I have seldom given much thought to middle names of colonial American ancestors except When someone, male or female, shows up on a *vast database* such as IGI, Ancestral File and all the knock-offs, with a middle name and an early date of birth (usually wrong), then my *suspect* antenna go up. (I generally avoid these databases, as I have found them so flawed--mainly in dates and places. The English IGI, when names and dates and places are extracted from parish records are generally acceptable, but beware of other such databases.) As the nation matured and became more populated, however, and many persons shared the same name, middle names did seem to pop up. In my own lineage, I am descended from one Samuel Farrar Williams, who, in his rejected Revolutionary War pension claim, filed in Kentucky, states he was born in 1759 in Granville Co., NC. (This was one of the truthful statements in his application.) He seems to be my earliest ancestor with a middle name, and, fruitlessly, I have searched for years to try to determine whether the parental Williams family was linked to a Farrar family, who were prominent in the early history of counties along the James River. The closest solution I have come to is a 1742 tithable list for Goochland Co., VA in which S.F.W's grandfather, John Williams [just plain John Williams, which confuses many researchers] has listed as one of his tithables a William Farrar. (This list appears in an old issue of The Virginia Genealogist.) In a lecture at a (1999, I believe) NGS conference, held in Richmond, VA, I heard Helen F.M.Leary, a noted genealogist of North Carolina, give a talk on how one could determine whether one's North Carolinian had Virginia roots. One of the clues was if the person had a middle name!!!! Another pointer of Virginia origins was if the wife, in a deed executed by her spouse, relinquished her dower rights. Seemingly, this was a requirement in Virginia but not in North Carolina. Of course, one must ALWAYS remember that for every rule, there is always an exception, and those of us with North Carolina and Virginia roots, know there are plenty of exceptions!!! I believe I had read earlier than middle names had been forbidden in England, at least for the lower classes. Discussion of naming patterns is of interest, probably because for every *rule*, as stated, there is an exception. E.W.Wallace

SOLOMON WILLIAMS - Granville Co.,NC >Fayette Co.,TN- Revolutionary War Pension File (Transcribed by Deloris Williams- delwilliams@insightbb.com - from copies of microfilm M805 - Roll 874 - Image 289 - File S.3591 - Several pages in this file are poorly written and deteriorating, making it extremely difficult to decipher, there may be places with question marks by me. Any comments by me are enclosed in square [ ] brackets) Ltr of Pension & Order to Pay July 8, 1837 1944 West Tennessee SOLOMON WILLIAMS Fayette Co., in the State of W.T. Who was a Pri in the Co. commanded By CAPT. LANGSTON of the Regt commanded By COL. TAYLOR in the N.C. Line for 7 months Inscribed on the Roll of W.T. At the rate of 23 Dollars 33 Cents per Annum To commence on the 4th day of March 1831 Certificate of Pension the 10 day Sept.. 1833 and Applicant Wolf River P.O. Arrears to the 4th of Sept - 58.33 Semi-annual allowance ending 1 March - 11.67 --------- $ 70.00 Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 Recorded by SAML BOYD Clerk Book 6 - Vol. 7 - Page 101 War Department Pension Office 183 Sir; The evidence in support of your claim, under the Act of June 7, 1832, has been examined and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace ( thus }). You will when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim. STATEMENT Showing the Service of SOLOMON WILLIAMS Fayette County Tennessee Period of Service - Name/Rank of Company Officer - Country Marched thru - Place when Entered/Current Age - Evidence of Service Served two tours of 3 months each} - 6 months - CAP. LANGSTON/CAP. HESTER - Served at different times to guard public stores at Harrisburg & Williamsborough - 70 Years/Granville County, N.Carolina - Traditionary evidence no clergyman Reverend given Witness certified written paper not properly authenticated . Served at other times} - 1 month - CAPT. BLACKWELL/COL. TAYLOR I am respectfully your obedient Servant, J. L. EDWARDS Commissioner of Pensions In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7, 1832 State of Tennessee Fayette County ?This? day of July 1833 personally appeared before the Justices of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions in and for the County of Fayette in the State of Tennessee SOLOMON WILLIAMS aged Seventy who being first duly sworn according to law doth his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit the provisions made by the Act of Congress June 7, 1832 that he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served ?as? ?Tenesse? ?stated? He served tours of three months each in the drafted militia of the State of North Carolina and even called out in ?extra? service at different times to guard public stores at Harrisburg & Williamsburg in the state of North Carolina which last mention service that this declarant thinks was about one month making in all 7 months service. That he was at different times under the command of CAPTAIN JAMES LANGSTON, CAPTAIN WILLIAM HUSTER and CAPTAIN JAMES BLACKWELL, MAJOR ?COOK?, COL JOSEPH TAYLOR the service was performed in the State of North Carolina against the Tories. This declarant further states that he took a tour of three months in the troop of horse commanded by CAPTAIN BLACKWELL. ????? ??? the regiment to which they were attached were garrisoned from troups and commanded by ?CAPT. JOSEPH TAYLOR? Marching from Granville to ?Cape Fear river? From thence to Fayette at time called Cross ?Creek? and thence to Wilmington. This declarant states that he [illegible] skirmishes with the Tories near the Ruft Swamp where the Tories fled and were pursued by BLACKWELL's company of Horse and ten or 11 prisoners taken. This declarant further states that he took a prisoner after pursuing him two or three miles. The troops were then under the command of GENL BUTLER. He was at Wilmington and was sent as an [illegible]from that place with a certain LITTLETON FULLER to Newburn for flints which was as ?pursuance? {illegible] from MAJ. COOK when they returned to Wilmington CORNWALLIS surrendered to GENL. WASHINGTON This declarant was not at any time in service with the regulars This declarant states that he was born in Granville County North Carolina in the year 1762 on the 1st day of January as he believes altho he has no record of his ??? birth and have kept only from memory the year of his birth. The declarant resided in Granville County North Carolina where he was drafted each time and rendezvoused at Harrisburg He removed from Granville to Wake County N. Carolina 28 or 30 years age and from thence to Fayette County Tennessee where he resided three years. And from there to the County where he now resides and has resided for the last three years ?Declarant? is known to DANL S. BUMEYER a member of Congress at the time this declarant left No. Carolina and the HON. JUDGE MANGUM a senator in Congress from N. Carolina and in the neighbourhood where the declarant now lives he is known to DANL JOHNSTON and JOEL L. JONES Sheriff of the County of Fayette and who now is in the city Sheriff of Fayette County Tennessee and this affiant is known to many respectable citizens of Fayette County Tennessee and in the neighbourhood where he resides this applicant ?had? a discharge from CAPT BLACKWELL and he thinks he received a discharge or certificate from CAPTAIN LANGSTON and has lost or mislaid it long since and further does not know of any documentary evidence or any living witness by which he can ?verify?? from his services as he is in a Section of Country entirely separated those who served with him. This affiant has no recollection of the date of entry or leaving the service. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state. The Court propounded the following interrogatories to the said applicant SOLOMON WILLIAMS 1st -Where and in what year were you born Answer: 1762 is that year I was born 2nd -Have you any record of your age and if so where is it Answer: I have no record of my age as present my father had my [illegible] in a book that was some way lost or mislaid 3rd- Where were you living when called into service and where have you lived since the Revolutionary War and where do you live Answer: I was living in Granville North Carolina when I entered the service of the Revolution and have lived in North Carolina in Wake and Granville Counties three years ago and from thence to this County of Fayette Tennessee. 4th - How were you called into service were you drafted did you volunteer or were you a substitute for whom Answer: I was drafted and volunteered if it may be called I was drawn on the 3rd November to serve and was no substitute 5th - COL PHILIP TAYLOR one of the regular officers who commanded in the regiment of the Continental army as he was called gave me a discharge 6th - Did you ever receive discharge from the service and if so by whom was it given and what has become of it Answer: I did see a discharge from COL PHILIP TAYLOR after one tour and another from CAPT BLACKWELL Captain of a Militia company which discharges have been lost or mislaid 7th - State the person to whom you are known in your present neighbourhood and who can testify as to your character for veracity and their belief of your services as a Soldier of the Revolution. Answer: I am acquainted with DANL JOHNSTON, Esq., M. FAULKNER, JOEL L. JONES, Sheriff of Fayette County and many others in the neighbourhood who will testify as to my character for veracity and their belief of my services as a Soldier of the Revolution as stated. Sworn to and subscribed to this 9th day of July 1833 [signed, his mark] SOLOMON WILLIAMS THOS C. HUDSON,Clk Rev. and 1812 Section January 8, 1925 Dr. R. L. Walty Springfield, Ill. Sir: I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S.3591, it appears that Solomon Williams was born January 1, 1762 in Granville County, North Carolina. While residing in said County, he served seven months under Captains James Langston, William Huster, and James Blackwell, Colonel Joseph Taylor's North Carolina Regiment, no dates stated. He served three months in Captain Blackwell's Troop of Horse, Colonel Taylor's North Carolina Regiment and was in a skirmish near Raft Swamp, no dates stated. He was allowed pension on his application executed July 9, 1833, while a resident of Fayette County, Tennessee. There is no data on file as to his family. The above noted Solomon Williams, is the only soldier by that name found on the Revolutionary War records of this Bureau, who served in the North Carolina Troops. Respectfully, Commissioner

CARTER HUDSPETH -Surry County,North Carolina-Revolutionary War Pension (Transcribed by Deloris Williams - delwilliams@insightbb.com- from microfilm copies of M805- Roll 451 - Image 514 - File - S.7058 - Born in 1747 in Granville County North Carolina , and later moved to Surry County, North Carolina, according to the Pension application. Sometimes listed as Hedgepeth, Hedgpeth, Hedgebeth or Headspeth, probably the son of the person by the same name who was listed on several land records for 1760 -1762 as living in Granville County, North Carolina, near Fishing Creek. May have been the chain carrier for Giles Hedgepeth, along with George Hedgpeth, in 1760. Carter Hedspath, Sr. had land beside Valentine White near Fishing Creek, in 1761. Carter Hedge Beth was among the signers of a Petition filed in 1771, from a group of Granville County inhabitants asking for a repeal of the Act making Free Negroes & Mulatto Women and all spouses of the same, listed as tythables. There was also a Carter Hedgpeth in Nansemond County, Virginia, in 1755, who turned up in Granville County, NC for the first time that same year, probably Carter Hedgepeth, Sr. Transcribing as is, misspellings included. Notations below enclosed within square [ ] brackets are mine) 12 075 North Carolina CARTER HUDSPETH Of Surry in the State of N. Car. Who was a Pri in the _______commanded By Captain ________of the Regt. Commanded by LYTLE in the N. Car. Line for 1 year. Inscribed on the Roll of N. Carolina At the rate of 40.00 Dollars ___cents per annum To commence on the 4th day March 1831 Certificate of Pension issued the 22nd day of March 1833 and sent to JOHN WRIGHT Hamptonville Arrears to the 4th of March 1833 - 80.00 Semi-annual allowance issued 4 Sept. - 20.00 --------- $100.00 Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 Recorded by NATHAN RICE, Clerk Book 3 - Vol - 6 - Page 42 7058 INVALID CARTER HUDSPETH Priv Rev War Act: June 7, 1832 Page: 184 Brief in the case of CARTER HUDSPETH of Surry County in the State of North Carolina Act 7th June, 1832 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Justice of the Peace 2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? Yes 3. How old is he? 84 Years 4. State his service as directed in the form annexed. In 1778 Drafted - Duration: 6 Months - As a: Private - Generals & Field Officers: GENERAL RUTHERFORD, CAPT. HAPPUM In 1780 Volunteered - Duration: 3 Months - As a: Private - Officers: COL. LITLE, MAJOR NELSON, MAJOR NELSON, CAPT. MCLOUD In 1780 Volunteered - Duration: 3 Months - As a: Private - Officers: WM. HAITHCOCK, RANGER CAPT BURKE 5. In what battles were you engaged? ?Brow Creek? 6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Surry County, No. Car. 7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, or by the rolls? One living witness in part & traditionary 8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? And if so, in what respect? ---- I certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned. [signed] O.S. -Examining Clerk CARTER HUDSPETH North Carolina No. 5832 Admd for 12 mos ??????? $40.00 ?CAP HEPTED? COL ?JESSIE? For? 1778 NC Militia Pg 113 29 Nov JOHN WRIGHT Hamptonvill NC ED State of No Ca Surry County On this 23rd day of August in the year of Our Lord One thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty two. Personally appeared before me JOSIAH COWLES a Justice of the Peace and a member of the County Court of Surry State of North Carolina CARTER HUDSPETH a resident of said County aged eighty four years who first being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7th 1832- that in or about the month of October in the year 1778 he was drafted in to the company of North Carolina Militia commanded by CAPT. JAMES SHEPPARD, LIEUT JOHN DUNLAP, ENSIGN AARON LISBY, that under their command he marched to the ???????? at Salisbury No. Ca. thence under the command of GENERAL RUTHERFORD they marched on to ?Purisburgh? on the Tavana River the army moved by the ?east? of Camden South Carolina on by Dorchester Smoky Camp at which place our army was cald on for volunteers to go under COL LITTLE & MAJOR NELSON of the Continental line. We were cald on for two days. I made one of the no who volunteerd and in sted of two days was gone two months and our tour had a fatal termination at the Battle of Briar Creek where the Americans were most shockingly massacred but I had the fortune to escape by swimming the River with the loss of all army ammunition & clothing except his hat I then joined GEN RUTHERFORD and term of five months was gone out but by particular request he volunteered till relieff should come which was one month longer making in all six months, he was months back to No. Ca. & then I was virbaly discharged not thinking it was necessary to have a written one having faithfully served his time the next time was in the Summer of 1780 when he volunteered as a Ranger under CAPT CLOUD, LIEUT BLALOCK he were severly employed in keeping down the Tories, he took several and dispersed them in many places. He performed his tour & returned home he did apply for a discharge the Tories were very troublesome and kept us very busy. This tour was for three months. Shortly after this, soon after the Battle at Guilford C.H. he served three months under CAPT. BANKS of the Militia. The following answers are made to the queries as propounded by the Magistrate. The same as sets down in the directions. 1 - I was born in Granville County No. Ca. in the year 1747 2d- None but in a family record of my grand Fathers, which is now destroyed 3 - I lived in Surry County No. Car. & have since lived in Surry 4 - I was drafted to go to Purisburgh was a volunteer at all other times 5 - As to the Regular officers I recollect GEN LINCOLN, GEN ELBERT, GEN WILLIAMSON, GEN BRYANT. BRYANT was at the Battle of Bryce Creek 6 - I have no recollection of receiving but one discharge, it was for three months signed by ROBERT BURTON & is cost, I have no documentary evidence. 7 - To prove his claim as to the veracity & belief as to service he refers to THO WRIGHT, ZACHARIAH PETTY & Others. He hereby ??????? an claim whatever to a Pension or Anuity except the present and declare that his name is not on the Pension roll of any Agency in any state or teritory Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid [signed] J. COWLES, JP & M.C.C. CARTER HUDSPETH We JOHN ANGEL a clergyman residing in Surry County & THOS WRIGHT residing in the same county hereby certify that we are well acquainted with CARTER HUDSPETH who has signed the above Declaration that we believe him to be 84 years of age. That he is reported & believed to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion. Sworn to and subscribed this day and date first above written. [signed] JOHN ANGEL T. WRIGHT J. COWLES, JP & M.C.C. And the said magistrate does declare it is his opinion after the investigation of the matter and putting the investigatories prescribed by the war department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier & served as he states. And further that applicants claim that JOHN ANGEL who has signed the prescribed certificate is a clergyman and that THO WRIGHT who had also signed the same is a credible president and both residents of Surry County and their statement is entitled to credit. J. COWLES, JP & M.C..C. State No. Ca. Surry County This day came ROBERT HORN [there is a name inserted above, but it is illegible] before per JOSIAH COWLES, a Justice of the Peace for said county and made oath in due form of law, that he was in the army of the Revolution and was in CAPT. SHEPPERD' company of N. Ca. Militia and that CARTER HUDSPETH who has signed the preceding declaration was in the same company and they served the whole tours through together. The draft was for 5 months but they staid 6 months as stated in the declaration. And that they returned home together & that Pr HUDSPETH did perform thru the whole tour with honor & that he thinks HUDSPETH was discharged at the same time as himself but has forgotten it. Sworn to & subscribed this day & date as above written [signed] ROBERT HORN J. COWLES JP & M.C.C. I the magistrate is of the opinion that the above named CARTER HUDSPETH could not without ?spirit? ?????? & inconvenience go to court as he is very feeble. The distance is 17 miles & very bad roads & dangerous ford across the Yadkin & no ferry [signed] J. COWLES JP & M.C.C. No. Ca Surry County JNO REAVES SR. swears that he was in the Company to ?Surry County? And that he concurs the above affidavit of ROBERT HORN as to the service of CARTER HUDSPETH. Sworn to as above [signed] JOHN REAVES J.COWLES, JP I JOHN WRIGHT the Clerk of the County Court of Surry County State of North Carolina do certify that JOSIAH COWLES whose attestating signature appears to the foregoing is a Justice of the Peace & a member of the County Court of Surry County and is sworn as mag. And that all due forth credit us & ought to be given his official acts as such. Given under my hand & seal of office this 24 day of August 1832 [signed] JOHN WRIGHT CC North Carolina Surry County This day came CARTER HUDSPETH whose signature is to the foregoing Declaration and made oath in due form of law before me JOSIAH COWLES one of the Magistrates of Surry County & a member of the County Court to the following additional particulary that by reason of bodily infirmity, and the failure of memory consignant on old age, he cannot be more particular than set forth in the foregoing declaration. He performed many short tours of service the particulars of which are forgotten. He is certain of the twelve months specified. He has no further testimony either oral or documentary within the reach of his procurements Neither does he know of any other living witnesses. Sworn to and subscribed this 15th day of Dec. 1832 before me J.COWLES, J.P., M.C.C. [signed] CARTER HUDSPETH I JOSIAH COWLES a Justice of the Peace of Surry County do hereby certify that ROBERT HORN & JOHN REAVIS who have certified to the foregoing described services of CARTER HUDSPETH are both men of fair & impeachable character for truth. [signed] J. COWLES, JP. M.C.C. I JOHN WRIGHT the Clerk of the Court of Surry County do hereby certify that JOSIAH COWLES whose signature appears to the foregoing certificate & alteration is a magistrate & a member of the County Court of Surry County & that all due faith & credit is & right ought to be given to his official acts as such & further that the above signature are genuine. In testimony whereof I have affixed my seal of office & subscribed my name officiate this 15th day of December 1832. [signed] JOHN WRIGHT, CC Hamptonville March 33 J. L. EDWARDS, ESQUIRE, Commissioner of Pensions Washington City Hamptonville 30 March 1833 Sir in the certificate you sent me of C. Hudspeth you will find it enclosed for correction. If you will examine you will find that the applicant is Carter Hudspeth and not Charles as stated in the certificate. You will much oblige an old feeble man C. Hudspeth by returning Certificate with dispatch. Likewise the applicants named James Anthony, Overton ?Pearce? and the Reverend John Angel would be gratified to hear from the Department these on the explanations I sent on in February. Very Respectfully, John Wright ====================== Deloris Williams

William Mitchiner wrote: >Granville County was cut from Edgecombe County in 1746 and it was cut of >agiain in 1764. The McGhees lived in what is now Franklin County. I was personally acquained with the family in the Franklinton area which was half a dozen miles from the Granville eastern line. The Preddys lived close to the McGhees, possibly a mile or so north. I am 93 and don't do much research any more, but had to share this bit. I wish you success Born in Franklin County and lived in Granville County more than fprty years. William Mitchiner - Raleigh, NC<

Also, to the person looking for McGehee, I have the 1755 Granville Tax List, and there are no persons by that name, spelled in any form, except a WM. MACBEE, but I believe that is his real spelling since I've seen his name before. There are MAGEHEEs in the 1788 Granville Tax List, though. BENJN. BENJN. SR. JESSE JOSEPH JOSIAH NATHAN NATHAN ROBERT Evelyn may be right about the family being in other counties. There are several listed in "Person County, North Carolina Compilations,Land Grants 1794,1805, 1823 Tax Lists, Record Books of Abstracts 1792-1820", by Katherine Kerr Kendall, but these seem to be a later date than the ones you are looking for. Deloris Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hdanw@aol.com> To: <NCGRANVI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:33 PM Subject: [NCGRANVI] Re: NCGRANVI-D Digest V05 #11 Regarding James McGehee >I have Timothy Rackley's abstracts of Granville Co. NC wills (citation >given > below), but the only index entry for James McGehee is as a witness to a > will > of Robert Priddey proved Nov Court 1761. Witnesses; John Cape, Ann > Priddey, > James (X) Makgehe > > (Timothy W. Rackley, Granville County, North Carolina Original Wills, > Vol. > 1, 1749-1810 [Kernersville, NC: Published by author, 2002], p. 114) > > Comment: Granville Co., at one time, included practically all the > northern > part of North Carolina, according to historians. Perhaps McGehee was a > neighbor of the Priddys, but he may have been living in another [perhaps > adjoining] county. You might post to Orange Co., NC and also Person Co., > NC. See > below for Taylor's Creek. I don't know the location of Taylor's Creek. > It may > be a reservoir by now, or its name may have changed. > > However, There is a deed in (I have left out all the metes and bounds) > > Deed Bk M-165-166 of one Nathaniel McGehee of Granville Co., NC to John > Rogers of Pitt Co., NC, 27 Nov 1777 - 100 acres for 100 pds. ... > McGehee's corner > on little fork of Taylor's Creek.... it being part of a tract of land > granted to James McGehee, the Father of Nathaniel McGehee, by a Deed from > the Earl > of Granville bearing date March 1761. Nathaniel (N)McGehee. Wit: > Joseph > Hill, William (W) Smith, John Nevill, Jurat. Granville Co May Court > 1779. > > (Timothy W. Rackley, Granville County, North Carolina Deeds 1755-1782 > [Kernersville, NC: Published by author, 2002], p. 114) > > Other books pertaining to Granville Co. abstracts of early records have > been > published by these authors. I think some of Gwynn's books are at the Los > Angeles Public Library, as they are relatively old (1970s) by now. One > book of > hers, called something like Kinfolks of Granville Co., NC [or just > Kinfolk] > has been filmed (microfiched) by Family History Library, and should not > cost > more than about 45 cents (or less) if you order to your LDS FHC. > > Thomas McAdory Owen - a book entitled something like History and > Genealogies > of Old Granville Co., NC. Owen was State Archivist of Alabama Archives > for > many years, and the clerks at Granville Co. seemed to have turned him > loose > in the courthouse. He has notes that no one seems to have examined. > Some > great nuggets. His book is by Southern Historical Press. Some nice > genealogists from Arkansas, I believe, transcribed from his microfilmed > notes, which are > held by the Library of Congress. > > Timothy Rackley has a website: > > members.tripod.com/rackley_publishing/ > > After the Revolution, some of Granville Co. people went to Georgia (mine > included). Others went to Kentucy (mine included), particularly Henderson > Co., > which had been claimed by Col. Richard Henderson. > > Sometimes the AIS (Accelerated Indexing System) which is on microfiche > (hundreds of them) at most LDS FHCs is a somewhat comprehensive census > index for > the whole US through at least 1850 census, and the first Search--Search > One--includes some early tax lists to make up for the missing 1790 census. > This index to the censuses frequently helps one pick up the migration > trails > of your wandering ancestors. (Take a look at the Mortality Schedules > which > are at the end of the AIS) > > In some places, the 1755 tax list for Granville Co. has been published, > and > I believe I saw it on one of the Granville Co. websites, but I don't > recall > which one. There may be some early militia lists also. Some libraries > in > Southern California may have older issues of the NC Genealogical Society > Journal > which include some early lists for Granville Co. I believe the NC Gen > Society is currently selling a CD-ROM --images of the first numbers of > journals > for NCGSJ. > > Hope this helps. > > E.W.Wallace > > > E.W.Wallace > > > ==== NCGRANVI Mailing List ==== > Granville County List Administrator > Debra McCann - chenae@ap.net > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. 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I have Timothy Rackley's abstracts of Granville Co. NC wills (citation given below), but the only index entry for James McGehee is as a witness to a will of Robert Priddey proved Nov Court 1761. Witnesses; John Cape, Ann Priddey, James (X) Makgehe (Timothy W. Rackley, Granville County, North Carolina Original Wills, Vol. 1, 1749-1810 [Kernersville, NC: Published by author, 2002], p. 114) Comment: Granville Co., at one time, included practically all the northern part of North Carolina, according to historians. Perhaps McGehee was a neighbor of the Priddys, but he may have been living in another [perhaps adjoining] county. You might post to Orange Co., NC and also Person Co., NC. See below for Taylor's Creek. I don't know the location of Taylor's Creek. It may be a reservoir by now, or its name may have changed. However, There is a deed in (I have left out all the metes and bounds) Deed Bk M-165-166 of one Nathaniel McGehee of Granville Co., NC to John Rogers of Pitt Co., NC, 27 Nov 1777 - 100 acres for 100 pds. ... McGehee's corner on little fork of Taylor's Creek.... it being part of a tract of land granted to James McGehee, the Father of Nathaniel McGehee, by a Deed from the Earl of Granville bearing date March 1761. Nathaniel (N)McGehee. Wit: Joseph Hill, William (W) Smith, John Nevill, Jurat. Granville Co May Court 1779. (Timothy W. Rackley, Granville County, North Carolina Deeds 1755-1782 [Kernersville, NC: Published by author, 2002], p. 114) Other books pertaining to Granville Co. abstracts of early records have been published by these authors. I think some of Gwynn's books are at the Los Angeles Public Library, as they are relatively old (1970s) by now. One book of hers, called something like Kinfolks of Granville Co., NC [or just Kinfolk] has been filmed (microfiched) by Family History Library, and should not cost more than about 45 cents (or less) if you order to your LDS FHC. Thomas McAdory Owen - a book entitled something like History and Genealogies of Old Granville Co., NC. Owen was State Archivist of Alabama Archives for many years, and the clerks at Granville Co. seemed to have turned him loose in the courthouse. He has notes that no one seems to have examined. Some great nuggets. His book is by Southern Historical Press. Some nice genealogists from Arkansas, I believe, transcribed from his microfilmed notes, which are held by the Library of Congress. Timothy Rackley has a website: members.tripod.com/rackley_publishing/ After the Revolution, some of Granville Co. people went to Georgia (mine included). Others went to Kentucy (mine included), particularly Henderson Co., which had been claimed by Col. Richard Henderson. Sometimes the AIS (Accelerated Indexing System) which is on microfiche (hundreds of them) at most LDS FHCs is a somewhat comprehensive census index for the whole US through at least 1850 census, and the first Search--Search One--includes some early tax lists to make up for the missing 1790 census. This index to the censuses frequently helps one pick up the migration trails of your wandering ancestors. (Take a look at the Mortality Schedules which are at the end of the AIS) In some places, the 1755 tax list for Granville Co. has been published, and I believe I saw it on one of the Granville Co. websites, but I don't recall which one. There may be some early militia lists also. Some libraries in Southern California may have older issues of the NC Genealogical Society Journal which include some early lists for Granville Co. I believe the NC Gen Society is currently selling a CD-ROM --images of the first numbers of journals for NCGSJ. Hope this helps. E.W.Wallace E.W.Wallace

Have you looked at Genealogy.com on the Message Boards? Go to genforum.com and pull up the Foard family genealogy forum....message 124 of 125 messages.....this person is also seeking info on Henry..... > http://genforum.genealogy.com/foard/messages/124.html Also....see my post on that same board regarding the book on the Foard family.....the link to that book is: > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/1624/index.html > Hope this helps!! (My connection to the Foard family is through Francis Foard and one of his many children, Elmina Foard, who married Ambrose San(d)ford. These Foards were in Person Co., NC.) On Friday, July 8, 2005, at 09:16 PM, DKS wrote: > Any clues regarding which FORD-FOARD family claims my > ancestor Henry FORD/FOARD!! Lived in VA.....moved in > 1795 and died in 1808 in Pittsylvania Co VA. Estimated > birth 1740..? Your thoughts are appreciated!! Debbie > Wood > > Henry FORD appears to have lived in Charlotte Co VA > where some of his children married. > A Henry FORD appears in court records with: > Culverine, > Abner, > Hezekiah > Elisha [name also in my Ford family] > and other FORDs. > > I've seen Henry FORD names in later FORD families who > moved from MD to Mecklenburg NC. > > I've seen later familes with a Henry FORD and I've > seen an earlier Henry FORD. > > No record found for Henry and Frances FORDs marriage, > which would have taken place abt 1760. > > His estate records in Pittsylvania Co VA show that > Frances was already deceased when Henry died in 1808. > Names found in relation to Henry FOARD's estate > records are: > > WOODARD, MARTIN, THOMPSON, SHELTON, SPENCER, > BARKSDALE, EDWARD, HICKS, RAGLAND, JONES, TERRY, > ELLIS. > > Very early clergy records have a Henry FORD of > VA,would've been an adult by 1730, who was a grammar > school teacher; HEZEKIAH was listed as his brother > (letters to Bishop of London at Library of VA) Henry > requests to become a minister ( Church of England) and > to replace the spot left by a Deveraux Jarrett.[name > Jarrett in my Ford family]. > > I realize the research on the early FORDS is fairly > sketchy, but my Henry must be related somehow to these > known lines, as his family names reflect as much. > > If anyone has an inkling as to where Henry may belong, > please drop me a line. > > My Henry and wife Frances(MDNU) would've married circa > 1760 had children: > > John m.Frances Haynes circa 1791 > > Elisha born circa 1761 m.Rebecca Haley > > Eliz. m. Harrison Ashworth in 1791 > > Sarah m. James Murphy 1796 in Halifax Co VA > > Frances m. Josiah Shelton in Halifax Co VA 1797 > > Jarrett m. Nancy Haley > > William Henry m. Eliz. > > Thomas m. Rebecca Burton 1793, Charlotte Co VA > > Mary m. Ambrose Haley 1803, Pittsylvania Co VA > > The Haley's are children of Lewis and Leannah Haley of > King and Queen Co Va and Charlotte Co VA. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== NCGRANVI Mailing List ==== > Granville County List Administrator > Debra McCann - chenae@ap.net > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Any clues regarding which FORD-FOARD family claims my ancestor Henry FORD/FOARD!! Lived in VA.....moved in 1795 and died in 1808 in Pittsylvania Co VA. Estimated birth 1740..? Your thoughts are appreciated!! Debbie Wood Henry FORD appears to have lived in Charlotte Co VA where some of his children married. A Henry FORD appears in court records with: Culverine, Abner, Hezekiah Elisha [name also in my Ford family] and other FORDs. I've seen Henry FORD names in later FORD families who moved from MD to Mecklenburg NC. I've seen later familes with a Henry FORD and I've seen an earlier Henry FORD. No record found for Henry and Frances FORDs marriage, which would have taken place abt 1760. His estate records in Pittsylvania Co VA show that Frances was already deceased when Henry died in 1808. Names found in relation to Henry FOARD's estate records are: WOODARD, MARTIN, THOMPSON, SHELTON, SPENCER, BARKSDALE, EDWARD, HICKS, RAGLAND, JONES, TERRY, ELLIS. Very early clergy records have a Henry FORD of VA,would've been an adult by 1730, who was a grammar school teacher; HEZEKIAH was listed as his brother (letters to Bishop of London at Library of VA) Henry requests to become a minister ( Church of England) and to replace the spot left by a Deveraux Jarrett.[name Jarrett in my Ford family]. I realize the research on the early FORDS is fairly sketchy, but my Henry must be related somehow to these known lines, as his family names reflect as much. If anyone has an inkling as to where Henry may belong, please drop me a line. My Henry and wife Frances(MDNU) would've married circa 1760 had children: John m.Frances Haynes circa 1791 Elisha born circa 1761 m.Rebecca Haley Eliz. m. Harrison Ashworth in 1791 Sarah m. James Murphy 1796 in Halifax Co VA Frances m. Josiah Shelton in Halifax Co VA 1797 Jarrett m. Nancy Haley William Henry m. Eliz. Thomas m. Rebecca Burton 1793, Charlotte Co VA Mary m. Ambrose Haley 1803, Pittsylvania Co VA The Haley's are children of Lewis and Leannah Haley of King and Queen Co Va and Charlotte Co VA. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hello Everyone, I was wondering if someone on the list might have access to the abstract books, etc. for Granville Co, and see if there is anything in them regarding the estate of one James McGehee, wife Rebecca (Pruitt), who died there I'm told ca 1774. The name could be spelled any of many ways: Mackgehee, Magee, McGhee, McGayhe, etc. Several references say he died before October 22, 1774, so I'm assume that was when his will was probated, or administrator of estate chosen, etc. They lived in Hanover/Louisa Counties VA, were married under care of Henrico MM, Quaker meeting there in 1721. He moved there approximately 1755 when many Quakers left Virginia, including my Clark/Stone/Moorman/Haley group to Anson, because they were constantly being stripped of possessions for failure to participate in militias. I have only this reference from Granville related records: > James McGehe 600 acres. Plotted by a Scale of 200 poles to an inch. > Surveyed October 13th 1756 for James MackGehe. 600 acres of land according > to the above plan lying in Granville County & on both sides a fork of Taylor > Creek. Beg. At a Red oak on the South Side the sd Creek thence running N 400 > po to a white oak on the sd Creek thence W240 po to a white oak thence S 400 > po to a white oak thence E 240 po to the Beg. > Thanks for any assistance...Researching Robertson (Rob*son), Faulkner, Dickerson, Short of Granville Co. myself. McGehee is a collateral interest. Best Regards, Janet Baugh Hunter

I cut and pasted this from Harris-Hunters rootsweb. Please pass it along to interested parties. (My people came to Granville Co. ca late 1740s, but the counties kept dividing. Others were in Orange Co., later Caswell Co., and still others were in old Rowan Co. when it was *the wild west*) There's a good NC map set at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/countyfm.htm The map displayed when you access this page shows the current counties. You can click on the links below to show the changing county boundaries over time. This is very useful in dealing with NC in the 18th and 19th centuries, since many counties were split up over time to form smaller units. E.W.Wallace

This is to apologize for a e-mail sent last Wednesday to this and other lists sent by my niece but written by me and I never intended it to be sent. Once written, my anger was released and I thought better. However, my niece can go from Lady to the word use for female dog in 4.2 seconds. I did not realize she had sent the message until the next morning. That being say, some good things came form the e-mail. 1. After a discussion with AOL, I now get it for $7.00 less. 2. Many e mails were sent in agreement. 3. The lady who ripped me off has now listed my research as hers on her web site, with the a Mulatto slave as the great grandfather of her husband. She said she did the research herself. 4. She sent to me updated information about her family with birthdays and maiden names of living people. Smart enough to ripped me off, dumb enough to send that information to a total stranger. On the downside after doing genealogical research for thirty-three years and having two articles published in The American Genealogist, I will now quit genealogy. I will leave it to the new breed of Internet Genealogists that have no sense of right or wrong. So no need to unsubscribe me for an apology, I will do that soon myself. Thank You Tonto Bernstein

The marriage should be for Hardeman/Hardy West to a Susan Baker, his father married a Michel Frazier.

Does anyone on the list have access to Granville County Marriages? If so could I ask a great favor of you. Would you check for a marriage for Hardiman/Hardy West to a Susan Frazier about 1840. If I can do anything for you in Stokes or Surry Counties please let me know. I have marriages for tthese two counties to 1899 Thank you Lucinda Thus saith the Lord, Stand ye in the ways and see, and ask for the old paths where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. Jeremiah 6:16

Deborah Turner reportedly married William Lawrence in 1756. I am unclear where she was born or where she was married. I have not been able to find her parents. Your help will be greatly appreciated. In return I might be able to help you with the following Granville families: HESTER, CREWS, EARL, BOWDON, HILLIARD, AIKEN//AKIN, NUNN, WHITFIELD, WEATHERS, WICKER, GRIMSLEY, BRADFORD, JONES Tom Aiken Virginia Beach --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.

I know some of you will get this message through several of the above lists. I don't mean to cram your mailboxes but this is too good to miss! I've been laughing all day. An elderly lady I met yesterday said she heard someone say this with all seriousness: "We had to marry our cousins; otherwise we would have had to marry beneath us."

Hi. I am looking for any and all information on Martha HIGGS who married Richard T. PASCHALL on Dec. 31, 1832. I have most of her children's names, but I would like information on who her parents were and any siblings that she had. Apparently they moved from North Carolina to Tennessee after 1838 but before 1843...this is from census records and where they say their children were born. The information I have found on Richard Paschall is that he died in NC...but again according to census records, their last 3 children were born in Tennessee. Any information would be greatly appreciated. THANK YOU Sylvia Fleming

You may also want to try a Family History Center (Mormon Church). I had ordered films that contained marriage bonds for Wake and Johnston Co, NC. Not sure how much it presently is to rent them. You have to view the film at their center. Diane Pollard Keiser janethunter703@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 4/25/2005 10:34:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >Carolyngenealogy@aol.com writes: > > > > >>William Claxton to Mary Ann Anderson, Granville County, NC >>Bond Date: 5 May 1772, Bond # 31551, Image # 3394 >> >>If any record of this marriage exists, it could make a tremendous difference >>in the genealogy of the Claxton family of Tennessee. >> >>I have written to the Granville County Register of Deeds and received a >>reply. She does not have this document. Where should I be looking? >> >> >> > >Carolyn, > >The bonds are on microfilm at the NC State Archives (or should be as I found >some Wake County ones I wanted there), and probably originals at the NC State >Archives also. I'm not sure where you live, but they do lookups. Try this >address for requesting by mail: > >http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/archives/mail.htm > >There are links there to explore the entire website. > >Good Luck! >Janet Hunter > > > > >==== NCGRANVI Mailing List ==== >Granville County List Administrator >Debra McCann - chenae@ap.net > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > >

Thanks to everyone who has made suggestions. I found the site for the State Archives and very specific information on ordering marriage bonds (and other records). Carolyn Smotherman

Marriage Bonds can be found at the NC State Archives. You can either go there for copies, or use their website to request copies. This is the link to their Mail Requests page, which includes pricing info and a link to a downloadable Request form. When you request the bond, I would suggest you supply the info on the record you found because that includes the Bond & Image Numbers necessary for them to locate the document: http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/archives/mail.htm and here is what kinds of records are available: http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/archives/records.htm Deloris Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: <Carolyngenealogy@aol.com> To: <NCGRANVI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:33 AM Subject: [NCGRANVI] Marriage bonds, help please >I have been given the following reference: > > William Claxton to Mary Ann Anderson, Granville County, NC > Bond Date: 5 May 1772, Bond # 31551, Image # 3394 > > If any record of this marriage exists, it could make a tremendous > difference > in the genealogy of the Claxton family of Tennessee. > > I have written to the Granville County Register of Deeds and received a > reply. She does not have this document. Where should I be looking? > > Thank you for any help-- (May I help you in Bedford Co, TN?) > Carolyn Smotherman > > > ==== NCGRANVI Mailing List ==== > Granville County List Administrator > Debra McCann - chenae@ap.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 4/25/2005 10:34:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Carolyngenealogy@aol.com writes: > William Claxton to Mary Ann Anderson, Granville County, NC > Bond Date: 5 May 1772, Bond # 31551, Image # 3394 > > If any record of this marriage exists, it could make a tremendous difference > in the genealogy of the Claxton family of Tennessee. > > I have written to the Granville County Register of Deeds and received a > reply. She does not have this document. Where should I be looking? > Carolyn, The bonds are on microfilm at the NC State Archives (or should be as I found some Wake County ones I wanted there), and probably originals at the NC State Archives also. I'm not sure where you live, but they do lookups. Try this address for requesting by mail: http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/archives/mail.htm There are links there to explore the entire website. Good Luck! Janet Hunter