Sounds like you have an exciting life! My son is stationed at Ft Hood and loves it out there. Says he has switched his statehood status to Texas. Anyway you only need to get one son tested, all will have the same Y DNA provided they have the same father. The Y DNA is pass father to son then to his son almost unchanged. It does change sometimes but it is so slow that they can determine families for generations from it. During my service (over 23 years) in the military I was exposed to Agent Orange and nuclear material and I wonder sometime if my DNA might have been changed by it. I would like for others in my family to test to see if they are direct matches to me due to that reason. It can be a lot of fun but it can be very frustrating at the same time. Good look in your work and with your DNA journey. Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Lee Streckfuss" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > Mac, It will be a while before I can get into this a bit more. Had time > yesterday afternoon and went to the genealogy library downtown Houston but > didn't have a lot of time to delve into new stuff. I am one of those > crazy people that aren't happy unless they are involved in about 6 things > at once. Okay until they all converge into a quagmire. I am a Texas > Silver-Haired Legislator and our State Legislature has only until March 9 > to file all Bills. I have two legislations regarding seniors that I > personally wrote and several others that come from our Silver-Haired > delegates....we must go to Austin and push for them. Senior Day is the > Capitol is Feb 13th and the night before the Silver-haired Leg. are having > a reception with the Governor, so with the other things it is a busy time. > I fit family research here and there as I can. I am a Daughter of the > American Revolution through my Mason line, Nash County...and our State > Congress is middle of March and I am an alternate ! > to that. > My dad was one of 5 brothers and all of them are gone...I have two sons, > and assume that they have the correct DNA material for testing??? I will > persuade one of them...probably the one who is a Son of Confederate > Veterans to cooperate, the other is more interested in other > things..."like the living, Mom". Thank you for answering, maybe we have a > link. Betty S > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gilbert Ray<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:27 PM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > Hi Betty, Sorry about the delay in replying. I'm not sure if we're > connected or not. I'm actually related to two Ray families in NC. One > on > my gggrandmothers side is from Robeson county NC. Her husband my > gggrandfather moved to Cheraw SC in the 1830's or 40's but died soon > after > and his wife Ann Ray Ray moved back to NC after his death. The only way > to > check actual connections is through the DNA test but it has to be a Male > Ray > descendent. The female will not carry the Y chromosome that they use to > do > the tracing. It is passed male to male to male only in a straight line > and > is a small portion of the DNA that we all carry. I go by Mac. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty Lee Streckfuss" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:22 PM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > Gilbert, Have I asked you if you are connected to Louis Hamilton Ray b. > > 1808? He married Mary "Polly" Moses and they moved from S.C. to > > Mississippi and their children were: John, Nathan, Nancy, Elizabeth (my > > ancestor who married John Robuck then my line..John Mason) Rebecca, > > Nathan, Francisco. Elizabeth and her sister Rebecca married brothers > > Elizabeth who married my John Mason and Rebecca married Daniel Mason. > > They must have been great friends, the men were in the same Itawamba > Ms. > > Masonic Lodge, moved to Alabama together where John died and Elizabeth > > continued to live next door to Daniel and Rebecca, their sister > Elizabeth > > Mason was also living with them in Alabama. John was my GrGrGranddad. > > Betty > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gilbert Ray<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > To: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > > > Neal, If you're wanting the male side of your DNA I've already had it > > done > > and will be glad to share it with you. Otherwise there are several > > companies that will do that. One is Family Tree DNA at > > > www.familytreedna.com<http://www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com%3chttp//www.familytreedna.com/>> > where I had mine > > done. Mac > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> > > To: > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > > > > How do you get the DNA done? > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > with > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mac, We have several retired military Silver-Haired Legislators...most retired as Col...no Generals but I think we have an Admiral that doesn't talk about it. My husband is a retired Virologist and was with a MASH unit in Korea...we went back 5-6 years ago. Wonderful experience! Have a grandson with a BlackHawk unit...he is maintenance crewman. His Dad is a retired Commander, Navy Air. We have all sorts except submarines. I have a question on DNA...does sample have to come from Son of a Son of the line? My husband is not the Ray line, in fact he is from a well known German family who has only been here since 1848 but has a full written history back to Charlemagne. Proven records, journals etc. because of priests and philosophers in his family, lucky man. My early ancestors were Masons in Isle of Wight about 1640, fortunately they could write which got them tax jobs and juror positions...helps a lot when you can track those records. I'm working on my other NC lines now...Ray and Watts and maybe an Arrington connection. I have male cousins who are descended from my Dads brothers so they may be the key, also a cousin in GA (retired military too) who is Ray line and he might have testing. So many tasks and so little time....Thanks for your info and continued sharing. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: Gilbert Ray<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? Sounds like you have an exciting life! My son is stationed at Ft Hood and loves it out there. Says he has switched his statehood status to Texas. Anyway you only need to get one son tested, all will have the same Y DNA provided they have the same father. The Y DNA is pass father to son then to his son almost unchanged. It does change sometimes but it is so slow that they can determine families for generations from it. During my service (over 23 years) in the military I was exposed to Agent Orange and nuclear material and I wonder sometime if my DNA might have been changed by it. I would like for others in my family to test to see if they are direct matches to me due to that reason. It can be a lot of fun but it can be very frustrating at the same time. Good look in your work and with your DNA journey. Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Lee Streckfuss" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > Mac, It will be a while before I can get into this a bit more. Had time > yesterday afternoon and went to the genealogy library downtown Houston but > didn't have a lot of time to delve into new stuff. I am one of those > crazy people that aren't happy unless they are involved in about 6 things > at once. Okay until they all converge into a quagmire. I am a Texas > Silver-Haired Legislator and our State Legislature has only until March 9 > to file all Bills. I have two legislations regarding seniors that I > personally wrote and several others that come from our Silver-Haired > delegates....we must go to Austin and push for them. Senior Day is the > Capitol is Feb 13th and the night before the Silver-haired Leg. are having > a reception with the Governor, so with the other things it is a busy time. > I fit family research here and there as I can. I am a Daughter of the > American Revolution through my Mason line, Nash County...and our State > Congress is middle of March and I am an alternate ! > to that. > My dad was one of 5 brothers and all of them are gone...I have two sons, > and assume that they have the correct DNA material for testing??? I will > persuade one of them...probably the one who is a Son of Confederate > Veterans to cooperate, the other is more interested in other > things..."like the living, Mom". Thank you for answering, maybe we have a > link. Betty S > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gilbert Ray<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:27 PM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > Hi Betty, Sorry about the delay in replying. I'm not sure if we're > connected or not. I'm actually related to two Ray families in NC. One > on > my gggrandmothers side is from Robeson county NC. Her husband my > gggrandfather moved to Cheraw SC in the 1830's or 40's but died soon > after > and his wife Ann Ray Ray moved back to NC after his death. The only way > to > check actual connections is through the DNA test but it has to be a Male > Ray > descendent. The female will not carry the Y chromosome that they use to > do > the tracing. It is passed male to male to male only in a straight line > and > is a small portion of the DNA that we all carry. I go by Mac. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty Lee Streckfuss" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:22 PM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > Gilbert, Have I asked you if you are connected to Louis Hamilton Ray b. > > 1808? He married Mary "Polly" Moses and they moved from S.C. to > > Mississippi and their children were: John, Nathan, Nancy, Elizabeth (my > > ancestor who married John Robuck then my line..John Mason) Rebecca, > > Nathan, Francisco. Elizabeth and her sister Rebecca married brothers > > Elizabeth who married my John Mason and Rebecca married Daniel Mason. > > They must have been great friends, the men were in the same Itawamba > Ms. > > Masonic Lodge, moved to Alabama together where John died and Elizabeth > > continued to live next door to Daniel and Rebecca, their sister > Elizabeth > > Mason was also living with them in Alabama. John was my GrGrGranddad. > > Betty > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gilbert Ray<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > > To: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > > > Neal, If you're wanting the male side of your DNA I've already had it > > done > > and will be glad to share it with you. Otherwise there are several > > companies that will do that. One is Family Tree DNA at > > > www.familytreedna.com<http://www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com%3chttp//www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com<http://www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com<http//www.familytreedna.com/>>> > where I had mine > > done. Mac > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>> > > To: > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > > > > How do you get the DNA done? > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > with > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The sample would have to come from a direct descendent in your Ray line. I think it's great that you husband can trace his ancestry so far back. I can only trace my Ray ancestor to the late 1700's. It seems they didn't really care much about keeping genealogy records once they got here to the US. I'm not really sure if the name was Ray in Scotland. It could have been Darrach or McIlreach or could have been something completely different. Keep searching, maybe if you have one of your Ray relative do the DNA search we'll be connected. Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Lee Streckfuss" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > Mac, We have several retired military Silver-Haired Legislators...most > retired as Col...no Generals but I think we have an Admiral that doesn't > talk about it. My husband is a retired Virologist and was with a MASH > unit in Korea...we went back 5-6 years ago. Wonderful experience! Have a > grandson with a BlackHawk unit...he is maintenance crewman. His Dad is a > retired Commander, Navy Air. We have all sorts except submarines. I have > a question on DNA...does sample have to come from Son of a Son of the > line? My husband is not the Ray line, in fact he is from a well known > German family who has only been here since 1848 but has a full written > history back to Charlemagne. Proven records, journals etc. because of > priests and philosophers in his family, lucky man. My early ancestors > were Masons in Isle of Wight about 1640, fortunately they could write > which got them tax jobs and juror positions...helps a lot when you can > track those records. I'm working on my other NC lines ! > now...Ray and Watts and maybe an Arrington connection. I have male > cousins who are descended from my Dads brothers so they may be the key, > also a cousin in GA (retired military too) who is Ray line and he might > have testing. So many tasks and so little time....Thanks for your info > and continued sharing. Betty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gilbert Ray<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:05 AM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > Sounds like you have an exciting life! My son is stationed at Ft Hood and > loves it out there. Says he has switched his statehood status to Texas. > Anyway you only need to get one son tested, all will have the same Y DNA > provided they have the same father. The Y DNA is pass father to son then > to > his son almost unchanged. It does change sometimes but it is so slow > that > they can determine families for generations from it. During my service > (over 23 years) in the military I was exposed to Agent Orange and nuclear > material and I wonder sometime if my DNA might have been changed by it. > I > would like for others in my family to test to see if they are direct > matches > to me due to that reason. It can be a lot of fun but it can be very > frustrating at the same time. Good look in your work and with your DNA > journey. Mac > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty Lee Streckfuss" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:45 PM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > Mac, It will be a while before I can get into this a bit more. Had > time > > yesterday afternoon and went to the genealogy library downtown Houston > but > > didn't have a lot of time to delve into new stuff. I am one of those > > crazy people that aren't happy unless they are involved in about 6 > things > > at once. Okay until they all converge into a quagmire. I am a Texas > > Silver-Haired Legislator and our State Legislature has only until March > 9 > > to file all Bills. I have two legislations regarding seniors that I > > personally wrote and several others that come from our Silver-Haired > > delegates....we must go to Austin and push for them. Senior Day is the > > Capitol is Feb 13th and the night before the Silver-haired Leg. are > having > > a reception with the Governor, so with the other things it is a busy > time. > > I fit family research here and there as I can. I am a Daughter of the > > American Revolution through my Mason line, Nash County...and our State > > Congress is middle of March and I am an alternate ! > > to that. > > My dad was one of 5 brothers and all of them are gone...I have two > sons, > > and assume that they have the correct DNA material for testing??? I > will > > persuade one of them...probably the one who is a Son of Confederate > > Veterans to cooperate, the other is more interested in other > > things..."like the living, Mom". Thank you for answering, maybe we > have a > > link. Betty S > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gilbert Ray<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > To: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > > > Hi Betty, Sorry about the delay in replying. I'm not sure if we're > > connected or not. I'm actually related to two Ray families in NC. > One > > on > > my gggrandmothers side is from Robeson county NC. Her husband my > > gggrandfather moved to Cheraw SC in the 1830's or 40's but died soon > > after > > and his wife Ann Ray Ray moved back to NC after his death. The only > way > > to > > check actual connections is through the DNA test but it has to be a > Male > > Ray > > descendent. The female will not carry the Y chromosome that they use > to > > do > > the tracing. It is passed male to male to male only in a straight > line > > and > > is a small portion of the DNA that we all carry. I go by Mac. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Betty Lee Streckfuss" > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > > To: > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > > > > Gilbert, Have I asked you if you are connected to Louis Hamilton Ray > b. > > > 1808? He married Mary "Polly" Moses and they moved from S.C. to > > > Mississippi and their children were: John, Nathan, Nancy, Elizabeth > (my > > > ancestor who married John Robuck then my line..John Mason) Rebecca, > > > Nathan, Francisco. Elizabeth and her sister Rebecca married > brothers > > > Elizabeth who married my John Mason and Rebecca married Daniel > Mason. > > > They must have been great friends, the men were in the same Itawamba > > Ms. > > > Masonic Lodge, moved to Alabama together where John died and > Elizabeth > > > continued to live next door to Daniel and Rebecca, their sister > > Elizabeth > > > Mason was also living with them in Alabama. John was my > GrGrGranddad. > > > Betty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Gilbert > Ray<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > > > To: > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:46 PM > > > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > > > > > > Neal, If you're wanting the male side of your DNA I've already had > it > > > done > > > and will be glad to share it with you. Otherwise there are several > > > companies that will do that. One is Family Tree DNA at > > > > > > www.familytreedna.com<http://www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com%3chttp//www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com<http://www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com<http//www.familytreedna.com/>>> > > where I had mine > > > done. Mac > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>> > > > To: > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:51 PM > > > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > > > > > > > How do you get the DNA done? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > > with > > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of > > > the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > with > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message