HI All, I am going to try and put some of what i have down and send to you all that may have a connection to my Joel Hines , and maybe with us working together maybe we can make some sense of the info that we have , My Joel Hines b ca 1770 d ca 1846 Lenoir Co Nc m Pataince Gulley b1774 ?Johnston Co NC d before 1860. 1790 census males0/16 16&up all females Hines , Daniel 1 2 3 Duplin Co,NC "" , John 1 1 4 New Hanover Co.,NC. "" , Lewis 1 2 2 Duplin Co.,NC. "" , Solomon 2 0 2 Sampson Co.,NC. ( either none in Lenoir or Wayne Co., or i did not write them down) Gulley, Nathan 1 ?????????? Duplin Co., NC. "" , William 2 2 6 """"""""" (father of Patience Gulley). 1800 Lenoir Co.,NC page 309. Hines, Joel 2male under 10 1m 20/30. 1f under10 1 f 15/20(error??) "" , Isaac 1m 16/26 1m over 45 1 f over45. "" , Frederick 1 m 16/26 1 f 16/26. Isaac Hines b1795 d Oct 9,1845 m Barbary (Barbara) 5/21/1800 d4/18/1883. could this be the son of JOEL Hines??? (source for the above dates Isaac Hines cemetry, Trent Township ,Lenoir Co.,NC. I t seems like i have seen somewhere that Isaac Hines was the son of Daniel Sr,b ca1774 (bro of Joel???) so many questions, but the only way to get answers is to put out the questions. In the Isaac Hines cemetery there is a Charles C Hines 1/18/1840 d 7/23/1912 whose son was he ? In the Ben Hines near the above Cem there is a Ben Hines b 1827 d 1872 wife Hulda b1840 d 1903 whose son was he???. The reason i think that Isaac was the son of Joel is that in the 1850 Lenoir Co.,Census there was 3 Hines family close together , i did not copy the whole census ,than i did not know who i was looking for :-) Charlotte Hines was a dau of Isaac and Barbary Hines she m Daniel Sutton after she d in 1872 Daniel m her sister Chloe A Hines . 1850 #510 Hines, Barbary 49 " , Pearcy J 15 d2/19/1918 1860 in HH of Wm Sutton age 36. " , Benjamin 10 in 1860 hh of Edward Deaves (wife Julia age 18 Ben's). " , JOseph 8. (don't have James H he died Civil war 1870 census wife Sallie b7/21/1833 d/7/31/1900 and children Barbary E bca1852,Samuel I b5/3/1856 d2/17/1916 he later m Elmitta b1861 d 1934, Blany W male bca1959, Elbert 1861,Ira D b 7/5/1862 d 3/6/1931, later m Joshua A b 4/6/1863 d 2/5/1946. #512 Hines, Daniel bca1812 "" , Smithy A b ca 1830 "" , Benjamin F bca1849 "" , Patience age 77 wife of Joel Hines. 1860 Hines, Daniel 46 Smithy 29 Benjamin,11, Bright 8, Mary J 6, Thomas c 2, Martha A 1/12. i put this because someone has something on the LDS site on William Bright b 1849 of Lenoir Co. this shows he was not b untill after 1850. 1850 # 515 Hines, Joseph 40 , Pearcy 42 , Marion 4 m. , Delia 3 , Methula 2/12 m Hines , Ira B 20 m. That's enough for now. If anything fits or can be added onto Please let me know. Thank you Christine Grimes Thacker