In a message dated 2/1/2007 8:14:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, HEW4010 writes: Harriett Lennie Ellen's parents were Alex B. Wood b abt 1871 and Lucinda Young b. Oct 1875 in Johnston Co. Meadow Township and died 15 Jan 1950 in Harnett Co, Alex and Lucinda are buried in Greenwood cemetery in Dunn Lucinda was the daughter of A.Dobbs and Jennie Young, you can find them in 1880 Johnston Co census. Found this on Johnston co. site, hope this help and hope to hear from you. Helen Obituary ID: 57615 Name (Age): WOOD, Lucinda (74) Obit. Pub. Date: 01/17/1950 Other Pub. Info.: Rt. 2, Benson, w/o A. D. Wood, family Cemetery . Obituary ID: 57615 Name (Age): WOOD, Lucinda (74) Obit. Pub. Date: 01/17/1950 Other Pub. Info.: Rt. 2, Benson, w/o A. D. Wood, family Cemetery

In a message dated 2/1/2007 8:14:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, HEW4010 writes: Harriett Lennie Ellen's parents were Alex B. Wood b abt 1871 and Lucinda Young b. Oct 1875 in Johnston Co. Meadow Township and died 15 Jan 1950 in Harnett Co, Alex and Lucinda are buried in Greenwood cemetery in Dunn Lucinda was the daughter of A.Dobbs and Jennie Young, you can find them in 1880 Johnston Co census. Found this on Johnston co. site, hope this help and hope to hear from you. Helen Obituary ID: 57615 Name (Age): WOOD, Lucinda (74) Obit. Pub. Date: 01/17/1950 Other Pub. Info.: Rt. 2, Benson, w/o A. D. Wood, family Cemetery . Obituary ID: 57615 Name (Age): WOOD, Lucinda (74) Obit. Pub. Date: 01/17/1950 Other Pub. Info.: Rt. 2, Benson, w/o A. D. Wood, family Cemetery

Thanks for your reply Cornelia. I didn't know that about Harnett Co in today's time. My Clark line goes through Alexander Clark, the father of Catherine. She and her family lived on Buffalo Creek and Alexander owned over 900 acres and a "mansion" according to a Fayetteville Observer obit for one of Alexander's children. I own Mr. Vann Comer's book about Buffalo Presbyterian already. It doesn't have much on my Clark line, but a lot of other information. Thanks again for your response. ~ Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraine, Thompson, Kelly, McIver, CLARK > > Yipes....so Buffalo Presbyterian is in Lee Co?? This part of the Buffalo > Creek - is it even close to Cumberland, or would anyone know why someone > would have left Lee/Moore Co and married in Cumberland in 1822.....just > wondering if it was a county change, or if one town was just closer than > the > other? > Sorry....perhaps I should be posting in the Moore or Lee Co? > Thanks. ~ Mary > > Yes, > Lee was formed out of Moore in 1907. > Moore was formed out of Cumberland in 1784. > In 1855, Harnett County was formed out of Cumberland, and was adjacent > to > Lee. (Today, in going from Cumberland County to Lee County, one must go > through Harnett.) > > In a previous email, there was mention of Daniel Roderick McIver. > >>>Catherine who married Daniel Roderick McIver, son of Little John and >>>Mary >>McIver > > The McIvers were of Moore County and were members of Buffalo Presbyterian > Church. I don't know where Catherine Clark was from, but by 1822, Daniel > would > not have had to go far, perhaps over the line in what is now Harnett > County > to have married Catherine. (If that is who you are talking about.) > > James Van Comer has done extensive research on Moore County, and wrote a > booklet about Buffalo Church. I am not sure of the name of the book, but > I > think it was "Bountiful Legacy of a > Mother". > > Hope this helps, > Cornelia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.15/659 - Release Date: 1/30/2007 > 9:31 AM > >

Legal marriage records were recorded in the home county of the BRIDE, not the groom. [email protected] wrote: >Yipes....so Buffalo Presbyterian is in Lee Co?? This part of the Buffalo >Creek - is it even close to Cumberland, or would anyone know why someone >would have left Lee/Moore Co and married in Cumberland in 1822.....just >wondering if it was a county change, or if one town was just closer than the >other? >Sorry....perhaps I should be posting in the Moore or Lee Co? >Thanks. ~ Mary > >Yes, >Lee was formed out of Moore in 1907. > Moore was formed out of Cumberland in 1784. >In 1855, Harnett County was formed out of Cumberland, and was adjacent to >Lee. (Today, in going from Cumberland County to Lee County, one must go >through Harnett.) > >In a previous email, there was mention of Daniel Roderick McIver. > > > >>>Catherine who married Daniel Roderick McIver, son of Little John and Mary >>> >>> >>McIver >> >> > >The McIvers were of Moore County and were members of Buffalo Presbyterian >Church. I don't know where Catherine Clark was from, but by 1822, Daniel would >not have had to go far, perhaps over the line in what is now Harnett County >to have married Catherine. (If that is who you are talking about.) > >James Van Comer has done extensive research on Moore County, and wrote a >booklet about Buffalo Church. I am not sure of the name of the book, but I >think it was "Bountiful Legacy of a >Mother". > >Hope this helps, >Cornelia > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Marriages were listed in the home county of the BRIDE, not the groom. [email protected] wrote: >Yipes....so Buffalo Presbyterian is in Lee Co?? This part of the Buffalo >Creek - is it even close to Cumberland, or would anyone know why someone >would have left Lee/Moore Co and married in Cumberland in 1822.....just >wondering if it was a county change, or if one town was just closer than the >other? >Sorry....perhaps I should be posting in the Moore or Lee Co? >Thanks. ~ Mary > >Yes, >Lee was formed out of Moore in 1907. > Moore was formed out of Cumberland in 1784. >In 1855, Harnett County was formed out of Cumberland, and was adjacent to >Lee. (Today, in going from Cumberland County to Lee County, one must go >through Harnett.) > >In a previous email, there was mention of Daniel Roderick McIver. > > > >>>Catherine who married Daniel Roderick McIver, son of Little John and Mary >>> >>> >>McIver >> >> > >The McIvers were of Moore County and were members of Buffalo Presbyterian >Church. I don't know where Catherine Clark was from, but by 1822, Daniel would >not have had to go far, perhaps over the line in what is now Harnett County >to have married Catherine. (If that is who you are talking about.) > >James Van Comer has done extensive research on Moore County, and wrote a >booklet about Buffalo Church. I am not sure of the name of the book, but I >think it was "Bountiful Legacy of a >Mother". > >Hope this helps, >Cornelia > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Yipes....so Buffalo Presbyterian is in Lee Co?? This part of the Buffalo Creek - is it even close to Cumberland, or would anyone know why someone would have left Lee/Moore Co and married in Cumberland in 1822.....just wondering if it was a county change, or if one town was just closer than the other? Sorry....perhaps I should be posting in the Moore or Lee Co? Thanks. ~ Mary Yes, Lee was formed out of Moore in 1907. Moore was formed out of Cumberland in 1784. In 1855, Harnett County was formed out of Cumberland, and was adjacent to Lee. (Today, in going from Cumberland County to Lee County, one must go through Harnett.) In a previous email, there was mention of Daniel Roderick McIver. >>Catherine who married Daniel Roderick McIver, son of Little John and Mary >McIver The McIvers were of Moore County and were members of Buffalo Presbyterian Church. I don't know where Catherine Clark was from, but by 1822, Daniel would not have had to go far, perhaps over the line in what is now Harnett County to have married Catherine. (If that is who you are talking about.) James Van Comer has done extensive research on Moore County, and wrote a booklet about Buffalo Church. I am not sure of the name of the book, but I think it was "Bountiful Legacy of a Mother". Hope this helps, Cornelia

Harriett Lennie Ellen's parents were Alex B. Wood b abt 1871 and Lucinda Young b. Oct 1875 in Johnston Co. Meadow Township and died 15 Jan 1950 in Harnett Co, Alex and Lucinda are buried in Greenwood cemetery in Dunn Lucinda was the daughter of A.Dobbs and Jennie Young, you can find them in 1880 Johnston Co census. Found this on Johnston co. site, hope this help and hope to hear from you. Helen Obituary ID: 57615 Name (Age): WOOD, Lucinda (74) Obit. Pub. Date: 01/17/1950 Other Pub. Info.: Rt. 2, Benson, w/o A. D. Wood, family Cemetery . Obituary ID: 57615 Name (Age): WOOD, Lucinda (74) Obit. Pub. Date: 01/17/1950 Other Pub. Info.: Rt. 2, Benson, w/o A. D. Wood, family Cemetery

Hi Beverly I have access to Harnett death cert. found this E. Alexander Bolton B. 29 May 1869, son of William A. Bolton and Sarah Miller, death cert. said's he lived in Erwin and is buried at Parker Groves Cemetery, informant was A.H. Bolton of Buies Creek Sarah Miller Bolton, was daughter of Alexander Miller, d. 29 Jun 1922, at 74 years of age buried at Parker Groves Cemetery, she lived in Erwin, informant A.H. Bolton of Duke My 4th great-grandfather Kader Parker donated the land that is now Parker Grove Cemetery. My Mason married into the Boltons in Linden, I am descendent from the Wood's, Mason's Parker's from Linden Is this your Willie Hubbard; Willie James Hubbard, b. 25 May 1892 d. 29 Mar 1972, son of John Edward and Mary Ellen Bunce Hubbard, buried at Magnolia Church Cemetery, Stedman, Cumberland Co. Hope this helps and hope to hear from you. Helen

Yes, if it's not too much trouble. I know I had it at one time, but cannot seem to find it all right now. Thanks again. ~ Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraine, Thompson, Kelly, McIver, CLARK > > Oops, I didn't include the message! I have information on the McIvers. > Would you like for me to send it? > > Also a McIver, > Cornelia > > > > > Catherine who married Daniel Roderick McIver, son of Little John and Mary > McIver > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.15/659 - Release Date: 1/30/2007 > 9:31 AM > >

Yipes....so Buffalo Presbyterian is in Lee Co?? This part of the Buffalo Creek - is it even close to Cumberland, or would anyone know why someone would have left Lee/Moore Co and married in Cumberland in 1822.....just wondering if it was a county change, or if one town was just closer than the other? Sorry....perhaps I should be posting in the Moore or Lee Co? Thanks. ~ Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraine, Thompson, Kelly, McIver, CLARK > > Were Beaverdam Presbyterian Church and Buffalo Presbyterian Church the > same church? > No. Buffalo Presbyterian Church is in present Lee County, previously > Moore > County. Buffalo was the Mother Church of successive churches in Moore > County. Established in the 1790s, I think. Beaverdam is in Cumberland > County. > > Cornelia > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.15/659 - Release Date: 1/30/2007 > 9:31 AM > >

Hi Steve. I know nothing about John McPherson. I only know of the marriage from a family bible that someone in Calloway Co Kentucky has (most of my Clark line still lives in the South Pleasant Grove area of Calloway Co). A Clark relative sent me copies of pages from Alexander Clark's Bible. To the best of my knowledge, Buffalo Presbyterian and Beaverdam are not the same church. The only McNeill's mentioned in the index of the book are the following -- Mayor Abner Landis McNeill Alexander Hamilton McNeill Beatrice McNeill Brothers McNeill of Fayetteville Duncan McNeill Flora McNeill Rev. George McNeill H. McNeill Hecton McNeill Capt James H. McNeill Deacon James L. McNeill Dr. John Norman MeNeill Rev. Malcom Daniel McNeill Mary Ann McNeill Mr. Deacon McNeill Neil McNeill Noah McNeill Roger McNeill William McNeill You can get a copy of the book from the author, James Vann Comer - I think if you do a search for Myrtle Bridge's genealogy website, there is a link there to check out Mr. Vann Comer's work, and I think an address on how to order the book. ~ Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve E." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Shaw, McCraine, Thompson, Kelly, McIver, CLARK > Donnie and Mary, > > Do you know what John McPherson married the Flora Kelly? Were they > married in KY or NC? Do you know anything at all about him? I have done > a lot of research on the various McPherson families of Cumberland and > the region. Perhaps we can compare notes. > > Were Beaverdam Presbyterian Church and Buffalo Presbyterian Church the > same church? I'm pretty ignorant of those congregations in that part of > the region. My ancestor Turquill McNeill of the Buffalo area was my > ancestor, and it appears he may have attended or been a member of > Beaverdam Presbyterian Church. His sons and a son-in-law attended. > > Where might I get a copy of "Bountiful Legacy of a Mother"? > Thanks, > Steve > [email protected] > > Donnie and Mary Young wrote: > >>Alexander Clark - Buffalo Creek area - founder of Buffalo Presbyterian >>Church (I have the book - Bountiful Legacy of a Mother), married Margaret >>Thompson (believed to be related to Daniel, possibly both the child of >>Malcolm Thompson), then married Margaret McRaine/McCraine in 1822 >>Cumberland >>Co. The marriage bond was signed also by an Alan McLean - anyone know who >>this might be? >>Alexander and Margaret Thompson Clark had several children - >>Mary who married Miles Kelly, son of Duncan and Mary Kelly >>Malcom/Malcolm who married Sarah Kelly, sister of Miles, daughter of >>Duncan >>and Mary Kelly >>Catherine who married Daniel Roderick McIver, son of Little John and Mary >>McIver >>Flora who married an Alexander Shaw, though I know the least about this >>couple >>I think there was also a Daniel Clark, but he died prior to 1830. >>Alexander >>died after 1830, and left his "mansion" and 239 acres surrounding it to >>his >>second wife Margaret McRaine. He left his children his remaining 718 >>acres >>of land. His daughter, Mary Clark Kelly's obit was in the Fayetteville >>Observer in 1858. >> >>>From what I know about the Kelly family -- Duncan Kelly probably died in >>Scotland or NC. Duncan's wife, Mary, was born approximately 1764, and >>died >>Dec 6, 1859 in Calloway Co Kentucky. She and several (probably all) of >>her >>children are buried in South Pleasant Grove Cemetery in Calloway Co >>Kentucky >>along with a lot of the Clark children and later generations. I also know >>that several other families with ties to Cumberland and Moore Co ended up >>in >>Calloway Co (I know there are Wicker's buried in South Pleasant Grove >>Cemetery) >>Duncan Kelly b 1781 died 1876 married to Sarah b 1792 >>Daniel Kelly b 1793 d May 19, 1873 his headstone is marked as born in >>Scotland >>Miles b Sept 15, 1803 d Jan 14, 1869 his headstone marked also as born in >>Scotland >>Sallie/Sarah b 1806, d May 7, 1872 >>Flora b 1800 d 1845 married to John McPherson who was born 1803 and died >>1837 >> >>There are a lot of gaps. I would really like to solve the mystery of >>Alexander Clark's parentage or who his siblings are. I am also interested >>in hearing from someone who has more information on the Kelly, Clark, >>Thompson, Shaw, or McPherson lines that connect. I have (somewhere) a >>bunch >>of stuff on the McIver line. >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.15/659 - Release Date: 1/30/2007 > 9:31 AM > >

I continue to read with interest all the posts that use the subject line "William Hair and Willis West". So far no one using that subject line is researching Willis West, so I respectfully changed it to reflect the topic of interest. Fran >>>> 1786 Sampson County, William HAIR and Willis WEST were involved in >>>> a >>>> lawsuit with William HAIR being the plaintiff. In the court record >>>> that >>>> I have, the case is described as "Genl Issue". I would like to >>>> correspond with >>>> anyone having knowledge of this case. >>>> >>>> I am not researching the HAIR family and have no information on >>>> William >>>> HAIR other than the above statement. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes you can be tested for your mothers line. It goes to her mother then her mother, etc. The male has the mothers mitochondrial or mtDNA but does not pass it on to his offspring. The Y DNA however is only passed on from son to son but not to the daughters. It is a separate test but can be performed on the same sample. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Cercy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > A couple more questions about DNA testing. > > Can a male be tested for the maternal line DNA? Is there such a test? > Does > one only carry the DNA of one line? > > Thanks. > >>From: "Gilbert Ray" <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? >>Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:27:11 -0500 >> >>Hi Betty, Sorry about the delay in replying. I'm not sure if we're >>connected or not. I'm actually related to two Ray families in NC. One on >>my gggrandmothers side is from Robeson county NC. Her husband my >>gggrandfather moved to Cheraw SC in the 1830's or 40's but died soon after >>and his wife Ann Ray Ray moved back to NC after his death. The only way >>to >>check actual connections is through the DNA test but it has to be a Male >>Ray >>descendent. The female will not carry the Y chromosome that they use to >>do >>the tracing. It is passed male to male to male only in a straight line >>and >>is a small portion of the DNA that we all carry. I go by Mac. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Betty Lee Streckfuss" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:22 PM >>Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? >> >> >> > Gilbert, Have I asked you if you are connected to Louis Hamilton Ray b. >> > 1808? He married Mary "Polly" Moses and they moved from S.C. to >> > Mississippi and their children were: John, Nathan, Nancy, Elizabeth (my >> > ancestor who married John Robuck then my line..John Mason) Rebecca, >> > Nathan, Francisco. Elizabeth and her sister Rebecca married brothers >> > Elizabeth who married my John Mason and Rebecca married Daniel Mason. >> > They must have been great friends, the men were in the same Itawamba >> > Ms. >> > Masonic Lodge, moved to Alabama together where John died and Elizabeth >> > continued to live next door to Daniel and Rebecca, their sister >>Elizabeth >> > Mason was also living with them in Alabama. John was my GrGrGranddad. >> > Betty >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Gilbert Ray<mailto:[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:46 PM >> > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? >> > >> > >> > Neal, If you're wanting the male side of your DNA I've already had it >> > done >> > and will be glad to share it with you. Otherwise there are several >> > companies that will do that. One is Family Tree DNA at >> > www.familytreedna.com<http://www.familytreedna.com/> where I had mine >> > done. Mac >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> > To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:51 PM >> > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? >> > >> > >> > > How do you get the DNA done? >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> > with >> > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> > of >> > the message >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get live scores and news about your team: Add the Live.com Football Page > http://www.live.com/?addtemplate=football > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Oops, I didn't include the message! I have information on the McIvers. Would you like for me to send it? Also a McIver, Cornelia Catherine who married Daniel Roderick McIver, son of Little John and Mary McIver

Woodrow , I am located in Winston-Salem but think I'm to all the Hubbards in Stedman - my father was born and raised there. Beverly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Woodrow Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Hubbards and Hair's from Stedman Area > Blake, I know the Hubbards from Stedman. In fact my wife attended church > with the Hubbards at Oak Grove Pentecostal Free Will Baptist Church in > Stedman. We know most of the Hubbards personally. Where are you > located? > Woodrow > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vance Carter" <[email protected]> > To: "Beverly Godfrey" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:01 PM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Hubbards and Hair's from Stedman Area > > >> Stedman, NC area. They have a family reunion every year. >> >> Vance Carter >> >> Beverly Godfrey <[email protected]> wrote: >> Woodrow >> I saw your message about the Hair's and your wife being from the Stedman >> area. I am a Hubbard, my father is from Stedman . He had a brother Euland >> who married Lois Hair. I'm trying to find more information on the Hubbard >> side of my family - wondering if you have any or know of any connections >> to the Hubbards? >> Beverly >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.18/662 - Release Date: >> 1/31/2007 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Betty, Sorry about the delay in replying. I'm not sure if we're connected or not. I'm actually related to two Ray families in NC. One on my gggrandmothers side is from Robeson county NC. Her husband my gggrandfather moved to Cheraw SC in the 1830's or 40's but died soon after and his wife Ann Ray Ray moved back to NC after his death. The only way to check actual connections is through the DNA test but it has to be a Male Ray descendent. The female will not carry the Y chromosome that they use to do the tracing. It is passed male to male to male only in a straight line and is a small portion of the DNA that we all carry. I go by Mac. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Lee Streckfuss" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > Gilbert, Have I asked you if you are connected to Louis Hamilton Ray b. > 1808? He married Mary "Polly" Moses and they moved from S.C. to > Mississippi and their children were: John, Nathan, Nancy, Elizabeth (my > ancestor who married John Robuck then my line..John Mason) Rebecca, > Nathan, Francisco. Elizabeth and her sister Rebecca married brothers > Elizabeth who married my John Mason and Rebecca married Daniel Mason. > They must have been great friends, the men were in the same Itawamba Ms. > Masonic Lodge, moved to Alabama together where John died and Elizabeth > continued to live next door to Daniel and Rebecca, their sister Elizabeth > Mason was also living with them in Alabama. John was my GrGrGranddad. > Betty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gilbert Ray<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:46 PM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > Neal, If you're wanting the male side of your DNA I've already had it > done > and will be glad to share it with you. Otherwise there are several > companies that will do that. One is Family Tree DNA at > www.familytreedna.com<http://www.familytreedna.com/> where I had mine > done. Mac > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:51 PM > Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] DNA? > > > > How do you get the DNA done? > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have found out that Grandmother LAnnie Ellen Wood was born 8/1/1901 and died 10/2/1973. Her father was AB Wood who was a judge in Johnston County, her Mothers name was Lucinda Wood... Does anyone know any information of grandparents of these two or anything that would be helpful. Any thing would be greatly appreciated. Harriet Harriet Lovick Administration and Finance Southern Regional AHEC 1601 Owen Drive Fayetteville, NC 28304 910-678-7228 910-678-7279 Fax Fayetteville, NC 28304 >>> On 2/1/2007 at 2:14 PM, in message <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> wrote: Harriett What was your fathers name, do you know where Lannie Ellen Wood died? Was her maiden name Tyndall? Helen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************************************************ The information contained in this e-mail message is Legally Privileged and Confidential Information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify us by telephone (910 678-7273) or e-mail so we may correct our e-mail addressing error and then please destroy the original message. ************************************************************************

Helen, Thank you for your response. I do have a set of the Rosser books. They were given to me by my cousin Bonner Hubbard. Willie Hubbard and Carrie Williams Hubbard are my grand parents. I have information back to my great, great grandfather John H Hubbard who was born 1834 in Portland Maine and came to NC prior to 1861 - he joined the CSA in 1861. Information about him prior to coming to NC, his parents and/or any of his siblings is my "brick wall". I have interviewed all the Hubbards I can with no luck. John H had a daughter named Harriet who married Edward Alexander Bolton 20 Dec 1888. John H Hubbard, Harriet and Edward are all buried in Linden, NC. I am now looking for any relatives in the Bolton line who might have information on their grandmother Harriet and her family. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Beverly ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [NCCUMBER] Hubbards and Hair's from Stedman Area > > Beverly, > this info is from set of books by John C. Rosser, Jr on the Williams > family: > Eulon Elliot Hubbard was born 29 Apr. 1933 in Cedar Creek Township and > died > 22 Oct. 1970 in Fayetteville. "Euland" married Lois Arline Hairr who was > born > 13 mar 1937 Dismal Township, daughter of John Raymond Hairr and Nora > Pearl > Page. He is buried at Magnolia Baptist Church. > > Eulon was the son of Willie James Hubbard and Carrie Williams > > Have a lot more info, just let me know what you need. Hope to hear from > you. > Helen Ennis Williams > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Oops, I didn't include the message! I have information on the McIvers. Would you like for me to send it? Also a McIver, Cornelia Catherine who married Daniel Roderick McIver, son of Little John and Mary McIver

In a message dated 2/1/2007 12:24:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Alexander Clark - Buffalo Creek area - founder of Buffalo Presbyterian Church (I have the book - Bountiful Legacy of a Mother), married Margaret Thompson (believed to be related to Daniel, possibly both the child of Malcolm Thompson), then married Margaret McRaine/McCraine in 1822 Cumberland Co. The marriage bond was signed also by an Alan McLean - anyone know who this might be? Alexander and Margaret Thompson Clark had several children - Mary who married Miles Kelly, son of Duncan and Mary Kelly Malcom/Malcolm who married Sarah Kelly, sister of Miles, daughter of Duncan and Mary Kelly Catherine who married Daniel Roderick McIver, son of Little John and Mary McIver Flora who married an Alexander Shaw, though I know the least about this couple I think there was also a Daniel Clark, but he died prior to 1830. Alexander died after 1830, and left his "mansion" and 239 acres surrounding it to his second wife Margaret McRaine. He left his children his remaining 718 acres of land. His daughter, Mary Clark Kelly's obit was in the Fayetteville Observer in 1858. >From what I know about the Kelly family -- Duncan Kelly probably died in Scotland or NC. Duncan's wife, Mary, was born approximately 1764, and died Dec 6, 1859 in Calloway Co Kentucky. She and several (probably all) of her children are buried in South Pleasant Grove Cemetery in Calloway Co Kentucky along with a lot of the Clark children and later generations. I also know that several other families with ties to Cumberland and Moore Co ended up in Calloway Co (I know there are Wicker's buried in South Pleasant Grove Cemetery) Duncan Kelly b 1781 died 1876 married to Sarah b 1792 Daniel Kelly b 1793 d May 19, 1873 his headstone is marked as born in Scotland Miles b Sept 15, 1803 d Jan 14, 1869 his headstone marked also as born in Scotland Sallie/Sarah b 1806, d May 7, 1872 Flora b 1800 d 1845 married to John McPherson who was born 1803 and died 1837 There are a lot of gaps. I would really like to solve the mystery of Alexander Clark's parentage or who his siblings are. I am also interested in hearing from someone who has more information on the Kelly, Clark, Thompson, Shaw, or McPherson lines that connect. I have (somewhere) a bunch of stuff on the McIver line.