Traci, Thank you so very much!!! Audrey Fetterhoff

Audrey, Checked the 1900 for Simon and didn't find him. But it doesn't mean he's not there; I'm using an electronic database, which may have errors, and the census taker may have butchered his name in some other way. (but I tried Simon AND Sion.) Traci "Local history is not just local history but human history, world history. The information that you write down, the letters and maps you keep, these are the drippings of the human spirit and distillings of a man doing his job." --Paul Green _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Ray, I'm awfully sorry, but you already have the information I could have given you (ie, wills and estates records.) I checked my Halifax will book to see if any other Taylor mentioned a son named William, but I didn't find any. I'm afraid with a name as common as William Taylor, and in that early period, it will be very hard to establish parentage. I also don't think someone would have found Thomas' grave, although I won't say it's impossible. But marked graves from the early 1800s are extremely rare around here (at least in this county.) Again, sorry I can't be of more help. Traci the Librarian >"Ray" <tnemelcy@wk.net> The below information is what I have in my file. I >and >several other descendents are trying to find the parentage of >Thomas Teagle (Teackle, etc.) and his father William Taylor b >about 1707. Audrey, I think I've found a definite possibility for you. Didn't come up with a Simon Lewis on the 1880, but then I tried just searching for S. Lewis and came up with this: Enfield, Halifax County, N.C. Sallie Lewis Widow 62 S.M. Lewis Son 33 Then I went to the marriages and found this: Lewis, John R. and Sally Butts, 23 Dec. 1845; Thomas M. Carlisle, bondsman. Then I went to the 1860 (don't have 1870, sorry) and found this: Lewis, J.R. 41 Mechanic personal estate: $5,947 Sarah 44 Seamstress Sion 14 Margarett 11 John E. 7 Sarah E. 5 There's lots of circumstantial evidence here: Sally is a nickname for Sarah, the dates and ages work out for Simon to have a birthdate of 1846/47, the place is right, and the census taker probably just left the "m" out of his name in 1860. I'll look now for him in 1900 and get back to you. Traci >AaronGFett@aol.com >HI Traci, Do you have access to census indexes or is that indices >for the >Halifax County census' ? If so, I'd sure appreciate the >index info for >1860 and 1870 for a Simon M Lewis. I don't yet know >who his parents were. >I can't seem to find him on 1880 or 1900 but >according to family, he was >born in Halifax co about 1857 in Enfield. >Audrey _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Traci, Can anyone access the new site that you mentioned for Karmella? Marilyn

Hello All, Got this on another list and it is a really neat site!! http://personal.pitnet.net/primarysources/#16 The American Colonist's Library A TREASURY OF PRIMARY DOCUMENTS Primary Source Documents Pertaining to Early American History An invaluable collection of historical works which contributed to the formation of American politics, culture, and ideals Hope it helps some out there, Audrey Orlando ,FL

Traci wrote: > Karmella, I'd be happy to put a link to your page on > the library/society > webpage too, if you like. ---Thanks Traci! Yes, that would be wonderful. Victoria wrote: > Karmella, > > It would be a privilege to link to your Edgecombe > pages. I'd also like > to link to your main pages so that everyone can see > the full scope of > your work, including your plantations database and > how to document > and submit slave data. What a beautiful web site, > both in content and > presentation. Well done! ---Thank you! :) Yes, you can add a link to the main page, and an additional directly to the Edgecombe section if you'd like. The Edgcombe section is buried within my personal genealogy section. ---Karmella __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

I am interested in the family of moses Moses O'neal of Edgecomb co NC who eventually moved to Marshall Co. Tn...I am looking for primary sources such as baptism record, marriage record, census. thank you. gloria ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

List: I am looking for information on a James DANIEL (b. about 1744) and a Hannah ROBINSON, daughter of William ROBINSON and Mary SMITHWICK of Northampton County, NC. I believe this James is a son of Capt. Robert Lanier DANIEL, Esq. and Mary SWAIN of Martin County, NC. I believe this James also had a son, Robert C. DANIEL RS-NC (about 1765-before 1830) who married a Penelope Ann LANE (1773-1846), daughter of John LANE and Mary "Polly" SHEPPARD of Halifax County, NC who later lived in Duplin County, NC. This Penelope DANIEL drew land in the 1827 Georgia Land Lottery as a widow then living in Warren County, GA. . This DANIEL family floated generally around Tyrrell, Halifax, Edgecomb, Wake, Martin and Duplin County, NC in the pre-1800 time frame. We know this Robert and Penelope migrated to Keysville, Burke County, GA in 1812, according to the 1846 obit of Penelope DANIEL, as published in the Southern Christian Advocate (ME Publication) This family was big-time Methodist and her first cousin, Caroline L:ANE married Rev. David LOWREY, who founded the first Methodist Church in GA (Richmond County, GA) This James DANIEL was the grandson of Thomas DANIEL (1686-1749) and Elizabeth LANIER (1698-1752) of Tyrrell County, NC. I am great-grandson of Robert William(s) DANIEL, Esq. (1810-1865) of Bethany (now Wadley), Jefferson County, GA. Any information is appreciated. John R. Clarke For some of the best from the outdoors visit www.outdoorwriter.com or www.online-outdoors.com This message is also virus free

HI Traci, Do you have access to census indexes or is that indices for the Halifax County census' ? If so, I'd sure appreciate the index info for 1860 and 1870 for a Simon M Lewis. I don't yet know who his parents were. I can't seem to find him on 1880 or 1900 but according to family, he was born in Halifax co about 1857 in Enfield. I did find him on the 1910 census: Lewis, Simon M head age 53, married 29 years b. NC both parents born NC Dora V, wife, 53 born NC both parents born NC Benjamin ? son, 25 Sarah M, dtr, 22 Margaret dtr, 20 Junie V, dtr, 19 Joseph M, son, 16 Harry G, son, 12 Thanks so much for any help. Audrey

The below information is what I have in my file. I and several other descendents are trying to find the parentage of Thomas Teagle (Teackle, etc.) and his father William Taylor b about 1707. Here is the will as I have it: Halifax County North Carolina Will Book 1,Will # 53, page 72 WILLIAM TAYLOR 25 Mar. 1762 June Ct. 1762 Last Will and Testament of William Taylor Died 1762 North Carolina} In the name of God Amen. I William Taylor of the county of Halifax in the Province of foresaid being sick of body but of perfect and sound mind and memory, thanks be to God, and calling to mind the mortality of Mankind and knowing it is appointed for all Men once to die, do make ordain constitute and appoint this my Last Will and Testament in a Manner and form following. To wit, First I give and bequeath the Plantation whereon I now live with two hundred acres of land which I bought of Robert Butler to my son Thomas Teackle Taylor his heirs and assigns forever, only reserving that my wife Mary Taylor is to have the use of the said land During her Natural life or Widowhood. I likewise give unto my sd. son Thomas Teackle Taylor his heirs or assigns one hundred and fifty acres of land in Dupland County whereon Abraham Jacobs now lives and all my stock of Cattle that is now on the sd. land and in of the said Abraham Jacobs. Item, I give and Bequeath to my son Joshua Taylor his heirs and assigns forever Two hundred acres of Land joining my Mannor Plantation on the lower side of a branch which said land I bought of John Ballard, I likewise give to my son Joshua Taylor two hundred acres of land in the Iseland including the Place whereon my Ferry is kept which said land I bought of the sd. John Ballard which said land and Ferry I give to my sd. son Joshua Taylor his heirs and assigns forever. Item, I give and bequeath unto my son John Taylor his heirs and assigns forever the Plantation whereon John Mourning now lives with two hundred acres there unto belonging which said land I bought of John Beland, I give and bequeath to my son Thomas Teackle Taylor his heirs and assigns two hundred acres of land in the Iselands being to include the upper old field and being the land I bought of Francis (H)opson. Item, I give and bequeath to my son John Taylor his heirs and assigns three hundred acres of land in the Iselands Beginning at the Mouth of the (G)ut above the Ferry and lying between the lands above mentioned to my son Thomas Teakle Taylor and my son Joshua Taylor I likewise give to my sd. son John Taylor his heirs and assigns one hundred fifty acres of land in the Iseland I bought of William Brown. Item, I give and bequeath to my son Thomas Teakle Taylor his heirs and assigns for ever the following negroes (to wit) Ceasar, Cudyo, Nan and her child named Boatswain and a negro boy named Will, which said negroes and their increase I give to my said son Thomas Teakle Taylor and his heirs and assigns. Item, I give and bequeath to my son Joshua Taylor his heirs and assigns one negro boy named Jacob, Item, I give and bequeath to my son John Taylor his heirs and assigns one negro boy named Jeffrey. Item, I give and bequeath to my daughter Elizabeth Taylor and her heirs or assigns one negro girl named Patt and her increase and one negro boy named George. Item, I give and bequeath to my daughter Ester Taylor her heirs and assigns forever one negro girl named Sed and her increase. Item, I give and bequeath to my daughter Catharine one negro child named Hince and her increase to her heirs and assigns forever. Item, I give and bequeath to my daughter Mary Taylor her heirs and assigns twenty five pounds sterling money of Great Britain. Item, I lend the use of all my negros that is within before mentioned or given legasies to my Wife Mary Taylor for and during her natural life or widowhood, only that my sd. Wife shall raise Maintain and educated my children Suttable sic to their estates, and after the Decease or Marriage of my sd. Wife I give and bequeath the sd. negroes that is herein lent to my said Wife and their increase be equally divided between my six youngest children, Elizabeth Taylor, Joshua Taylor, John Taylor, Ester Taylor, Catherine Taylor and Mary Taylor and their heirs or assigns for ever share and share alike. Item, I give and bequeath to my son Thomas Teackle Taylor his heirs and assigns forever the following articles (to wit) one Black walnut desk, one mahogandy table, one large looking glass that stands in the great room, half a dozen new leather chairs, one feather bed and furniture and one grey mare called his and one sorril mare. Item, I give and bequeath to my Wife Mary Taylor and her heirs my large white mare. Item, I give and bequeath my young sorril colt to my daughter Elizabeth Taylor and her heirs. Item, I lend unto my Wife Mary Taylor for and during her natural life or marriage the use of all my stock of horses, cattle, hoggs, sheep, household furniture and all my other estate that is not herein before mentioned given in legacies and after the decease or marriage of my said Wife I give and bequeath the said stock of horses, cattle, hoggs, sheep and household furniture to be equally divided between my six youngest children Eliza Taylor, Joshua Taylor, John Taylor, Ester Taylor, Catharine Taylor and Mary Taylor and their heirs or assigns share and share alike. Lastly I nominate constitute and appoint my Wife Mary Taylor, my son Thomas Teackle Taylor, Wm John Davis, and William Williams Exors to this my Last Will and Testament hereby revoking and disannuling all others heretofore by me made. In witness shereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal the 25 day of March 1762. William Taylor (signed) and Seal Signed Sealed Published and declared by the sd. William Taylor as his last will and testament in the presence of us John Price, William Raddan, John Hooks Halifax __ June Inferior Court of Pleas __ 1762. This Will ----remainer of document unreadable ---- One thing proving who his wife was might give us a clue ... There was another Thomas Teackle Taylor with different birth date and was connected to the Teackles but they ended up in Rhode Island. Our William and Thomas Teackle were in Edgecombe County...must have been some land division between VA and NC... anyway just wonding if this is enough information to maybe find out something? Thomas Teagle (Teackle, etc.) Taylor b about 1734 and died October 1, 1826 was married to Celia Little b 1743 and died about 1826. (Apparently someone found a grave site for Thomas Teagle to have the exact date. I have not found anyone who has posted any information on where he was buried). I have the following Children: Elizabeth James Mary Rebecca Sarah (Sally) Allen Allen 1764 Mathias 1766 Abraham 1779 Joshua 1780 Stephen 1787 (This is my Great Great Granfather.) William 1798 John 1765 Teagle Taylor, inventory taken by Stephen Taylor (my GGGrandfather), exr., Oct 26, 1826, May Ct. 1827. Account of sale held the same day. William, Allen, William, Jr., Jesse (Son of Stephen, and is my GGrandfather (Jesse Little Taylor), Stephen My GGGrandfather) , Rebeccah, Henry, and William Taylor, Sr ( My GGGGrandfather???). were buyers, May Ct. 1827. Account of hire of negroes held Oct 26, 1826, May Ct. 1827. Additional inventory taken by the exr. consisted of one account due may 23, 1828, May Ct. 1828. Account current with the exr. and audit and settlement of account Oct 11, 1828, Nov. Ct. 1828. Estate Records of Edgecombe County, North Carolina, 1820-1850, Vol. II, Joseph Watson. ray taylor tnemelcy@wk.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Traci Thompson" <tracithompson@hotmail.com> To: <NCEDGECO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 2:05 PM Subject: [NCEDGECO] Re: various > Thank you, y'all. *blush* This might be a good time to remind everyone that > I do lookups in indexed sources pertaining to Edgecombe and surrounding > counties. Contact me if you want help! We care about genealogy and history > here...I get paid to do this!

Thank you, y'all. *blush* This might be a good time to remind everyone that I do lookups in indexed sources pertaining to Edgecombe and surrounding counties. Contact me if you want help! We care about genealogy and history here...I get paid to do this! >I think what I am trying to say is "Don't bite the hand that >feeds you." >Betty Reason >President of the Edgecombe Co. Genealogical Society... >Traci Thompson and Jo Webb have been extremely helpful with our >research... Very well said, Betty, so rather than trying to add anything >may I >just say that you have spoken for me too, Ron Bullock Karmella, I'd be happy to put a link to your page on the library/society webpage too, if you like. >From : Karmella Haynes <kh_art@yahoo.com> I would like to share a page >that I am currently >working on at my web site. It is dedicated to piecing >together the genealogies of African ancestors >documented as property of Edgecombe Co. free white >residents. Actually, the topics discussed lately have *everything* to do with genealogical research, specifically concerning African American families, and specifically in Edgecombe county (what this list is for.) I think this is the perfect forum to discuss such. Just my opinion. >"John R. Clarke" <johnrclarke_ga@msn.com> For the past week all I have >seen on the Edgecombe mailing lists has >had little, if anything, to do >with genealogical research Might I >be so bold as to suggest the topics >covered in these recent messages >are best handled in private because a >mailing list is not the place to >discuss these types of topics. Traci the Librarian _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

For the past week all I have seen on the Edgecomb mailing lists has had little, if anything, to do with genealogical research Might I be so bold as to suggest the topics covered in these recent messages are best handled in private because a mailing list is not the place to discuss these types of topics. John R. Clarke For some of the best from the outdoors visit www.outdoorwriter.com or www.online-outdoors.com This message is also virus free ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karmella Haynes" <kh_art@yahoo.com> To: <NCEDGECO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:46 PM Subject: [NCEDGECO] My Slave Research in Edgecombe Co. > Greetings List, > > I am going to rant. > > I saw a statement that pretty much annoyed me. > > I get annoyed whenever a fellow Afro-American gets > offended by the very mention of any differences > between us and white people. I don't mean to sound > harsh, but, by virtue of our heritage, experiences, > culture, etc. we ARE different in many ways. Its like > the slightest suggestion that Black people have had an > experience different from white people is an insult. > > To say that our people did not have any interest in > genealogy before is not an insult. It may be a > generalization, but it is not an insult. Why would > that be so insulting, anyway? Maybe it is, for the > most part, true. My mother even told me herself that > we "selectively forgot" much of our family history > because of the pain and embarrassment of slavery. > Prior to the 60's, to "move ahead" meant to FORGET > your past (direct quote from my mother). Also, the > popular opinion has been (even within my lifetime) > that Black genealogy was near impossible because of > broken family ties. That opinion itself is inaccurate, > but it did negatively influence our "interest" in > genealogy. > > Yes, Roots was a milestone. There may be a few > exceptions, but you've got to admit that Elder Haley > incited a tremendous wave of interest into our > genealogy. > > Maybe the statement is "offensive" because it's > "embarrassing" that we didn't do something that many > white people were doing (genealogy)? This logic really > really annoys me. > > This post was not meant as a defense for anyone, nor > an attack on anyone. I'm done. > > ---Karmella > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com > > >

I applaud Traci and her in depth response to questions. She answers with open heart and open mind, as well as with her knowledge and experience. And I cheer for Betty Reason and the others in her association. You have my gratitude. Mayme Porter -----Original Message----- From: NCEDGECO-D-request@rootsweb.com <NCEDGECO-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: NCEDGECO-D@rootsweb.com <NCEDGECO-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 6:14 PM Subject: NCEDGECO-D Digest V01 #108

Karmella, It would be a privilege to link to your Edgecombe pages. I'd also like to link to your main pages so that everyone can see the full scope of your work, including your plantations database and how to document and submit slave data. What a beautiful web site, both in content and presentation. Well done! Victoria At 10:29 AM 10/23/01 -0700, Karmella Haynes wrote: >For the Webmaster of the Edgecombe Co. Genweb site, do >you think that my Edgcombe Co. pages could get a link >to your site? http://www.rootsweb.com/~afamerpl/personal/NCedgecombe/main.html

Yes we would publish both your list and the cemetery. I am very proud that so many of our member have been helpful in finding what you were looking for. That is what we are here for. Betty Reason ECGS

Greetings List, I am going to rant. I saw a statement that pretty much annoyed me. I get annoyed whenever a fellow Afro-American gets offended by the very mention of any differences between us and white people. I don't mean to sound harsh, but, by virtue of our heritage, experiences, culture, etc. we ARE different in many ways. Its like the slightest suggestion that Black people have had an experience different from white people is an insult. To say that our people did not have any interest in genealogy before is not an insult. It may be a generalization, but it is not an insult. Why would that be so insulting, anyway? Maybe it is, for the most part, true. My mother even told me herself that we "selectively forgot" much of our family history because of the pain and embarrassment of slavery. Prior to the 60's, to "move ahead" meant to FORGET your past (direct quote from my mother). Also, the popular opinion has been (even within my lifetime) that Black genealogy was near impossible because of broken family ties. That opinion itself is inaccurate, but it did negatively influence our "interest" in genealogy. Yes, Roots was a milestone. There may be a few exceptions, but you've got to admit that Elder Haley incited a tremendous wave of interest into our genealogy. Maybe the statement is "offensive" because it's "embarrassing" that we didn't do something that many white people were doing (genealogy)? This logic really really annoys me. This post was not meant as a defense for anyone, nor an attack on anyone. I'm done. ---Karmella __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

Greetings List, I would like to share a page that I am currently working on at my web site. It is dedicated to piecing together the genealogies of African ancestors documented as property of Edgecombe Co. free white residents. http://www.rootsweb.com/~afamerpl/personal/NCedgecombe/main.html Althought the central focus is the various Knight families, several surnames are included (those connected by marriage. For the Webmaster of the Edgecombe Co. Genweb site, do you think that my Edgcombe Co. pages could get a link to your site? Thanks, ---Karmella Haynes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

Perhaps, I should write an entire article about all of the white people who have helped the black Lancaster family discover their roots in Edgecombe County!! Would ECGS publish it along with the recent discovery and survey of the Old Dr. Mercer Farm Cemetery (located on what is now Ruth Womble Johnson property) near Temperance Hall crossroads? Keep up the good work. Just remember the ONLY people that have thwarted our research have been family members themselves; all of whom are black. Deborah Lancaster Boston, Massachusetts

Deborah, Dot, Frances, Alexander, Roy, and David: Thanks for understanding what I was saying. >From : Dal9573@aol.com >And, in many cases, I have found some black folks reluctant to talk >about >their pasts due to slavery, sharecropping (the new slavery for >many after >the Civil War) "family secrets", adultery, illegitimacy >and cases of >incest. >Deborah A. Lancaster >Boston, MA Deborah: I think your insight is very true! >From : JerryC490@aol.com I find your comment(s) highly offensive . . . >Jerald "Jerry" Chittenden >Portland, Oregon (USA) Why? I think you misread my posts. Read them again. It's simply fact that Williams and Griffin left black genealogy out of their books. If you must be offended, be offended at them and the views of their time. Traci the Librarian _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

In a message dated 10/21/01 4:13:42 PM, Rea11bak2gen@aol.com writes: <<..........Traci is a wonderful person who happens to be a librarian who tries to help the genealogist. She is one of our most helpful people in our society and never hesitates to help anyone who need her help both on the lists and in the library. She is very knowledgeable and has the books at her disposal as we at home do not. I think what I am trying to say is "Don't bite the hand that feeds you." Betty Reason President of the Edgecombe Co. Genealogical Society>> ============= Very well said, Betty, so rather than trying to add anything may I just say that you have spoken for me too, Ron Bullock