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    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] oh no 10:25 I am missing House- bye
    2. Harriet Lovick
    3. You have a WEALTH of information!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING WITH US ALL!! Harriet Lovick Harriet Lovick Administration and Finance Southern Regional AHEC 1601 Owen Drive Fayetteville, NC 28304 910-678-7228 910-678-7279 Fax Fayetteville, NC 28304 >>> On 2/2/2007 at 10:26 PM, in message <cf7.8b26075.32f55aeb@aol.com>, <HEW4010@aol.com> wrote: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************************************************ The information contained in this e-mail message is Legally Privileged and Confidential Information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify us by telephone (910 678-7273) or e-mail so we may correct our e-mail addressing error and then please destroy the original message. ************************************************************************ ************************************************************************ The information contained in this e-mail message is Legally Privileged and Confidential Information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify us by telephone (910 678-7273) or e-mail so we may correct our e-mail addressing error and then please destroy the original message. ************************************************************************

    02/05/2007 01:20:44
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] Hubbards
    2. Beverly Godfrey
    3. Blake, I am very interested in the page. Please tell Bess hello for me - we met in NC Archives years ago and exchanged information at a Coonie Hubbard reunion in Stedman. I'm thrilled to hear about her successes - please tell her congratulations for me! Since I am an on-again/off-again researcher I'm very interested in what she has found! Beverly Hubbard Godfrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blake Tyner" <blake@bbtyner.com> To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 8:11 PM Subject: [NCCUMBER] Hubbards > > > For anyone interested in the Hubbards from Cumberland County I have set > up a page on John Harold Hubbard (first one in NC) and a page on his wife > Mary Talbot. > > My wife has taken his line back 9 generations(all that is in FamilyTree > Maker currently) and her line goes back 31 generations. > > I hope this helps anyone working on this family. My wife has joined > several > organizations using this documentation: National Society Daughters of > Founders > and Patriots of America; National Society Sons and Daughters of the > Pilgrims; > National Society Magna Charta Dames; National Society Women Descendants > Ancient & Honorable Artillery Co.; Order of Three Crusades 1096-1192 to > name a few. > > If anyone would like more information please contact us. > Blake Tyner > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/04/2007 03:33:25
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] Faircloth . Obit
    2. >From the 1900 Census, Cumberland Co, Beaver Dam, indexed as FAIRCLOTH, Son J, Head, Jun 1861, 38, married 15 yrs, Farmer, Owns farm free Belindia, wife, Mar 1861, 5 children / 5 living James F, son, Sept 1885, 14 Carrie E, daughter, ~~ 1887, 12 Alexander, son, July 1888, 11 Troy H, son, May 1891, 9 Ella J, daughter, Nov 1894, 4 1910 Cumberland Co, Beaver Dam, indexed as FAIRCLOTH, Love J, 48 Bulinda, 48 James F, 24 Carrie E, 23 Alexander, 21 Troy H, 18 Ella J, 15 Karen ---- Robert M Butler <rmbnc@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > Does anyone know in which Faircloth family Troy Faircloth belongs? I have Catherine Adline Faircloth, 1859-1903, in my Smith family tree. > > Thanks. > > Bob (Robert McLemore) Butler > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > TROY HENDERSON FAIRCLOTH .. > > > > > > AUTRYVILLE (NC) ..Troy Henderson Faircloth, 79, of Rt. 2, Autryville, died Thursday [7 an 1971] > > > > Funeral services will be held Saturday at Butler Funeral Chapel, the Rev. Rogert Jackson officiating. Burial will be in the Faircloth family cemetery. > > > > Surviving are two sisters, Mrs. Ella F. Sessoms and Mrs. Carrie F. Smith of Moses Lake Washington. > > > > > > > > From: The Fayetteville Observer..Friday 1-8-1971 > > > > > > File: Obit..Faircloth, Troy Henderson..1-7-1971 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/04/2007 01:25:35
    1. [NCCUMBER] Hubbards
    2. Blake Tyner
    3. For anyone interested in the Hubbards from Cumberland County I have set up a page on John Harold Hubbard (first one in NC) and a page on his wife Mary Talbot. My wife has taken his line back 9 generations(all that is in FamilyTree Maker currently) and her line goes back 31 generations. I hope this helps anyone working on this family. My wife has joined several organizations using this documentation: National Society Daughters of Founders and Patriots of America; National Society Sons and Daughters of the Pilgrims; National Society Magna Charta Dames; National Society Women Descendants Ancient & Honorable Artillery Co.; Order of Three Crusades 1096-1192 to name a few. If anyone would like more information please contact us. Blake Tyner

    02/04/2007 01:11:54
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] Hubbards
    2. Patricia London
    3. Blake Do you have any more abstract books for sale? thanks trisha > [Original Message] > From: Blake Tyner <blake@bbtyner.com> > To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com> > Date: 2/4/2007 5:13:22 PM > Subject: [NCCUMBER] Hubbards > > > > For anyone interested in the Hubbards from Cumberland County I have set > up a page on John Harold Hubbard (first one in NC) and a page on his wife > Mary Talbot. > > My wife has taken his line back 9 generations(all that is in FamilyTree > Maker currently) and her line goes back 31 generations. > > I hope this helps anyone working on this family. My wife has joined several > organizations using this documentation: National Society Daughters of Founders > and Patriots of America; National Society Sons and Daughters of the Pilgrims; > National Society Magna Charta Dames; National Society Women Descendants > Ancient & Honorable Artillery Co.; Order of Three Crusades 1096-1192 to > name a few. > > If anyone would like more information please contact us. > Blake Tyner > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/04/2007 12:11:58
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] Neill McNeill's;
    2. Elaine Carr
    3. John, Sorry Glenn's website didn't work for you, but if you ever widen your scope, maybe it will help then. Hopefully, others on the list found it useful. Elaine -------Original Message------- From: john mcneill Date: 2/4/2007 12:10:59 PM To: nccumber@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Neill McNeill's; I checke his website and tho a very good research I could not use it becaue I confined my research to the 39ers. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine McN C" <Imascot@comcast.net> To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Neill McNeill's;

    02/04/2007 11:42:54
    1. [NCCUMBER] Faircloth . Obit
    2. Robert M Butler
    3. Does anyone know in which Faircloth family Troy Faircloth belongs? I have Catherine Adline Faircloth, 1859-1903, in my Smith family tree. Thanks. Bob (Robert McLemore) Butler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TROY HENDERSON FAIRCLOTH .. AUTRYVILLE (NC) ..Troy Henderson Faircloth, 79, of Rt. 2, Autryville, died Thursday [7 an 1971] Funeral services will be held Saturday at Butler Funeral Chapel, the Rev. Rogert Jackson officiating. Burial will be in the Faircloth family cemetery. Surviving are two sisters, Mrs. Ella F. Sessoms and Mrs. Carrie F. Smith of Moses Lake Washington. From: The Fayetteville Observer..Friday 1-8-1971 File: Obit..Faircloth, Troy Henderson..1-7-1971

    02/04/2007 10:31:39
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] Branch/Woodward/Vann/McNeal families
    2. Will Branch
    3. Hi, Thank you so much for your reply. My Woodward connection begins with my Great Grandmother, Lillian Pearl Woodward, who was born in 1882 in Raleigh, NC, and died in 1961, in New Bern, NC. She married William McNeal Branch in 1906. William McNeal Branch was born in Fayetteville, NC in 1880 and died sometime around 1918-19, place unknown, possibly from the flu. They had the following children: William Woodward 1907 - 1958 (my grandfather) James Lee 1909 - ca. 1911 Emma Virginia 1912 - 1991 Samuel Parrish 1917 - 2001 Lillian Pearl was the oldest child of James L. (or James McKethan) Woodward and Emma Jane Parrish, who married 15 Sept 1880. Generation 3 Lillian Pearl 1882 - 1961 Mamie Irene 1883 - 1884 Margaret Hines 1885 - ? James Leondilas 1888 - 1943 Julia Esther 1891 - 1894 Mattie Ross (Janie) 1893 - 1984 Generation 2 James L. / James McKethan Woodward was born 12 Oct 1852 and died before 18 Sep 1897, places unknown. This information comes from a family Bible. Emma Jane Parrish was born 6 May 1862, and died 26 Jun 1947. James L. / James McKethan Woodward was the 5th child of Andrew Jackson Woodward and Clara/Clarissa McKethan Mitchell, who married in 20 Oct 1842, Cumberland Co., NC. Generation 2 W J / William Joseph “Willie” 1 Sep 1843 - 11 Oct 1907 George Washington 12 Jun 1845 - 1924 A J Jr / Andrew Jackson Jr 3 Sep 1847 - 18 Jul 1890 Pembroke W. 13 Oct 1849 - 10 May 1910 James L. / James McKethan 12 Oct 1852 - 18 Sep 1897 Joel Augustus 27 Jan 1854 - aft 1870 Ellen 15 Jan 1856 - aft 1870 Emma White 3 Feb 1858 - 2 Apr 1932 Mary 15 Feb 1860 - bef 1870 Alice 1861 - aft 1910 Delia Blanks 18 Apr 1863 - aft 1880 Generation 1 Andrew Jackson Woodward was born 12 Jun 1818 and died 19 Jun 1904. Clara/Clarissa McKethan Mitchell was born 29 Dec 1825 and died before 1910. Sources I have are as follows: 1880 US Census http://www.familysearch.org Andu. J. WOODWARD Self M Male W 62 NC Farmer NC NC Clara WOODWARD Wife M Female W 57 NC Keeping House NC NC James WOODWARD Son S Male W 28 NC Book Keeper NC NC Emma WOODWARD Dau S Female W 22 NC At Home NC NC Alice WOODWARD Dau S Female W 20 NC At Home NC NC Delia WOODWARD Dau S Female W 17 NC At School NC NC Nancy RUSS Other S Female B 60 NC At Home NC NC Source Information: Census Place Cross Creek, Cumberland, North Carolina Family History Library Film 1254960 NA Film Number T9-0960 Page Number 569C Birth and death dates mostly came from Susan Forbess' website on Rootsweb, http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? op=SHOW&db=slforbess&surname=Woodward%2C+Andrew+Jackson%2C+Sr%2E I also have some information from 3 previous generations of Woodwards; the families of Joseph Woodward, Pleasant Woodward and Christopher Woodward and his siblings. I know nothing about Clara Mitchell, other than her parent's names, William Mitchell and an Unknown McKethan. I'd love to know more about the Mitchells, if you have information. I'm curious as to whether I'm hooked into the correct Mitchell. Hopefully, you can tell me more. Also, I'm curious to know what James L. / James McKethan's actual name was (Generation 2). His son was James Leondilas, but if McKethan was a family name, that would also make sense. Any other information, particularly family stories or lore would also be wonderful. Thank you for your help, Will Branch On Feb 4, 2007, at 8:18 AM, fharper@triad.rr.com wrote: > I must have missed the first posting. I descend from Andrew Jackson > Woodward and wife Clara Clarissa Mitchell of Fayetteville. It sounds > like you're talking about the descendants of Clara's older half sister > Sarah Mitchell. I can help with the Mitchell and Woodward families if > you're interested. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCUMBER- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    02/04/2007 08:43:43
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill,
    2. Gilbert Ray
    3. I'm not really sure. I have a Hector Ray in my family but he was born in the late 1800's but I don't recognize the name Bond. That doesn't mean a whole lot though because they really didn't keep the genealogy up to date in the old days, at least my Ray family didn't. Gilbert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Sugg" <imnchghere@comcast.net> To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > > Gilbert, > My husband's line has a Bond Ray in it, who married Esther Brafford. > Esther > was his paternal grandmother's younger sister. Is any of this familiar to > you? > I know they had a son Hector. But that is it. All of these people are > from Fayetteville. > Just curious. Thanks > pat > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gilbert Ray" <gmray47@nc.rr.com> > To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:34 PM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > > >> My grandmother was a Gillis from Cumberland county. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Velta" <vanneh@bellsouth.net> >> To: <trishahen@earthlink.net>; <nccumber@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:26 AM >> Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, >> >> >>> Do you have any GILLIS / GILLIES families in your line? >>> Thanks, >>> Velta Gillis Hord >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Patricia London" <trishahen@earthlink.net> >>> To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com>; "John McNeill" <mcneill@apk.net>; "Lois >>> Haile" <heartbar@quik.com>; "Emily Lees" <emilylees@bellsouth.net>; >>> "Kenny >>> Stewart" <kenith@mindspring.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:16 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/04/2007 07:16:23
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill,
    2. Velta
    3. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "john mcneill" <mcneill@apk.net> To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > none > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Velta" <vanneh@bellsouth.net> > To: <trishahen@earthlink.net>; <nccumber@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:26 AM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > > > > Do you have any GILLIS / GILLIES families in your line? > > Thanks, > > Velta Gillis Hord > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Patricia London" <trishahen@earthlink.net> > > To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com>; "John McNeill" <mcneill@apk.net>; "Lois > > Haile" <heartbar@quik.com>; "Emily Lees" <emilylees@bellsouth.net>; "Kenny > > Stewart" <kenith@mindspring.com> > > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > > > > > >> > >> # 2 is spelled Janet Murchison and actually she was the widow of John > >> Murchison and was Janet McLean, born Feb 27, 1800 in Cumberland Co NC- > >> daughter of Daniel McLEan and Flora McAllister prior to marrying John > >> Murchison in on Jan 8, 1821 in Cumberland Co NC ..... > >> Trisha > >> > >> > [Original Message] > >> > From: Lois Haile <heartbar@quik.com> > >> > To: john mcneill <mcneill@apk.net>; <nccumber@rootsweb.com> > >> > Date: 2/3/2007 4:58:43 PM > >> > Subject: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > >> > > >> > John & list, > >> > The names I have for Malcolm & Janet McAlister McNeill's children are: > >> > 1. Coll McNeill m- Effie Buie. > >> > 2. John McNeill , m- Lovey Robinson & Janet Murcheson. > >> > 3. Janet McNeill, b- 15 April 1779. m- John Atkins > >> > 4. Archibald McNeill, d- July 1796. > >> > 5. Neill McNeill, b- 2 Jan. 1782. d- July 1796. > >> > 6. Flora McNeill. m Neill McKay. d- 7 Oct. 1868. > >> > 7. Isabella McNeill. b- 16 Dec. 1789. m- 19 Nov. 1803 in Cumberland > >> > Co., > >> James Atkins. James Atkins d- 1822 and Isabella then m- John Purifoy. > >> ( It > >> is my belief that James Atkins was quite a bit older than Isabella). > >> > > >> > Lois Haile > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.19/663 - Release Date: 2/1/2007 > >> 2:28 PM > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.19/663 - Release Date: 2/1/2007 2:28 PM > >

    02/04/2007 06:00:37
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill,
    2. Pat Sugg
    3. Gilbert, My husband's line has a Bond Ray in it, who married Esther Brafford. Esther was his paternal grandmother's younger sister. Is any of this familiar to you? I know they had a son Hector. But that is it. All of these people are from Fayetteville. Just curious. Thanks pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilbert Ray" <gmray47@nc.rr.com> To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > My grandmother was a Gillis from Cumberland county. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Velta" <vanneh@bellsouth.net> > To: <trishahen@earthlink.net>; <nccumber@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:26 AM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > > >> Do you have any GILLIS / GILLIES families in your line? >> Thanks, >> Velta Gillis Hord >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Patricia London" <trishahen@earthlink.net> >> To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com>; "John McNeill" <mcneill@apk.net>; "Lois >> Haile" <heartbar@quik.com>; "Emily Lees" <emilylees@bellsouth.net>; >> "Kenny >> Stewart" <kenith@mindspring.com> >> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill,

    02/04/2007 05:45:31
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA?
    2. Gilbert Ray
    3. The sample would have to come from a direct descendent in your Ray line. I think it's great that you husband can trace his ancestry so far back. I can only trace my Ray ancestor to the late 1700's. It seems they didn't really care much about keeping genealogy records once they got here to the US. I'm not really sure if the name was Ray in Scotland. It could have been Darrach or McIlreach or could have been something completely different. Keep searching, maybe if you have one of your Ray relative do the DNA search we'll be connected. Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Lee Streckfuss" <streckfuss2@msn.com> To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > Mac, We have several retired military Silver-Haired Legislators...most > retired as Col...no Generals but I think we have an Admiral that doesn't > talk about it. My husband is a retired Virologist and was with a MASH > unit in Korea...we went back 5-6 years ago. Wonderful experience! Have a > grandson with a BlackHawk unit...he is maintenance crewman. His Dad is a > retired Commander, Navy Air. We have all sorts except submarines. I have > a question on DNA...does sample have to come from Son of a Son of the > line? My husband is not the Ray line, in fact he is from a well known > German family who has only been here since 1848 but has a full written > history back to Charlemagne. Proven records, journals etc. because of > priests and philosophers in his family, lucky man. My early ancestors > were Masons in Isle of Wight about 1640, fortunately they could write > which got them tax jobs and juror positions...helps a lot when you can > track those records. I'm working on my other NC lines ! > now...Ray and Watts and maybe an Arrington connection. I have male > cousins who are descended from my Dads brothers so they may be the key, > also a cousin in GA (retired military too) who is Ray line and he might > have testing. So many tasks and so little time....Thanks for your info > and continued sharing. Betty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gilbert Ray<mailto:gmray47@nc.rr.com> > To: nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:05 AM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > Sounds like you have an exciting life! My son is stationed at Ft Hood and > loves it out there. Says he has switched his statehood status to Texas. > Anyway you only need to get one son tested, all will have the same Y DNA > provided they have the same father. The Y DNA is pass father to son then > to > his son almost unchanged. It does change sometimes but it is so slow > that > they can determine families for generations from it. During my service > (over 23 years) in the military I was exposed to Agent Orange and nuclear > material and I wonder sometime if my DNA might have been changed by it. > I > would like for others in my family to test to see if they are direct > matches > to me due to that reason. It can be a lot of fun but it can be very > frustrating at the same time. Good look in your work and with your DNA > journey. Mac > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty Lee Streckfuss" > <streckfuss2@msn.com<mailto:streckfuss2@msn.com>> > To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:45 PM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > Mac, It will be a while before I can get into this a bit more. Had > time > > yesterday afternoon and went to the genealogy library downtown Houston > but > > didn't have a lot of time to delve into new stuff. I am one of those > > crazy people that aren't happy unless they are involved in about 6 > things > > at once. Okay until they all converge into a quagmire. I am a Texas > > Silver-Haired Legislator and our State Legislature has only until March > 9 > > to file all Bills. I have two legislations regarding seniors that I > > personally wrote and several others that come from our Silver-Haired > > delegates....we must go to Austin and push for them. Senior Day is the > > Capitol is Feb 13th and the night before the Silver-haired Leg. are > having > > a reception with the Governor, so with the other things it is a busy > time. > > I fit family research here and there as I can. I am a Daughter of the > > American Revolution through my Mason line, Nash County...and our State > > Congress is middle of March and I am an alternate ! > > to that. > > My dad was one of 5 brothers and all of them are gone...I have two > sons, > > and assume that they have the correct DNA material for testing??? I > will > > persuade one of them...probably the one who is a Son of Confederate > > Veterans to cooperate, the other is more interested in other > > things..."like the living, Mom". Thank you for answering, maybe we > have a > > link. Betty S > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gilbert Ray<mailto:gmray47@nc.rr.com<mailto:gmray47@nc.rr.com>> > > To: > nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com>> > > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > > > Hi Betty, Sorry about the delay in replying. I'm not sure if we're > > connected or not. I'm actually related to two Ray families in NC. > One > > on > > my gggrandmothers side is from Robeson county NC. Her husband my > > gggrandfather moved to Cheraw SC in the 1830's or 40's but died soon > > after > > and his wife Ann Ray Ray moved back to NC after his death. The only > way > > to > > check actual connections is through the DNA test but it has to be a > Male > > Ray > > descendent. The female will not carry the Y chromosome that they use > to > > do > > the tracing. It is passed male to male to male only in a straight > line > > and > > is a small portion of the DNA that we all carry. I go by Mac. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Betty Lee Streckfuss" > > > <streckfuss2@msn.com<mailto:streckfuss2@msn.com<mailto:streckfuss2@msn.com<mailto:streckfuss2@msn.com>>> > > To: > <nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > > > > Gilbert, Have I asked you if you are connected to Louis Hamilton Ray > b. > > > 1808? He married Mary "Polly" Moses and they moved from S.C. to > > > Mississippi and their children were: John, Nathan, Nancy, Elizabeth > (my > > > ancestor who married John Robuck then my line..John Mason) Rebecca, > > > Nathan, Francisco. Elizabeth and her sister Rebecca married > brothers > > > Elizabeth who married my John Mason and Rebecca married Daniel > Mason. > > > They must have been great friends, the men were in the same Itawamba > > Ms. > > > Masonic Lodge, moved to Alabama together where John died and > Elizabeth > > > continued to live next door to Daniel and Rebecca, their sister > > Elizabeth > > > Mason was also living with them in Alabama. John was my > GrGrGranddad. > > > Betty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Gilbert > Ray<mailto:gmray47@nc.rr.com<mailto:gmray47@nc.rr.com<mailto:gmray47@nc.rr.com<mailto:gmray47@nc.rr.com>>> > > > To: > > > nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com>>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:46 PM > > > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > > > > > > Neal, If you're wanting the male side of your DNA I've already had > it > > > done > > > and will be glad to share it with you. Otherwise there are several > > > companies that will do that. One is Family Tree DNA at > > > > > > www.familytreedna.com<http://www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com%3chttp//www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com<http://www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com<http//www.familytreedna.com/>>> > > where I had mine > > > done. Mac > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > <Neanra@aol.com<mailto:Neanra@aol.com<mailto:Neanra@aol.com%3Cmailto:Neanra@aol.com<mailto:Neanra@aol.com<mailto:Neanra@aol.com<mailto:Neanra@aol.com<mailto:Neanra@aol.com>>>> > > > To: > > > <nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com<mailto:nccumber@rootsweb.com>>>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:51 PM > > > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > > > > > > > How do you get the DNA done? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > > > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com>>> > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com>>> > > with > > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of > > > the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com>> > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com>> > with > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/04/2007 05:39:02
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill,
    2. Gilbert Ray
    3. My grandmother was a Gillis from Cumberland county. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Velta" <vanneh@bellsouth.net> To: <trishahen@earthlink.net>; <nccumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > Do you have any GILLIS / GILLIES families in your line? > Thanks, > Velta Gillis Hord > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia London" <trishahen@earthlink.net> > To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com>; "John McNeill" <mcneill@apk.net>; "Lois > Haile" <heartbar@quik.com>; "Emily Lees" <emilylees@bellsouth.net>; "Kenny > Stewart" <kenith@mindspring.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:16 PM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > > >> >> # 2 is spelled Janet Murchison and actually she was the widow of John >> Murchison and was Janet McLean, born Feb 27, 1800 in Cumberland Co NC- >> daughter of Daniel McLEan and Flora McAllister prior to marrying John >> Murchison in on Jan 8, 1821 in Cumberland Co NC ..... >> Trisha >> >> > [Original Message] >> > From: Lois Haile <heartbar@quik.com> >> > To: john mcneill <mcneill@apk.net>; <nccumber@rootsweb.com> >> > Date: 2/3/2007 4:58:43 PM >> > Subject: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, >> > >> > John & list, >> > The names I have for Malcolm & Janet McAlister McNeill's children are: >> > 1. Coll McNeill m- Effie Buie. >> > 2. John McNeill , m- Lovey Robinson & Janet Murcheson. >> > 3. Janet McNeill, b- 15 April 1779. m- John Atkins >> > 4. Archibald McNeill, d- July 1796. >> > 5. Neill McNeill, b- 2 Jan. 1782. d- July 1796. >> > 6. Flora McNeill. m Neill McKay. d- 7 Oct. 1868. >> > 7. Isabella McNeill. b- 16 Dec. 1789. m- 19 Nov. 1803 in Cumberland >> > Co., >> James Atkins. James Atkins d- 1822 and Isabella then m- John Purifoy. >> ( It >> is my belief that James Atkins was quite a bit older than Isabella). >> > >> > Lois Haile >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.19/663 - Release Date: 2/1/2007 >> 2:28 PM >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/04/2007 05:34:33
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill,
    2. john mcneill
    3. none ----- Original Message ----- From: "Velta" <vanneh@bellsouth.net> To: <trishahen@earthlink.net>; <nccumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > Do you have any GILLIS / GILLIES families in your line? > Thanks, > Velta Gillis Hord > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia London" <trishahen@earthlink.net> > To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com>; "John McNeill" <mcneill@apk.net>; "Lois > Haile" <heartbar@quik.com>; "Emily Lees" <emilylees@bellsouth.net>; "Kenny > Stewart" <kenith@mindspring.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:16 PM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > > >> >> # 2 is spelled Janet Murchison and actually she was the widow of John >> Murchison and was Janet McLean, born Feb 27, 1800 in Cumberland Co NC- >> daughter of Daniel McLEan and Flora McAllister prior to marrying John >> Murchison in on Jan 8, 1821 in Cumberland Co NC ..... >> Trisha >> >> > [Original Message] >> > From: Lois Haile <heartbar@quik.com> >> > To: john mcneill <mcneill@apk.net>; <nccumber@rootsweb.com> >> > Date: 2/3/2007 4:58:43 PM >> > Subject: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, >> > >> > John & list, >> > The names I have for Malcolm & Janet McAlister McNeill's children are: >> > 1. Coll McNeill m- Effie Buie. >> > 2. John McNeill , m- Lovey Robinson & Janet Murcheson. >> > 3. Janet McNeill, b- 15 April 1779. m- John Atkins >> > 4. Archibald McNeill, d- July 1796. >> > 5. Neill McNeill, b- 2 Jan. 1782. d- July 1796. >> > 6. Flora McNeill. m Neill McKay. d- 7 Oct. 1868. >> > 7. Isabella McNeill. b- 16 Dec. 1789. m- 19 Nov. 1803 in Cumberland >> > Co., >> James Atkins. James Atkins d- 1822 and Isabella then m- John Purifoy. >> ( It >> is my belief that James Atkins was quite a bit older than Isabella). >> > >> > Lois Haile >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.19/663 - Release Date: 2/1/2007 >> 2:28 PM >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 > >

    02/04/2007 05:34:30
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] Gillis/Gillies
    2. Pat Sugg
    3. This thread caught my attention as I have Gillies in my line though not in NC. My paternal grandmother's sister was married to Alexander Gillies. Both families were from Hill of Beath in Fife Scotland and came to West Virginia. I've done a little with that family, but not a lot. My huisband's line is NC/Cumberland and includes Brafford and Hall, which is why I am on this list. pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Velta" <vanneh@bellsouth.net> To: <trishahen@earthlink.net>; <nccumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > Do you have any GILLIS / GILLIES families in your line? > Thanks, > Velta Gillis Hord

    02/04/2007 05:29:29
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] Neill McNeill's;
    2. john mcneill
    3. I checke his website and tho a very good research I could not use it becaue I confined my research to the 39ers. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine McN C" <Imascot@comcast.net> To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Neill McNeill's; > Steve - > Do I have a website for you! Before he passed away, Glenn McGugan, > descendant of John and Margaret McNeill McGugan of Robeson Co., spent many > months researching McNeills in that region of North Carolina. I was one > of > his contributors. He was an excellent and precise researcher. Glenn and > I > were cousins through the McGugans. He was a striking Scot when dressed in > full Scottish regalia! The link to his research of Neill McNeills is: > > http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi > > If you have a problem with the link, let me know. > > I believe I also saw Roderick's home in Hoke Co. Several years ago, the > cousin I mentioned earlier and her husband drove me around the tri-county > area to show me homes and cemeteries. > > Elaine McN C in DE > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Steve E. > Date: 01/29/07 08:48:36 > To: nccumber@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Neill McNeill's; > > Elaine, > This is of great help to me because I've been trying to sort out a > number of Neill McNeills in Robeson and Cumberland. Do you know who they > married? > > I'm particularly interested in Roderick McNeill. I recall seeing a > beautiful but neglected house near Dundarrach in Hoke County, NC, that > my mother said was Roderick McNeill's home. One of my best friends from > Robeson descends from a Roderick McNeill but I can't recall what period > his Roderick lived. > > It's gone now I believe. Is your source bible records, estates records, > what? > Thanks! > Steve > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 > >

    02/04/2007 05:10:05
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] Neill McNeill's;
    2. john mcneill
    3. Emily could you send me your message directly so I can get your email ? Also my research is confined to the '39ers and their origins and antics. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emily Lees" <emilylees@bellsouth.net> To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Neill McNeill's; > Hi, John -- Could you also send me the information on Neill Dubh > McNeill? I am descended from both him and Alexander McAlister, mentioned > in the message below from Lois. I am a descendent of Neill's daughter > Flora, who married Alexander McAlister. There may be other McNeill ties, > too -- my mother always told me we were descended from Jennie Bahn Smith > McNeill, but I am still untangling all of this. > > Thanks. > > Emily Lees > Chapel Hill, NC > > john mcneill wrote: > >>I have done some research along this line. I ahve anecdotals on Red Neill, >>Dubh McNeill and the 1739 emigres. >> >>John McNeill >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Lois Haile" <heartbar@quik.com> >>To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:13 PM >>Subject: [NCCUMBER] Neill McNeill's; >> >> >> >> >>>I enjoyed the list sent of the Argyll Colonists as printed in the Argyll >>>Colony Plus. I already had it somewhere. My husband's ancestors were >>>Neill, >>>(Black) McNeill and Alexander McAlister. I find so many Neill McNeill's >>>interesting but do not know how to tell them apart , or can anyone? >>> >>>I started a list of the many Neill McNeill's but cannot find it tonight. >>>There were four on the Colonists list. There was Long Neill, Black Neill >>>& Little Neill and just Neill. >>>There was also a Bluff Neill and a Red Neill, that I can thihnk of >>>offhand. How many others? >>> >>>Lois Haile >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 > >

    02/04/2007 05:07:52
    1. Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill,
    2. Velta
    3. Do you have any GILLIS / GILLIES families in your line? Thanks, Velta Gillis Hord ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia London" <trishahen@earthlink.net> To: <nccumber@rootsweb.com>; "John McNeill" <mcneill@apk.net>; "Lois Haile" <heartbar@quik.com>; "Emily Lees" <emilylees@bellsouth.net>; "Kenny Stewart" <kenith@mindspring.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > > # 2 is spelled Janet Murchison and actually she was the widow of John > Murchison and was Janet McLean, born Feb 27, 1800 in Cumberland Co NC- > daughter of Daniel McLEan and Flora McAllister prior to marrying John > Murchison in on Jan 8, 1821 in Cumberland Co NC ..... > Trisha > > > [Original Message] > > From: Lois Haile <heartbar@quik.com> > > To: john mcneill <mcneill@apk.net>; <nccumber@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 2/3/2007 4:58:43 PM > > Subject: [NCCUMBER] Malcolm McNeill, > > > > John & list, > > The names I have for Malcolm & Janet McAlister McNeill's children are: > > 1. Coll McNeill m- Effie Buie. > > 2. John McNeill , m- Lovey Robinson & Janet Murcheson. > > 3. Janet McNeill, b- 15 April 1779. m- John Atkins > > 4. Archibald McNeill, d- July 1796. > > 5. Neill McNeill, b- 2 Jan. 1782. d- July 1796. > > 6. Flora McNeill. m Neill McKay. d- 7 Oct. 1868. > > 7. Isabella McNeill. b- 16 Dec. 1789. m- 19 Nov. 1803 in Cumberland Co., > James Atkins. James Atkins d- 1822 and Isabella then m- John Purifoy. ( It > is my belief that James Atkins was quite a bit older than Isabella). > > > > Lois Haile > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.19/663 - Release Date: 2/1/2007 2:28 PM > >

    02/04/2007 04:26:26
    1. [NCCUMBER] Fw: nucmc
    2. Fran
    3. Another site useful for me. Maybe another can use it? Fran _______________________________ http://www.loc.gov/coll/nucmc/

    02/04/2007 02:57:59
    1. [NCCUMBER] A great web site
    2. Fran
    3. Diane, is this a good site for you to link on your pages? Online searches are difficult for me. It seems I have not yet learned the method to obtain results I seek. This search engine helps. Hopefully, it will help another. Fran _______________________________________________ The American Library Association has made a list of the Best Free Reference Web Sites. http://www.ala.org/ala/rusa/rusaourassoc/rusasections/mars/marspubs/MARSBESTIndex.htm Bill Drew has created a search engine of the web sites included in the 1999-2006 annual lists. http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=012681041057676717069%3Alxoys7hon_y Genealogists and family historians will find the listed search engine useful in obtaining data about individuals in current events, as well as filtered results.

    02/04/2007 02:56:19