5 Oct 1825 Chocowinity BCNC 17 Jun 1897 Washington BCNC Mary Elizabeth MAYO Shelby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Batterton" <joejoe@centurytel.net> To: <NCEDGECO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [NCEDGECO] Mayo and BRIGHT Families In searching the John Bourk descendants I found that a John Bourk #3 was born Abt. 1657 in Middlesex County, Virginia, and died Feb 5, 1698/99 in Virginia. He married 4 times. His 3rd wife was Sara Mayo m. between 1686 - 1689. He and Sara had twins Mayo Burk and Sarah Burk born May 22, 1690. Mayo appears to have died young. That is about all I know. Once in a great while I run across the Mayo name or place. That's not much but it is all I know. I notice you didn't say what year Mary Elizabeth Mayo was born. Peggy Batterton Crockersmith wrote: > > The first direct MAYO I have is Mary Elizabeth MAYO who married Elias Godley > BRIGHT Sr. Beaufort Co NC. > > We have bunches on the BRIGHTs and almost nothing on the MAYOs. > > I know there has to be a connection to Claude Sr and Jr MAYO of Rocky Mount > NC because they look too much like her picture. <G> > > Shelby > http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Choir/3843/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gayle Lovelady Coberly" <coberly@apex2000.net> > To: <NCEDGECO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 5:01 PM > Subject: [NCEDGECO] Mayo and Allied Families > > I would like to corresponded with anyone researching the Mayo families > and any of the allied families in Edgecombe, Martin, Pitt, and Beaufort > Co. NC. Thanks, Gayle > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.264 / Virus Database: 136 - Release Date: 7/2/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.264 / Virus Database: 136 - Release Date: 7/2/01

In searching the John Bourk descendants I found that a John Bourk #3 was born Abt. 1657 in Middlesex County, Virginia, and died Feb 5, 1698/99 in Virginia. He married 4 times. His 3rd wife was Sara Mayo m. between 1686 - 1689. He and Sara had twins Mayo Burk and Sarah Burk born May 22, 1690. Mayo appears to have died young. That is about all I know. Once in a great while I run across the Mayo name or place. That's not much but it is all I know. I notice you didn't say what year Mary Elizabeth Mayo was born. Peggy Batterton Crockersmith wrote: > > The first direct MAYO I have is Mary Elizabeth MAYO who married Elias Godley > BRIGHT Sr. Beaufort Co NC. > > We have bunches on the BRIGHTs and almost nothing on the MAYOs. > > I know there has to be a connection to Claude Sr and Jr MAYO of Rocky Mount > NC because they look too much like her picture. <G> > > Shelby > http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Choir/3843/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gayle Lovelady Coberly" <coberly@apex2000.net> > To: <NCEDGECO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 5:01 PM > Subject: [NCEDGECO] Mayo and Allied Families > > I would like to corresponded with anyone researching the Mayo families > and any of the allied families in Edgecombe, Martin, Pitt, and Beaufort > Co. NC. Thanks, Gayle > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.264 / Virus Database: 136 - Release Date: 7/2/01

Do you have a birth date for Mary Elizabeth Mayo? Gayle > > > Subject: Re: [NCEDGECO] Mayo and BRIGHT Families > Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:31:11 -0400 > From: Crockersmith <crockersmith@lexcominc.net> > To: NCEDGECO-L@rootsweb.com > > The first direct MAYO I have is Mary Elizabeth MAYO who married Elias Godley > BRIGHT Sr. Beaufort Co NC. > > We have bunches on the BRIGHTs and almost nothing on the MAYOs. > > I know there has to be a connection to Claude Sr and Jr MAYO of Rocky Mount > NC because they look too much like her picture. <G> > > Shelby > http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Choir/3843/

Ivan, Here's what "North Carolina Research: Genealogy and Local History" (2nd ed.) says about it: "Although the original schedules were ultimately intended for federal authorities, enumerators in some census years prepared duplicate copies for state and county use. Especially for the four censuses of 1850, 1860, 1870, and 1880, the researcher may find federal, state, and county copies of the schedules...these copies frequently differ from each other in small particulars, and occasionally in major ones. Researchers should examine all copies that survive and make close comparisons; it cannot be assumed that the federal copy was the first, most accurate one written." So yes, it is good to compare. Since the author of the above paragraph states the researcher *may* find other schedules, it appears that whether or not they still exist might depend on several factors. I only have the federal schedules and so that's what I could give Audrey. The above book states that the N.C. State Archives has bound duplicate originals of most of the state's 1850-1880 schedules. As for county level ones, whether or not they exist would probably vary from county to county and depend on things like courthouse fires etc. Hope this helps, Traci _____________________________________________________________________ From: "BartowRich" <BartowRich@email.msn.com> Traci, I read somewhere the census takers had a field copy they worked with each day that had all the information on it. They would then make a copy for the census bureau, a copy for the state and a copy for the county. Often the copy that had only initals was not the original for the census bureau but the only one surviving which could have been the local copy that was posted in each county. Have you ever seen any thing to verify this? Ivan Richardsonm _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Traci, I read somewhere the census takers had a field copy they worked with each day that had all the information on it. They would then make a copy for the census bureau, a copy for the state and a copy for the county. Often the copy that had only initals was not the original for the census bureau but the only one surviving which could have been the local copy that was posted in each county. Have you ever seen any thing to verify this? Ivan Richardsonm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Traci Thompson" <tracithompson@hotmail.com> To: <NCEDGECO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:06 PM Subject: [NCEDGECO] Re: George Savage > Audrey, > > It seems I have looked this one up for you before to no avail, but I looked > again and this time noticed something I didn't the first time: > > Jno. H. Savage 40 M (no occupation, birthplace listed as Virginia) > C. 35 F (born in N.C., illiterate) > W.H. 13 M > A. 11 F > J.S. 5 M > G. 3 M > N.D. 1 F > > Isn't it maddening that the census taker chose to list everyone only by > initials?? The G. age 3 is close enough to be your George. And, all the > children's birth places are listed as N.C. > > Hope this helps, > > Traci the Librarian > ____________________________________________________________________ > > From: AaronGFett@aol.com > To: NCEDGECO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCEDGECO] Re: 1850 census lookup-Savage > > Hi Friends, I'm hoping someone can help me with a look up in the 1850 > census of > Edgecomb of my g g grandfather George Acrile Savage. He was born 1846 to > James > H. Savage and Kate Barfield how married in Tarboro. I'm hoping to find out > who > George's siblings were and where his father James was born. I have > conflicting > info at the moment...one record says NC and another says VA. Thanks so very > much > for your help!! > Audrey > Orlando, FL > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >

Commie, I checked the 1860 Edgecombe census but did not find a Josiah Walston nor any Walston that had a child that fit. Of course, they could have been elsewhere at the time. Traci the Librarian ____________________________________________________________________ From: "Commie Dowdy" <commieanne@alltel.net> To: NCEDGECO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCEDGECO] Look up Walston Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 01:15:06 -0400 Will someone do a look up? I am look for Martha Alice Walston b. 9-26-1859, d. 12-12-1915. Our family bible names Josiah Walston as her father. Can this be confirmed. Thank you Commie _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

The first direct MAYO I have is Mary Elizabeth MAYO who married Elias Godley BRIGHT Sr. Beaufort Co NC. We have bunches on the BRIGHTs and almost nothing on the MAYOs. I know there has to be a connection to Claude Sr and Jr MAYO of Rocky Mount NC because they look too much like her picture. <G> Shelby http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Choir/3843/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gayle Lovelady Coberly" <coberly@apex2000.net> To: <NCEDGECO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 5:01 PM Subject: [NCEDGECO] Mayo and Allied Families I would like to corresponded with anyone researching the Mayo families and any of the allied families in Edgecombe, Martin, Pitt, and Beaufort Co. NC. Thanks, Gayle --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.264 / Virus Database: 136 - Release Date: 7/2/01

I would like to corresponded with anyone researching the Mayo families and any of the allied families in Edgecombe, Martin, Pitt, and Beaufort Co. NC. Thanks, Gayle

Will someone do a look up? I am look for Martha Alice Walston b. 9-26-1859, d. 12-12-1915. Our family bible names Josiah Walston as her father. Can this be confirmed. Thank you Commie

Traci, Thanks so very much for your help!!! Audrey

Robert and Audrey, The source of the information I found for Audrey was Stephen E. Bradley Jr.'s abstracted transcription of the Edgecombe County 1850 Federal census. Bradley's introduction states that the population schedule was transcribed from the National Archives microfilm. It appears that the census taker in some cases wrote out whole names and in others used initials or abbreviations, probably for reasons entirely his own. Traci the Librarian From: "Robert G. Lewis" <rlew6897@rollinginternet.com> Hi, Audrey: The copy of the census from which what you saw was in all probibility NOT the original. Remember that in 1850 there were neither copy machines nor carbon paper. Every entry on each of the copies (3?) that had to be made had to be written by the census taker. The original was the one with which he traveled around the county and on that one, you will most likely find complete names. By the time the census taker got home and worked by candle light or by a kerosene lamp or lantern, he was too tired to really care and would take the shortcut of using initials. Now that you know where to look, see if you can get a view of the original copy which is probably in the national archives. I expect that you will find complete names on that one. Hope this helps explain the use of initials. _____________________________________________________________________ Audrey, Jno was most often used as an abbreviation for both John and Jonathan, but you never know what could have happened. Sorry, I looked at every Savage family in the Edgecombe 1860 census and did not see anything remotely fitting. I was using Stephen Bradley's transcription again. Traci From: AaronGFett@aol.com Traci, It didn't sink in until just now, wasn't Jno an abbreviation for John? I was always told that my George's father's name was James H. Savage (says that on George's death cert too). If it's not too much trouble, could I bother you to check the 1860 census for me for my George A. Savage and family...he'd have been about 14 by then. Thanks so very much once again. Audrey Orlando, FL ____________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

FYI - I found this North Carolina genealogy book on another site ... Press Release: A new book on the NC area has been published by Jeffrey Williams. Lore and Legacy: A History of the Cheek, Sale and Sparks Families is a 430 page photobook covering 400 years of English - North Carolina history, from the early 1600s to present. Noteables include: US Senator Robert Byrd (born as Cornelius Calvin Sale Jr), Joel Owsley Cheek (founder of Maxwell House Coffee), Sir John Cheke (tutor to King Edward VI), Elizabeth Sparks and Daniel Boone. Approximately 160 images, including family crests. The book, bookjacket and additional info may be viewed at the Pilgrim Press website: <A HREF="http://www.thepilgrimpresss.homestead.com/homestead.html">The Pilgrim Press</A> or http://www.thepilgrimpresss.homestead.com/homestead.html (notice the 3 "s" in "press"). The book has over 5,000 indexed names, many of which are prominent in the North Carolina area (the author's family is from Jonesville, NC), including: Bauguess, Benge, Blackburn, Blackwell, Brooks, Chambers, Cheek, Cook, Creekmore, Crenshaw, Curry, Elmore, Graves, Gray, Gregory, Harris, Henderson, Hemric, Jarvis, Logan, Martin, Mock, Money, Pardue, Parks, Royal, Sale, Seagraves, Sparks, Stimson, Swaim, Triplett, Ussery, Wagoner, Webb. - Jack Lewis, Editor-in-Chief, The Pilgrim Press

Would like to know if the increase would cut down the turn around time from the current 6 months - Jim Chandler

In a message dated Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:09:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Traci Thompson" <tracithompson@hotmail.com> writes: << Audrey, It seems I have looked this one up for you before to no avail, but I looked again and this time noticed something I didn't the first time: Jno. H. Savage 40 M (no occupation, birthplace listed as Virginia) C. 35 F (born in N.C., illiterate) W.H. 13 M A. 11 F J.S. 5 M G. 3 M N.D. 1 F Isn't it maddening that the census taker chose to list everyone only by initials?? The G. age 3 is close enough to be your George. And, all the children's birth places are listed as N.C. Hope this helps, Traci the Librarian Traci, It didn't sink in until just now, wasn't Jno an abbreviation for John? I was always told that my George's father's name was James H. Savage (says that on George's death cert too). If it's not too much trouble, could I bother you to check the 1860 census for me for my George A. Savage and family...he'd have been about 14 by then. Thanks so very much once again. Audrey Orlando, FL ____________________________________________________________________ From: AaronGFett@aol.com To: NCEDGECO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCEDGECO] Re: 1850 census lookup-Savage Hi Friends, I'm hoping someone can help me with a look up in the 1850 census of Edgecomb of my g g grandfather George Acrile Savage. He was born 1846 to James H. Savage and Kate Barfield how married in Tarboro. I'm hoping to find out who George's siblings were and where his father James was born. I have conflicting info at the moment...one record says NC and another says VA. Thanks so very much for your help!! Audrey Orlando, FL _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >>

Hi, Audrey: The copy of the census from which what you saw was in all probibility NOT the original. Remember that in 1850 there were neither copy machines nor carbon paper. Every entry on each of the copies (3?) that had to be made had to be written by the census taker. The original was the one with which he traveled around the county and on that one, you will most likely find complete names. By the time the census taker got home and worked by candle light or by a kerosene lamp or lantern, he was too tired to really care and would take the shortcut of using initials. Now that you know where to look, see if you can get a view of the original copy which is probably in the national archives. I expect that you will find complete names on that one. Hope this helps explain the use of initials. Later, - - - AaronGFett@aol.com wrote: > > Traci, Thanks so much. You're awesome! This is my George and yes, it is maddening that the census taker would chose to list people by initials. I can't imagine why he'd do that..... > Thanks once again! > Audrey -- ROB Robert G. Lewis EMAIL: rlew6897@rollinginternet.com Searching: LEWIS; ALFORD; FINCH; HOGG; WINBORNE; VOLIVA and others Member: The National Genealogical Society; The Alford American Family Association; The Tar River Connections Genealogical Society

Whoops, looks like you missed a day or two of messages. Yep, going up effective JULY 1. So next week if you go back to the site it will probably show the new increase in price !

Are individual records requests for SS apps. $27 now? Is this up from $7? Just yesterday, I printed a request letter from rootsweb that still listed $7. Is this wrong? -----Original Message----- From: SMartin583@aol.com [mailto:SMartin583@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:05 PM To: NCEDGECO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCEDGECO] Increased SS copy prices The general concensus on the genealogy lists is that $27 is too high for a copy of the Social Security Card application for our ancestors. But I have to file a dissenting opinion: These records are not there for genealogists; we just got lucky. Because of the increased "popularity" of these records, the time and manpower necessary to respond to all of our requests for copies of the records has "skyrocketed" too. So we've made our bed, and we'll just have to pay for the housekeeping now.

Audrey, It seems I have looked this one up for you before to no avail, but I looked again and this time noticed something I didn't the first time: Jno. H. Savage 40 M (no occupation, birthplace listed as Virginia) C. 35 F (born in N.C., illiterate) W.H. 13 M A. 11 F J.S. 5 M G. 3 M N.D. 1 F Isn't it maddening that the census taker chose to list everyone only by initials?? The G. age 3 is close enough to be your George. And, all the children's birth places are listed as N.C. Hope this helps, Traci the Librarian ____________________________________________________________________ From: AaronGFett@aol.com To: NCEDGECO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCEDGECO] Re: 1850 census lookup-Savage Hi Friends, I'm hoping someone can help me with a look up in the 1850 census of Edgecomb of my g g grandfather George Acrile Savage. He was born 1846 to James H. Savage and Kate Barfield how married in Tarboro. I'm hoping to find out who George's siblings were and where his father James was born. I have conflicting info at the moment...one record says NC and another says VA. Thanks so very much for your help!! Audrey Orlando, FL _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

The general concensus on the genealogy lists is that $27 is too high for a copy of the Social Security Card application for our ancestors. But I have to file a dissenting opinion: These records are not there for genealogists; we just got lucky. Because of the increased "popularity" of these records, the time and manpower necessary to respond to all of our requests for copies of the records has "skyrocketed" too. So we've made our bed, and we'll just have to pay for the housekeeping now.

Traci, Thanks so much. You're awesome! This is my George and yes, it is maddening that the census taker would chose to list people by initials. I can't imagine why he'd do that..... Thanks once again! Audrey