Just a reminder, tomorrow is the CIG meeting, and this time we will be meeting in the room next door, the large conference room. We will need to put the tables and chairs up when we get there to prepare for the meeting, so if you can lend a hand it will be appreciated. The meeting starts at 9:00 AM and among the usual "other things", we will talk about how to put together a CD to give for a holiday gift this year. This could be the most economical holiday season in a long time, if we play our cards right, and just in time if you've been listening to the news this week. Anyone have the sound track for "Brother Can You Spare a Dime?". Let's be creative and produce a CD that will be worth keeping and playing this year, next year, and as long as a CD is the current method of recording images and sound. Carol **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)

If you were unable to attend October's meeting and enjoy the DVD of the DeFonseca Fraud, you have a second chance to learn about it. The NGS Quarterly of September, 2008 carries a lengthy article about the work that went into uncovering the fraud. The steps of the genealogical process are clearly laid out and the article is as good as the DVD. If you happen not to be an NGS member, perhaps your local public library or genealogical library will have the issue for you to read. I bet you'll enjoy it. Carol **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)

Can I use the "MSG group" method for handling the TMG-list rather than e-mail?

Yes Lucie, they are some kind of kin, and I'd appreciate the photo. And thank you for the comment on the presentation. I enjoyed it very much, and had the pleasure to meet another couple who have a Hubbell connection, even though social and not one of consanguinity. Jim related his knowledge of a Hubbell who attended Choate School in Wallingford, CT two years ahead of him and he turned out to be along time friend and cousin of mine - Harold B. Hubbell, the founder of The Hubbell Family Historical Society. The Hubbell of the Hubbell Trading Post in Ganado was well known for being an Indian trader who had a whole string of trading posts in Arizona, and a colorful history. There are books written about him that are quite interesting, the best of which was written by Martha Blue, a lawyer and authority on the Indians (that's what they tell me they prefer to be called) in that area. It's titled "Indian Trader" and very interesting. You can find her picture on the THFHS web site, _www.hubbell.org_ (http://www.hubbell.org) when she attended our reunion there a few years ago. Very sharp and interesting lady. In fact there are numerous pictures of the family reunion there, taken by me and a cousin. I loved the time we spent there and learned so much about things I never dreamed of. So you just never know who you're going to run into do you? We suppose that virtually all the Hubbell/Hubbles in the US and Canada are the descendants of Richard Hubbell of Rock, Worcestershire, UK and so I am related peripherally to Edwin Powell Hubble, Carl Hubbell noted in the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, NY, Henry Salem Hubbell, the impressionist painter, and others. I'm glad others have done that genealogy, that's a life's work. I hope you're feeling well. Carol New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)

Carol...someone stopped the other day and told me again how interested they were in the program you gave.?? Secondly,? I think I mentioned to you once before that I visited the Hubbell Trading Post in Arizona.....are they some of your kin??? I clipped a picture of it the other day...Do you have a picture...if not would you like for me to send it to you? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 4:46 pm Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Meeting discussion In a message dated 10/2/2008 2:39:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Re: Translations. What a long way we've come since I had to learn some sixteenth century German to read parish records on microfilm. Joyce, it's good to hear from one of the members who cannot attend our regular meetings. We depend upon you more than you realize. (Some of you who live far away may know more about genealogy and Old Orange County than I will learn in my lifetime.) I think you put your finger on what often keeps our searches confined within our national boundaries, especially in the case of a foreign language we are not familiar with, not simply a culture that is foreign to us. Some of those old microfilms were so formidable to me that it stopped my German research cold and I have never really caught as much as I should to find success with that branch of my family. However I have learned much more about online resources for research, people in Germany who are multilingual who have been endlessly helpful, and locations of data that is meaningful to me. Carol **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

WOW,  Carol, et al,    Re: Translations. What a long way we've come since I had to learn some sixteenth century German to read parish records on microfilm.             Joyce, in Florida -----Original Message----- From: <[email protected]> Sent 10/1/2008 8:29:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NCDOGS] Meeting discussionI loved the DVD about the Defonseca fraud case at the D-OGS meeting tonight. Amazing what people will buy, isn't it? 'Wish everyone could see it. We talked about a wide variety of interesting topics afterward. There were some questions about which seemed to be the best translation tools online, and what is Skype? So here are a couple of sites I can think of or find, but I'd like you out-of-towners to suggest your own favorite translation sites to share with the rest of us. Babel Fish - _http://babelfish.yahoo.com/_ (http://babelfish.yahoo.com/) Free Translation - _http://www.freetranslation.com/_ (http://www.freetranslation.com/) Google Translate - _http://translate.google.com/translate_t_ (http://translate.google.com/translate_t) # Free Translation Online - _http://translation2.paralink.com/_ (http://translation2.paralink.com/) World Lingo - _http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html_ (http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html) Langenberg - _http://translation.langenberg.com/_ (http://translation.langenberg.com/) This one is the most complex and interesting, for most of these free sites you highlight, copy, and paste your foreign language material into the little window and select the language it is written and what you translate it into and ZAP there's your translation. This one will work with Fuzzums, Xerox and other intriguiging instruments to do your guessing for you. That of course highlights the "interesting" part of using translation sites, if you don't know the words are spelled correctly, neither will the translator and it will simply put the word in toto into the translated text. Not much help there. So you may want to keep a foreign language dictionary at hand as you prepare to enter your text into the program. In that way if you find a word doesn't make it through translation you can look it up and see if it an unusual tense or archaic usage you are dealing with. The other great tool we talked about was Skype, the free internet phone service. _http://www.skype.com/_ (http://www.skype.com/) When our son was in Mexico for a few years we had regular conversations over our computers sharing the news of the two countries, and keeping him in touch with the family. If you have cousins or contacts in Europe or some other place where you speak the language this is the tool for you. If you haven't tried these things, you are missing some of the best parts of the web. What a banquet! Carol **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 10/2/2008 2:39:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Re: Translations. What a long way we've come since I had to learn some sixteenth century German to read parish records on microfilm. Joyce, it's good to hear from one of the members who cannot attend our regular meetings. We depend upon you more than you realize. (Some of you who live far away may know more about genealogy and Old Orange County than I will learn in my lifetime.) I think you put your finger on what often keeps our searches confined within our national boundaries, especially in the case of a foreign language we are not familiar with, not simply a culture that is foreign to us. Some of those old microfilms were so formidable to me that it stopped my German research cold and I have never really caught as much as I should to find success with that branch of my family. However I have learned much more about online resources for research, people in Germany who are multilingual who have been endlessly helpful, and locations of data that is meaningful to me. Carol **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

I loved the DVD about the Defonseca fraud case at the D-OGS meeting tonight. Amazing what people will buy, isn't it? 'Wish everyone could see it. We talked about a wide variety of interesting topics afterward. There were some questions about which seemed to be the best translation tools online, and what is Skype? So here are a couple of sites I can think of or find, but I'd like you out-of-towners to suggest your own favorite translation sites to share with the rest of us. Babel Fish - _http://babelfish.yahoo.com/_ (http://babelfish.yahoo.com/) Free Translation - _http://www.freetranslation.com/_ (http://www.freetranslation.com/) Google Translate - _http://translate.google.com/translate_t_ (http://translate.google.com/translate_t) # Free Translation Online - _http://translation2.paralink.com/_ (http://translation2.paralink.com/) World Lingo - _http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html_ (http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html) Langenberg - _http://translation.langenberg.com/_ (http://translation.langenberg.com/) This one is the most complex and interesting, for most of these free sites you highlight, copy, and paste your foreign language material into the little window and select the language it is written and what you translate it into and ZAP there's your translation. This one will work with Fuzzums, Xerox and other intriguiging instruments to do your guessing for you. That of course highlights the "interesting" part of using translation sites, if you don't know the words are spelled correctly, neither will the translator and it will simply put the word in toto into the translated text. Not much help there. So you may want to keep a foreign language dictionary at hand as you prepare to enter your text into the program. In that way if you find a word doesn't make it through translation you can look it up and see if it an unusual tense or archaic usage you are dealing with. The other great tool we talked about was Skype, the free internet phone service. _http://www.skype.com/_ (http://www.skype.com/) When our son was in Mexico for a few years we had regular conversations over our computers sharing the news of the two countries, and keeping him in touch with the family. If you have cousins or contacts in Europe or some other place where you speak the language this is the tool for you. If you haven't tried these things, you are missing some of the best parts of the web. What a banquet! Carol **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Carol, I sent you a Word attachment of my notes from the conference. Give me an address to send it to and I will. June **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

June, Thanks for thinking of the CIG, I appreciate it. I bet the conference was really interesting. Carol **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Carole, I couldn't answer your email right away. I had to type up my notes from the NGS Philadelpha Conference. I attended an excellent lecture on Search Engines which I found quite informative. Of course, I still haven't check them all out yet. I think there is enough material in the notes to make at least one meeting of interest. You can fun playing around with these different engines. Hope to see you at the next meeting. June -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 7:48 pm Subject: [NCDOGS] D-OGS CIG Every month for a very long time now I have posted a topic for each month's CIG meeting and I've requested folks to send in suggestions for us to discuss at the next meeting. There are a few good souls out there who unfailingly send along some URLs or articles for the agenda, but I know there are many others who regularly surf the web for items that enhance their genealogical research, but who have not yet contributed to the CIG. Perhaps you are one of them. I suspect you may have some valuable contributions to make to our learning. We've heard from some folks across the country saying they regret that they are unable to attend meetings, and they request minutes of meetings, summaries of presentations, and so forth. It is important for you all to know that you can play a very important role in the operation of D-OGS by contrib uting to the CIG agenda so that everyone can benefit from what you have learned. After all, near or far, we're all in this together. I have occasionally wondered why I don't hear from more of you from out of town. It occurs to me that perhaps you don't know what to send, whether it would have value to others, or if we have already discussed that topic. Well it's time to clear up that point. I've broken our agenda loosely into topics or headings so I could present it in a somewhat orderly fashion, but that's not to say we always stick strictly to the outline of course. Sometimes a subject hits home so directly that we spend our entire meeting with it and often run overtime. I think it might help you see what might be of interest to us and what kind of things are of interest to the group. I've taken the outline we use and illustrated what might fit in any of the broad general topics. If you think you can find a web site or an article that might fit into one of these categories, won't you please send it to me? And another one next month? It doesn't take long and it would be very welcome. Take a look at the format below and see if there is something you can contribute. Scan an article, send a URL, ask a question, the summary of the meeting will appear in next month's online newsletter. Thanks very much for your participation. Carol Boggs Durham-Orange Genealogical Society Computer Special Interest Group (D-OGS CIG) Agenda Month, Year Humor: Cartoons, jokes, pictures Questions and problems you’re having: Computer, the web, camera, printer, PDA, TMG Questions: Small specific details, not broad concepts in general - we have a TMG users group for that. What’s New? Current events, product releases, changes in ownership, new companies etc. Web sites worth visiting: Pertain somewhat to genealogy: writing, researching, editing, technology issues, regional sites with broad appeal, tools, techniques, history, geography, maps, sociology, genetics, academic sites, archaeology Eclectic Web Sites: The sky’s the limit, the web has such an incredible variety of sites that we could never visit them alone, so this is the place to air them for everyone. Nuggets from blogs, newslists, bulletin boards, podcasts and emails: Genealogical and other relevant topics with source citation included (ie., where you found it; name, date, edition, URL) Gleaned from Print: Genealogical journals, news magazines, historical publications, etc. Topic Du Jour: The published topic, intended for discussion, but not to cover the entire span of the meeting time. Articles of Interest: Scanned articles that would be of interest to a number of the participants with full citation General Points: Everyone is invited to submit topics to the agenda, whether they attend meetings or not. The summary of each meeting is submitted to the newsletter after the meeting so everyone will eventually have access to the topics discussed in the meeting. Therefore, the more folks send in material for the agenda, the more everyone will benefit in the long run. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? 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I am saddened to report that local D-OGS member Bob Blackwood of Chapel Hill, NC, died on 23 September 2008. A member since March of 2005, Bob regularly attended our meetings and will be missed. You may view his obituary here: http://obit.hallwynne.com/obitdisplay.html?id=585660&listing=Current

Wednesday, 1 October 2008 -- D-OGS Meeting TOPIC: "The Misha Defonseca Holocaust Fraud: Forensic Genealogy Lessons for Your Own Family" The program for this month will be The Misha Defonseca Holocaust Fraud: Forensic Genealogy Lessons for Your Own Family. This is a film of a presentation by Sharon Sergeant to the Massachusetts Genealogical Council Annual Meeting and Seminar in April 2008. The film was produced by David T. Robertson and the Framingham, Massachusetts Public Access Television station. The research methods used in exposing the Misha Defonseca Holocaust Fraud case can provide many lessons for any family history researcher in forensic genealogy techniques. To read more about Sharon Sergeant: How a touching memoir became a shocking fraud: http://tinyurl.com/4x27dn To read more about the producer: Uncovering hidden truths: Framingham man documents the exposure of a fraud: http://tinyurl.com/3p7vey D-OGS Meeting will be held on: Wednesday evening, 1 October 2008 at 7 p.m. Duke Homestead Visitor's Center 2828 Duke Homestead Road, Durham 27705 Phone: (919) 477-5498 One-half mile from I-85 and Guess Rd (Exit 175) Follow the brown historic site road signs. A Map! http://tinyurl.com/3mbuj Another Map! http://tinyurl.com/4gnkm ********************************

I am so sorry. I didn't mean for that last post to go out to the entire group! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mj hall Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:30 AM Cc: '[email protected]' Subject: [NCDOGS] Please post on the Web Site I would like someone to teach a one night class (can do more than one night if you want) on genealogy and family roots research for Academy Nights, an evening enrichment program at Durham Academy. I am one of the co-chairs for this program. All of the money we raise through these classes are donated to our need-based financial aid program at DA. You can review last year's catalog to give you a better idea of what I'm talking about at: www.da.org/academynights The classes are last week of January and run through the month of February. Our deadline for recruiting is end of September. Thanks for considering, Diane Evia-Lanevi [email protected] ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Diane, Two years ago I gave Kathy Hearsey the name of a couple in DOG-S who, at the time, told me that they would be willing to teach such a course. I was going to try to attend, with the intention of possibly doing it the following year, if there was sufficient interest. Their names were Rob and Cathy Elias. Perhaps they would still be interested? Their number is 544-7876. Ava Nackman (a DA mom and member of D-OGS) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mj hall Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:30 AM Cc: '[email protected]' Subject: [NCDOGS] Please post on the Web Site I would like someone to teach a one night class (can do more than one night if you want) on genealogy and family roots research for Academy Nights, an evening enrichment program at Durham Academy. I am one of the co-chairs for this program. All of the money we raise through these classes are donated to our need-based financial aid program at DA. You can review last year's catalog to give you a better idea of what I'm talking about at: www.da.org/academynights The classes are last week of January and run through the month of February. Our deadline for recruiting is end of September. Thanks for considering, Diane Evia-Lanevi [email protected] ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like someone to teach a one night class (can do more than one night if you want) on genealogy and family roots research for Academy Nights, an evening enrichment program at Durham Academy. I am one of the co-chairs for this program. All of the money we raise through these classes are donated to our need-based financial aid program at DA. You can review last year's catalog to give you a better idea of what I'm talking about at: www.da.org/academynights The classes are last week of January and run through the month of February. Our deadline for recruiting is end of September. Thanks for considering, Diane Evia-Lanevi [email protected]

Forwarded: ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:55 AM Subject: Beginning Genealogy Classes at the Durham County Main Library Please circulate this email to anyone you think will be interested in this upcoming series of genealogy programs at the Durham County Library. Thanks! Lynn Richardson North Carolina Collection Durham County Library (919) 560-0171 Genealogy 101: How to Begin Researching Your Family Tree 6 sessions, each 90 minutes long 12:00-1:30 p.m. Thursdays: September 25, October 2, 9, 16, 23, 30 Conference Room, Durham County Library, Main Branch To Register for one or two sessions or the whole series: Go to www.durhamcountylibrary.org and click on Programs and Events Learn how to gather basic genealogical information, interpret records and overcome roadblocks, organize and write your family history, get the most out of internet resources, and use local, regional and national repositories. Led by Rob Elias, past president of Durham-Orange Genealogical Society and member of the National Genealogical Society, and Cathy Elias, staff member at Olivia Raney Local History Library and active member of D-OGS and NGS. Rob and Cathy have conducted extensive genealogical research throughout the United States and in Great Britain and have presented talks and workshops throughout the Triangle on basic, African-American, Scots-Irish, and Welsh genealogy and writing your ancestor's story. For more information: 560-0171. Topics: Week 1: Class Objectives; Birth, Marriage, and Death Records Week 2: Census Records Week 3: Library and Archive Skills; Software Suggestions Week 4: Planning a Genealogical Trip; Freedmen's Bureau records Week 5: Writing Your Ancestor's Story; Internet Resources Week 6: Overcoming Brick Walls

Showtimes are good from Friday, Sept. 19th thru Thursday, Sept. 25th Nightly: 7:15pm, 9:15pm Sat.-Sun. Matinees: 2:15pm, 4:30pm See: http://www.chelseavarsity.com/#varsityshowtimes ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] "Moving Midway" > Do I understand that it showed only the 19th through the 21st? > > Carol > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Check out: http://www.movingmidway.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ava H. Nackman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] D-OGS CIG > Unfortunately, I don't know. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] D-OGS CIG > > Ava, > > I can understand why you wanted to see that film, it > sounds great. Thanks > for letting us in on it. I wonder how long it will be > running? > > Carol > > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your > real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news > and information, tips > and > calculators. > (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message