Diane, Over the past 20 years I have visited the Duplin Co. Historical Society, mainly when Dr. Herring was still alive. Several years before he died I had asked his permission to copy all the bible records and other records of interest that I could find in his vertical files and else where and submit copies to other Genealogy societies such as the Heritage Room in Kinston and to also put them on the county sites for others to use. He was always very enthusiastic about this and would always give me permission; as long as I did not use them for personal gain or publish the information. I have always given him and the Duplin Co. Historical Society credit for these records and a special thanks to him. He was a wonderful person. Since his death the society name has changed to the Duplin Co. Historical Foundation. Hopefully they will continue to give us permission and will follow his wonderful example. Sloan Mason -----Original Message----- From: ncduplin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncduplin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Diane Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:50 PM To: ncduplin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCDUPLIN] Leslie Brown Cards Fran, To be perfectly honest with you, one of Dallas Herring's biggest fears was that his information would be shut up and not open to researchers. One of his dreams was to put the Leslie Brown cards on the computer, and I am trying to follow his dream of putting them on the computer for everyone to utilize. The Foundation does stand to make quite a lot of money from us, not only from the Leslie Brown cards, but other materials that researchers will want copies of that are in the library. The cards are a stepping stone to give others information, which will lead to new information. Little do they know that this will make researchers more interested in visiting the library and obtaining copies of other information that is there. I think since it has been winter and there has been little to no interest in the library they are running scared. I believe that once the weather starts warming up and people start travelling they will see a renewed interest and flow of traffic through the library. I have spoken with some people that knew Dallas and Leslie very well and they say that I am doing what both of them would want to see done...sharing their research with others that might never have the chance to go to Duplin to see or get copies of their information. Thanks! Diane   http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncduplin/duplin.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgreene/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncjones/jones.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclenoir/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncnewhan/nh.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpasqu2/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpender/pender.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncperqu2/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncmil/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocivwar/mocwindex.html -------Original Message------- From: Fran Salyers Date: 2/26/2008 8:42:46 PM To: ncduplin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCDUPLIN] Leslie Brown Cards Diane, Thanks for the status report. I find it impossible to understand how Any organization based on an appreciation of history could withhold Permission to genealogists wishing to share information about family History. Maybe the foundation has observed this new groundswell of Interest and is considering the potential to profit from publishing The cards themselves. I hope that is not the case. I appreciate your work to make the content of the cards accessible to All. I have a feeling that accessibility to information was behind The development of the cards from the start. Fran in Kentucky On Feb 26, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Mike & Diane wrote: > Hi all, > > I have some bad news and some other news. > > For the bad news... > > I was contacted today by a member of the Duplin County Historical > Foundation > (not the same as the Duplin County Historical Society) saying that the > Leslie Brown Cards as well as the Dallas Herring Library are their > property. > I was told I have to ask the Board permission to post any of the > materials > from Dallas Herring's Library, and it would be to their discretion > to allow > me and us permission to use and/or post the materials. > > I have written this person back and asked for a list of the Board > members, > their positions on the board as well as their contact information, > so that I > can ask "permission". As soon as I receive the list I will contact > each > member and try to obtain their permission. > > Now for the other news... > > As for copyright or anything else dealing with the cards, or any other > materials that are or were gathered by any genealogist that is in the > library, as long as the materials were not published and were > gathered from > public information there is and can be NO copyright. I am going to > post a > copy of the laws that will cover us on the posting of the Leslie > Brown cards > so no worries, the ones on the site will not be taken off line. > > Someone will be going to the library tomorrow to try and make > copies of some > of the cards as the library is supposed to be open Wednesday thru > Thursday > from 2-5 PM. I will let you know if they were able to make copies > or not. > > If not, as soon as I get "permission" from the Board we will then > begin > making copies of them to be transcribed. > > For anyone that has sent or is sending a check to cover the costs > of copying > these cards, I will hold the checks, and if we are successful at > making > copies tomorrow they will go towards covering these costs. If not, > I will > hold the checks until we can get permission, or worse case > scenario, are > told no, that we can't make copies of the cards. If we are told > that we > cannot make copies I will send your checks back to you. > > Just wanted you to be aware of what is going on with this situation > and I > will keep you updated as I learn more. > > Thanks for your patience and understanding! > Diane > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncduplin/duplin.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgreene/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncjones/jones.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclenoir/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncnewhan/nh.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpasqu2/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpender/pender.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncperqu2/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncmil/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocivwar/mocwindex.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCDUPLIN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCDUPLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCDUPLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sloan, Dallas Herring was always free hearted with his information and would share it with any researcher that showed up on his doorstep. I am 100 % positive that he would back us up on posting the information to the site, especially since we have Leslie Brown's information on the main page linking to the family cards. I don't understand what the problem with the Foundation would be, except for the fear that they don't have the funds to keep the library up and running. I know of a couple of people that have volunteered to work (for free) at the library to open it up for researchers to come in and do research and unfortunately they were turned down, although the Foundation continues to say they don't have enough volunteers to keep the library open. I think they may be afraid that they won't be able to make money from the cards if we have them posted online, but like I said before these cards will lead researchers to go down new avenues for information and will in turn lead them to going to the library to make copies of other materials. I also hope they will stand behind Dallas Herring's dream of keeping the library open to everyone as well as sharing the information as he did. Diane   http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncduplin/duplin.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgreene/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncjones/jones.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclenoir/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncnewhan/nh.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpasqu2/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpender/pender.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncperqu2/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncmil/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocivwar/mocwindex.html -------Original Message------- From: sloan mason Date: 2/26/2008 9:47:00 PM To: ncduplin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCDUPLIN] Leslie Brown Cards Diane, Over the past 20 years I have visited the Duplin Co. Historical Society, mainly when Dr. Herring was still alive. Several years before he died I had asked his permission to copy all the bible records and other records of interest that I could find in his vertical files and else where and submit copies to other Genealogy societies such as the Heritage Room in Kinston and to also put them on the county sites for others to use. He was always very enthusiastic about this and would always give me permission; as long as I did not use them for personal gain or publish the information. I have always given him and the Duplin Co. Historical Society credit for these records and a special thanks to him. He was a wonderful person. Since his death the society name has changed to the Duplin Co. Historical Foundation. Hopefully they will continue to give us permission and will follow his wonderful example. Sloan Mason -----Original Message----- From: ncduplin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncduplin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Diane Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:50 PM To: ncduplin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCDUPLIN] Leslie Brown Cards Fran, To be perfectly honest with you, one of Dallas Herring's biggest fears was That his information would be shut up and not open to researchers. One of His dreams was to put the Leslie Brown cards on the computer, and I am Trying to follow his dream of putting them on the computer for everyone to Utilize. The Foundation does stand to make quite a lot of money from us, not only >From the Leslie Brown cards, but other materials that researchers will want Copies of that are in the library. The cards are a stepping stone to give others information, which will lead To new information. Little do they know that this will make researchers more Interested in visiting the library and obtaining copies of other information That is there. I think since it has been winter and there has been little to no interest in The library they are running scared. I believe that once the weather starts Warming up and people start travelling they will see a renewed interest and Flow of traffic through the library. I have spoken with some people that knew Dallas and Leslie very well and They say that I am doing what both of them would want to see done...sharing Their research with others that might never have the chance to go to Duplin To see or get copies of their information. Thanks! Diane   http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncduplin/duplin.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgreene/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncjones/jones.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclenoir/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncnewhan/nh.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpasqu2/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpender/pender.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncperqu2/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncmil/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocivwar/mocwindex.html -------Original Message------- From: Fran Salyers Date: 2/26/2008 8:42:46 PM To: ncduplin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCDUPLIN] Leslie Brown Cards Diane, Thanks for the status report. I find it impossible to understand how Any organization based on an appreciation of history could withhold Permission to genealogists wishing to share information about family History. Maybe the foundation has observed this new groundswell of Interest and is considering the potential to profit from publishing The cards themselves. I hope that is not the case. I appreciate your work to make the content of the cards accessible to All. I have a feeling that accessibility to information was behind The development of the cards from the start. Fran in Kentucky On Feb 26, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Mike & Diane wrote: > Hi all, > > I have some bad news and some other news. > > For the bad news... > > I was contacted today by a member of the Duplin County Historical > Foundation > (not the same as the Duplin County Historical Society) saying that the > Leslie Brown Cards as well as the Dallas Herring Library are their > property. > I was told I have to ask the Board permission to post any of the > materials > from Dallas Herring's Library, and it would be to their discretion > to allow > me and us permission to use and/or post the materials. > > I have written this person back and asked for a list of the Board > members, > their positions on the board as well as their contact information, > so that I > can ask "permission". As soon as I receive the list I will contact > each > member and try to obtain their permission. > > Now for the other news... > > As for copyright or anything else dealing with the cards, or any other > materials that are or were gathered by any genealogist that is in the > library, as long as the materials were not published and were > gathered from > public information there is and can be NO copyright. I am going to > post a > copy of the laws that will cover us on the posting of the Leslie > Brown cards > so no worries, the ones on the site will not be taken off line. > > Someone will be going to the library tomorrow to try and make > copies of some > of the cards as the library is supposed to be open Wednesday thru > Thursday > from 2-5 PM. I will let you know if they were able to make copies > or not. > > If not, as soon as I get "permission" from the Board we will then > begin > making copies of them to be transcribed. > > For anyone that has sent or is sending a check to cover the costs > of copying > these cards, I will hold the checks, and if we are successful at > making > copies tomorrow they will go towards covering these costs. If not, > I will > hold the checks until we can get permission, or worse case > scenario, are > told no, that we can't make copies of the cards. If we are told > that we > cannot make copies I will send your checks back to you. > > Just wanted you to be aware of what is going on with this situation > and I > will keep you updated as I learn more. > > Thanks for your patience and understanding! > Diane > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncduplin/duplin.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgreene/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncjones/jones.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nclenoir/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncnewhan/nh.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpasqu2/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpender/pender.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncperqu2/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncmil/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocivwar/mocwindex.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCDUPLIN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCDUPLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCDUPLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCDUPLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message