Carole, This one has taken awhile, and I think that I'm as disappointed as you will be. I can find absolutely nothing on this family other than Lutsen Stroud, Jr's Will that does not mention Lott and John as brothers, although it does list as executor a brother Arthur. The Will also lists Lutsen's children and none were named Lott or John. Dee -----Original Message----- From: Carole Vennerstrom <thevenners@willmar.com> To: Dee Thompson <d7777@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thursday, November 11, 1999 1:10 PM Subject: Look-up I am a descendent of John Stroud who first shows up in the Muhlenburg County KY census in 1820. He married Rachel Bidwell in Muhlenburg County in 1811. We think Lott Stroud came to KY about 1806, in time to appear in the 1810 census, and that John, who was 11 year younger may have moved with the family -- We are not certain of the relationship. Lott was married to Nancy Grimes, daughter of Sampson Grimes and Behsheba Winders of Duplin County. Lott was the holder of the grant for land on Cypress Creek. John was the executor of Lott's will [which I have].Lenoir/Duplin County. In the Duplin County Deed Book, Court Minutes of Pleas and Quarter Session: [[Abstract 1784-1787 by Leora H. McEachern] P 64, Date July 19, 1802. ".Lott Stroud applied as Constable and gave bond" P 70, Date Oct 18, 1802. "ordered Lott Stroud, Constable, to attend Grand Jury" P 76, Date Oct 19, "Allowed Lott Stroud 20 [money] for attending court as constable 2 days this term." Date Jan 1803, "Deed Richard Bradley to Uhria Sullivan for 145 acres, proved by Lott Stroud. Ordered registered." Book 6 1803-1805 P 2, "Applied Thomas Grimes, a constable in room of Lott Stroud. He gave bond." This would have been about the time that our Lott Stroud took his bride, Nancy Grimes and left for Kentucky, arriving 1806. Other information: From Kentucky Land Grants Chapter - Grants South of the Green River " A group of records entered from 1797 to 1806 known as Grants South of the Green River comprises twenty-nine books and includes 15,730 grants. These were also known as "Headright Grants," and were based upon an act of the Kentucky General Assembly of December 21, 1795, and are listed in Chapter IV. Prior to the establishment of Kentucky as a state, Virginia had reserved for her soldiers all the lands south of Green River. These were encompassed by a line .......... Until 1797 no one person could enter a survey within this great reservation except a soldier. When Kentucky as a sovereign state took charge of her vacant lands, new legislation opened up this great reservation south of the Green River to any person possessed of a family and over twenty-one years of age.. Such persons were entitled to not less than 100 acres or more than 200 acres, but must have been bona fide settlers on the land for one year before they came into actual possession." Lott is listed as grantee of 100 acres on Cypress Creek in Christian County, surveyed 12-3-1798 [when he was 20 years old]; and 8--1804, 100 acres on Cypress Creek in Muhlenberg County when he would have been 27 years old. According to what we have he didn't move to Kentucky with his family till 1806. It makes you wonder if the surveys could have been ordered by the older Lott Stroud who was the Revolutionary War Soldier. There were a Lott and John Stroud from Lenoir/Duplin who served in Major John Asche's 9th Carolina. That John is tracked by the DAR to Georgia where he died. Of Lott I have been able to find no further reference in Lenoir/Duplin. No pension applications or anything else, yet. He may have gone elsewhere, but I haven't tracked him down yet. Were Lott and John Stroud, Revolutionary War Soldiers, sons of Lutsen Stroud Sr. and brothers of Lutsen Stroud, Jr.? I found a reference to them in the Heritage of Lenoir County, 1981, as uncles of Isaac Stroud, Sr., [1791-1871]. The names of Lott and John first appear in Lenoir County during the Revolutionary War and then again in Muhlenberg County, KY in 1820. I have to believe there is a connection. I appreciate any help you can give. Is there any further documentation that would suggest who the father or fathers of the Lott and John who moved to KY were? Any land transactions near the time they would have left? I also haven't been able to find Nancy and Lott's marriage records. According to the info I have they had several children when they arrived in KY. As I have read on the list what you are doing, I am amazed by your generosity and the joy you take in what you are doing. Thank You Carole Vennerstrom Willmar, MN