I refer to the old story of the politicians taking down names from the tombstones to vote in the next day's election. One said" I can't read this one at all. I guess he won't vote." His fellow politician democratically replied "Keep trying. He has as much right to vote as anyone else in this cemetery." -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 2:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Fw: submissions for January 2009 newsletter Jim...surely ye jest...tee hee Bebe -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 1:35 pm Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Fw: submissions for January 2009 newsletter Mr Richmond; I don't know if I would go to a cemetery at night. I would worry about stepping in a hole and breaking a leg. This is an interesting thought reading tombstones by a lantern at night. I would go with my husband but I don't think I would be brave enough to go into a cemetery at night alone. Of course, you didn't say anything about being alone. The cemeteries I visit are out in countryside and not in city surrounding with street lights. But a very interesting suggestion. Judy Franklin, TN -------------- Original message from "Jim Richmond" <[email protected]>: -------------- > I used to use shaving cream and a dry wall spatula I always carried in my > car, and photograph that, but that is unapproved these days and I understand > why. Now I just use a stiff scrubbing brush (no wire) and water I spray from > a spray bottle available from building supply, hardware and garden supply > sources. An old window cleaner bottle with water in it would work just as > well. For the same reasons I don't use shaving cream, I don't use detergent > or window cleaner since this apparently seeps into the pores of the stone > and does unwanted damage. I don't think plain water will do any more damage > than rain. The wetness helps the lettering stand out so it is more legible. > The mirror sounds like a good idea too. Up in Madison County politicians > have found gravestones legible by lantern light shone around midnight. You > might try that. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Cleo > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Fw: submissions for January 2009 newsletter > > > > >> Since I see so many tombstones that are hard to read I would think it > >> might be nice to have someting in the newslatter as to how to clean them > > >> or how > >> to read what is inscribed when it is either worn or molded over. This may > > >> not > >> be a good idea but it does interest me and someone in the group may know > >> . > >> Thanks , Tommy Hunt > > >>> If you have anything that you want included in the January newsletter, > >>> please send it to me by noon this Friday, 12/19. > >>> -- Richard > > > Here's the "fount of all knowledge" on the subject of gravestone > preservation: http://www.gravestonestudies.org/. Prowl around on that site > > for much information! > > For many years, I have used with success plain table flour which, applied by > > the handful, and gently rubbed into the inscriptions, will bring out even > very worn inscriptions, so they may be successfully photographed. It is > organic, and avoids all the chemical objections of gravestone > preservationists. > > There are those who prefer chalk or some other powder, but I find if I run > out of my supply unexpectedly, I can replentish it at the corner store in > Orange County! > > Of course, NEVER use wire brushes, or metal devices of any kind to "clean" > the lichen off grave markers. And NEVER chemicals like purex or cholorox!! > > A new topic that has surfaced hereabouts, is the use of "divining rods" to > locate lost graves that have no stone markers. There's controversy about > it's effectiveness, but I've been convinced by a fellow from IL, who came to > > give a program on it at the Cheatham County [TN] Historical and Genealogical > > Association at Ashland City, TN last summer. It's an individual learning > experience, but seems to work! He located and platted the graves in a long > lost family cemetery behind a house within the city, that had been > encroached upon, and only some vinca minor remained in a tiny patch. Seems > there were perhaps a dozen gravesites there that had been lost. > > Cleo Hogan, JD > Clarksville, TN > Past Director & Life Member, NC Gen Soc > Founding Director, Old Buncombe Co. Gen Soc > Desc of Hogan, Holt, King, Lloyd, Craig, Blackwood of Orange > > > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Chicago area, perhaps....great story, Jim!! Cemeteries are pretty scary at twilight, too! My father, J.B. Johns, told me that he and one of his brothers were walking home after football practice at Durham High, pre the Depression. They hated that they had to passed a cemetery, They lived not far from Duke Hosp., Forest something. Anyway, they picked up speed a little bit, which turned into a very fast run after hearing oooooo coming right from that cemetery!!! Turned out it was their very own daddy, Ernest Johns, lying on the ground up against the wall!! I was just crazy about that man! At the beginning of the Depression the real estate business bit the dust and granddaddy bought a big old farm house in/at Schley...both grandparents had grown up on farms so knew all about providing...grandmother on the Eno and g'daddy in Wake co., Auburn area, later to the family Piper-Cox House on the Eno. The Phelps bought the farmhouse at Schley when my grandparents moved to West Durham. Bebe -----Original Message----- From: Jim Richmond <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 2:38 pm Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Fw: submissions for January 2009 newsletter I refer to the old story of the politicians taking down names from the tombstones to vote in the next day's election. One said" I can't read this one at all. I guess he won't vote." His fellow politician democratically replied "Keep trying. He has as much right to vote as anyone else in this cemetery." -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 2:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Fw: submissions for January 2009 newsletter Jim...surely ye jest...tee hee Bebe -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 1:35 pm Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Fw: submissions for January 2009 newsletter Mr Richmond; I don't know if I would go to a cemetery at night. I would worry about stepping in a hole and breaking a leg. This is an interesting thought reading tombstones by a lantern at night. I would go with my husband but I don't think I would be brave enough to go into a cemetery at night alone. Of course, you didn't say anything about being alone. The cemeteries I visit are out in countryside and not in city surrounding with street lights. But a very interesting suggestion. Judy Franklin, TN -------------- Original message from "Jim Richmond" <[email protected]>: -------------- > I used to use shaving cream and a dry wall spatula I always carried in my > car, and photograph that, but that is unapproved these days and I understand > why. Now I just use a stiff scrubbing brush (no wire) and water I spray from > a spray bottle available from building supply, hardware and garden supply > sources. An old window cle aner bottle with water in it would work just as > well. For the same reasons I don't use shaving cream, I don't use detergent > or window cleaner since this apparently seeps into the pores of the stone > and does unwanted damage. I don't think plain water will do any more damage > than rain. The wetness helps the lettering stand out so it is more legible. > The mirror sounds like a good idea too. Up in Madison County politicians > have found gravestones legible by lantern light shone around midnight. You > might try that. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Cleo > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Fw: submissions for January 2009 newsletter > > > > >> Since I see so many tombstones that are hard to read I would think it > >> might be nice to have someting in the newslatter as to how to clean them > > >> or how > >> to read what is inscribed when it is either worn or molded over. This may > > >> not > >> be a good idea but it does interest me and someone in the group may know > >> . > >> Thanks , Tommy Hunt > > >>> If you have anything that you want included in the January newsletter, > >>> please send it to me by noon this Friday, 12/19. > >>> -- Richard > > > Here's the "fount of all knowledge" on the subject of gravestone > preservation: http ://www.gravestonestudies.org/. Prowl around on that site > > for much information! > > For many years, I have used with success plain table flour which, applied by > > the handful, and gently rubbed into the inscriptions, will bring out even > very worn inscriptions, so they may be successfully photographed. It is > organic, and avoids all the chemical objections of gravestone > preservationists. > > There are those who prefer chalk or some other powder, but I find if I run > out of my supply unexpectedly, I can replentish it at the corner store in > Orange County! > > Of course, NEVER use wire brushes, or metal devices of any kind to "clean" > the lichen off grave markers. And NEVER chemicals like purex or cholorox!! > > A new topic that has surfaced hereabouts, is the use of "divining rods" to > locate lost graves that have no stone markers. There's controversy about > it's effectiveness, but I've been convinced by a fellow from IL, who came to > > give a program on it at the Cheatham County [TN] Historical and Genealogical > > Association at Ashland City, TN last summer. It's an individual learning > experience, but seems to work! He located and platted the graves in a long > lost family cemetery behind a house within the city, that had been > encroached upon, and only some vinca minor remained in a tiny patch. Seems > there were perhaps a dozen gravesites there that had been lost. > > Cleo Hogan, JD > Cla rksville, TN > Past Director & Life Member, NC Gen Soc > Founding Director, Old Buncombe Co. Gen Soc > Desc of Hogan, Holt, King, Lloyd, Craig, Blackwood of Orange > > > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.root sweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message