Thanks , good idea. Tommy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Dezern" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] D-OGS Meeting Reminder, Wednesday, 7 November 2007,"Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for MyMelungeonAncestors" > Tommy: > Next check for Claude's obit in the newspaper. > Tom Dezern > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tommy Hunt" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 8:37 AM > Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] D-OGS Meeting Reminder, Wednesday, 7 November > 2007,"Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for MyMelungeon > Ancestors" > > > > Paul , My name is Tommy Hunt and I live in Durham . I have just joined the > > Durham-Oragne Gen. Society. > > I need some help and ideas and do not know who to call on . The Problem; > > I have checked the Census Report for 1900 and found my father , Clarence > > Marvin Hunt , age 3. His older sister is also there age 7. There is also > > an > > older brother , age 10 named Claude. It clearly list him as a son of my > > Grandmother. I had never heard of Claude from my father or any of his > > brothers or sisters. My Grandmother never mentioned him . I checked the > > 1910 > > census , he was not there . He either died or left home . If he had left > > home I am sure someone would have mentioned him . I have checked the > > death > > records in Durham County and they only start at 1913. He is not there. I > > have checked the cemetaries , not there. Can anyone give me any other > > ideas > > as to how I can find what happened the this person. ? By the way , the > > cencus recorder at that time listed my Grandfather as R.M. Hunt not Robert > > Lee Hunt as it should have been listed. It also listed my Grandmother as > > Maggie instead of Margaret. I think he was in a big hurry to go to lunch. > > Many thanks , Tommy Hunt , [email protected] Original > > Message ----- > > From: "Paul Hollinghurst" <[email protected]> > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:24 PM > > Subject: [NCDOGS] D-OGS Meeting Reminder, Wednesday, 7 November 2007, > > "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for My Melungeon > > Ancestors" > > > > > >> Wednesday, 7 November 2007 -- D-OGS Meeting > >> > >> TOPIC: "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for My > > Melungeon > >> Ancestors" > >> > >> Speaker: Lisa Alther > >> > >> Lisa Alther, the author of several books, just published her first > >> non-fiction book "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for > > My > >> Melungeon Ancestors". Her story begins with her childhood and involved > >> travels through the South and to several countries in search of the truth > > of > >> her origins, including a DNA test to confirm her suspicions. Lisa finds > >> answers about her origins but many mysteries remain. > >> > >> An extremely provocative element in Alther's search revolves around > >> boogie-man stories from childhood about Melungeons. She heard they had > >> six > >> fingers on each hand. As a child, she didn't know if this was true, or if > >> Melungeons existed. Haunted by this mystery, she began trying to learn > >> all > >> she could and met a man in southwest Virginia who, indeed, was born with > > six > >> fingers on each hand who showed her scars from surgery to remove the > >> sixth > >> finger; he turned out to be a distant cousin of hers. > >> > >> As Alther says, "Conflicting origin of stories for the Melungeons abound. > >> They're said to be descended from Indians who mated with early Spanish > >> explorers, or from the survivors of Sir Walter Raleigh's Lost Colony on > >> Roanoke Island, or from Portuguese sailors shipwrecked on the Carolina > >> coast, or from African slaves who escaped into the mountains." Her > >> newly-discovered cousin thought they had Turkish ancestry. After > >> traveling > >> the South and Turkey and other parts of the world for extensive research, > >> Alther concludes she is Melungeon, especially after having a DNA test > > which > >> showed all her genetic make-up. > >> > >> D-OGS Meeting will be held on: > >> Wednesday evening, 7 November 2007 at 7 p.m. > >> Duke Homestead Visitor's Center > >> 2828 Duke Homestead Road, Durham 27705 > >> Phone: (919) 477-5498 > >> One-half mile from I-85 and Guess Rd (Exit 175) > >> Follow the brown historic site road signs. > >> > >> A Map! http://tinyurl.com/3mbuj > >> Another Map! http://tinyurl.com/4gnkm > >> ******************************** > >> > >> ************************* > >> Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > >> Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ************************* > > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks , I'll try that , it is a good idea. I am fairly new at this . Tommy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ava H. Nackman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] D-OGS Meeting Reminder, Wednesday, 7 November 2007,"Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for MyMelungeonAncestors" > Tommy, > You didn't mention this, so I'll ask. Did you check the 1910 census for a > roughly 20 year old Claude Hunt -- and not necessarily in the state where > the rest of the family was? And re the census listing, you haven't seen > anything yet. I spent about two hours last night trying to locate my great > grandparents and their family in the 1910 census. The last name was garbled > from Hartman to Hatman, my great grandfather's last name was shortened from > Newton to Newt, my great grandmother's was listed as Gannet instead of > Garnett, and several of the children's names were messed up in one way or > another as well. Each error was minor, but those minor errors, especially > in combination, can make finding them with a search engine really > challenging! I've learned to get VERY creative and persistent in trying > every possibility before concluding that they aren't listed. > Ava > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Tommy Hunt > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 8:38 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] D-OGS Meeting Reminder, Wednesday, 7 November > 2007,"Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for MyMelungeon > Ancestors" > > Paul , My name is Tommy Hunt and I live in Durham . I have just joined the > Durham-Oragne Gen. Society. > I need some help and ideas and do not know who to call on . The Problem; > I have checked the Census Report for 1900 and found my father , Clarence > Marvin Hunt , age 3. His older sister is also there age 7. There is also an > older brother , age 10 named Claude. It clearly list him as a son of my > Grandmother. I had never heard of Claude from my father or any of his > brothers or sisters. My Grandmother never mentioned him . I checked the 1910 > census , he was not there . He either died or left home . If he had left > home I am sure someone would have mentioned him . I have checked the death > records in Durham County and they only start at 1913. He is not there. I > have checked the cemetaries , not there. Can anyone give me any other ideas > as to how I can find what happened the this person. ? By the way , the > cencus recorder at that time listed my Grandfather as R.M. Hunt not Robert > Lee Hunt as it should have been listed. It also listed my Grandmother as > Maggie instead of Margaret. I think he was in a big hurry to go to lunch. > Many thanks , Tommy Hunt , [email protected] Original > Message ----- > From: "Paul Hollinghurst" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:24 PM > Subject: [NCDOGS] D-OGS Meeting Reminder, Wednesday, 7 November 2007, > "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for My Melungeon > Ancestors" > > > > Wednesday, 7 November 2007 -- D-OGS Meeting > > > > TOPIC: "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for My > Melungeon > > Ancestors" > > > > Speaker: Lisa Alther > > > > Lisa Alther, the author of several books, just published her first > > non-fiction book "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for > My > > Melungeon Ancestors". Her story begins with her childhood and involved > > travels through the South and to several countries in search of the truth > of > > her origins, including a DNA test to confirm her suspicions. Lisa finds > > answers about her origins but many mysteries remain. > > > > An extremely provocative element in Alther's search revolves around > > boogie-man stories from childhood about Melungeons. She heard they had six > > fingers on each hand. As a child, she didn't know if this was true, or if > > Melungeons existed. Haunted by this mystery, she began trying to learn all > > she could and met a man in southwest Virginia who, indeed, was born with > six > > fingers on each hand who showed her scars from surgery to remove the sixth > > finger; he turned out to be a distant cousin of hers. > > > > As Alther says, "Conflicting origin of stories for the Melungeons abound. > > They're said to be descended from Indians who mated with early Spanish > > explorers, or from the survivors of Sir Walter Raleigh's Lost Colony on > > Roanoke Island, or from Portuguese sailors shipwrecked on the Carolina > > coast, or from African slaves who escaped into the mountains." Her > > newly-discovered cousin thought they had Turkish ancestry. After traveling > > the South and Turkey and other parts of the world for extensive research, > > Alther concludes she is Melungeon, especially after having a DNA test > which > > showed all her genetic make-up. > > > > D-OGS Meeting will be held on: > > Wednesday evening, 7 November 2007 at 7 p.m. > > Duke Homestead Visitor's Center > > 2828 Duke Homestead Road, Durham 27705 > > Phone: (919) 477-5498 > > One-half mile from I-85 and Guess Rd (Exit 175) > > Follow the brown historic site road signs. > > > > A Map! http://tinyurl.com/3mbuj > > Another Map! http://tinyurl.com/4gnkm > > ******************************** > > > > ************************* > > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks , I will try to be there if I can change my schedule. Tommy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:59 AM Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Claude Hunt > Tommy, > > I suggest that you come to the next D-OGS meeting and take the opportunity to > see if anyone there has anything to add to solving your puzzle. There may be > some ideas that the local folks have, and perhaps they don't check their email > very often so haven't seen your query. > > Carol Boggs > > > ************************************** > See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Tommy, I suggest that you come to the next D-OGS meeting and take the opportunity to see if anyone there has anything to add to solving your puzzle. There may be some ideas that the local folks have, and perhaps they don't check their email very often so haven't seen your query. Carol Boggs ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

And, you might add, "SIG" = "Special Interest Group". Jeff Palmer - [email protected] * * * Quote of the Week: “We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.” -- Edward R. Murrow -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NCDOGS] D-OGS Computer SIG It occurred to me that some folks may not know what our CIG is all about... No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.23/1114 - Release Date: 11/6/2007 8:05 PM

It occurred to me that some folks may not know what our CIG is all about and may think it is not for them. A bit of history is in order. The CIG was launched in the late 1980s if I remember correctly, when computers were just entering the genealogy scene. It was intended for D-OGS members who were just becoming interested in finding out what computers had to offer for their research and documentation, and for those who were skilled in the use of computers for business and academic reasons to be able to share their skills and knowledge. That's still the organizing principle, but now we have broadened our efforts to include the latest interesting web sites, new methods and equipment, ways to make our searches more productive, and many more new topics every month. Even if you only use a computer occasionally, we may have something to interest you anyhow. The biggest benefit is the sharing that goes on at the meetings, and we invite all of you who are new to genealogy or computing join us at a meeting or two to see if we have something to offer you. And if you've got a lot of genealogical miles on you, we'd love to have your experience too, so plan to join us at the next meeting. Carol ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Tommy, You didn't mention this, so I'll ask. Did you check the 1910 census for a roughly 20 year old Claude Hunt -- and not necessarily in the state where the rest of the family was? And re the census listing, you haven't seen anything yet. I spent about two hours last night trying to locate my great grandparents and their family in the 1910 census. The last name was garbled from Hartman to Hatman, my great grandfather's last name was shortened from Newton to Newt, my great grandmother's was listed as Gannet instead of Garnett, and several of the children's names were messed up in one way or another as well. Each error was minor, but those minor errors, especially in combination, can make finding them with a search engine really challenging! I've learned to get VERY creative and persistent in trying every possibility before concluding that they aren't listed. Ava -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tommy Hunt Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 8:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] D-OGS Meeting Reminder, Wednesday, 7 November 2007,"Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for MyMelungeon Ancestors" Paul , My name is Tommy Hunt and I live in Durham . I have just joined the Durham-Oragne Gen. Society. I need some help and ideas and do not know who to call on . The Problem; I have checked the Census Report for 1900 and found my father , Clarence Marvin Hunt , age 3. His older sister is also there age 7. There is also an older brother , age 10 named Claude. It clearly list him as a son of my Grandmother. I had never heard of Claude from my father or any of his brothers or sisters. My Grandmother never mentioned him . I checked the 1910 census , he was not there . He either died or left home . If he had left home I am sure someone would have mentioned him . I have checked the death records in Durham County and they only start at 1913. He is not there. I have checked the cemetaries , not there. Can anyone give me any other ideas as to how I can find what happened the this person. ? By the way , the cencus recorder at that time listed my Grandfather as R.M. Hunt not Robert Lee Hunt as it should have been listed. It also listed my Grandmother as Maggie instead of Margaret. I think he was in a big hurry to go to lunch. Many thanks , Tommy Hunt , [email protected] Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hollinghurst" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:24 PM Subject: [NCDOGS] D-OGS Meeting Reminder, Wednesday, 7 November 2007, "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for My Melungeon Ancestors" > Wednesday, 7 November 2007 -- D-OGS Meeting > > TOPIC: "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for My Melungeon > Ancestors" > > Speaker: Lisa Alther > > Lisa Alther, the author of several books, just published her first > non-fiction book "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for My > Melungeon Ancestors". Her story begins with her childhood and involved > travels through the South and to several countries in search of the truth of > her origins, including a DNA test to confirm her suspicions. Lisa finds > answers about her origins but many mysteries remain. > > An extremely provocative element in Alther's search revolves around > boogie-man stories from childhood about Melungeons. She heard they had six > fingers on each hand. As a child, she didn't know if this was true, or if > Melungeons existed. Haunted by this mystery, she began trying to learn all > she could and met a man in southwest Virginia who, indeed, was born with six > fingers on each hand who showed her scars from surgery to remove the sixth > finger; he turned out to be a distant cousin of hers. > > As Alther says, "Conflicting origin of stories for the Melungeons abound. > They're said to be descended from Indians who mated with early Spanish > explorers, or from the survivors of Sir Walter Raleigh's Lost Colony on > Roanoke Island, or from Portuguese sailors shipwrecked on the Carolina > coast, or from African slaves who escaped into the mountains." Her > newly-discovered cousin thought they had Turkish ancestry. After traveling > the South and Turkey and other parts of the world for extensive research, > Alther concludes she is Melungeon, especially after having a DNA test which > showed all her genetic make-up. > > D-OGS Meeting will be held on: > Wednesday evening, 7 November 2007 at 7 p.m. > Duke Homestead Visitor's Center > 2828 Duke Homestead Road, Durham 27705 > Phone: (919) 477-5498 > One-half mile from I-85 and Guess Rd (Exit 175) > Follow the brown historic site road signs. > > A Map! http://tinyurl.com/3mbuj > Another Map! http://tinyurl.com/4gnkm > ******************************** > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tommy: Next check for Claude's obit in the newspaper. Tom Dezern ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tommy Hunt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] D-OGS Meeting Reminder, Wednesday, 7 November 2007,"Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for MyMelungeon Ancestors" > Paul , My name is Tommy Hunt and I live in Durham . I have just joined the > Durham-Oragne Gen. Society. > I need some help and ideas and do not know who to call on . The Problem; > I have checked the Census Report for 1900 and found my father , Clarence > Marvin Hunt , age 3. His older sister is also there age 7. There is also > an > older brother , age 10 named Claude. It clearly list him as a son of my > Grandmother. I had never heard of Claude from my father or any of his > brothers or sisters. My Grandmother never mentioned him . I checked the > 1910 > census , he was not there . He either died or left home . If he had left > home I am sure someone would have mentioned him . I have checked the > death > records in Durham County and they only start at 1913. He is not there. I > have checked the cemetaries , not there. Can anyone give me any other > ideas > as to how I can find what happened the this person. ? By the way , the > cencus recorder at that time listed my Grandfather as R.M. Hunt not Robert > Lee Hunt as it should have been listed. It also listed my Grandmother as > Maggie instead of Margaret. I think he was in a big hurry to go to lunch. > Many thanks , Tommy Hunt , [email protected] Original > Message ----- > From: "Paul Hollinghurst" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:24 PM > Subject: [NCDOGS] D-OGS Meeting Reminder, Wednesday, 7 November 2007, > "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for My Melungeon > Ancestors" > > >> Wednesday, 7 November 2007 -- D-OGS Meeting >> >> TOPIC: "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for My > Melungeon >> Ancestors" >> >> Speaker: Lisa Alther >> >> Lisa Alther, the author of several books, just published her first >> non-fiction book "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for > My >> Melungeon Ancestors". Her story begins with her childhood and involved >> travels through the South and to several countries in search of the truth > of >> her origins, including a DNA test to confirm her suspicions. Lisa finds >> answers about her origins but many mysteries remain. >> >> An extremely provocative element in Alther's search revolves around >> boogie-man stories from childhood about Melungeons. She heard they had >> six >> fingers on each hand. As a child, she didn't know if this was true, or if >> Melungeons existed. Haunted by this mystery, she began trying to learn >> all >> she could and met a man in southwest Virginia who, indeed, was born with > six >> fingers on each hand who showed her scars from surgery to remove the >> sixth >> finger; he turned out to be a distant cousin of hers. >> >> As Alther says, "Conflicting origin of stories for the Melungeons abound. >> They're said to be descended from Indians who mated with early Spanish >> explorers, or from the survivors of Sir Walter Raleigh's Lost Colony on >> Roanoke Island, or from Portuguese sailors shipwrecked on the Carolina >> coast, or from African slaves who escaped into the mountains." Her >> newly-discovered cousin thought they had Turkish ancestry. After >> traveling >> the South and Turkey and other parts of the world for extensive research, >> Alther concludes she is Melungeon, especially after having a DNA test > which >> showed all her genetic make-up. >> >> D-OGS Meeting will be held on: >> Wednesday evening, 7 November 2007 at 7 p.m. >> Duke Homestead Visitor's Center >> 2828 Duke Homestead Road, Durham 27705 >> Phone: (919) 477-5498 >> One-half mile from I-85 and Guess Rd (Exit 175) >> Follow the brown historic site road signs. >> >> A Map! http://tinyurl.com/3mbuj >> Another Map! http://tinyurl.com/4gnkm >> ******************************** >> >> ************************* >> Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ >> Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Paul , My name is Tommy Hunt and I live in Durham . I have just joined the Durham-Oragne Gen. Society. I need some help and ideas and do not know who to call on . The Problem; I have checked the Census Report for 1900 and found my father , Clarence Marvin Hunt , age 3. His older sister is also there age 7. There is also an older brother , age 10 named Claude. It clearly list him as a son of my Grandmother. I had never heard of Claude from my father or any of his brothers or sisters. My Grandmother never mentioned him . I checked the 1910 census , he was not there . He either died or left home . If he had left home I am sure someone would have mentioned him . I have checked the death records in Durham County and they only start at 1913. He is not there. I have checked the cemetaries , not there. Can anyone give me any other ideas as to how I can find what happened the this person. ? By the way , the cencus recorder at that time listed my Grandfather as R.M. Hunt not Robert Lee Hunt as it should have been listed. It also listed my Grandmother as Maggie instead of Margaret. I think he was in a big hurry to go to lunch. Many thanks , Tommy Hunt , [email protected] Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hollinghurst" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:24 PM Subject: [NCDOGS] D-OGS Meeting Reminder, Wednesday, 7 November 2007, "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for My Melungeon Ancestors" > Wednesday, 7 November 2007 -- D-OGS Meeting > > TOPIC: "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for My Melungeon > Ancestors" > > Speaker: Lisa Alther > > Lisa Alther, the author of several books, just published her first > non-fiction book "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for My > Melungeon Ancestors". Her story begins with her childhood and involved > travels through the South and to several countries in search of the truth of > her origins, including a DNA test to confirm her suspicions. Lisa finds > answers about her origins but many mysteries remain. > > An extremely provocative element in Alther's search revolves around > boogie-man stories from childhood about Melungeons. She heard they had six > fingers on each hand. As a child, she didn't know if this was true, or if > Melungeons existed. Haunted by this mystery, she began trying to learn all > she could and met a man in southwest Virginia who, indeed, was born with six > fingers on each hand who showed her scars from surgery to remove the sixth > finger; he turned out to be a distant cousin of hers. > > As Alther says, "Conflicting origin of stories for the Melungeons abound. > They're said to be descended from Indians who mated with early Spanish > explorers, or from the survivors of Sir Walter Raleigh's Lost Colony on > Roanoke Island, or from Portuguese sailors shipwrecked on the Carolina > coast, or from African slaves who escaped into the mountains." Her > newly-discovered cousin thought they had Turkish ancestry. After traveling > the South and Turkey and other parts of the world for extensive research, > Alther concludes she is Melungeon, especially after having a DNA test which > showed all her genetic make-up. > > D-OGS Meeting will be held on: > Wednesday evening, 7 November 2007 at 7 p.m. > Duke Homestead Visitor's Center > 2828 Duke Homestead Road, Durham 27705 > Phone: (919) 477-5498 > One-half mile from I-85 and Guess Rd (Exit 175) > Follow the brown historic site road signs. > > A Map! http://tinyurl.com/3mbuj > Another Map! http://tinyurl.com/4gnkm > ******************************** > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Carol! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:55 PM Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] D-OGS Meeting Reminder, Wednesday, 7 November 2007,"Kinfolks: F... D-OGS and friends, Wednesday's meeting would be a good opportunity to bring a friend or neighbor who is not yet into pedigrees and ahnentafels, but has wondered about those interesting family stories that don't really make sense, but seem to endure over the years in their family. People have been aware of the Melungeons for generations through Appalachia, but the tittle has not always been a popular one, and sometimes even disparaging. You will notice that many of the names commonly associated with the Melungeons are ones you have seen in this region but never thought twice about. Do you know any of them? Do you have these stories in your family? Some of them are found here: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mtnties/name.html#Melungeon This is a page of basic information if the term is new to you: http://www.melungeon.org/?BISKIT=1116845&CONTEXT=cat&cat=10076 Here's another page you might like to look at: http://members.aol.com/bbbenge/page15.html A clearinghouse of Melongeon sites: http://www.nativeamericans.com/Melungeon.htm I expect we will learn more about some of these sites; bear in mind I turned them up in a Google search to prepare myself for Lisa Alther's presentation so I cannot comment on their accuracy. Try not to miss this meeting, we're all sure to learn a lot about these interesting and elusive people. I'm looking forward to it. Carol ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] b.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

D-OGS and friends, Wednesday's meeting would be a good opportunity to bring a friend or neighbor who is not yet into pedigrees and ahnentafels, but has wondered about those interesting family stories that don't really make sense, but seem to endure over the years in their family. People have been aware of the Melungeons for generations through Appalachia, but the tittle has not always been a popular one, and sometimes even disparaging. You will notice that many of the names commonly associated with the Melungeons are ones you have seen in this region but never thought twice about. Do you know any of them? Do you have these stories in your family? Some of them are found here: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mtnties/name.html#Melungeon This is a page of basic information if the term is new to you: http://www.melungeon.org/?BISKIT=1116845&CONTEXT=cat&cat=10076 Here's another page you might like to look at: http://members.aol.com/bbbenge/page15.html A clearinghouse of Melongeon sites: http://www.nativeamericans.com/Melungeon.htm I expect we will learn more about some of these sites; bear in mind I turned them up in a Google search to prepare myself for Lisa Alther's presentation so I cannot comment on their accuracy. Try not to miss this meeting, we're all sure to learn a lot about these interesting and elusive people. I'm looking forward to it. Carol ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Wednesday, 7 November 2007 -- D-OGS Meeting TOPIC: "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for My Melungeon Ancestors" Speaker: Lisa Alther Lisa Alther, the author of several books, just published her first non-fiction book "Kinfolks: Falling Off the Family Tree - The Search for My Melungeon Ancestors". Her story begins with her childhood and involved travels through the South and to several countries in search of the truth of her origins, including a DNA test to confirm her suspicions. Lisa finds answers about her origins but many mysteries remain. An extremely provocative element in Alther's search revolves around boogie-man stories from childhood about Melungeons. She heard they had six fingers on each hand. As a child, she didn't know if this was true, or if Melungeons existed. Haunted by this mystery, she began trying to learn all she could and met a man in southwest Virginia who, indeed, was born with six fingers on each hand who showed her scars from surgery to remove the sixth finger; he turned out to be a distant cousin of hers. As Alther says, "Conflicting origin of stories for the Melungeons abound. They're said to be descended from Indians who mated with early Spanish explorers, or from the survivors of Sir Walter Raleigh's Lost Colony on Roanoke Island, or from Portuguese sailors shipwrecked on the Carolina coast, or from African slaves who escaped into the mountains." Her newly-discovered cousin thought they had Turkish ancestry. After traveling the South and Turkey and other parts of the world for extensive research, Alther concludes she is Melungeon, especially after having a DNA test which showed all her genetic make-up. D-OGS Meeting will be held on: Wednesday evening, 7 November 2007 at 7 p.m. Duke Homestead Visitor's Center 2828 Duke Homestead Road, Durham 27705 Phone: (919) 477-5498 One-half mile from I-85 and Guess Rd (Exit 175) Follow the brown historic site road signs. A Map! http://tinyurl.com/3mbuj Another Map! http://tinyurl.com/4gnkm ********************************

Hi, I received this in my email and thought it would be of general interest to all, particularly the TMG Users Group: If you all haven't seen this yet, let me direct your attention to the current edition of "Upfront with NGS". Chuck Mason, CG has written an excellent (repeat, Excellent) article "Citing Sources Sensibly." He puts into perspective the current issues over source citation, and addresses so well the quandaries about citing sources. This article should answer many questions and ally everyone's fears. I strongly encourage every NGS-HSC student to read his article right now (URL below), and to keep a copy handy to read whenever they start to have questions, qualms or anxiety about citing sources. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/NGS/2007-11/1193940369 Enjoy! Ava

The November 2007 Newsletter is now available online at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/membersonly/. Sorry for the delay. We had technical difficulties with the Rootsweb server. Is your family having a reunion? Do you have news or events you want to include in the monthly Newsletter? Email your write-ups and material to Newsletter Editor, Richard Ellington, [email protected] or call: 919.967.4168 *************************

Fellow D-OGS, I wonder sometimes if genealogists realize what am important role they have in the health of their families, both immediate and extended. Curt Witcher has some comments in his recent newsletter from "Genealogy Gems: News from the Fort Wayne Library No. 44, October 30, 2007" "*************************************** Looking into Late Autumn by Curt B. Witcher *************************************** With another Family History Month successfully concluding, I truly hope you can say that you spent at least a little extra time this month engaging in family history activities. I have always thought it appropriate that Family History Month falls just before the annual holiday rush. It can serve as a bit of a wake-up call for us in preparing for the holidays. Yes, there is the great feast to prepare for the Thanksgiving dinner table and further, there are all those presents to acquire and distribute. But when you stop to think about the heart of the holidays, it is typically there that you find family. And where you find family, you find fantastic opportunities to share stories, documents, and photographs about ancestors and days gone by. In the last two years, November has been designated "Family Health History Month" with Thanksgiving Day being proclaimed "Family Health History Day." While I have not seen much publicity on this in 2007, I believe it is still quite worthwhile to take some time in November to specifically focus on your health history. The U.S. Surgeon General has created a "My Family Health Portrait" website at <https://familyhistory.hhs.gov/>. Getting started couldn't get much easier." Let's all take advantage of promoting good health awareness this Thanksgiving and take a look at that software he talks about. Those familial patterns of health are very helpful in prevention. If one person in our family benefits it will be worth it. Carol ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

I got this info in an email today: Think you know Durham? Premiere Film Screening Durham: A Self-Portrait Join us for the highly anticipated premiere screening of the documentary film "Durham: A Self-Portrait." Tales of our community have been sensationalized in the national media. Finally, it is Durham’s turn to tell its own story. We look forward to welcoming you and your family and friends on Friday evening, 7:30pm, November 16, at the Carolina Theatre! Tickets are free but going fast. You can pick up your tickets beforehand at the Carolina Theatre box office (560-3030). Friday, November 16 Screening begins at 7:30 PM Online: www.portraitofdurham.com/Web_Invite.pdf -- Richard =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Richard K. Ellington ITS Facilities Manager Information Technology Services University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 440 W. Franklin St., CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599-1150 Control Center - http://control-center.unc.edu 919-698-8591 (voice) 919-843-9153 (fax) [email protected] "We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job". -Winston Churchill =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

I just received this following message from the Trading Path Association. The first portion is a reminder about their First Sunday Hike, this Sunday in Alamance County. =================================================== October 30, 2007 First Sunday Hike Reminder Vehicle Need Reminder Mailing List Opt In/Opt Out Reminder [Please, remember to check the "Events" section in the right column of the Trading Path website <http://www.tradingpath.org> for all of our upcoming events.] ************************* Map of Cedar Cliffs area <http://www.tradingpath.org/images/stories/NewsletterImages/cedarcliffsarea.jpg>November's First Sunday Hike will be on the west bank of the Haw River, in Alamance County, NC, at Cedar Cliffs. The Payne name is prominent on both sides of the Haw at this point. We once held a hike on the east bank of the Haw at Cedar Cliffs, and we saw the foundations for the old, long gone post office. We also saw some canal work and parts of a lock that used to lift cargo barges around a dam at this point in the 19th century. In fact, the dam made possible a ferry at Cedar Cliffs where once, long before, there was a ford. On the map to the left (click the map for a larger image) there is a dashed brown line leading down to the river from the west. That is the old roadbed. We will meet at the "star" and walk over to the line from there. To find the trail head heading south on Highway 87: turn east on Preacher Holmes Rd, right at the first paved road on to Cedar Cliffs Rd, left at first paved road on to Rumley Road, and left again on to Coggins Road. For those of you using a navigation system, just enter 4698 Coggins Rd, Graham, NC. Coming north from Saxapahaw or along Highway 87 you can turn on to Rumley Rd and then turn right on Coggins Road. Click here for a topo map of the area with arrows showing the way. <http://www.tradingpath.org/images/stories/Events/novemberfshmap.jpg> TPA Still Needs Vehicles Member John Delconte loaned us a diesel Isuzu Trooper ('88), so we're able to operate, but we still need a TPA vehicle. Our preference is for a diesel powered vehicle, and we'll still not count a gift-horse's teeth, but realisticly we need donations to use for trade-in. So, if you know of a vehicle owned by someone who needs a solid deduction this year, please, make the connection. Alternatively, if you know of a really, really, really good deal on a FWD vehicle, please, contact the TPA ([email protected] or 919-644-0600) Annual Fund Raising Letter Each year the TPA sends out our annual dues and donation reminder at the end of the year. That letter generates about a quarter to a third of our annual operating budget. It is an import source of operating money. We are about to send out this year's note. Some of you are not on the mailing list and want to receive that letter. Others of you are on the mailing list and don't want to receive that letter. Please, let us know whether to remove you from or add you to our list by sending email to [email protected] indicating your pleasure. ================================================ -- Richard =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Richard K. Ellington ITS Facilities Manager Information Technology Services University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 440 W. Franklin St., CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599-1150 Control Center - http://control-center.unc.edu 919-698-8591 (voice) 919-843-9153 (fax) [email protected] "We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job". -Winston Churchill =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

This discussion reminds me of something I saw during a trip to New York City last year. On a Saturday afternoon I visited a flea market held in a parking lot in lower Manhattan. Most of the items for sale were antiques, used books and furniture. What grabbed my attention was several boxes on a vendor's table, filled with old black and white photos. I spent almost an hour just flipping through handfuls of loose photographs and nearly all of them looked like the type of family photos that would be priceless additions to any family history materials. Most of the photos did not have any notations on the back. The subject matter of the photos ranged from portraits to birthday parties, even photos of a deceased family member at a wake or funeral. I felt a little sad and frustrated that I was looking through so many photos that would have been valuable to a person who had a connection to them. Unfortunately, the path the photos took to end up in a box at a flea market most certainly stripped away necessary context and kept them from being useful family history materials. I suppose the only possible way to keep such materials from disappearing forever is to guide them to organizations that can preserve them for future research purposes. As a side observation, my experience underscores the durability of some of our older forms of media. I was able to view and examine photographs that were anywhere from 70-80 years old and they looked pretty good in spite of rough handling and poor storage conditions. By contrast, I own 3.5 inch computer discs containing data files that are a modest 20 years old and I am not able to access them using any of my new computers. The only computer I have that can read them is a Macintosh that was made in 1994. ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:10:16 AM Subject: [NCDOGS] Old photos & tin types To DOGS members, I probably have the same dilema many of you have, lots of old UNidentified photos & tin types of family members. I hate to just dispose of them so I'm asking if you know of any Historical Society or similar group that would be happy to have them? Looking forward to your replies----------------charlotte hyer ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Carol I had saved it to my favorites and I pulled it up and copy and paste. This works out good for me on about all emails I send with links. Judy -------------- Original message from [email protected]: -------------- > Did you remove the angle brackets before and after the URL? > > Carol > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

See if this one works for you Judy http://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2008/nr08-14.html -------------- Original message from "Tommy Hunt" <[email protected]>: -------------- > I cannot seem to bring the military site up , what am I doing wrong ? Tommy > Hunt ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gwyneth Duncan" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:32 AM > Subject: [NCDOGS] Pre-1947 Official Military Personnel Files now open (in > St. Louis, MO) > > > > This came across the genealib listserv: > > > > > > > > This include WWI and WWI military records. > > > > Gwyneth > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Gwyneth Duncan Voice: 919-660-5860 > > Systems Libr arian Fax: 919-684-2855 > > Perkins Library Email: [email protected] > > Box 90196 > > Duke University > > Durham, NC 27708-0196 > > ************************* > > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from th e list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message