I have done some research along this line. I ahve anecdotals on Red Neill, Dubh McNeill and the 1739 emigres. John McNeill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois Haile" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:13 PM Subject: [NCCUMBER] Neill McNeill's; >I enjoyed the list sent of the Argyll Colonists as printed in the Argyll >Colony Plus. I already had it somewhere. My husband's ancestors were Neill, >(Black) McNeill and Alexander McAlister. I find so many Neill McNeill's >interesting but do not know how to tell them apart , or can anyone? > > I started a list of the many Neill McNeill's but cannot find it tonight. > There were four on the Colonists list. There was Long Neill, Black Neill > & Little Neill and just Neill. > There was also a Bluff Neill and a Red Neill, that I can thihnk of > offhand. How many others? > > Lois Haile > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 > >

Along this same vein, can anyone identify the Neill McNeill who came to America, supposedly with two youngs sons "Sailor Hector" and "Shoemaker John" McNeill, around 1740 and came to live in Bladen County (his lands are now in Hoke and owned by McNeill descendants) around the 1760s? Lois Haile wrote: >I enjoyed the list sent of the Argyll Colonists as printed in the Argyll Colony Plus. I already had it somewhere. My husband's ancestors were Neill, (Black) McNeill and Alexander McAlister. I find so many Neill McNeill's interesting but do not know how to tell them apart , or can anyone? > >I started a list of the many Neill McNeill's but cannot find it tonight. There were four on the Colonists list. There was Long Neill, Black Neill & Little Neill and just Neill. >There was also a Bluff Neill and a Red Neill, that I can thihnk of offhand. How many others? > >Lois Haile > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Lois - Here's another one for your list. My Neill McNeill was a much later one...born 1784 Jura, marr Marrion "Sarah" McDougall 1814, emigrated c 1819 to western Cumberland Co, now Hoke. His homestead still stands on the Rt 401 Bypass and is occupied by McNeill descendants. His parents and siblings are not known to me. Elaine McN Carr in DE -------Original Message------- From: Lois Haile Date: 1/28/2007 12:53:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NCCUMBER] Neill McNeill's; I enjoyed the list sent of the Argyll Colonists as printed in the Argyll Colony Plus. I already had it somewhere. My husband's ancestors were Neill, (Black) McNeill and Alexander McAlister. I find so many Neill McNeill's interesting but do not know how to tell them apart , or can anyone? I started a list of the many Neill McNeill's but cannot find it tonight. There were four on the Colonists list. There was Long Neill, Black Neill & Little Neill and just Neill. There was also a Bluff Neill and a Red Neill, that I can thihnk of offhand. How many others? Lois Haile ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

[email protected] writes: Fran, what deed are you looking for, will fill out form to see if they have it, should------ Helen, how very surprising and how very nice of you! Thank you very much. If you will send your postal address off list I will send a check to you on Monday. I thank you. Fran ______________________ This deed is a Bladen deed and I have no deed book or page: 3 Nov 1845-G.W.Melvin, Esq. high Sheriff To John O. Daniel...execution-Coll McDougal & others-Charles ONeal-200A Wit: Durum Lewis. Feb Term 1846. H.H.Robinson, Clk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

NEVIN and JOHN GALBREATH: There is a Neil Colbreath living as a single poll (married: not known) and no slaves in both 1774 and 1775. He is located very near to James McNeill of Rockfish Creek, my ancestor. James McNeill lived up near Raeford, NC along today's border of Cumberland and Hoke County, NC. There is a John Culbreath living in Captain McKissick's district in 1789 with 150 acres. I can't identify the neighborhood. Usually in this list everyone has a poll number with their names, John has no number of polls by his name. All others with no poll number appear to be dead, with "deceased" or "estate of" by their names. Perhaps they were only being assessed for their acreage for estates settlement purposes. kathryn lewis wrote: >Steve: Would you do a look-up for me in your two volumes of the Bladen County tax lists, please, for Nevin (Nevon, Neven) Culbreath, Colbraith, Galbreath and also for John Culbreath, Colbraith, Colbreath? Thank you. kit lewis > >"Steve E." <[email protected]> wrote: I have both volumes of the Bladen County Tax Lists covering the years >1768-1789. If anyone would like a lookup in these two volumes, let me >know. Be aware that there are no Bladen tax lists for the years 1773, >1777, 1780-85, or 1788. A few are in alphabetical order, the others >appear to be listed as the tax poller found them living along his route. >Steve Edgerton > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >--------------------------------- >Finding fabulous fares is fun. >Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I enjoyed the list sent of the Argyll Colonists as printed in the Argyll Colony Plus. I already had it somewhere. My husband's ancestors were Neill, (Black) McNeill and Alexander McAlister. I find so many Neill McNeill's interesting but do not know how to tell them apart , or can anyone? I started a list of the many Neill McNeill's but cannot find it tonight. There were four on the Colonists list. There was Long Neill, Black Neill & Little Neill and just Neill. There was also a Bluff Neill and a Red Neill, that I can thihnk of offhand. How many others? Lois Haile

Fran, what deed are you looking for, will fill out form to see if they have it, should take about a week to hear from them, and will let you know if they have anything. Helen Ennis Williams

I live in NC, and I order records a lot from their online instate order site, the NC Archives send me letter telling me if they have record are not and how much it will be, must times it is only $2 for records, that includes coping also. I have never had to send money up front. I have had to send money up front to the Archives in Washington to search for Military records. The address for instate ordering is: _http://ncrec.dcr.state.nc.us/ArchivesMailer/ArchivesMailer.asp_ (http://ncrec.dcr.state.nc.us/ArchivesMailer/ArchivesMailer.asp)

[email protected] writes: Can go to The N.C.State Archives on line, pull up Mars Catalog----- I, too, will give that a try, Bob. Thanks. Fran Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Help with deed Steve, Can go to The N.C.State Archives on line, pull up Mars Catalog. Once loaded it will show where record are. Go to bottom of page and click on State records, go back to top and enter persons name Then it will show several places where info may be found. Will not show full contents of record but will give persons name,amount of acres, location and cost. Bob ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

[email protected] wrote: IF YOU LIVE IN N.C.THE COST NON REFUNDABLE IS JUST $2,00 PLUS COST FOR COPIES. IF YOU LIVE IN SC IT IS $20.00 NON REFUNDABLE PLUS COST FOR COPIES. Okay, how much for up north? BTW: Asa FIN(D)LEY was my maternal GrGrGranddaddy. Fran ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Steve, Can go to The N.C.State Archives on line, pull up Mars Catalog. Once loaded it will show where record are. Go to bottom of page and click on State records, go back to top and enter persons name Then it will show several places where info may be found. Will not show full contents of record but will give persons name,amount of acres, location and cost. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve E" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Help with deed Why don't you contact the NC Dept of Archives and History and have them print out a copy for you? They can then send it to you. I don't know what the cost is because I lived about a mile from the archives so I go and find a deed if I want it. Their web address: http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/archives/ Fran wrote: >[email protected] wrote: >It seems you've got some abstracts below. It's always a better idea to >go to the original deed and read it ALL. There are lots of little, >possibly important, details in a deed that an abstract omits. In doing >so you'll have the call numbers of the property so that you can compare >them to call numbers in a later different deed—that way you could >possibly connect separate generations of the same family. > > >Steve, thanks for the information contained in all of the replies you >sent out yesterday. I believe the above summarizes the information you >have sent, so I will not reply to each individual email. > >I thank you for your time and input and have decided you are 100% >correct: to unravel this puzzle I will have to order the deed. I had >hoped someone online might have a copy to scan and send but that is not >what I asked for and it has not happened. > >Thanks again. > >fran > > > > > >>3 Nov 1845-G.W.Melvin, Esq. high Sheriff To John O. >>Daniel...execution-Coll McDougal & others-Charles ONeal-200A >>Wit: Durum Lewis. Feb Term 1846. H.H.Robinson, Clk >> >> >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Steve, I think I know the map you mentioned. There is a James McDonald much farther up the Cape Fear River. We have no idea who he is. 3 McDonald brothers, James, John and William were shipped to the harbor of Charleston after the Culloden Battle, 1747, Jacobite prisoners.We have wondered if possibly these are the parents of our James and John.I found a will at Lancaster Co. S.C. by a William McDonald giving his land in Montgomery Co. N.C. to nephews William and James1805. After searching the Middleton McDonalds, finding their William had died in 1801, we believe this is a brother to our James Sr.No proof. William and Rutha had 10 children, she died 1835, he married again, had 6 more children. He died in 1862. Ruth -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve E. Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 12:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraney, Robinson Ruth, Yes, I've read that there was a second group a year or so after the first 1739 group, but never read that the Thistle was the ship used for the second group. And I don't believe there is an extant passenger list for the 39ers, correct? I thought that Malcolm Fowler et. al made the list based on early 1740 deeds to the immigrating highland and lowland Scots along the Cape Fear River ranging from just below Fayetteville in Cumberland Co. up into Harnett County. Please tell where James McDonald's grant was. I have some connections to McDonalds who owned land on Rockfish Creek fairly early, and I haven't been able to identify them. The 1760s is a decade when a large wave of Scots come into the area. Steve Ruth Scruggs wrote: >Dear Steve, the Bible and family records in Vol. 1-2 ACPlus, of >Alexander Clark. His Father was Gilbert, a half brother to Kenneth. >Col.Vic traced his line of Clarks. From my understanding, the Thistle >made another trip in 1741, but the passenger list is lost. My James >McDonald appeared in 1760, Cross Creek, Cape Fear River,200 acre land >grant from the King. He wasn't a Loyalist, so he didn't fight against >the Rev. war. We are not sure >When James came over, but know that he came from Scotland, possibly >Skye. >We have a good record of him till he died in 1810 in Jefferson Co. Ga. >Sincerely, Ruth M. Scruggs > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve E. >Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:48 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraney, Robinson > >Bible records for what family? I only posted the names below because I >already had them transcribed. > >Ruth Scruggs wrote: > > > >>Dear Steve, I think you also have a copy of the Bible Records so I will >>cancel the offer. Ruth M. Scruggs >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve E. >>Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:08 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraney, Robinson >> >>The Argyll Colonists listed as printed as I found them in the Argyll >>Colony Plus: >> >>Thomas Armstrong >>Lachlan McNeill >>Alexander Clark >>Hector McNeill, carver >>John Clark >>Neill McNeill, "Long Neill" >>Archibald Clark >>Nathaniel Smylie >>Alexander Colvin >>Matthew Smylie >>Alexander McAlester >>James Campbell >>Coll McAlester >>Malcolm McNeill >>Hector McAlester >>Torquill McNeill (moved down to Bladen County near the head of the Raft >> >> > > > >>Swamp) >>James McAlester >>Will Stevens >>John McAlester >>Daniel McNeill >>Alexander McKay >>John Cameron >>Hugh McLaughlin >>Daniel McDuffie >>James McLachlan >>Gilbert Patterson >>John McPherson (moved down to Bladen County along the Raft Swamp) >>"Black Neill" McNeill >>Dugal Stewart >>Archibald Buie, Cape Fear River >>Patrick Stewart >>Duncan Buie >>Malcolm Clark >>Daniel Buie >>Miles Ward >>Hugh McCranie >>Samuel McGaw >>Murdock McCranie >>Daniel McDougald >>Duncan Campbell >>Archibald McGill >>Archibald Campbell >>Neill McGill >>Edward Conner >>John Smith >>Neill McNeill >>"Little Neill" McNeill >>Hector McNeill >>Archibald Buie, Gum Swamp >>Archibald McNeill >>Dugald McNeill >>Hugh Ward >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> >> >> >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fran, I have been had. Spent all my worklife in Charlotte, N.C. Retired in S.C. Payed $20.00 plust copy cost for my last request. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fran" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Help with deed > [email protected] writes: > Why don't you contact the NC Dept of Archives and History and have them > print out a copy for you? > > > Steve, for out of state orders, the NC Archives charges twenty five > dollars. A bit steep for my budget. > > Thanks again. > > fran > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

IF YOU LIVE IN N.C.THE COST NON REFUNDABLE IS JUST $2,00 PLUS COST FOR COPIES. IF YOU LIVE IN SC IT IS $20.00 NON REFUNDABLE PLUS COST FOR COPIES. BOB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve E" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Help with deed Why don't you contact the NC Dept of Archives and History and have them print out a copy for you? They can then send it to you. I don't know what the cost is because I lived about a mile from the archives so I go and find a deed if I want it. They are open on Saturday but close for an hour at lunchtime. Their web address: http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/archives/ Fran wrote: >[email protected] wrote: >It seems you've got some abstracts below. It's always a better idea to >go to the original deed and read it ALL. There are lots of little, >possibly important, details in a deed that an abstract omits. In doing >so you'll have the call numbers of the property so that you can compare >them to call numbers in a later different deed—that way you could >possibly connect separate generations of the same family. > > >Steve, thanks for the information contained in all of the replies you >sent out yesterday. I believe the above summarizes the information you >have sent, so I will not reply to each individual email. > >I thank you for your time and input and have decided you are 100% >correct: to unravel this puzzle I will have to order the deed. I had >hoped someone online might have a copy to scan and send but that is not >what I asked for and it has not happened. > >Thanks again. > >fran > > > > > >>3 Nov 1845-G.W.Melvin, Esq. high Sheriff To John O. >>Daniel...execution-Coll McDougal & others-Charles ONeal-200A >>Wit: Durum Lewis. Feb Term 1846. H.H.Robinson, Clk >> >> >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Steve, the land was at Cross Creek, known as the pine thicket.James' brother-in law was John Newberry Jr.;whose Father founded the town of Cross Creek and built the first grist mill. James sold the land to his Father-in law in 1761, Thomas Matthews Sr. Info on Newberrys from Roy Parker's book, Cumberland Co.A Brief History. I have found a lot of info from William C.Field's books, Abstracts of Deeds.James was a schoolteacher and land speculator, as was his in-laws.Thomas Matthews and son, Jr. were blacksmiths. James had moved to Montgomery Co. by 1779, but is still buying and selling land in Cumberland. 1790 cx.Montgomery Co. has him and his family, minus the daughter Mary, who married a Kirk. We found his will in Jefferson Co. Ga. 1810.5 children on the will, William, the last, born 1781, Yadkins Falls, Montgomery Co.Our line.Proof, Bible record of Great-grandfather and army records.We haven't found the sons, James Jr.,Matthews, and Jacob.We, 4 cousins from different children of William and Rutha Jane Wilson Mcdonald.James Jr.is possibly one of the 3 in Bibb Co. Ga Matthews,children listed as orphans in Wilkinson Co. Ga.Jacob, 1 record in Chesterfield Co. and Lancaster Co. S.C.I have done about all the research I can do.My cousins I guess are still working on it. Sincerely, Ruth M. Scruggs -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve E. Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 12:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraney, Robinson Ruth, Yes, I've read that there was a second group a year or so after the first 1739 group, but never read that the Thistle was the ship used for the second group. And I don't believe there is an extant passenger list for the 39ers, correct? I thought that Malcolm Fowler et. al made the list based on early 1740 deeds to the immigrating highland and lowland Scots along the Cape Fear River ranging from just below Fayetteville in Cumberland Co. up into Harnett County. Please tell where James McDonald's grant was. I have some connections to McDonalds who owned land on Rockfish Creek fairly early, and I haven't been able to identify them. The 1760s is a decade when a large wave of Scots come into the area. Steve Ruth Scruggs wrote: >Dear Steve, the Bible and family records in Vol. 1-2 ACPlus, of >Alexander Clark. His Father was Gilbert, a half brother to Kenneth. >Col.Vic traced his line of Clarks. From my understanding, the Thistle >made another trip in 1741, but the passenger list is lost. My James >McDonald appeared in 1760, Cross Creek, Cape Fear River,200 acre land >grant from the King. He wasn't a Loyalist, so he didn't fight against >the Rev. war. We are not sure >When James came over, but know that he came from Scotland, possibly >Skye. >We have a good record of him till he died in 1810 in Jefferson Co. Ga. >Sincerely, Ruth M. Scruggs > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve E. >Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:48 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraney, Robinson > >Bible records for what family? I only posted the names below because I >already had them transcribed. > >Ruth Scruggs wrote: > > > >>Dear Steve, I think you also have a copy of the Bible Records so I will >>cancel the offer. Ruth M. Scruggs >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve E. >>Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:08 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraney, Robinson >> >>The Argyll Colonists listed as printed as I found them in the Argyll >>Colony Plus: >> >>Thomas Armstrong >>Lachlan McNeill >>Alexander Clark >>Hector McNeill, carver >>John Clark >>Neill McNeill, "Long Neill" >>Archibald Clark >>Nathaniel Smylie >>Alexander Colvin >>Matthew Smylie >>Alexander McAlester >>James Campbell >>Coll McAlester >>Malcolm McNeill >>Hector McAlester >>Torquill McNeill (moved down to Bladen County near the head of the Raft >> >> > > > >>Swamp) >>James McAlester >>Will Stevens >>John McAlester >>Daniel McNeill >>Alexander McKay >>John Cameron >>Hugh McLaughlin >>Daniel McDuffie >>James McLachlan >>Gilbert Patterson >>John McPherson (moved down to Bladen County along the Raft Swamp) >>"Black Neill" McNeill >>Dugal Stewart >>Archibald Buie, Cape Fear River >>Patrick Stewart >>Duncan Buie >>Malcolm Clark >>Daniel Buie >>Miles Ward >>Hugh McCranie >>Samuel McGaw >>Murdock McCranie >>Daniel McDougald >>Duncan Campbell >>Archibald McGill >>Archibald Campbell >>Neill McGill >>Edward Conner >>John Smith >>Neill McNeill >>"Little Neill" McNeill >>Hector McNeill >>Archibald Buie, Gum Swamp >>Archibald McNeill >>Dugald McNeill >>Hugh Ward >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> >> >> >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Steve: Would you do a look-up for me in your two volumes of the Bladen County tax lists, please, for Nevin (Nevon, Neven) Culbreath, Colbraith, Galbreath and also for John Culbreath, Colbraith, Colbreath? Thank you. kit lewis "Steve E." <[email protected]> wrote: I have both volumes of the Bladen County Tax Lists covering the years 1768-1789. If anyone would like a lookup in these two volumes, let me know. Be aware that there are no Bladen tax lists for the years 1773, 1777, 1780-85, or 1788. A few are in alphabetical order, the others appear to be listed as the tax poller found them living along his route. Steve Edgerton ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.

Ruth, Yes, I've read that there was a second group a year or so after the first 1739 group, but never read that the Thistle was the ship used for the second group. And I don't believe there is an extant passenger list for the 39ers, correct? I thought that Malcolm Fowler et. al made the list based on early 1740 deeds to the immigrating highland and lowland Scots along the Cape Fear River ranging from just below Fayetteville in Cumberland Co. up into Harnett County. He made a comprehensive map of those settlers' grants along the river, and included it in on Please tell where James McDonald's grant was. I have some connections to McDonalds who owned land on Rockfish Creek fairly early, and I haven't been able to identify them. The 1760s is a decade when a large wave of Scots come into the area. Steve Ruth Scruggs wrote: >Dear Steve, the Bible and family records in Vol. 1-2 ACPlus, of >Alexander Clark. His Father was Gilbert, a half brother to Kenneth. >Col.Vic traced his line of Clarks. From my understanding, the Thistle >made another trip in 1741, but the passenger list is lost. My James >McDonald appeared in 1760, Cross Creek, Cape Fear River,200 acre land >grant from the King. He wasn't a Loyalist, so he didn't fight against >the Rev. war. We are not sure >When James came over, but know that he came from Scotland, possibly >Skye. >We have a good record of him till he died in 1810 in Jefferson Co. Ga. >Sincerely, Ruth M. Scruggs > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve E. >Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:48 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraney, Robinson > >Bible records for what family? I only posted the names below because I >already had them transcribed. > >Ruth Scruggs wrote: > > > <>Dear Steve, I think you also have a copy of the Bible Records so I will cancel the offer. Ruth M. Scruggs -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve E. Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraney, Robinson The Argyll Colonists listed as printed as I found them in the Argyll Colony Plus: Thomas Armstrong Lachlan McNeill Alexander Clark Hector McNeill, carver John Clark Neill McNeill, "Long Neill" Archibald Clark Nathaniel Smylie Alexander Colvin Matthew Smylie Alexander McAlester James Campbell Coll McAlester Malcolm McNeill Hector McAlester Torquill McNeill (moved down to Bladen County near the head of the Raft Swamp) James McAlester Will Stevens John McAlester Daniel McNeill Alexander McKay John Cameron Hugh McLaughlin Daniel McDuffie James McLachlan Gilbert Patterson John McPherson (moved down to Bladen County along the Raft Swamp) "Black Neill" McNeill Dugal Stewart Archibald Buie, Cape Fear River Patrick Stewart Duncan Buie Malcolm Clark Daniel Buie Miles Ward Hugh McCranie Samuel McGaw Murdock McCranie Daniel McDougald Duncan Campbell Archibald McGill Archibald Campbell Neill McGill Edward Conner John Smith Neill McNeill "Little Neill" McNeill Hector McNeill Archibald Buie, Gum Swamp Archibald McNeill Dugald McNeill Hugh Ward >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> >> >> >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Ruth, Yes, I've read that there was a second group a year or so after the first 1739 group, but never read that the Thistle was the ship used for the second group. And I don't believe there is an extant passenger list for the 39ers, correct? I thought that Malcolm Fowler et. al made the list based on early 1740 deeds to the immigrating highland and lowland Scots along the Cape Fear River ranging from just below Fayetteville in Cumberland Co. up into Harnett County. He made a comprehensive map of those settlers' grants along the river, and included it in one of his books. Please tell where James McDonald's grant was. I have some connections to McDonalds who owned land on Rockfish Creek fairly early, and I haven't been able to identify them. The 1760s is a decade when a large wave of Scots come into the area. Steve Ruth Scruggs wrote: >Dear Steve, the Bible and family records in Vol. 1-2 ACPlus, of >Alexander Clark. His Father was Gilbert, a half brother to Kenneth. >Col.Vic traced his line of Clarks. From my understanding, the Thistle >made another trip in 1741, but the passenger list is lost. My James >McDonald appeared in 1760, Cross Creek, Cape Fear River,200 acre land >grant from the King. He wasn't a Loyalist, so he didn't fight against >the Rev. war. We are not sure >When James came over, but know that he came from Scotland, possibly >Skye. >We have a good record of him till he died in 1810 in Jefferson Co. Ga. >Sincerely, Ruth M. Scruggs > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve E. >Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:48 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraney, Robinson > >Bible records for what family? I only posted the names below because I >already had them transcribed. > >Ruth Scruggs wrote: > > > >>Dear Steve, I think you also have a copy of the Bible Records so I will >>cancel the offer. Ruth M. Scruggs >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve E. >>Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:08 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraney, Robinson >> >>The Argyll Colonists listed as printed as I found them in the Argyll >>Colony Plus: >> >>Thomas Armstrong >>Lachlan McNeill >>Alexander Clark >>Hector McNeill, carver >>John Clark >>Neill McNeill, "Long Neill" >>Archibald Clark >>Nathaniel Smylie >>Alexander Colvin >>Matthew Smylie >>Alexander McAlester >>James Campbell >>Coll McAlester >>Malcolm McNeill >>Hector McAlester >>Torquill McNeill (moved down to Bladen County near the head of the Raft >> >> > > > >>Swamp) >>James McAlester >>Will Stevens >>John McAlester >>Daniel McNeill >>Alexander McKay >>John Cameron >>Hugh McLaughlin >>Daniel McDuffie >>James McLachlan >>Gilbert Patterson >>John McPherson (moved down to Bladen County along the Raft Swamp) >>"Black Neill" McNeill >>Dugal Stewart >>Archibald Buie, Cape Fear River >>Patrick Stewart >>Duncan Buie >>Malcolm Clark >>Daniel Buie >>Miles Ward >>Hugh McCranie >>Samuel McGaw >>Murdock McCranie >>Daniel McDougald >>Duncan Campbell >>Archibald McGill >>Archibald Campbell >>Neill McGill >>Edward Conner >>John Smith >>Neill McNeill >>"Little Neill" McNeill >>Hector McNeill >>Archibald Buie, Gum Swamp >>Archibald McNeill >>Dugald McNeill >>Hugh Ward >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> >> >> >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Ruth, Yes, I've read that there was a second group a year or so after the first 1739 group, but never read that the Thistle was the ship used for the second group. And I don't believe there is an extant passenger list for the 39ers, correct? I thought that Malcolm Fowler et. al made the list based on early 1740 deeds to the immigrating highland and lowland Scots along the Cape Fear River ranging from just below Fayetteville in Cumberland Co. up into Harnett County. Please tell where James McDonald's grant was. I have some connections to McDonalds who owned land on Rockfish Creek fairly early, and I haven't been able to identify them. The 1760s is a decade when a large wave of Scots come into the area. Steve Ruth Scruggs wrote: >Dear Steve, the Bible and family records in Vol. 1-2 ACPlus, of >Alexander Clark. His Father was Gilbert, a half brother to Kenneth. >Col.Vic traced his line of Clarks. From my understanding, the Thistle >made another trip in 1741, but the passenger list is lost. My James >McDonald appeared in 1760, Cross Creek, Cape Fear River,200 acre land >grant from the King. He wasn't a Loyalist, so he didn't fight against >the Rev. war. We are not sure >When James came over, but know that he came from Scotland, possibly >Skye. >We have a good record of him till he died in 1810 in Jefferson Co. Ga. >Sincerely, Ruth M. Scruggs > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve E. >Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:48 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraney, Robinson > >Bible records for what family? I only posted the names below because I >already had them transcribed. > >Ruth Scruggs wrote: > > > >>Dear Steve, I think you also have a copy of the Bible Records so I will >>cancel the offer. Ruth M. Scruggs >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve E. >>Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:08 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraney, Robinson >> >>The Argyll Colonists listed as printed as I found them in the Argyll >>Colony Plus: >> >>Thomas Armstrong >>Lachlan McNeill >>Alexander Clark >>Hector McNeill, carver >>John Clark >>Neill McNeill, "Long Neill" >>Archibald Clark >>Nathaniel Smylie >>Alexander Colvin >>Matthew Smylie >>Alexander McAlester >>James Campbell >>Coll McAlester >>Malcolm McNeill >>Hector McAlester >>Torquill McNeill (moved down to Bladen County near the head of the Raft >> >> > > > >>Swamp) >>James McAlester >>Will Stevens >>John McAlester >>Daniel McNeill >>Alexander McKay >>John Cameron >>Hugh McLaughlin >>Daniel McDuffie >>James McLachlan >>Gilbert Patterson >>John McPherson (moved down to Bladen County along the Raft Swamp) >>"Black Neill" McNeill >>Dugal Stewart >>Archibald Buie, Cape Fear River >>Patrick Stewart >>Duncan Buie >>Malcolm Clark >>Daniel Buie >>Miles Ward >>Hugh McCranie >>Samuel McGaw >>Murdock McCranie >>Daniel McDougald >>Duncan Campbell >>Archibald McGill >>Archibald Campbell >>Neill McGill >>Edward Conner >>John Smith >>Neill McNeill >>"Little Neill" McNeill >>Hector McNeill >>Archibald Buie, Gum Swamp >>Archibald McNeill >>Dugald McNeill >>Hugh Ward >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> >> >> >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

[email protected] writes: Why don't you contact the NC Dept of Archives and History and have them print out a copy for you? Steve, for out of state orders, the NC Archives charges twenty five dollars. A bit steep for my budget. Thanks again. fran ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message