore Esq. Associate Justice. The Sheriff of Granville County returns his list of Jurors, viz. James Yancey, Charles Rust Eaton, Reuben Searcy, Solomon Alston, Sherrard Harris, David Mitchell, Jesse Saunders, Cuthbird Hutson, Samuel Sneed, William Potter, John Young, Robert Lanier. The Sheriff of Orange County returned the following list of Jurors, viz. John Hogan, John Payne, John Gray, Enoch Bradley, John Patterson, Nathaniel Hart, John Nunn, Washam Glenn, Charles Matthews, Tignal Jones, Nathanial Jones, Wm. Rhodes, Richard Berry, William Nunn, Jun., Ebener Starns, John McDonald, John Lowe, Gabriel Davie, William Stroude, Jun., Joseph Gold, Archibald Boling, Robert Lytle, George Foote, Samuel Parkes, Benjamin Black, Chas. Powell, John Powell, Jessie Oldham, William Pauly, Thomas Connelly, James Craig, William Lassiter, John Hunter, Joseph King, Thomas Hart & James Minnis. On motion being made by John Noe, son of Peter Noe, (Miller) that he might be naturalized & proving to the Court that he had taken the sacrament of the Lord's Supper & other requisites by Act of Parliament specified, he accordingly was naturalized by taking the oaths, and making & subscribing the declaration by Law appointed. Comment: Some of these men were involved in the Transylvania Company, later known as Henderson & Co., headed by Col. Richard Henderson of Granville Co., NC. Submitted by E. W. Wallace descendant of Samuel Sneed and of Jesse Oldham

Bud: You and I had corresponded about Jan 21, 2004 regarding the surname Frazier and I said that I would xerox some items for you and send to you. I had asked for your name and address. I haven't been able to find your e-mail note to me and now I have been sick the last couple of weeks. I would like to send you the articles I promised you. Please get in touch with me at: geno@blazenet.net I apologize for not getting in touch with you sooner. Diane Pollard Keiser

In going thru a huge backlog of email, I see that you had a rollcall and I would like to respond, in particular to the Hester family. My William Hester 1730-1793, Bertie to Granville and md Mary Whicker/Wicker were connected more than once with the Frazier through their daughter Temperance Hester. She md. Sowell Frazier 1764-1851 and she was born about 1764. The brother of Sowell also md into the Frazier family, and I believe their mother's maiden name was Sowell. Also have John Whitaker/Whitacre and daughter Pricilla Whitaker/Whitacre, and possibly McCulley, (McCully, McCullock, McCulloch, etc.) Most of these folks ended up in Jackson County, northeast corner of AL. And Tobias Wilhelm who began in PA or NC and the Samuel Hall and Joseph or John White in NC, then into eastern TN. Love to share ideas or information or any suggestions. Thanks for your time. Susan E up in "FRIGID" northern IN

Thank you for your interest in the Burton family of early Caswell Co., NC. The Burtons of colonial VA and of colonial NC are hard to figure out, at least their relationships, if any, to each other. Almost every Southside VA county I research has a Burton family, and, of course, there is the well-known Robert Burton of Granville Co., NC (ca 1747 prob VA-1831 testate in Granville Co., NC). The following from my notes, collected over the years, reflects some of my confusion or puzzlement. Robert Burton of Granville Co. is NOT my direct ancestor, but his father-in-law, Judge John Williams of Granville Co., NC [aka John Williams, Jr. in early Granville and later as John Williams, Esq.] is of interest to me as a collateral. His brother, William Williams, who died around Christmas Day 1775 at Boonesborough, now KY, is my direct ancestor. Burton is much involved in the affairs of these Williams males. In fact, because Robert Burton and his wife, called Agatha Williams, were the sole heirs of John Williams, Esq., very active as an agent of his cousin Col. Richard Henderson in their Transylvania scheme [Boonesborough, et al], Burton was sued by another of my ancestors for the failure of Henderson to award him the land he was promised. The papers of this Burton from Granville Co., NC, I understand are at Duke University. I have only read notes that others made from the filmed notes at Duke U. and cannot speak with authority about them. Here are some of my notes. The more one studies the associated families, the more one understands his/her own ancestors and their motivations for certain acts. Preparer: E. W. Wallace Edited 9/99; 10/03 ROBERT BURTON. Husband of Agatha [Keeling] Williams, sole heir of John Williams, Esq. of Granville Co., NC (d. testate 1799, Granville Co., NC). This Robert Burton probably is NOT the Robert Burton of Caswell Co., NC, son of Noel Burton and of Lucy Burton of Caswell Co., NC. A Robert Burton is the administrator in Caswell Co., and a bond is posted for each of these adminsitrations: 10 Sept 1777 - Lucy Burton, widow & relict of Noel Burton; adminstrator Robert Burton; bondsmen: Wm. Moore & Thos. Harrison 5 Mar 1778 - Noel Burton; administrator Robert Burton; bondsman Wm. Moore .... [did not photocopy] (William Perry Johnson, "Caswell County Administration Bonds, 1777-1799," in THE NORTH CAROLINIAN, Vol. II, No. 3, Sep 1956, p. 197) In Johnson's compilation, there is an adminstration of Robert Burton of Caswell Co. 22 April 1788, and Mary Burton is administratrix, and Will Moore is bondsman. This eliminates the younger Robert Burton of Granville Co. as being the same person. Still later in Caswell Co., there is another administration for a Robert Burton, identity unknown. This administration was July 1790 and the administrator was Joseph Dameron with Christoper Dameron & Epephroditus Hightower as bondsmen. (Ibid.) According to John H. Wheeler in REMINISCENSES AND MEMOIRS OF NORTH CAROLINA AND EMINENT NORTH CAROLINIANS (1966 reprint, GPC, Baltimore, MD), Robert Burton of Granville Co. was born 1747 in Mecklenburg Co., VA. He died 1825 in Granville Co., where he had moved ca. 1775. He was appointed an officer in the army [militia?]. He was a member of the Continental Congress, 1787, and was one of the commissioners to run the line between North Carolina and South Carolina in 1801. Katherine B. Elliott in MECKLENBURG COUNTY VIRGINIA MARRIAGE RECORDS 1765-1810, p. 167 states that Robert Burton was son of Hutchins Burton and Tabitha (Minge) Burton. However, she may be referring to a predecessor by the same name. Mecklenburg Co., VA Deed Bk 3 ca 1772 indicates a Robert Burton resided there. He apparently was a merchant. More study is needed. By 1779, he, of course, was in Granville Co., NC. From Mecklenburg Co., VA, DB 5-470: Jul 23, 1779 from Robert Burton of Granville County, North Carolina and Noah Dortch of M[ecklenburg] to John Burton of M[Mecklenburg] for 1200 pds, about 400 acres in M[ecklenburg], and bounded by Bates. /s/ Robert Burton, Noah Dortch. Wit - Joseph Speed, James Thornton as to Dortch, Matt Speed as to Diortch, William Baskerville as to Burton, John Berry as to Burton, Tingnal [Tignal?] Jones Jr. as to Burton. Recorded Aug 9, 1779. This deed was acknowledged by Noah Dortch on Mar 13, 1780. (TLC Genealogy, MECKLENBURG COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEEDS 1777-1779 [Miami Beach, CA: 1994], p. 71) Other references in Mecklenburg Co. are to Dortches Mill Path. "Burton" is a surname found in several colonial Virginia counties along the James River. From THE DOUGLAS REGISTER, p. 98 ff, "Marriages Not Recorded by Rev. Douglas but Indicated in the Birth Registry" [Goochland Co., VA]: p. 100 Burton, Noel & Lucy Barret 9 Apl 1756 Burton, Robert & Priscilla 12 Aug 1725 Probably Robert Burton resided for a time in Caswell Co. prior to his marriage or during the early years of his marriage. His name, or that of a possible cousin, is found in early records of Caswell Co. However, it seems there may have been at least two men of the same name. [Caswell Co.] March court 1780: Robert Burton to build grist mill on Hogan's Creek. (Katharine Kerr Kendall, CASWELL COUNTY, 1777-1877, HISTORICAL ABSTRACTS OF MINUTES OF CASWELL COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, n.p., 1976) According to Wheeler, Burton [of Granville Co.] was a member from North Carolina to the Continental Congress before the adoption of the constitution, as was his father-in-law, John Williams, Esq. Burton was there from 1787 to 1788. Williams was there the following year. Wheeler adds that he was one of the commissioners to run the line between North Carolina and South Carolina in 1801, and Georgia. Robert Burton is called "Colonel" in NSDAR Genealogical Records ("grandparent papers.") His son, Frank Nash Williams Burton, was "the grandparent" on whom the DAR member submitted papers. These papers were no longer submitted after 1982. Much of the material contained in them is secondary evidence or family tradition. The wife of Robert Burton was Agatha Williams, only child of Judge John Williams and his wife Agnes (Bullock) Keeling of Granville Co. (Agnes had older children by Keeling, one of whom married Col. Richard Henderson. Agatha's birthdate, given in some accounts, precedes the date of marriage of John Williams and Agnes Keeling, leading one to believe that perhaps Williams adopted her because of her youthful age--about two years old. Agatha is named in the will of her father George Keeling, whose will is said to be in Halifax Co., NC.) A deed, Bk. B, March Court, 1793 filed in Woodford Co., KY concerning a deed of Bartlett Searcy, decd. referred to "deeds issued to Robt. Burton of Greenville Co., NC." (Mrs. William Breckenridge Ardery, comp., KENTUCKY COURT AND OTHER RECORDS, V. II, p.163-164) [Comment: More than likely this is Granville Co., NC as Bartlett Searcy had been a resident there.]

I'm looking for BRAME or WOOTTON (Wooten, var...) families in Granville Co. or the surrounding areas. (Some relatives were there in the late 1700's). Jan. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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I am somewhat interested in the Daniel Family of colonial Granville Co., NC. I am not surprised that Edmund Smith, a son-in-law, migrated to South Carolina. Many North Carolinians migrated there prior to the Revolution. Allegedly the wife of John Daniel, who died testate in Granville Co., NC was the husband of one Ann Williams. I am more interested in the Williams family than I am in the Daniel family--mostly because of lack of time! Ann is believed to be the sister of Elizabeth (Williams) Henderson, mother of Col. Richard Henderson. Two of her brothers were also of Granville Co.: John Williams, Sr. [around the Nutbush creek area] who died intestate before Jan 1770 (this was when an administrator's bond was signed by John Williams, Jr. [aka Esq., William Williams, and Leonard Henley Bullock) Daniel Williams, Sr. [died testate in Granville Co., NC in 1759--very complex will] Here are some notes I have gathered over the years on one of the Daniel males, a son of John Daniel and his wife Ann of Granville Co., NC. I note there is a reference to one Edmund Smith. I have little other information. JAMES DANIEL. He apparently is the son of John Daniel (d. 1762) and his wife Anne Williams. Refer to biography of John Daniel, whose 1762 will names a son James Daniel. James wrote his will in Oct 1785. John Daniel probably died in Granville Co. as there is a will of one James Daniel in Granville Co., WB 1-452, 1785. (Thornton Mitchell, NORTH CAROLINA WILLS: A TESTATOR'S INDEX, 1665-1900 [Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1993 second printing of 1992 corrected and revised edition], p. 123) The probate index for Granville Co. for one James Daniel, Nov ct 1785, Bk 1-452 (FHL film 18,968) lists the following devisees, relationship not generally shown: John Daniel, Williams Daniel, Reuben Daniel, Richard Daniel, Joseph Daniel, Edmund Smith, Mary Royster (dau), granddaughters: Lucy Royster, Polly Royster, Becky Royster, Ann Royster, David Royster, son-in-law. Abstract of actual will indicates that those with the surname Daniel were sons. Wife was Sarah. Edmund Smith was a son-in-law. Daughter was Ann Daniel. The following may have been one of his marriages, but it probably was not his first, judging by the number of children named in his 1785 will. He had several married daughters by 1785. However, Daniel's wife was named Sarah in the will. James Daniel to Sally Cocke, Bond dated: Nov. 30, 1772. Signed by James Daniel & Wm. Cocke. (Thomas McAdory Owen, HISTORY AND GENEALOGIES OF OLD GRANVILLE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, 1746-1800, p. 74. Is he the same James Daniel who in 1774 was administrator of the estate of Mary Morgan? (W. P. Johnson, "Granville Co. Will Book 1, 1772-1787," NORTH CAROLINA GENEALOGY, V. XI, No. 1 [Raleigh: 1970] p. 2500). He died before Nov court 1785 (WB 1-452). Devisees listed in the devisor index, Granville Co., are as follows. The will has not yet been read: John Daniel William Daniel Reuben Daniel [m. Elizabeth Harrison - Owen, p. 79] Richard Daniel Joseph Daniel Edward Smith Ann Daniel Mary Royster (dau) Lucy Royster Polly Royster Becky Royster David Royster (son in-law) Sarah Daniel (wife) An e-mail (prior to that, snail-mail) cousin gave me this information: James Daniel reportedly married Sarah (--). Reported children: John Daniel Reuben Daniel Richard Daniel Joseph Daniel Mary Daniel m. David Royster (children: Lucy, Polly, Becky) Anne Daniel unm. female m. Edmund Smith Sumitted by note-taker E.W.Wallace (female)

I believe that I have found Edmund Smith in SC. He was the son of Gulielmus Smith. He married Elizabeth Ann Daniel, January 25, 1779, Granville Co, NC. She was the daughter of James and Sarah Cooke Daniel. Is there any one out there that is researching this line. His brother, Ransom D. Smith, mentioned him in his pension papers as going to SC and I think I have found him. I will not bore everyone on the list with the details just contact me and we will share. Helen L. Smith Hoke (I chase dead people....and they are so far ahead of me, I'll never catch up. I think they're hiding under rocks.)

Since there were Brame family members in Southside Virginia and also in Granville Co., NC (according to my reading of records of those areas), I thought this info from Ballard Co. website might be of interest. This is the message which I am sending. E.W.Wallace My friends - Today we are returning to the Jackson Purchase Vignettes series. Our subject today is Samuel Brame of Ballard County [Kentucky]. ...... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Samuel Brame was born in Mecklenburg County, Va., March 13, 1820. He is the eldest of seven children born to Henry and Sally (Hooton) Brame, natives of Virginia and of English descent. The grandparents, Samuel Brame and Samuel Hooton, were natives of Virginia. The father of our subject was a soldier in the war of 1812. Samuel was reared on a farm; he received a common school education and lived with his parents till he was twenty-two years old, when he engaged in farming for himself. He moved with his parents to Kentucky in a very early day, and settled in Christian County. In 1851 he moved to McCracken County and located five miles west of Paducah. In 1871 he located where he now resides[Ballard Co.] on 150 acres of land, which he has accumulated by his own industry. Mr. Brame was married September 24, 1843 to Myra J. Wyatt, of Christian County, Ky., a daughter of Richard N. And Mary (Harrison) Wyatt. They had born to them by this marriage eleven children: Martha A., William T., Mary (Mrs. Thompson), Zachariah, Callie (now Frazier), George, Kate E., Elizabeth (now Hall), Louella, Edward B. and Andrew J. Mr. Brame and wife are Baptists. He is a Mason and votes the Democratic ticket." -History of Kentucky Illustrated, Edition I Battle/Perrin/Kniffen Louisville: F.A.Battey Publishing Co., 1885 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ==== KYBALLAR Mailing List ==== "Show me the manner in which a nation cares for its dead, and I will measure with mathematical exactness the tender mercies of its people, their respect for the laws of the land and their loyalty to high ideals." - William Gladstone