Need help from someone near the Granville, NC court house, or place of their records. Wish to obtain copies of September 4, 1753 record, indictment for fornication of Abigail Shugan Jones, widow of Judge Edward Jones III, decd. Abigail was fined 5 pounds. Would like to know the name of the man who was fined 20 pounds, for fornication with Abigail. Or, does anyone have any source books that might have abstract of the incident, that would list the name of the man fined? Thanks, Sallie - TX

Lately have come across several posts asking about the availability of Bastardy Bonds. Several of the USGenweb/Rootsweb County websites have abstracts for their counties online. Here are some of the links I have found where others have generously posted them online. While you're at it, check out the entire websites to see what else may be of help to you: For those of you on the Warren County Mailing list, you already know this one where I have posted a series of messages containing Bastardy & Apprenticeships abstracts covering 1805-1868 on the Warren County Message Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.warren Nash County USGenweb- Illegimate Children 1787 -1833: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncnash/base.htm Granville County USGenweb- Bastardy Bonds 1749-1780: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgranvi/other/bas-bond.htm Orphan Bonds Granville County 1749-1786: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgranvi/other/orph-bnd.htm This is the link to the Franklin County USGenweb Home Page. Click onto the COURT RECORDS, and scroll through the various records for years 1786 - 1840, where apprenticeships & bastardy cases were handled. There are also many other records at this site, check it out if you haven't already: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncfrankl/ Bastardy Bonds-Chatham County: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncchatha/bastardy.htm You can check out the other counties from the USGenweb site by clicking onto the County you want: http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encgenweb/county.html Also, the author, Betty Camin, who wrote a book about the bastardy bonds of North Carolina, has a website which has abstracts of these kinds of records at: http://home.earthlink.net/~bcamin/betty.htm Deloris Williams

There was an interesting article in today's issue of Rootsweb Review, weekly newsletter issued for free by Rootsweb.com. It concerns Copyright Laws and its importance in the genealogy field, and gives some guidelines for copyrighted material. I'm sure many of us have been unsure about just what data can be used in certain contexts, and I think that this article was a good primer. Here is part of it: As the Internet has developed, individuals have begun to become publishers and authors in increasing numbers, especially in the genealogy field. This is good because it allows the dissemination of information from sometimes obscure sources to the entire world. But along with this I have noticed a trend toward "false copyright" and I think it deserves some attention. False copyright is when a person inserts a copyright notice in a published work without having the legal right to do so. An example would be where a person has transcribed an obituary from an old newspaper and then inserted a copyright notice -- I have seen this on some Websites and in fact there is a general notice by the USGenWeb claiming that obituaries published there are copyrighted and cannot be used for "commercial purposes." The key components of copyright law are (a) originality, (b) time, and (c) ownership. To read the entire article go to: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/review/2005/1130.txt Deloris Williams

EATON's Militia Muster Roll of 1754 Can somebody restore this link? I'm really interested in seeing the roll. Sincerely, Brownie MacKie McKisick, Ross, Bonham, Greer, etc.

Hi, I am looking for an obituary lookup or death notice for Lee Cooper who was born 1878 in Walnut Grove, Granville, NC and he died 18 September 1915 in Dunn, Harnett Co, NC. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Anna Adams

. . Hi All, I was told these families may be from Granville,There is in the 1850 Smyth Co. Va. census a Ransom J.C. Smith born in N.C. says he is 49 which would make him born in 1801-2 occupation carpenter 2 daughters Mary 19 N.C.and Isabella 13 Va. per 1850 census. Then there is a Green Smith born in N.C. 36 yrs. old wife Elizabeth 45 N.C. daughter Martha J.10 Va. son Thomas F. 8 Va. daughter Mary A.F. 6 Va. I am looking for a connection to James C. Smith 51 N.C., Lethe Brown Smith 40 N.C., children of Lethe and James are William E. 24 N.C., Sarah Ann 22 N.C., Nancy C.17 N.C., Ann Eliza 14 N.C., Mary F.11 N.C., Martha E. 7 N.C., Amanda C. 3 Va., Alexander 2 Va., and Henry C.2/12 Va. Anyone have any info on any of these families..........Bob Smith

Hi, I am looking for information on Sylvester Horne and his family. I would be interested in finding out his parents, where in North Carolina he was from. Where he and his wife got married. when he died and where in Philly. I would also love any informtion that anyone is willing to share about the other family members. I am kind of at a dead end with them and would love to jumpstart my search. Below is the info I have on the family, any other information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Anna 1. SYLVESTER2 HORNE (UNKNOWN1)1 was born 1907 in North Carolina1, and died in PHILADELPHIA, PA. He married BETTY L. MCKINNION1 1925, daughter of CHARLES MCKINNION and MAGGIE MCKINNION. She was born 1908 in North Carolina1, and died 09 Feb 1967 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania2. More About SYLVESTER HORNE: Residence: 1930, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania3 More About BETTY L. MCKINNION: Burial: 16 Feb 1967, Eden Cemetery: Catto "A" Section Lot # 122 Grave # 2 Body #14 Cause of Death: Coronary Occlusion Residence: 1930, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania5 Children of SYLVESTER HORNE and BETTY MCKINNION are: i. JACK3 MCKINNION, Stepchild. 2. ii. ALVERTA ELESTINE HORNE, b. 30 May 1927, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; d. 16 Feb 1979, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. iii. LOTTIE HORNE. iv. MARY HORNE. v. SMUTHA HORNE. vi. GLADYS HORNE, m. WRIGHT. vii. PAUL MCKINNION6, b. 1917; d. May 1974, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States of America6. More About PAUL MCKINNION: Social Security Number: 167-16-80816 SSN issued: Pennsylvania6 Generation No. 2 2. ALVERTA ELESTINE3 HORNE (SYLVESTER2, UNKNOWN1)7,8 was born 30 May 1927 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and died 16 Feb 1979 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania9. She married (1) LEONARD DAVIS10. He was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and died in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. She married (2) THOMAS DEWANE BRADLEY11 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, son of WILLIAM BRADLEY and EDNA ?. He was born 18 May 1926 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania11, and died 08 Apr 1997 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States of America11. Notes for ALVERTA ELESTINE HORNE: Alverta was a registered nurse More About ALVERTA ELESTINE HORNE: Burial: 22 Feb 1979, Eden Cemetery, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania12 Cause of Death: Heart attack and Lung desease13 Occupation: The Institute of Pennsylvania Hospital as a RN14 Residence: 1930, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania15 More About THOMAS DEWANE BRADLEY: Residence: 1930, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania16 Social Security Number: 195-12-036717 SSN issued: Pennsylvania17 Children of ALVERTA HORNE and THOMAS BRADLEY are: 3. i. DEWANE4 BRADLEY, b. 08 Jan 1945, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; d. 21 Mar 1968, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. 4. ii. PATRICIA ANTONIA BRADLEY, b. 05 Apr 1947, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; d. 31 Dec 1971, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Generation No. 3 3. DEWANE4 BRADLEY (ALVERTA ELESTINE3 HORNE, SYLVESTER2, UNKNOWN1) was born 08 Jan 1945 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania18, and died 21 Mar 1968 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania19. She married MARVIN THOMAS COOPER 07 Mar 1964 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania20, son of JESSIE PARISH and MARY COOPER. He was born 04 Mar 1942 in Atlantic City, New Jersey. More About DEWANE BRADLEY: Burial: 27 Mar 1968, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania21 Cause of Death: Gun Shot Wound in the Back21 More About MARVIN THOMAS COOPER: Military service: ? Retirement: 30 Sep 1986, Retired From the Marine Corps at Cherry Point, NC Child of DEWANE BRADLEY and MARVIN COOPER is: 5. i. ANNA MARIE5 COOPER, b. 13 Oct 1964, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. 4. PATRICIA ANTONIA4 BRADLEY (ALVERTA ELESTINE3 HORNE, SYLVESTER2, UNKNOWN1) was born 05 Apr 1947 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and died 31 Dec 1971 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. She married (1) NORMAN LEANDRA STOVALL22, son of EDNA. He was born 05 Apr 1926 in Salisbury, North Carolina22, and died 08 Oct 1992 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. She married (2) LEO GLADMON. More About PATRICIA ANTONIA BRADLEY: Cause of Death: Brain Tumor More About NORMAN LEANDRA STOVALL: Cause of Death: Stroke, diabetes and respiratory failure. Social Security Number: 244-14-082522 SSN issued: North Carolina22 Endnotes 1. 1930 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census. [database on-line] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2002. Indexed by Ancestry.com from microfilmed schedules of the 1930 U.S. Federal Decennial Census.1930 United States Federal Census. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2001. Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration. 1930 Federal Population Census. T626, 2,667 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, ED 416, roll 2112, page 3A, image 162.0. 2. Eden Cemetery Records. 3. 1930 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census. [database on-line] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2002. Indexed by Ancestry.com from microfilmed schedules of the 1930 U.S. Federal Decennial Census.1930 United States Federal Census. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2001. Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration. 1930 Federal Population Census. T626, 2,667 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, ED 416, roll 2112, page 3A, image 162.0. 4. Eden Cemetery Records. 5. 1930 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census. [database on-line] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2002. Indexed by Ancestry.com from microfilmed schedules of the 1930 U.S. Federal Decennial Census.1930 United States Federal Census. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2001. Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration. 1930 Federal Population Census. T626, 2,667 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, ED 416, roll 2112, page 3A, image 162.0. 6. Social Security Death Index, Social Security Administration. Social Security Death Index, Master File. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc, 2005. 7. Social Security Application. 8. 1930 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census. [database on-line] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2002. Indexed by Ancestry.com from microfilmed schedules of the 1930 U.S. Federal Decennial Census.1930 United States Federal Census. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2001. Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration. 1930 Federal Population Census. T626, 2,667 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, ED 416, roll 2112, page 3A, image 162.0. 9. Birth Certificate. 10. From Alverta Davis's Death certificate 11. Social Security Death Index. 12. Birth Certificate. 13. Death Certificate. 14. Derrick Gladmon. 15. 1930 United States Federal Census, T626, 2,667 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, ED 416, roll 2112, page 3A, image 162.0. 16. 1930 United States Federal Census. 17. Social Security Death Index. 18. Eden Cemetery Records. 19. Philadelphia Inquirer, March 21, 1968. 20. Philadelphia Marriage Application 21. Death Certificate. 22. Social Security Death Index.

Hi, I am looking for marriage information on Charley Cooper born 8 October 1884 in Oxford and Matty D. Cooper born 1886 and I am unsure of the maiden name. Any information that anywould could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Anna Adams

Hi, I haven't been able to find anything on the following cooper family, we are having a Cooper family reunion in Aug 2006 and I have been tasked to find information on this family. I found them in the 1930 census. Can anyone tell me if they are alive or if they died when. Beddie Cooper born in Oxford, this is all I have on her. Charley Cooper born 8 Oct 1884 in Oxford. Died 24 May 1973 in Warrington, Warren Co, NC. Gamaliel Cooper born 1928 in Oxford, NC. James Cooper born 1880 in Walnut Grove, Granville, NC Lee Cooper born 1878 in Walnut Grove, Granville, NC Marguerite Cooper born 1913 in Oxford, Granville, NC Matty D. Cooper born 1886 in Oxford, Granville, NC died in Warrington, Warren co, NC (I think) Roy Cooper born 1914 in Oxford, Granville, NC Russell Cooper born in Oxford, Granville, NC or Walnut Grove, Granville, NC Ada Virginia Cooper (Maiden name Day) born 1857 in either Oxford, Granville NC or Walnut Grove, Granville, NC Thanks for any help that you can give to me. Anna Adams AnnasGeneology@nc.rr.com

Looking for a James Tomlinson or Thomason, who might have lived at Granville co NC in the 1850s. Not much is known about him. James Ross Tomlinson or Thomason b. abt 1810, NC m. may have been married more than once, but the only wife I have is Mary Sunderland, whom he married in 1853 at Carroll co IN d. Between 1870-1881, probably Dixon co NE James and his family traveled by wagon train to homestead at NE either just prior to 1870 or in the same year. Some of his children: Edward, George, James, Albert Ross, Mamie, Lou. Thanks for any assistance! Cathy Bell cjbell@inebraska.com

Here is what ancestry.com has Database: North Carolina Marriage Collection, 1741-2000 Name: John Glasgow Spouse: Peggy McClanahan Marriage Date: 4 Jan 1816 Marriage County: Granville Marriage State: North Carolina Source Vendor: County Court Records - FHL # 0019009 Source: Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT There was no image available. Mimi Kelly Oneal Glasgow wrote: >My GGgrandfather, John Glasgow married Elizabeth Reece in Grainger Co., TN in 1818 > >Some researchers are saying that MY John Glasgow is the same as John Cooper Glasgow of Granville Co, NC however I have pretty good proof that they are two different people. Is there anyone in NC either in Granville Co or near the NC Archive center that could or would check to see if they can find the marriage license between John Cooper Glasgow and Peggy McClannahan (McClanahan) on January 4, 1816. If I can get a copy of that doument it would prove for certain that MY John Glasgow is or is not John Cooper Glasgow. > >This is what one researcher is saying: >JOHN COOPER GLASGOW, b. Dec 03, 1794; d. 1835, Old Long Creek Cemetery, >Stewart Co., TN; m. (1) PEGGY MCCLANNAHAN, Jan 04, 1816, Granville, NC; m. >(2) ELIZABETH REECE, 1818, Grainger Co., TN > >If someone finds this document contact me off-net and I will send you my mailing address or you can send it as an attachment to an e-mail or fax it to me at 423-928-7912. I am willing to reimburse you for all costs. > >Neal Glasgow > > >==== NCGRANVI Mailing List ==== >Granville County List Administrator >Debra McCann - chenae@ap.net > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > -- Frogs Mimi Kelly

My GGgrandfather, John Glasgow married Elizabeth Reece in Grainger Co., TN in 1818 Some researchers are saying that MY John Glasgow is the same as John Cooper Glasgow of Granville Co, NC however I have pretty good proof that they are two different people. Is there anyone in NC either in Granville Co or near the NC Archive center that could or would check to see if they can find the marriage license between John Cooper Glasgow and Peggy McClannahan (McClanahan) on January 4, 1816. If I can get a copy of that doument it would prove for certain that MY John Glasgow is or is not John Cooper Glasgow. This is what one researcher is saying: JOHN COOPER GLASGOW, b. Dec 03, 1794; d. 1835, Old Long Creek Cemetery, Stewart Co., TN; m. (1) PEGGY MCCLANNAHAN, Jan 04, 1816, Granville, NC; m. (2) ELIZABETH REECE, 1818, Grainger Co., TN If someone finds this document contact me off-net and I will send you my mailing address or you can send it as an attachment to an e-mail or fax it to me at 423-928-7912. I am willing to reimburse you for all costs. Neal Glasgow

Jim Hecht wrote, Another reason for migration after the Revolution was that the Continental Army paid off their soldiers with land vouchers rather than cash--certificates which could be redeemed for a specified amount of public land (number of acres varied with the rank of the veteran), and these public lands were typically located west of the Appalachians in TN and KY. After receiving a certificate, veterans could either sell the certificate or move to western lands and settle there. Many sold out, which is how the Watauga company, headed by the Henderson family in Granville County, wound up owning a huge tract in KY, enough that they sent a young explorer, Daniel Boone, to survey and prepare the land for settlers. Comment: Jim is quite right. However, I am going to correct some of his comments. Virginia also granted land in Ohio and Indiana, according to Lloyd D. Bockstruck's book, info below. North Carolina awarded land in Tennessee, or tried to. This subject of *bounty land* for Revolutionary soldiers (and presumably sailors, et al) is covered in the 21 page or so Introduction of Lloyd DeWitt Bockstruck's wonderful book entitled Revolutionary War Bound Land Grants Awarded by State Governments (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1996). He breaks down each of the colonies (I think) and explains their policies for awarding land to participants in the American Revolution. This book is well worthwhile trying to find in your genealogical library. If possible, try to interlibrary loan it, especially if you have Revolutionary War ancestors. About the Watauga Company I cannot speak with any authority. However, I do believe it and Boonesborough (in present-day Madison Co., Kentucky) are covered in a long-ago book published by the Filson Club [now called Filson Historical Society] by an author named George W. Ranck about Boonesborough. Boonesborough was being established before the American Revolution broke out. In fact, one of my direct ancestors of Granville Co., NC wrote his will in December 1775 as he lay dying. He was a first cousin of Colonel Richard Henderson, and his older brother was Henderson's agent. All the partners were from North Carolina, but many with Virginia roots. (No Harrises that I recall!) Henderson's plans to set up Transylvania Colony (13th colony, some say a kingdom or a proprietary) were interrupted by the outbreak of the Revolution in Massachusetts. There were many court fights about this land speculation by Henderson. I believe the upshot was something like this. Virginia awarded so many acres in what is now Kentucky, principally Henderson Co., KY and the counties formed from Henderson Co. North Carolina awarded part of Tennessee to Henderson. Henderson is credited with establishing Nashville which he called Nashborough, if memory serves. Do a google.com search for Transylvania Colony. There is a short paragraph on Encarta, and probably more which I did not bother with. In a series of books called Calendar of Virginia state papers and other manuscripts (also at University libraries, but some volumes filmed by the Family History Center in Salt Lake City) are some court records of the hearings about awarding Henderson the land which Virginia had claimed. Some interesting depositions by people who participated in Henderson's scheme(s). There is an old paperback book about some of the earliest days in Kentucky by the white man, still being published I believe. It is called The Frontiersmen by Allan W. Eckert, and much of it is based on the Draper Manuscripts, held by the Historical Society of Wisconsin. The Eckert book is still for sale on Amazon and also on e-bay. The North Carolina State Papers and the North Carolina Colonial Papers (large volumes, generally in University libraries) have some of Henderson's correspondence replicated. Most interesting. I beleive these have been microfiched by the FHL in Salt Lake City. E.W.Wallace

Anthony, You can always check if messages have been submitted by going to the Rootsweb Mailing Lists and clicking onto the State, then County link, where all of the messages have been archived for each list. Here is the link for the Granville List: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/NCGRANVI/ Deloris Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Davis" <Anthony@janthonydavis.com> To: <NCGRANVI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: [NCGRANVI] Testing --- no mail received > No mail has been received in quite a while --- testing to be sure the > links > still work > > > > ==== NCGRANVI Mailing List ==== > Granville County List Administrator > Debra McCann - chenae@ap.net > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

No mail has been received in quite a while --- testing to be sure the links still work

Kathy, Here is a link to the North Carolina State Archives that gives the instructions & costs of ordering documents from them: http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/archives/mail.htm Although the following doesn't exactly have the districts, it does have 1895 maps of every state, with the Counties broken down with some city info. There is also a page showing various statistics on some of the cities & towns in the state: http://www.livgenmi.com/1895/NC/ Here are a few links to County sites with Township/District information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granville_County,_North_Carolina http://www.linkpendium.com/genealogy/USA/NC/Granville/ Deloris ----- Original Message ----- From: "KStewart" <kls6@earthlink.net> To: <NCGRANVI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: [NCGRANVI] granville co districts and wills--stewart > Hi All, > > I'm hoping I can stay on board again and begin my STEWART research once > again. > > I am in desperate need of a districts map for the granville area and some > surrounding counties. DOes anyone know where I can get such?? Thanks alot. > > Also, what is the cost for ordering a will at the archives? > > Kathy Stewart > > Don't pass judgement on someone until you have lived exactly as they have, > been through exactly what they have or hurt exactly as they have. If you > have and when you do, empathize, learn, grow and love. KLUS > > May you have enough happiness to make you sweet; enough trials to make you > strong, enough sorrow to keep you human and enough hope to make you happy. > > The happiest of people don't necessarily have the best of everything, they > just > make the most of everything that comes their way. > > Live, Laugh, Love > > > > ==== NCGRANVI Mailing List ==== > Granville County List Administrator > Debra McCann - chenae@ap.net > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi All, I'm hoping I can stay on board again and begin my STEWART research once again. I am in desperate need of a districts map for the granville area and some surrounding counties. DOes anyone know where I can get such?? Thanks alot. Also, what is the cost for ordering a will at the archives? Kathy Stewart Don't pass judgement on someone until you have lived exactly as they have, been through exactly what they have or hurt exactly as they have. If you have and when you do, empathize, learn, grow and love. KLUS May you have enough happiness to make you sweet; enough trials to make you strong, enough sorrow to keep you human and enough hope to make you happy. The happiest of people don't necessarily have the best of everything, they just make the most of everything that comes their way. Live, Laugh, Love

Before sending off money to some unproven outfit to rescue damaged repositories, I highly recommend you contact your State Genealogical Society (see the Redbook, which may be a reference book at your public library) to see what coordinated and well-planned efforts are being made to help these repositories hurt in the Katrina hurricane damage area. In a speech at the Federation of Genealolgical Societies now meeting in Salt Lake City, Utah, there was information that archivists and librarians, banding together in an umbrella organization, are making plans to help. However, at this time, efforts by helpers from all over the country are being stymied by the massive lack of coordination in this damaged area of our country. I believe this announcement at FGS conference was made by the representative of the National Archives who is attending this conference. As one lady from a charitable organization reminded many of us this crisis is going to last MANY months. Please do NOT rush to send your money to an untried organization. Those of you who have worked in volunteer organizations know how disorganized things can get without adequate planning and designated man and woman power!!! (Been there, done that.) Consider your donations carefully--get some coordination. E.W.Wallace a concerned genealogist (but a careful one--most of the time)

Please take the time to read this. Some of us are sitting back thinking about how we can help. As genealogists we can be of help to those who have lost their family history and research. No, we can't replace those irreplaceable heirlooms and keepsakes, but you might be able to help someone rebuild their family history and replace their many years of research. I have joined. This is strictly a voluntary thing. Just delete if you're not interested. Take care and have a good day! Diane Pollard Keiser -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [NCJohnston] : A letter to other states Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:41:24 -0600 Resent-From: NCJOHNST-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 14:39:16 -0400 From: HopeStanley <HopeStanley@mchsi.com> To: NCJOHNST-L@rootsweb.com References: <010901c5b310$32a526e0$7fb65a42@yourxu5v9frokn> Subject: A letter to other states > > We all know what a chore it is to find answers, locate records. Have you > thought about all of the genealogists in the path of Katrina that fled > their homes, leaving their > computers and their data behind? Not today, but someday, they will be in > a position to return to their genealogy, and have no idea where to start. > A group has just been started to help. Please join! > > Homepage: http://groups.google.com/group/Katrina-Genealogists > Group email: Katrina-Genealogists@googlegroups.com > Description: Genealogists banding together to recreate data for those who > lost their records in Katrina. Collecting surnames, names of genealogists > who lost data, those who want to help. Initial startup will be spent > brainstorming what we can do. > > We know many of you are not in the south as you research. There is no > shelter near you that you can volunteer for. Perhaps this will be a way to > help. If you have ideas, or are just available to do something once we > formulate tasks, please join us. (At this point we are the blind leading > the blind and need any ideas we can get.) Please pass the word. > > Katrina Genealogists > Katrina-Genealogists@googlegroups.com ==== NCJOHNST Mailing List ==== Johnston County, North Carolina NCGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncjohnst/index.htm ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

In my volunteer job at an LDS Family History Center, I try to help people tackle some of their genealogical problems. Some are willing students, and others *know it all*--you know the type. As some past pyschologists have called them, *the yes, but* types!!! When I mentioned to a person trying to do southern US research of early date that deeds often helped establish relationships, she asked in horror, Why should I want to read deeds? Before I could explain, she was off to her *yes, but* research!!! Anyway, here is a deed in a *foreign* Southside Virginia county [the English call such persons *strays*] which refers to persons who later were in at least two North Carolina counties, and, in one instance, a South Carolina district, and I cannot even speak to the other two persons (Irby and Tunstall named in the deed, as they are not in my scope of research). Halifax Co., VA (DB 7-320): "Nov 1, 1768 from Thomas Tunstall of H[alifax] to William Nunn of King and Queen Co. 90 pds. about 400 acres which is the upper part of a greater tract of land patented Apr 10, 1751 to William Irby and by him sold to Daniel Williams who devised the same to be equally divided between his 2 sons James Williams & Joseph Williams by the conveyance from William Irby to Daniel Williams & by his will & the same was conveyed by Joseph Williams to Thomas Tunstall by deed recorded in H[alifax]. Signed - Thomas Tunstall. Wit - none. Recorded 19 Jan 1769 after a commission examined Ruth, the wife of Thomas Tunstall." (TLC, HALIFAX COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEEDS 1767-1772, p. 25) Beginning at the beginning, here is some information on some of the person named in the above deed: William Nunn - Possibly he migrated to Orange Co. NC. At least we should consider him a suspect [a candidate] 1755 Tax list of Orange Co.: William Nunn wt. [with] Sarah, Hanna, Joss & Jean, Negroes 1-4 (William Perry Johnson, "1755 Tax List of Orange County, North Carolina," THE NORTH CAROLINIAN ..., P. 103) At Orange Co., NC court, Aug 1764: "William Nunn, Sheriff, complains about the Prison." Probably a younger William Nunn was later in Caswell Co. NC, where he married Ede Simpson, date of marriage unknown. (She was one of the numerous daughters of Richard Simpson, Sr. of Caswell Co., formerly of Orange Co. in the 1760s and his wife Mary Kincheloe, both formerly of Fairfax Co., VA.. We can verify the Simpson couple's origins in Fairfax Co. by a deed made by Richard's father to the married couple at an earlier date.) Daniel Williams (wife Ursley [unknown surname which bothers a LOT of descendants who demand she be given a surname]). Daniel died testate in 1759 in Granville Co., NC after acquring by patent and by deed much land in Southside Virginia (he previously was of Hanover Co.) Daniel died quite a wealthy man, judging by his will. (widow Ursley married Joseph Reid in Granville Co. two years later; their whereabouts after their marriage are unknown to me. Some surmise they went to South Carolina.) Two sons of Daniel Williams named above, whose will indicates five sons and at least two daughters:: Joseph Wiliams - in Granville Co. he married ca 1766 Sarah Lanier, dau. of Thomas Lanier, in Granville Co., NC. He died after the birth of his daughter Mary, and Sarah Lanier ca 1774 married his cousin Robert Williams of Pittsylvania Co., VA. Joseph's will was recorded in Granville Co., NC late 1773. James Williams - he is the noted Col. James Wiliams who was killed at the Battle of King's Mountain. His wife is believed to be Mary Wallace, but again, there seems to be no documented proof of her maiden name. His will and probate were filed in Caswell Co., NC where he had taken refuge from South Carolina. We suspect that these two patents refer to the same James Williams: Virginia Land Office cards at Virginia State Library give the following information on a James Williams, Lunenburg Co. patents: Williams, James, 16 Aug 1756, 400 A On the head branches of Sneeds Creek adjoining Brown (Pat Bk 33, p. 44) Williams, James, 16 Aug 1756, 810 A beg. at the mouth of Hounds Creek (Pat Bk 33, p. 46) Daniel Williams, the father of these later men, had three other sons: Henry Williams of Caswell Co., NC, where he died testate. Henry had also owned land in Southside Virginia, but that is to be posted in another message--one of these days. Here are some brief notes on Henry: Henry Williams died testate in Caswell Co., NC before January court 1786, when his will was proved. It had been written 12 April 1785. In the will (abstracted) he named his wife Elizabeth; his sons, Daniel, Joseph (land purchased from Henslee), Nathan (land purchased of Thomas Hart), Henry (McVier's old tract). He named his daughters: Nancy Rice, Elizabeth Williams, Susannah Rice, Ursley Duke Peoples, Salley Brookes, Jane Williams; graanddaughter Mary Slade; son-in-law William Rice. His executors were to be his wife and son-in-law, Wm. Rice, and his son Daniel when he arrives at 21. Wit: John Henslee, Wm. Brown, Thomas Rice. (Adapted from Katharine Kerr Kendall, CASWELL COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA WILL BOOKS, 1777-1814 [N.p., Privately published, 1979], p. 17) John Williams S.D. [son of Daniel] This suffix S.D. was noted in some of the colonial Granville Co., NC tax records and apparently followed him wherever he resided. He resided in District 96 South Carolina, which was later called Laurens Co. A correspondent sent this information, taken it is said from Mecklenburg Co., VA marriage records. p. 118: "16 Mar 1759. WILLIAMS, John and Mary Atwood. James Atwood consents. Wit. to consent, Dan Williams, Junr. and George Forest. Sur. Richard Atwood. p. W-1" Daniel Williams the younger. This refers to his marriage in Granville Co. NC. He is believed [not yet proved by me] that he migrated to South Carolina. Marriage in Granville Co., NC: Daniel Williams & Ann Henderson, 31 Jul 1765, Samuel Henderson, Joseph Williams, bm. Charles Bruce, wit. (Brent H. Holcomb, MARRIAGES OF GRANVILLE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA 1753-1868 [Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., p. 354) Genealogical information is where you find it--nearly anywhere a document has been made!!! Submitted by E.W.Wallace