Doesn't "homicide" simply mean that the actions of one person resulted in another person's death?? It doesn't mean "murder", or "intentional killing". It just means someone else fired the shotgun that killed Mr. Dinsmore.? Probably an accident that happened more frequently than was reported. -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: nccurrit-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Aug 30, 2009 8:37 pm Subject: [NCCURRIT] Harold Pattey Dinsmore - October 1944 searching for newspaper articles of death This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shaslam100 Surnames: Dinsmore Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.currituck/1451/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am searching for any newspaper articles regarding the death of Harold Pattey Dinsmore dated approximately October 22, 1944. According to his death certificate, Harold died in Crawford Township, Coinjock City of a shotgun discharge which was ruled a "homicide". This sounds very strange to me so I would like to try to see what other information might be available concerning the death. Does anyone know what newspaper might have carried the story at the time and/or what local library might have microfilm of those newspapers today? Any help greatly appreciated. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like ! to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCURRIT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Regarding Harold Dinsmore request I have no information about Mr. Dinsmore's death other than what you already have. Newspapers would include the Daily Advance in Elizabeth City, NC (don't know if it was operating in 1944) and the Dare County Times of Manteo, NC. I am assuming the D C Times is what is now known as the Coastland Times in Manteo. Another newspaper that could have carried that story would be the Virginian Pilot in Norfolk, VA. Hope this helps. Would Mr. Dinsmore have been a hunter sportsman? Many men came to the area to hunt ducks and geese. M. Hurst

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shaslam100 Surnames: Dinsmore Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.currituck/1451/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am searching for any newspaper articles regarding the death of Harold Pattey Dinsmore dated approximately October 22, 1944. According to his death certificate, Harold died in Crawford Township, Coinjock City of a shotgun discharge which was ruled a "homicide". This sounds very strange to me so I would like to try to see what other information might be available concerning the death. Does anyone know what newspaper might have carried the story at the time and/or what local library might have microfilm of those newspapers today? Any help greatly appreciated. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have Timothy Bateman Gilbert the son of Benjamin Gilbert and Nancy Bateman. His older half-sister, Marcella Gilbert married Joseph Scott and they bought property in Moyock ca 1857 after moving from Perquimans Co to Norfolk County. Marcella's brother Jefferson Gilbert also lived in Moyock before moving on to Lower Norfolk so there were relative he could have been living with. Benjamin Gilbert 2nd marriage was to Nancy Bateman and they only had the one child. The interesting thing is Jefferson Gilbert (Benjamin Gilbert) married Lavenia Bateman who is Nancy's sister. I could never locate Timothy on the 1850 but his half brother, George Washington Gilbert, was living with his brother Jefferson. I believe Nancy must have died before 1850 and he was living with a relative, maybe even Jefferson. I have quite a bit of information on the Gilberts as Marcella was my great-great grandmother. You can contact me at jkastevenson@msn.com -----Original Message----- From: nccurrit-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nccurrit-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of oscar1945@cox.net Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:25 PM To: NCCURRIT@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCCURRIT] Timothy Gilbert Looking for information regarding Timothy Gilbert (b. 1834), who migrated with several relatives (GW, Lafayette) from Pasquotank/Perquimans County, NC to Lower Norfolk County, VA. Married Mariah Walker of Moyock, somewhere along the way - don't know why or how they hooked up. Any help will be appreciated. Have found Timothy Gilbert (presumably a cousin) who was born in 1843 in the same area. His descendants are now in Texas. Oscar Gilbert ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCURRIT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for information regarding Timothy Gilbert (b. 1834), who migrated with several relatives (GW, Lafayette) from Pasquotank/Perquimans County, NC to Lower Norfolk County, VA. Married Mariah Walker of Moyock, somewhere along the way - don't know why or how they hooked up. Any help will be appreciated. Have found Timothy Gilbert (presumably a cousin) who was born in 1843 in the same area. His descendants are now in Texas. Oscar Gilbert

Thanks, Julia, That is an earlier mary but probably a relative. Thanks for the reply, Dick Hamly -----Original Message----- From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com To: nccurrit@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:03 pm Subject: Re: [NCCURRIT] Fwd: Jarvis, Woodhouse Hi Dick, I am not certain which Thomas, Jr. you mean. However, the only data that I have on any Mary Jarvis is Mary, daughter of Thomas Jarvis who died in 1762. That Mary married a Tillett and she died in 1808. She was the Guardian of the orphans of Alexander LeGrand Whitehall. Julia In a message dated 8/22/2009 2:39:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dickhamly@aol.com writes: Julia French Wood, Do you know?if the father?of Mary Jarvis (who married Thomas P. Mercer about 1857) might be?Thomas Jarvis Jr?? ?He had a minor daughter who could have been her and?he?lived in Powells Point.? Thanks, Dick Hamly -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: nccurrit-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Aug 16, 2009 9:40 am Subject: Re: [NCCURRIT] Jarvis, Woodhouse This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JJFrenchWood Surnames: Jarvis, Woodhouse, Lindsey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.count ies.currituck/55.64.307/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jonathan Javis, whose daughter, Susanah married Daniel Lindsey was not a son of Foster Jarvis, but rather, he was a son of Richard Jaris m. Dinah Woodhouse. Richard died before 1717 when Jonathan was listed as an orphan and claimed Richard's land. Jonathan Jarvis, the son of Foster never married nor had children. Julia French Wood A descendant of Daniel Burfoot Lindsey who moved to MS. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCURRIT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCURRI T-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCURRIT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dick, I am not certain which Thomas, Jr. you mean. However, the only data that I have on any Mary Jarvis is Mary, daughter of Thomas Jarvis who died in 1762. That Mary married a Tillett and she died in 1808. She was the Guardian of the orphans of Alexander LeGrand Whitehall. Julia In a message dated 8/22/2009 2:39:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dickhamly@aol.com writes: Julia French Wood, Do you know?if the father?of Mary Jarvis (who married Thomas P. Mercer about 1857) might be?Thomas Jarvis Jr?? ?He had a minor daughter who could have been her and?he?lived in Powells Point.? Thanks, Dick Hamly -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: nccurrit-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Aug 16, 2009 9:40 am Subject: Re: [NCCURRIT] Jarvis, Woodhouse This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JJFrenchWood Surnames: Jarvis, Woodhouse, Lindsey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.count ies.currituck/55.64.307/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jonathan Javis, whose daughter, Susanah married Daniel Lindsey was not a son of Foster Jarvis, but rather, he was a son of Richard Jaris m. Dinah Woodhouse. Richard died before 1717 when Jonathan was listed as an orphan and claimed Richard's land. Jonathan Jarvis, the son of Foster never married nor had children. Julia French Wood A descendant of Daniel Burfoot Lindsey who moved to MS. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCURRIT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCURRIT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Julia French Wood, Do you know?if the father?of Mary Jarvis (who married Thomas P. Mercer about 1857) might be?Thomas Jarvis Jr?? ?He had a minor daughter who could have been her and?he?lived in Powells Point.? Thanks, Dick Hamly -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: nccurrit-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Aug 16, 2009 9:40 am Subject: Re: [NCCURRIT] Jarvis, Woodhouse This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JJFrenchWood Surnames: Jarvis, Woodhouse, Lindsey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.currituck/55.64.307/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jonathan Javis, whose daughter, Susanah married Daniel Lindsey was not a son of Foster Jarvis, but rather, he was a son of Richard Jaris m. Dinah Woodhouse. Richard died before 1717 when Jonathan was listed as an orphan and claimed Richard's land. Jonathan Jarvis, the son of Foster never married nor had children. Julia French Wood A descendant of Daniel Burfoot Lindsey who moved to MS. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCURRIT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JJFrenchWood Surnames: Jarvis Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.currituck/55.64.307.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Of course, I meant Richard JARVIS. Julia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JJFrenchWood Surnames: Jarvis, Woodhouse, Lindsey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.currituck/55.64.307/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jonathan Javis, whose daughter, Susanah married Daniel Lindsey was not a son of Foster Jarvis, but rather, he was a son of Richard Jaris m. Dinah Woodhouse. Richard died before 1717 when Jonathan was listed as an orphan and claimed Richard's land. Jonathan Jarvis, the son of Foster never married nor had children. Julia French Wood A descendant of Daniel Burfoot Lindsey who moved to MS. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: glgwlane Surnames: Melson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.currituck/1450/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have some childrens' pictures that most likely came from Currituck County NC. My husband's family lived in the Coinjock area during 1900 to 1930 time period. On the back of the picture/pictures is written Mrs. Arthur Melson. they are not our relations that I know of and I would like to pass these on to the proper relatives. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

There 87 people attending and lot of good old timey. finger licking, food and lots of tall stories and family fellowship. We had many new people this year in the King families, Ramsey families, Casady families and the Gregory and Fairchild families. Viola Betty Cassity Ramsey Gregory was the oldest attending 89, She will be 90 October 14 2009 Her Nephew Bailey Clemons King was next Oldest attending 84. He will be 85 December 19 2009 Beil has several children and grandchildren attending. The Youngest attending was my granddaughter Kalleigh Jo Fairchild 19 months, 2 December 05 2009 Mike and Christy Ewing Fairchild attended with Jennifer Rose and Mike Jr. Greg Fairchild and Kimberly Ann Fairchild attended with Aaron, Keeley and Kalleigh Jo. Also attending again this year was Kim's mother Patti Hale Turner and Her intended Don Elliott. Patti and I are best friends and we go to Madi Gras and other places together. Sandra King Elrod attended for the 1st and gave us her mothers fruit salad recipe and will be published in our newsletters Her Father Raymond Carlos King attended the 06/2007 Reunion and Later that fall he was hit by acr not yeilding a stop sign in Auburn, Logan, KY. Nell King Martin Dooley attending with her 2 children and a daughter in law. Martha Mae King Martin attended with her husband Curtis Martin King and their son and wife. William Henry Hughes was attending and a Nephew of Viola Cassity Ramsey Gregory and he was 75. 04/2009. He is the son of John And Hester Cassity Hughes. New attending were Kenny and Linda Zumbro Brazzell Great Granddaughter of William Jefferson Hughes. Grand Parents George and Nell Hughes Holland and Parents were Jewell and Marie Hollan Zumbro. We also had 1st timers Pat Hughes Scott and Elizabeth Hughes Gregory Petty. They are the Children of Wert and Ruby Hughes. They are also the great grandchildren of William Jefferson Hughes and Margaret Duke Hughes. Yhe Ramsey family was there also. My brother Wayne and wife Mary Jean Fuqua Ramsey. Gary Jenkins 1st time in attending provided us with the Jenkins and Cassity connections. and We also had Stacie Casady and we connected her great grandfather William Beford Casady with my Great Grandfather Mart C Cassetty. I have been in touch with Glen Casada, House of Representative of Tennessee and his Great Grandfather Henry Thomas Casada is the brother to Mart and William. Stacie and I plan on attending the Cassidy Clan meeting in Devenish, Fermanagh, Ireland. Anyone wanting to go we will try to get a group rate. The more the cheeper it will be to go. I now have 3269 names in my Cassity etc spelling file. I will galdly help anyone with their research. Please join our reunion mailing list for updates on births, deaths and marriages and other events. I will be publishing my findings in December 2009 however there will additions each year. God Bless and Thanks to all for making this the best reunion ever We will be having the next reunion 07/17/2010 Schochoh Community Center, Logan County, Kentucky 3720 Schochoh Road. 10 am to 4 pm Jeannie I want to say a special thank you to Linda Brazzell for all the time spent in researching and her assitance in getting the Data and Pictures and many endless hours on cemetery and other works she has done for the family trees. Not only her line but all of our lines. She has restored many pictures that are now enhanced so we can view them much better. THANK YOU LINDAS BRAZZELL Come an join our newsletter email list at reunionmailinglist@yahoo.com Come an join our newsletter email list at reunionmailinglist@yahoo.com Here are a few of the surnames Cassity, Climer, Fairchild, Gregory, Hughes, Kirby, Sircy, Ramsey, Thomas and Young Any spelling or these names. We have a lot of other surnames cannot list them all., Happiness keeps You Sweet, Trials keep You Strong, Sorrows keep You Human, Failures keeps You Humble, Success keeps You Glowing, But Only God keeps You Going! ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: egor194 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.currituck/1449.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The only other thing I found was that Samuel P. Scott was son of William Copeland Scott and Mary E. William C. born Aug.18,1802 and died Nov.22,1880 buried at Emauel Episcopal Church in Va.Beach,Va this church may be in Kemmpsville Section of Va.Beach. His wife Mary E. born 1806 died ? is on 1880 census. If there is is anyway to contact church they may have records on other Scotts Buried their. Good Luck Jack Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hey, if anyone happens to know an Ansell family who lived at Knotts Island in the 1970s, I am looking for Terry Ansell with whom I graduated High School in 1976. I think he was going to Wake Forest for college. Any leads would be very appreciated! Carolyn Chappell Nelson ----- Original Message ----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com To: nccurrit-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 12:16:01 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [NCCURRIT] Samuel P. Scott - Sarah Ansell This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: silkberry Surnames: Barrett, Scott, Ansell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.currituck/1449.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jack - Thanks for your reply. Samuel P. Scott was my great great grandfather so my main interest is the Scott line. However, after his 1st wife, Julia died (have no record on exact date or where she is buried)he must have needed someone to help with the 3 youngest children (Lenora,Samuel, David) Did know that Samuel & David went to live with the Barrett family (Chloe & Thomas), but unclear if they were related. Lenora went to live with other relatives and shortly thereafter married. I know the 1880 census says they were related, but I think somewhere there must be more exact info. Samuel & Julia's 3 oldest children (Mary, Thomas, Henry)seemed to have disappeared and may have died.Wife #2, Sarah, would have been fairly young, and it appears Samuel P. Scott and Sarah Ansell were married 1872-1878 (when he died)Perhaps someone researching the Ansell line, especially on Knotts Island, may know of any children they may have had. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCURRIT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: silkberry Surnames: Barrett, Scott, Ansell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.currituck/1449.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jack - Thanks for your reply. Samuel P. Scott was my great great grandfather so my main interest is the Scott line. However, after his 1st wife, Julia died (have no record on exact date or where she is buried)he must have needed someone to help with the 3 youngest children (Lenora,Samuel, David) Did know that Samuel & David went to live with the Barrett family (Chloe & Thomas), but unclear if they were related. Lenora went to live with other relatives and shortly thereafter married. I know the 1880 census says they were related, but I think somewhere there must be more exact info. Samuel & Julia's 3 oldest children (Mary, Thomas, Henry)seemed to have disappeared and may have died.Wife #2, Sarah, would have been fairly young, and it appears Samuel P. Scott and Sarah Ansell were married 1872-1878 (when he died)Perhaps someone researching the Ansell line, especially on Knotts Island, may know of any children they may have had. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

still lives on Knotts Island ----- Original Message ----- From: "CarolynChappellNelson" <moreancestors@comcast.net> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <nccurrit@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 3:11 PM Subject: [NCCURRIT] Ansells of Knotts Island > Hey, if anyone happens to know an Ansell family who lived at Knotts Island > in the 1970s, I am looking for Terry Ansell with whom I graduated High > School in 1976. I think he was going to Wake Forest for college. Any leads > would be very appreciated! > Carolyn Chappell Nelson > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > To: nccurrit-l@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 12:16:01 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [NCCURRIT] Samuel P. Scott - Sarah Ansell > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: silkberry > Surnames: Barrett, Scott, Ansell > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.currituck/1449.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Jack - Thanks for your reply. Samuel P. Scott was my great great > grandfather so my main interest is the Scott line. However, after his 1st > wife, Julia died (have no record on exact date or where she is buried)he > must have needed someone to help with the 3 youngest children > (Lenora,Samuel, David) Did know that Samuel & David went to live with the > Barrett family (Chloe & Thomas), but unclear if they were related. Lenora > went to live with other relatives and shortly thereafter married. I know > the 1880 census says they were related, but I think somewhere there must > be more exact info. Samuel & Julia's 3 oldest children (Mary, Thomas, > Henry)seemed to have disappeared and may have died.Wife #2, Sarah, would > have been fairly young, and it appears Samuel P. Scott and Sarah Ansell > were married 1872-1878 (when he died)Perhaps someone researching the > Ansell line, especially on Knotts Island, may know of any children they > may have had. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCCURRIT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCCURRIT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: egor194 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.currituck/1449.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello If I understand your Post you want to know if Samuel P. Scott and Sarah Ansell had any children I could not find any. I found Three of the Eight she had with George W. Ansell. On the 1880 census I found two of Samuel P. and Julia R. kids living with Thomas and Cloe Barret listed as Nephew they were Samuel Scott born July 1870 and David R.born Oct. 1871 in Currituck County. I Hope this helps Jack Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: silkberry Surnames: Scott, Ansell, Roberts Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.currituck/1449/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Seeking info on Sarah Ansell (1853-aft 1910) who married #1 Samuel P. Scott (1830-1878) in 1872 and #2 George Washington Ansell(1854-aft 1910)in 1880, both in Currituck. Did she have any children by #1? 1910 census (Princess Anne Co, VA) shows she had total of 8 children with 4 living (at that time). Samuel P. Scott's first wife was Julia Roberts/Robinson who appears to have died after birth of last child, David Robert Scott (1871-1935) Last info found on Julia was 1870 census (family living in Pungo, VA.) Thanks! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: foots49 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.currituck/1433.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Duane, This is kind of long, but it will give you a good idea of why I am now asking questions about this line. My original information came from my family, Margaret Cooper, daughter of John Cooper and Esther Fletcher is my 3rd Great-Grandmother by her marriage to Samuel Walker West. My maternal grandmother was a Bentley/West. This information was back up from information in the book: Our Heritage as it Glows from the West, by Mary West Riggs and Roy A. West. Page 8 of Our Heritage states that Margaret wrote: "Esther Fletcher (my mother) was the daughter of Robert Fletcher, and Lydia, of Currutuck County, Virginia. Robert Fletcher's father and mother were from England. His mother's name was Margaret, and she was called a wise woman." "Esther Fletcher was brought up by her grandmother. She was left an orphan when very young. Early in her life her grandmother and principal friend died. She moved to Halifax, North Carolina, where she married John Cooper. They soon moved to Tennessee to take over the claim of land, 1,000 acres, which fell to Esther by heirship, from her Uncle William's estate. It was given to her uncle by the United States Government for valiant and faithful service in the Revolutionary War. When Esther came to her estate, she found it improved by a man who claimed it under the Squatters Right, therefore a law suit came on. She was about to lose her claim when it flashed through her mind that she had seen a clause in a law book that would save her. She ran up in the garret, got the book, found the point, and showed it to her lawyer. Because of this, she gained her rights." I then went to the LDS Family History Center and that is where I found, what I felt at the time was good information, that someone had submitted that Lydia's last name was Williams. This was about 1990. Then came the problem - the information that I had showed that Samuel Walker West was the son of John West and Sarah Walker. That John West was the son of: Isaac West and Susanna/Mary Anderson, Isaac was the son of: William West and Sarah Cropper, William was the son of: John West and Sarah Pearson, John was the son of: Thomas West and Ann Gilpin, son of: William West and Elizabeth In Oct 2008 I discovered that from William West and Sarah Cropper, back, that the research and information provided to the church was wrong for Isaac's line, not the first time that I found this. This is base on the book: Our Kindred, The McFarlan and Stern Families, Chester County, Pa., And New Castle County, Del, In Two Parts. First Part, The McFarlan and Heald Chronicle, Ancestral and Genealogical. Second Part, The Stern and West Record, Ancestry and Genealogy. By Cyrus Stern. Edited By Lizzie M. Marshall. Introduction By Jacob Taggart Stern. 1885.(Found at http://books.google.com/books?id=FzI3AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA81&dq=de la Warr Chester County Pennsylvania&lr=&ei=uzbhSI-ZKoz6jgHsmLCiCw#PPA81,M1) as well as emails between me and Lisa West Savage as well as Dennis West at Kentucky U, West DNA project, http://web.utk.edu/~corn/westdna/ I was provided a link in an email from Lisa West Savage to Isaac West and Susanna/Mary Anderson (have never seen her called Mary) that shows John is the son of them and that he is the father of Samuel Walker. That site (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=hrndr&id=I664) list Deeds in Dickson Co. & Court Minutes that were used extensively. (the book also references Dickson Co. TN) This site states that Isaac's parents are a John West and Mary Madden, but there is no link to John West. There is a link to Mary Madden. There is a statement that reads: "I accept Blodwen West Boyle's research who places Isaac the son of John and Mary Madden because there are two grandchildren who are named Madden: Isaac West Jr. & Hannah Russell had son named Madden b. in 1811 & Anderson West & Celia Tubbs had a son named Absolom Madden West. This is convincing proof to Lilia Smith Seegmiller." I am in the process of finding and reviewing the book: "Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy", but the only volume I found was Vol. IV, for Ohio. I also found out that I need Vol. I for NC and includes TN, SC and part of VA. I might also need Vol. II for PA and NJ. For now, based on the fact that I no longer feel that there is a link between Isaac and William West and Sarah Cropper, I have deleted the link between them, but have left William West and Sarah Cropper lines in the database as our line still could feed back into this line. It could also feed into the line of Thomas West, 3rd (or 12th) Baron De La Warr (July 9, 1577 - June 7, 1618); but at what point in time???? I have entered information on what I now feel is Isaac's true parents, John West and Mary Madden. So in the long run I am not sure that Williams is Lydia last name. I am thinking that someone mistook her uncle's first name for a last name. I have just recently uploaded my family tree onto Ancestry.com. I just took a look at Lidia record and noticed that 10 different people are working on her line that have posted information, all have Williams as her last name. I will have to take the time and contact them to see what they have for proof. my email is: dcraw1 @ tampabay.rr.com (delete spaces) Thanks for any help on this line. Dan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: myduane2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.currituck/1433.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have some information on Esther Fletcher and her husband John Cooper, and her parents, Robert and Lydia Fletcher. Do you have any proof that Lydia's maiden name is Williams? Duane Johnson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.