----- Original Message ----- From: "Tommy Hunt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] submissions for January 2009 newsletter > Since I see so many tombstones that are hard to read I would think it > might > be nice to have someting in the newslatter as to how to clean them or how > to > read what is inscribed when it is either worn or molded over. This may not > be a good idea but it does interest me and someone in the group may know . > Thanks , Tommy Hunt ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Ellington" <[email protected]> > To: "D-OGS closed list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:55 PM > Subject: [NCDOGS] submissions for January 2009 newsletter > > >> Ig you have anything that you want included in the January newsletter, >> please send it to me by noon this Friday, 12/19. >> >> >> -- Richard >> >> =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= >> >> Richard K. Ellington >> ITS Data Centers Manager >> Information Technology Services >> University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill >> 440 W. Franklin St., CB 1150 >> Chapel Hill, NC 27599-1150 >> Control Center - http://control-center.unc.edu >> >> 919-698-8591 (voice) >> 919-843-9153 (fax) >> [email protected] >> >> >> "We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken >> or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job". >> >> -Winston Churchill >> >> =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= >> ************************* >> Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ >> Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

how to clean them or how to > read what is inscribed when it is either worn or molded over. This may not > be a good idea but it does interest me and someone in the group may know . > Thanks , Tommy Hunt I neglected to reply to the "molded over" issue: a stiff horsehair brush is about the strongest tool that is approved for cleaning mold/moss/lichen from the inscriptions. Some recommend plain water, but I can't easily get water to the remote abandoned cemeteries I have to hike to around here, so the stout horsehair (not wire) brush is my best suggestion! Cleo Hogan

> >> Since I see so many tombstones that are hard to read I would think it >> might be nice to have someting in the newslatter as to how to clean them >> or how >> to read what is inscribed when it is either worn or molded over. This may >> not >> be a good idea but it does interest me and someone in the group may know >> . >> Thanks , Tommy Hunt >>> If you have anything that you want included in the January newsletter, >>> please send it to me by noon this Friday, 12/19. >>> -- Richard Here's the "fount of all knowledge" on the subject of gravestone preservation: http://www.gravestonestudies.org/. Prowl around on that site for much information! For many years, I have used with success plain table flour which, applied by the handful, and gently rubbed into the inscriptions, will bring out even very worn inscriptions, so they may be successfully photographed. It is organic, and avoids all the chemical objections of gravestone preservationists. There are those who prefer chalk or some other powder, but I find if I run out of my supply unexpectedly, I can replentish it at the corner store in Orange County! Of course, NEVER use wire brushes, or metal devices of any kind to "clean" the lichen off grave markers. And NEVER chemicals like purex or cholorox!! A new topic that has surfaced hereabouts, is the use of "divining rods" to locate lost graves that have no stone markers. There's controversy about it's effectiveness, but I've been convinced by a fellow from IL, who came to give a program on it at the Cheatham County [TN] Historical and Genealogical Association at Ashland City, TN last summer. It's an individual learning experience, but seems to work! He located and platted the graves in a long lost family cemetery behind a house within the city, that had been encroached upon, and only some vinca minor remained in a tiny patch. Seems there were perhaps a dozen gravesites there that had been lost. Cleo Hogan, JD Clarksville, TN Past Director & Life Member, NC Gen Soc Founding Director, Old Buncombe Co. Gen Soc Desc of Hogan, Holt, King, Lloyd, Craig, Blackwood of Orange

Since I see so many tombstones that are hard to read I would think it might be nice to have someting in the newslatter as to how to clean them or how to read what is inscribed when it is either worn or molded over. This may not be a good idea but it does interest me and someone in the group may know . Thanks , Tommy Hunt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ellington" <[email protected]> To: "D-OGS closed list" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: [NCDOGS] submissions for January 2009 newsletter > Ig you have anything that you want included in the January newsletter, > please send it to me by noon this Friday, 12/19. > > > -- Richard > > =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= > > Richard K. Ellington > ITS Data Centers Manager > Information Technology Services > University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill > 440 W. Franklin St., CB 1150 > Chapel Hill, NC 27599-1150 > Control Center - http://control-center.unc.edu > > 919-698-8591 (voice) > 919-843-9153 (fax) > [email protected] > > > "We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken > or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job". > > -Winston Churchill > > =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Ig you have anything that you want included in the January newsletter, please send it to me by noon this Friday, 12/19. -- Richard =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Richard K. Ellington ITS Data Centers Manager Information Technology Services University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 440 W. Franklin St., CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599-1150 Control Center - http://control-center.unc.edu 919-698-8591 (voice) 919-843-9153 (fax) [email protected] "We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job". -Winston Churchill =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

The info you mentioned about the Bledsoe family in Granville County is about my Bledsoe relatives. Do you have any info about Jordan Bledsoe (who married Catherine ??); he was borned about 1810 and their children were Lank, Melissa, Fanny, and Mary W. (maybe some others). My ggrandmother was Mary W. Bledsoe. She was borned abt 1820's; she married James F. Stone abt 1841. Will appreciate any info you can provide. Doris Saunders [email protected]> From: [email protected]> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 00:29:52 -0500> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION> > Dear Bebe,> > No my husband, Tom, is not in the Tiller Ship line. He descends from Nancy's > brother Abraham who married Susannah Brassfield, Their son was Orren Webb > Belvin who married Louisa Rottenberry and thier son was Hillman Belvin who > married Henriette (Etta) Veazey (Veasey) and their son was John Frank Belivn who > married Minnie Barbara Glenn and their son was Tom's Dad, William Egbert > Belvin. > > Have you seen the book The Heritage of Wake County? I was co-editor with > Harriette Riggs, It has family histories for Robert Belvin, Abraham Belvin, > Thomas Glenn & Me) Charles Hinton Belvin ( in the Abraham Belvin line) > > Also John Belvin ( brother of Abraham) and Elijah Washington Belvn , Volvie > Mitchell Belvin and Zebulon Vance Belvin all of the John Belvin line. The > other brother was James and he went to Georgia. It also has an article about > Tiller Ship. The Shipp ine goes back to Richard Ship of Lunenburg County, VA > who died in 1778 and then back to Josiah Shipp 11 who was born in 1693> > Have you seen this book? If you haven't send me your home address and I > will copy it for you and mail it.> > As for the Bledsoe's , Priscilla Bledsoe married Robert Belvin Her parents > (Granville Co) were Abraham Bledsoe and Sara and Abraham's parents were George > Bledsoe (born1673) in Va. and his wife was Anne Ball. I have some Bledsoe > information from a woman in Durham but can't get to it tonight.> > Lynne Belvin > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)> *************************> Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/> Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_122008

Carol, I had already sent Paul a confirmed speaker for April. Who is supposed to be coordinating this? Ann ------Original Message------ From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] To: [email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] The Public Domain Sent: Dec 15, 2008 11:04 AM Margo, It's good of you to offer your services, and I know we would enjoy your presentation based on the one you did for us this year, but as it happens I have just confirmed a speaker for the topic in April. I hope that we can count on you for another subject in 2009, after all, your presentation generated one of the questions on our birthday quiz last week. <G> I'll be in touch. Thanks very much! Carol **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Margo, It's good of you to offer your services, and I know we would enjoy your presentation based on the one you did for us this year, but as it happens I have just confirmed a speaker for the topic in April. I hope that we can count on you for another subject in 2009, after all, your presentation generated one of the questions on our birthday quiz last week. <G> I'll be in touch. Thanks very much! Carol **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

Carol, I have done a lecture on copyright and the genealogist. It was based on my experience and Sharon DeBartolo Carmack's book. I could give it for D-OGS if that would be of interest. Margo In a message dated 12/11/2008 7:56:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: We've been considering a topic for a future D-OGS meeting that features copyright issues and so when I heard Brook Gladstone on her program "On The Media" this weekend, I paid close attention. She was interviewing Dr. James Boyle, a Duke professor who has written a book _The Public Domain: Enclosing the Commons of Mind_ (http://astore.amazon.com/jamesboylesbooks-20/detail/0300137400) and I thought, "there's our speaker". Unfortunately, several dozen or hundred other people or organizations were thinking the same thing and when I contacted him to ask about a program he graciously declined, but offered us something in return - to go to his web site and download a pdf version of his ebook gratis, and perhaps that would give us a sense of the subject. And of course, that is the whole idea of the subject. Go here for his website _http://www.thepublicdomain.org/download/_ (http://www.thepublicdomain.org/download/) . I'm sure you'll find the book most interesting, and you'll see why it is not a simple subject. Genealogists probably grapple with copyright issues as much as any academic, and don't always have the best resources to guide them. Just ask Sharon DeBartolo Carmack about that. She wrote a book as a result of her brush with copyright issues. Enjoy the book, with all thanks to Dr. Boyle Carol **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0000001 0) ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

Dear Bebe, No my husband, Tom, is not in the Tiller Ship line. He descends from Nancy's brother Abraham who married Susannah Brassfield, Their son was Orren Webb Belvin who married Louisa Rottenberry and thier son was Hillman Belvin who married Henriette (Etta) Veazey (Veasey) and their son was John Frank Belivn who married Minnie Barbara Glenn and their son was Tom's Dad, William Egbert Belvin. Have you seen the book The Heritage of Wake County? I was co-editor with Harriette Riggs, It has family histories for Robert Belvin, Abraham Belvin, Thomas Glenn & Me) Charles Hinton Belvin ( in the Abraham Belvin line) Also John Belvin ( brother of Abraham) and Elijah Washington Belvn , Volvie Mitchell Belvin and Zebulon Vance Belvin all of the John Belvin line. The other brother was James and he went to Georgia. It also has an article about Tiller Ship. The Shipp ine goes back to Richard Ship of Lunenburg County, VA who died in 1778 and then back to Josiah Shipp 11 who was born in 1693 Have you seen this book? If you haven't send me your home address and I will copy it for you and mail it. As for the Bledsoe's , Priscilla Bledsoe married Robert Belvin Her parents (Granville Co) were Abraham Bledsoe and Sara and Abraham's parents were George Bledsoe (born1673) in Va. and his wife was Anne Ball. I have some Bledsoe information from a woman in Durham but can't get to it tonight. Lynne Belvin **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

John, As soon as I get a chance I'll look up in the two books I have and see if I can find you a connection. Bear with me..... Ava -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Miller Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 2:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION Hi Ava, the oldest Bledsoe ancestor I know about was James Anderson Bledsoe b. abt. 1823, was living in/near Brownsville, KY when his daughter Mary Ellen was born in 12/1857. He moved to Missouri after Civil War began and later to Kingfisher Co., OK. d. abt. 1923. Burried in Kingfisher, OK. Mary Ellen maried a Banks - coincidence? John On Dec 13, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Ava H. Nackman wrote: > Hi John, > The theory goes that all of the Bledsoes in America descend from one > individual, George Pletsoe, who emigrated from England circa 1652. > Don't > know if that is still considered accurate or not, but Banks > McLaurin, Jr. > did an extensive study on this family and self published his three > books. > They are large soft-covered, spiral-bound volumes, copyrighted 1993 > (at > least the first two volumes are). I personally own Volumes I and > II, having > purchased them from Mr. McLaurin years ago. His address at that > time was > 3843 Royal Crest Drive, Dallas, Texas 75230. I would be happy to > let you > have a look at them. I also believe, however, that the NC Archives > has the > complete set. I'm not positive about that, but I think I originally > discovered them there. In the intro to volume one, Mr, McLaurin > describes > how he traced his ancestry on this line back to Wake Co, NC, in the > late > 1700's. > Ava > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:ncdogs- > [email protected]] On > Behalf Of John Miller > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION > > Hi Ava, my name is John Hart Miller and my Hart ancestors lived in > Hillsboro area from abt. 1754/5 - 1837. My wife has a Bledsoe > ancestor and I would like to learn more about the McLaurin book(s) you > mentioned below - do you know who published and where I could locate a > copy? Thanks. John > > > On Dec 13, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Ava H. Nackman wrote: > >> I also have Bledsoes in my family (Ga, from Va). I am assuming that >> you are >> both aware of the three volumes on the Bledsoes written by Banks >> McLaurin? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:ncdogs- >> [email protected]] On >> Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:34 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION >> >> Dear Bebe, >> >> Please send more information- I have a good bit of Belvin as well as >> Bledsoe/Bletsoe information. >> >> When you say Nancy Belvin do you mean the Nancy Belvin who married >> Tiller >> Ship or another one? >> >> What are the dates involved? >> >> I cannot get beyond Robert Belvin who married Priscilla Bledsoe . He >> died >> in >> 1782 and she is listed in the 1790 census with 3 slaves. I have >> worked on >> this lines for 30 years. There are some Belvin's in Virginia but I >> have not >> been >> able to connect them. >> >> I look forward to hearing from you. >> >> My husband is Thomas Glenn Belvin from Durham. NC but we have lived >> in >> Garner for 36 years. We are both 70. >> >> Lynne White Belvin >> **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and >> favorite sites in one place. 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Paul, Thanks for helping with this. Libraries that have this include: Durham County UNC-CH Wake County (Olivia Raney) State Library of NC Orange County isn't listed in WorldCat as having the book and their catalog doesn't list it, either. Gwyneth --On Saturday, December 13, 2008 6:07 AM -0500 Paul Hollinghurst <[email protected]> wrote: > Message from Gwyneth Duncan below. > > Unfortunately, Rootsweb does not allow attachments to newslist messages. > I have created a page on the D-OGS website with the information and image: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncdogs/orangecountync/marriage/marriage > soforangecountybook.html > > Question? What local libraries have this book? > Durham County Library? > Orange County Library? > Chapel Hill Library? > Wake County/Olivia Raney Library? > Other? > When I receive, I will add the location(s) available to the web page > above. > > Thank you Gwyneth. And thanks to all of you for continuing this > discussion. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gwyneth Duncan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:19 PM > Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Question Re Marriage Records in Orange County > > > Another bit of data. The records in Ancestry (Marriages of Orange County, > North Carolina, 1779-1868) are based on a book of the same name by Brent > Holcomb, published 1983. I've attached an image of his introduction, > which says, among other things, that the marriage bonds of Orange County > prior to 1779 no longer survive. > > Gwyneth > > --On Friday, December 12, 2008 12:12 AM -0500 "Ava H. Nackman" > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Jim, >> I agree with you completely. Things just don't seem to be making sense. >> The possibilities are numerous and include me being unfortunate enough to >> get two inexperienced archivists on duty when I called who gave me some >> inaccurate information. That is why I've decided to just pursue this >> when I next get to the archives and can perhaps talk to the most senior >> archivist and/or take a look at these early bond microfilms myself! >> It is also certainly possible that LAND records were buried and lost, but >> marriage bonds were not. I was talking to the archivist specifically >> about marriage records. And if they indeed have microfilms of the >> earliest bonds, then they certainly didn't go missing during the >> Revolutionary War! Ava >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Jim Richmond >> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:39 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Question Re Marriage Records in Orange County >> >> I was born and raised in Orange County, searched land titles there for a >> few years, and at that time the Register of Deeds explained, and I had >> heard it before, that some land records prior to the Revolutionary war >> were missing because they were buried when Hillsborough was occupied by >> Cornwallis and his troops. Some of these records were re-recorded from >> originals after his departure. This may just be another urban legend, >> like many surrounding his occupation, debunked by modern historians. As I >> understand what is being said in these e-mails the 1752 et seq. Orange >> County marriage bond index has no entries of marriage bonds dated before >> about 1781, that the DOA index of North Carolina's marriage bonds, >> including Orange County, indicates that marriage bonds from Orange county >> dated before 1781 were filed, indexed by WPA, microfilmed, but the >> originals prior to 1781 cannot be found and DOA has no explanation of >> where they have gotten to. Quite a mystery. If DOA received marriage >> bonds from Orange County dated before 1781 why aren't they included in >> the 1752 et seq. Orange County index to marriage bonds? Why are these >> marriage bonds missing from the Orange County index but indexed and >> microfilmed by DOA the ones they can't explain why the originals are >> missing. Are there any clues to what happened when the microfilm of the >> missing marriage bonds are examined? Or are we left with a situation >> where there are no Orange County marriage bonds before about 1781 >> indexed by Orange County or filed, indexed, and microfilmed by DOA? >> Maybe Cornwallis made off with them after all. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Ava H. Nackman >> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:24 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Question Re Marriage Records in Orange County >> >> The reason I piped up here is because I had to do a survey of Orange >> County marriage records recently as a part of an assignment I was doing >> for an NGS course I am taking. I spent a day at the vital records office >> in Hillsborough. Here is what I wrote in my report regarding the >> earliest marriage records (which were all bonds): >> >> Begin quote: >> >> While the indexes and photocopied volumes indicated, from their titles, >> that records began in 1752 (the date of the county's formation), I >> skimmed the entire first volume of the groom's index and could not locate >> a single record dated earlier than 1781. There were, however, numerous >> records for the year 1781 and for all subsequent years, with no obvious >> lapses after the 1781 date. The records supervisor confirmed that >> earlier records were extremely sparse, and attributed this to the >> difficulties of early travel, which resulted in spotty official recording >> during this time period. She felt, in fact, that the records could not >> be considered really comprehensive until 1868. While I did not doubt >> that numerous marriages occurred in earlier years without the benefit of >> official sanction, I believed that the complete or almost complete >> absence of records until the sudden appearance of numerous records in >> 1781 more likely pointed to either the >> destruction/loss of the earliest records or the absence of official laws >> regarding the recording of marriage before that point in time. >> >> I determined, after a discussion with two archivists at the NC State >> Archives, that Orange County did not suffer from early record destruction >> due to burying of records during wars, fires, or other natural disasters. >> The state of North Carolina did, indeed, require the posting of bonds and >> the issuance of a license for all marriages from the county's inception. >> However, these archivists revealed that the NC Archives does hold >> additional very early records that, for one reason or another, were never >> included in the indexes, photocopied volumes, or microfiche held at the >> county Register of Deeds. They have microfilms of marriage bonds for >> Orange County that do, indeed, cover the 1752-1781 timeframe. However, >> the oldest original bonds held at the Archives date from 1779. The >> archivists could not tell me what happened to the originals of the >> 1752-1778 microfilmed bonds (!). >> >> End quote >> >> Now, I found this very curious. The microfilm copies (they may have been >> microfiche -- the archivist said microfilm, but I'm not sure how specific >> he was being) cannot have been made THAT long ago, so it is pretty >> amazing that no one tracked the whereabouts of the originals since that >> time. It is possible that there is a more experienced archivist who is >> aware of what happened to these early bonds, but the people working when >> I called had no clue, other than that they are not at the archives. >> >> By the way, my entire report is quite extensive. I am sending it in for >> grading in a day or two. When I get it back I would be happy to give it >> to DOGS for the website or to Trading Paths, as it might be very helpful >> to researchers with ancestors in Orange County, particularly people >> trying to do research long distance. I can't guarantee that it is 100% >> accurate, but it would give someone a pretty good idea of what records >> exist, how they are organized, and what information of genealogical value >> is added to/deleted from them over time. >> >> Ava >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Richard Ellington >> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:04 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Question Re Marriage Records in Orange County >> >> Am I really sure? No, I am not at all sure that this index is that >> complete. That is merely the title, as far as I am concerned. I have >> heard that there are a few marriages registered in the originating >> counties (Bladen, Granville & Johnston) after 1752 because it was more >> convenient for folks to go where they had gone to do their governmental >> duties before the creation of Orange County. According to the NCGENWEB >> site for Orange, marriage bonds issued prior to 1779 are no longer >> extant, but I don't know that for sure. >> >> - Richard >> >> >> Ava H. Nackman wrote: >>> Richard, >>> Are you really sure that there ARE 1752 marriages in that index? I am >>> curious, because the indexes that they had at the Vital Records Office >>> in Hillsborough were LABELLED 1752-, but did not in actuality contain >>> much >> from >>> before 1781. >>> >>> Marty, >>> I did speak to archivists in Raleigh, and they indicated that they did >> have >>> microfilms of the earliest marriages, back to 1752, but did NOT have >>> the originals of the very early ones. I found this odd, but the two >> archivists >>> there at the time had no idea what had become of them. Perhaps the more >>> experienced archivists who might know weren't around to ask at that >>> time. Next time I am there I hope to pursue this a bit further. >>> >>> Ava >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of [email protected] >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:18 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Question Re Marriage Records in Orange County >>> >>> Richard, >>> >>> I'm not Jack, but would you look for male Bells before 1780 for me. I am >>> particularly interested in Robert Bell, born in 1736. Thanks. >>> >>> Ann Myhre >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Ellington <[email protected]> >>> >>> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:57:42 >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Question Re Marriage Records in Orange County >>> >>> >>> Jack, I have a printed copy of the bride & groom indexes for Orange >>> County from 1752-2004. If you will send me a list of the names you are >>> looking for, I will check the indexes. >>> >>> - Richard >>> >>> >>> Jack Ricketts wrote: >>>> I haven't been able to find a listing of this on microfiche. Do you >>>> have >>> the >>>> name or number so I can look it up on familysearch.org? >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> Jack Ricketts >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Martha Gujda >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> Hello Ava, >>>>> >>>>> The LDS church (Mormons) Family HIstory Centers have all the Marriage >>>>> Bonds from N.C. from very early dates. (1752) I found all the >>>>> records >> I >>>>> need from those. They are on Micro-fische and are filed by last name >>>>> of Groom & also by Brides. I understand they got these from the NC >> Archives >>> & >>>>> History Library. So,,,, they should be at the Library in Raleigh. >>>>> Did >>> you >>>>> ask for the assistance of a genealogist who was on duty?? marty >> gujda >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> martydar >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Ava H. Nackman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> From: Ava H. Nackman <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: [NCDOGS] Question Re Marriage Records in Orange County >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 2:25 PM >>>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I recently spent some time at the Register of Deeds on Churton Street >>>>> surveying the marriage records for the county. I noticed that, while >> the >>>>> indexes and volumes holding the oldest records are dated from 1752, I >>> could >>>>> not find a single entry in the 1752-1911 index (I searched about ½ of >> it) >>>>> for a record earlier than 1781. However, there are numerous records >>>>> for 1781 and subsequently. I know that Orange County was originally >>>>> formed >>> in >>>>> 1752. Does anyone know if records were actually being kept from that >>> date >>>>> and all records earlier than 1781 somehow lost or destroyed? Or did >> laws >>>>> change around the 1781 timeframe that resulted in new records being >>>>> kept >>> in >>>>> that year that just weren't collected before then? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Similarly, while marriage bonds (and a rare license or return) did >> appear >>>>> from 1781, the earliest marriage register (with copied returns) that I >>> was >>>>> able to find is dated from 1851. Does anyone know if there are >> registers >>>>> extant for the time period 1781-1850? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I can try to call the NC Archives in Raleigh to find out tomorrow, but >>>>> thought someone in D-OGS who is doing local research might have some >>> idea. >>>>> The OC deputy registrar didn't seem to know. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Ava >>>>> >>>>> ************************* > ---------------------------------------------------- > Gwyneth Duncan Voice: 919-660-5860 > Systems Librarian Fax: 919-684-2855 > Perkins Library Email: [email protected] > Box 90196 > Duke University > Durham, NC 27708-0196 > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------- Gwyneth Duncan Voice: 919-660-5860 Systems Librarian Fax: 919-684-2855 Perkins Library Email: [email protected] Box 90196 Duke University Durham, NC 27708-0196

No, I would look him up on Google and see if you can get a phone number or email that way. I got the books before I even had internet and did it the old fashioned way, through the mail. Of course, I am not certain that he is even still alive, but it is worth a try. Try Amazon as well. As I mentioned, I believe that they have his books at the NC Archives. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doris Saunders Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 1:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION Ava: I am interested in obtaining the books by McLaurin. do you have an e-mail address or phone no.?The Bledsoes from Wake County are connected to my family as well as some in Virginia. Doris> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:01:12 -0500> Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION> > Hi John,> The theory goes that all of the Bledsoes in America descend from one> individual, George Pletsoe, who emigrated from England circa 1652. Don't> know if that is still considered accurate or not, but Banks McLaurin, Jr.> did an extensive study on this family and self published his three books.> They are large soft-covered, spiral-bound volumes, copyrighted 1993 (at> least the first two volumes are). I personally own Volumes I and II, having> purchased them from Mr. McLaurin years ago. His address at that time was> 3843 Royal Crest Drive, Dallas, Texas 75230. I would be happy to let you> have a look at them. I also believe, however, that the NC Archives has the> complete set. I'm not positive about that, but I think I originally> discovered them there. In the intro to volume one, Mr, McLaurin describes> how he traced his ancestry on this line back to Wake Co, NC, in the late> 1700's.> Ava > > -----Original Message-----> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On> Behalf Of John Miller> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:45 AM> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION> > Hi Ava, my name is John Hart Miller and my Hart ancestors lived in > Hillsboro area from abt. 1754/5 - 1837. My wife has a Bledsoe > ancestor and I would like to learn more about the McLaurin book(s) you > mentioned below - do you know who published and where I could locate a > copy? Thanks. John> > > On Dec 13, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Ava H. Nackman wrote:> > > I also have Bledsoes in my family (Ga, from Va). I am assuming that > > you are> > both aware of the three volumes on the Bledsoes written by Banks > > McLaurin?> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: [email protected] [mailto:ncdogs- > > [email protected]] On> > Behalf Of [email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:34 AM> > To: [email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION> >> > Dear Bebe,> >> > Please send more information- I have a good bit of Belvin as well as> > Bledsoe/Bletsoe information.> >> > When you say Nancy Belvin do you mean the Nancy Belvin who married > > Tiller> > Ship or another one?> >> > What are the dates involved?> >> > I cannot get beyond Robert Belvin who married Priscilla Bledsoe . He > > died> > in> > 1782 and she is listed in the 1790 census with 3 slaves. I have > > worked on> > this lines for 30 years. There are some Belvin's in Virginia but I > > have not> > been> > able to connect them.> >> > I look forward to hearing from you.> >> > My husband is Thomas Glenn Belvin from Durham. NC but we have lived in> > Garner for 36 years. We are both 70.> >> > Lynne White Belvin> > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and> > favorite sites in one place. 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Ava: I am interested in obtaining the books by McLaurin. do you have an e-mail address or phone no.?The Bledsoes from Wake County are connected to my family as well as some in Virginia. Doris> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:01:12 -0500> Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION> > Hi John,> The theory goes that all of the Bledsoes in America descend from one> individual, George Pletsoe, who emigrated from England circa 1652. Don't> know if that is still considered accurate or not, but Banks McLaurin, Jr.> did an extensive study on this family and self published his three books.> They are large soft-covered, spiral-bound volumes, copyrighted 1993 (at> least the first two volumes are). I personally own Volumes I and II, having> purchased them from Mr. McLaurin years ago. His address at that time was> 3843 Royal Crest Drive, Dallas, Texas 75230. I would be happy to let you> have a look at them. I also believe, however, that the NC Archives has the> complete set. I'm not positive about that, but I think I originally> discovered them there. In the intro to volume one, Mr, McLaurin describes> how he traced his ancestry on this line back to Wake Co, NC, in the late> 1700's.> Ava > > -----Original Message-----> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On> Behalf Of John Miller> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:45 AM> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION> > Hi Ava, my name is John Hart Miller and my Hart ancestors lived in > Hillsboro area from abt. 1754/5 - 1837. My wife has a Bledsoe > ancestor and I would like to learn more about the McLaurin book(s) you > mentioned below - do you know who published and where I could locate a > copy? Thanks. John> > > On Dec 13, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Ava H. Nackman wrote:> > > I also have Bledsoes in my family (Ga, from Va). I am assuming that > > you are> > both aware of the three volumes on the Bledsoes written by Banks > > McLaurin?> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: [email protected] [mailto:ncdogs- > > [email protected]] On> > Behalf Of [email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:34 AM> > To: [email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION> >> > Dear Bebe,> >> > Please send more information- I have a good bit of Belvin as well as> > Bledsoe/Bletsoe information.> >> > When you say Nancy Belvin do you mean the Nancy Belvin who married > > Tiller> > Ship or another one?> >> > What are the dates involved?> >> > I cannot get beyond Robert Belvin who married Priscilla Bledsoe . He > > died> > in> > 1782 and she is listed in the 1790 census with 3 slaves. I have > > worked on> > this lines for 30 years. There are some Belvin's in Virginia but I > > have not> > been> > able to connect them.> >> > I look forward to hearing from you.> >> > My husband is Thomas Glenn Belvin from Durham. NC but we have lived in> > Garner for 36 years. We are both 70.> >> > Lynne White Belvin> > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and> > favorite sites in one place. Try it now.> >> (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000> > 010)> > *************************> > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/> > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form:> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes> > in the subject and the body of the message> >> > *************************> > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/> > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form:> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message> > *************************> Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/> Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form:> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes> in the subject and the body of the message> > *************************> Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/> Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Suspicious message? There’s an alert for that. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad2_122008

Hi John, The theory goes that all of the Bledsoes in America descend from one individual, George Pletsoe, who emigrated from England circa 1652. Don't know if that is still considered accurate or not, but Banks McLaurin, Jr. did an extensive study on this family and self published his three books. They are large soft-covered, spiral-bound volumes, copyrighted 1993 (at least the first two volumes are). I personally own Volumes I and II, having purchased them from Mr. McLaurin years ago. His address at that time was 3843 Royal Crest Drive, Dallas, Texas 75230. I would be happy to let you have a look at them. I also believe, however, that the NC Archives has the complete set. I'm not positive about that, but I think I originally discovered them there. In the intro to volume one, Mr, McLaurin describes how he traced his ancestry on this line back to Wake Co, NC, in the late 1700's. Ava -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Miller Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION Hi Ava, my name is John Hart Miller and my Hart ancestors lived in Hillsboro area from abt. 1754/5 - 1837. My wife has a Bledsoe ancestor and I would like to learn more about the McLaurin book(s) you mentioned below - do you know who published and where I could locate a copy? Thanks. John On Dec 13, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Ava H. Nackman wrote: > I also have Bledsoes in my family (Ga, from Va). I am assuming that > you are > both aware of the three volumes on the Bledsoes written by Banks > McLaurin? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:ncdogs- > [email protected]] On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION > > Dear Bebe, > > Please send more information- I have a good bit of Belvin as well as > Bledsoe/Bletsoe information. > > When you say Nancy Belvin do you mean the Nancy Belvin who married > Tiller > Ship or another one? > > What are the dates involved? > > I cannot get beyond Robert Belvin who married Priscilla Bledsoe . He > died > in > 1782 and she is listed in the 1790 census with 3 slaves. I have > worked on > this lines for 30 years. There are some Belvin's in Virginia but I > have not > been > able to connect them. > > I look forward to hearing from you. > > My husband is Thomas Glenn Belvin from Durham. NC but we have lived in > Garner for 36 years. We are both 70. > > Lynne White Belvin > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 > 010) > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ava, the oldest Bledsoe ancestor I know about was James Anderson Bledsoe b. abt. 1823, was living in/near Brownsville, KY when his daughter Mary Ellen was born in 12/1857. He moved to Missouri after Civil War began and later to Kingfisher Co., OK. d. abt. 1923. Burried in Kingfisher, OK. Mary Ellen maried a Banks - coincidence? John On Dec 13, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Ava H. Nackman wrote: > Hi John, > The theory goes that all of the Bledsoes in America descend from one > individual, George Pletsoe, who emigrated from England circa 1652. > Don't > know if that is still considered accurate or not, but Banks > McLaurin, Jr. > did an extensive study on this family and self published his three > books. > They are large soft-covered, spiral-bound volumes, copyrighted 1993 > (at > least the first two volumes are). I personally own Volumes I and > II, having > purchased them from Mr. McLaurin years ago. His address at that > time was > 3843 Royal Crest Drive, Dallas, Texas 75230. I would be happy to > let you > have a look at them. I also believe, however, that the NC Archives > has the > complete set. I'm not positive about that, but I think I originally > discovered them there. In the intro to volume one, Mr, McLaurin > describes > how he traced his ancestry on this line back to Wake Co, NC, in the > late > 1700's. > Ava > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:ncdogs- > [email protected]] On > Behalf Of John Miller > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION > > Hi Ava, my name is John Hart Miller and my Hart ancestors lived in > Hillsboro area from abt. 1754/5 - 1837. My wife has a Bledsoe > ancestor and I would like to learn more about the McLaurin book(s) you > mentioned below - do you know who published and where I could locate a > copy? Thanks. John > > > On Dec 13, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Ava H. Nackman wrote: > >> I also have Bledsoes in my family (Ga, from Va). I am assuming that >> you are >> both aware of the three volumes on the Bledsoes written by Banks >> McLaurin? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:ncdogs- >> [email protected]] On >> Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:34 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION >> >> Dear Bebe, >> >> Please send more information- I have a good bit of Belvin as well as >> Bledsoe/Bletsoe information. >> >> When you say Nancy Belvin do you mean the Nancy Belvin who married >> Tiller >> Ship or another one? >> >> What are the dates involved? >> >> I cannot get beyond Robert Belvin who married Priscilla Bledsoe . He >> died >> in >> 1782 and she is listed in the 1790 census with 3 slaves. I have >> worked on >> this lines for 30 years. There are some Belvin's in Virginia but I >> have not >> been >> able to connect them. >> >> I look forward to hearing from you. >> >> My husband is Thomas Glenn Belvin from Durham. NC but we have lived >> in >> Garner for 36 years. We are both 70. >> >> Lynne White Belvin >> **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and >> favorite sites in one place. Try it now. >> > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 >> 010) >> ************************* >> Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ >> Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ************************* >> Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ >> Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ************************* > Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ > Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=newsome&id=I0031 Dear Lynne, Bob's mother, Jessie Johns Newsome, still lives in Durham.  She was the youngest sister of my father, J.B. Johns who was b. in Durham in 1911.  We lived in Chapel Hill as was my mother's neck of the woods since it's erection. In the Tiller Shipp line we are from Candace Dicken Anias Meekin Shipp, WHEW, the baby girl.  She m. John Bunyan Johns from Campbell Co., VA to Wake Co., NC in 1818, first at Crabtree Creek area, had a lead mine, then to Auburn where grew cotton, d. at Civil War period but not due to the war. My maiden name is Johns. Tell me more re your husband's line!!   Best,  Bebe -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 7:33 am Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION Dear Bebe, Please send more information- I have a good bit of Belvin as well as Bledsoe/Bletsoe information. When you say Nancy Belvin do you mean the Nancy Belvin who married Tiller Ship or another one? What are the dates involved? I cannot get beyond Robert Belvin who married Priscilla Bledsoe . He died in 1782 and she is listed in the 1790 census with 3 slaves. I have worked on this lines for 30 years. There are some Belvin's in Virginia but I have not been able to connect them. I look forward to hearing f rom you. My husband is Thomas Glenn Belvin from Durham. NC but we have lived in Garner for 36 years. We are both 70. Lynne White Belvin **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Holcomb's book in new and used form is available for purchase from several sources including: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=holcomb&sortby=2&sts=t& tn=marriages+of+orange+county&x=22&y=5 http://www.amazon.com/Marriages-Orange-County-Carolina-1779-1868/dp/0806 310464 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] Question Re Marriage Records in Orange County According to www.worldcat.org, the closest libraries that have "Marriages of Orange County, North Carolina, 1779-1868", by Brent Holcomb, Publisher: Baltimore: Geneal. Pub. Co., 1983 are: 1. Durham County Library Durham, NC 27702 2. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Chapel Hill, NC 3. Wake County Public Library Raleigh, NC 27610 4. State Library of North Carolina Raleigh, NC 27699 5. Person County Public Library Roxboro, NC 27573 6. Alamance County Public Library Burlington, NC 27215 7. Averett University Danville, VA 24541 8. Greensboro Public Library Greensboro, NC 27402 9. University of N Carolina, Greensboro Greensboro, NC 27402 10. Guilford College Library Greensboro, NC 27410 Some early marriages also appear to be recorded in the following which, according to http://find.library.duke.edu/?type=books&mode=advanced, is at a couple of the Duke University libraries (and apparently on Google Books): "Abstracts of wills recorded in Orange County, North Carolina, 1752-1800 : and (202 marriages not shown in the Orange County marriage bonds) and Abstracts of wills recorded in Orange County, North Carolina, 1800-1850" Author: Daughters of the American Revolution. Davie Poplar Chapter (Chapel Hill, N.C.) Published: Baltimore : Genealogical Pub. Co., 1972. Formats: Book Language: English Online Version Preview this title at Google Book Search Locations: Perkins/Bostock Library -- 929.3 D238A v.1+2 c.1 Law Library -- F262.O7 D32 c.1 . Available According to www.WorldCat.org, it's also at: 1. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Chapel Hill, NC 27514 2. State Library of North Carolina Raleigh, NC 27699 3. Greensboro Public Library Greensboro, NC 27402 Jeff Palmer [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Hollinghurst Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 6:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NCDOGS] Question Re Marriage Records in Orange County Message from Gwyneth Duncan below. Unfortunately, Rootsweb does not allow attachments to newslist messages. I have created a page on the D-OGS website with the information and image: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncdogs/orangecountync/marriage/marriag esof orangecountybook.html Question? What local libraries have this book? Durham County Library? Orange County Library? Chapel Hill Library? Wake County/Olivia Raney Library? Other? When I receive, I will add the location(s) available to the web page above. Thank you Gwyneth. And thanks to all of you for continuing this discussion. Paul ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to www.worldcat.org, the closest libraries that have "Marriages of Orange County, North Carolina, 1779-1868", by Brent Holcomb, Publisher: Baltimore: Geneal. Pub. Co., 1983 are: 1. Durham County Library Durham, NC 27702 2. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Chapel Hill, NC 3. Wake County Public Library Raleigh, NC 27610 4. State Library of North Carolina Raleigh, NC 27699 5. Person County Public Library Roxboro, NC 27573 6. Alamance County Public Library Burlington, NC 27215 7. Averett University Danville, VA 24541 8. Greensboro Public Library Greensboro, NC 27402 9. University of N Carolina, Greensboro Greensboro, NC 27402 10. Guilford College Library Greensboro, NC 27410 Some early marriages also appear to be recorded in the following which, according to http://find.library.duke.edu/?type=books&mode=advanced, is at a couple of the Duke University libraries (and apparently on Google Books): "Abstracts of wills recorded in Orange County, North Carolina, 1752-1800 : and (202 marriages not shown in the Orange County marriage bonds) and Abstracts of wills recorded in Orange County, North Carolina, 1800-1850" Author: Daughters of the American Revolution. Davie Poplar Chapter (Chapel Hill, N.C.) Published: Baltimore : Genealogical Pub. Co., 1972. Formats: Book Language: English Online Version Preview this title at Google Book Search Locations: Perkins/Bostock Library -- 929.3 D238A v.1+2 c.1 Law Library -- F262.O7 D32 c.1 . Available According to www.WorldCat.org, it's also at: 1. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Chapel Hill, NC 27514 2. State Library of North Carolina Raleigh, NC 27699 3. Greensboro Public Library Greensboro, NC 27402 Jeff Palmer [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Hollinghurst Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 6:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NCDOGS] Question Re Marriage Records in Orange County Message from Gwyneth Duncan below. Unfortunately, Rootsweb does not allow attachments to newslist messages. I have created a page on the D-OGS website with the information and image: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncdogs/orangecountync/marriage/marriagesof orangecountybook.html Question? What local libraries have this book? Durham County Library? Orange County Library? Chapel Hill Library? Wake County/Olivia Raney Library? Other? When I receive, I will add the location(s) available to the web page above. Thank you Gwyneth. And thanks to all of you for continuing this discussion. Paul

Hi Lynn....yes, Tiller Ship.  I was b. at Watts Hosp., am also 70!  My cousin, Bob Newsome in Durham can't find the earlier Belvin's either but has had pretty much luck with the Bledsoes, I think. How far can you get back with the Bledsoe family??  Is your husband from Tiller? Bob has his info on Rootsweb but I haven't memorised it. Bebe -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 7:33 am Subject: Re: [NCDOGS] BELVIN QUESTION Dear Bebe, Please send more information- I have a good bit of Belvin as well as Bledsoe/Bletsoe information. When you say Nancy Belvin do you mean the Nancy Belvin who married Tiller Ship or another one? What are the dates involved? I cannot get beyond Robert Belvin who married Priscilla Bledsoe . He died in 1782 and she is listed in the 1790 census with 3 slaves. I have worked on this lines for 30 years. There are some Belvin's in Virginia but I have not been able to connect them. I look forward to hearing from you. My husband is Thomas Glenn Belvin from Durham. NC but we have lived in Garner for 36 years. We are both 70. Lynne White Belvin **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) ************************* Visit the D-OGS web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~n cdogs/ Please post all queries using the D-OGS query form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncdogs/memquery.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message