Was she born in 1854?

my gr-father, Emil Duyck, came to usa from Belgium in 1888. Can anyone tell me on what ship he sailed? Any other family members? Dates, etc. Any info would be greatly appreciated Thanks Sarah mapoppins@yahoo.com

My husband is related to Carlotta Payne and Samuel Newman. -----Original Message----- From: WFORDSUE@aol.com <WFORDSUE@aol.com> To: NCCHEROK-L@rootsweb.com <NCCHEROK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [NCCHEROK] Gen. Books >Hi Khristy - good chance that "our" Paynes are related. If you can find out >Bud's real legal name, I'll be glad to do some checking for you. They were >all from that same general area, so I'd be almost willing to bit they are >related somehow. > > >==== NCCHEROK Mailing List ==== >Cherokee County KYGenWeb page - http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccherok/index.html >

Hi Khristy - good chance that "our" Paynes are related. If you can find out Bud's real legal name, I'll be glad to do some checking for you. They were all from that same general area, so I'd be almost willing to bit they are related somehow.

In a message dated 10/16/99 10:54:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, WFORDSUE@aol.com writes: << I have just ordered but haven't received "Cherokee by Blood" by Tony McClure, as I am trying to verify my Cherokee ancestry through the Munday/Mundy family and the Payne family from Cherokee County. I hear it's a great source. >> Sorry to intrude on the conversation, but I noticed in my research that my great grandmother Mary Galloway had a sister, Gladys Mae Galloway, who is supposed to have married a Bud PAYNE (what Bud stands for, I don't know). Anyway, they were from the Fry, GA area which is in Fannin Co., GA, just over the border from Polk Co., TN and Cherokee Co., NC. Just wondered if there might be a connection. Khristy Stull SAPP in NC

Is anyone on the list researching Bruce's? Or is there anyone that could perform an 1880 and 1900 census look-up for me on the Bruce Surname? Thanks for any help, Joan Duvall

Could one of your PAYNEs have been Naomi PAYNE, who married John London MCCUBBIN and had Naomi Mathilda "Tildi" MCCUBIN who married Dempsey MORRIS. I prey so, I am Mickey in SO IN. Researching MORRIS, MCCUBBIN(S), PAYNE AND BLOYD. Mathilda is my g-grandmother and Naomi was my g-ggrandmother. Nativamden@aol.com wrote: > > If you are looking for a source to identify the Payne's who were enrolled > members of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, they are all listed in a > book titled "1924 Baker Roll, The Final Roll of the Eastern Band of Cherokee > Indians of North Carolina" by, Bob Blankenship. This includes the birth > dates, degree of Indian blood, residence by city and state, and relation to > the applicant. I purchased this book at Talking Leaves Book Store in > Cherokee, North Carolina. There are 42 Payne's listed. I have the book by > Tony McClure and it is a reference book to other publications - not a > resource for individual ancestors. > > ==== NCCHEROK Mailing List ==== > Please share your information about Cherokee Co. people and places with the list... thats what makes it work! > > To post to the list: nccherok-l@rootsweb.com

Hi Diane, Which of the Queens are you related to Janie

If you are looking for a source to identify the Payne's who were enrolled members of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, they are all listed in a book titled "1924 Baker Roll, The Final Roll of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians of North Carolina" by, Bob Blankenship. This includes the birth dates, degree of Indian blood, residence by city and state, and relation to the applicant. I purchased this book at Talking Leaves Book Store in Cherokee, North Carolina. There are 42 Payne's listed. I have the book by Tony McClure and it is a reference book to other publications - not a resource for individual ancestors.

Knox co has a webpage at the following link. http://www.wdbj.net/~tnknox/index.html Patty Brock Curtis Young wrote: > Does any one know of a research site for the Knox Co,TN area?? > > Thanks, > > Curtis Young > > Also I am trying to locate anyone from P.Lewis (P.L.) Young, 1st marriage > with Elvira Lattimore. (I know its a long shot but there has to be someone > out there) > > Thanks again! > > ==== NCCHEROK Mailing List ==== > Please share your information about Cherokee Co. people and places with the list... thats what makes it work! > > To post to the list: nccherok-l@rootsweb.com

Does any one know of a research site for the Knox Co,TN area?? Thanks, Curtis Young Also I am trying to locate anyone from P.Lewis (P.L.) Young, 1st marriage with Elvira Lattimore. (I know its a long shot but there has to be someone out there) Thanks again!

Hi Diann - the basic book on genealogy which has been most helpful to me is "The Researcher's Guide to American Genealogy" by Val D. Greenwood. I have the 2nd edition but it has probably been updated since that was published 1990. I have just ordered but haven't received "Cherokee by Blood" by Tony McClure, as I am trying to verify my Cherokee ancestry through the Munday/Mundy family and the Payne family from Cherokee County. I hear it's a great source. Have a great day.

(How True, How True) If Noah lived in the United States today... And the Lord spoke to Noah and said, "In one year, I am going to make it rain and cover the whole earth with water until all flesh is destroyed. But I want you to save the righteous people and two of every kind of living thing on the earth. Therefore, I am commanding you to build an Ark." In a flash of lightening, God delivered the specifications for an Ark. In fear and trembling, Noah took the plans and agreed to build the Ark. "Remember" said the Lord, "You must complete the Ark and bring everything aboard in one year." Exactly one year later, fierce storm clouds covered the earth and all the seas of the earth went into a tumult. The Lord saw that Noah was sitting in his front yard weeping. "Noah", He shouted. "Where is the Ark?" "Lord, please forgive me!" Cried Noah. "I did my best, but there were big problems. First, I had to get a permit for construction and your plans did not meet the codes. I had to hire an engineering firm and redraw the plans. "Then I got into a fight with OSHA over whether or not the Ark needed a fire sprinkler system and floatation devices. "Then my neighbor objected, claiming I was violating zoning ordinances by building the Ark in my front yard, so I had to get a variance from the city planning commission "Then I had problems getting enough wood for the Ark, because there was a ban on cutting trees to protect the Spotted Owl. I finally convinced the US Forest Service that I needed the wood to save the owls. However, the Fish and Wildlife Service won't let me catch any owls. So, no owls. "The carpenters formed a union and went out on strike. I had to negotiate a settlement with the National Labor Relations Board before anyone would pick up a saw or a hammer. Now I have 16 carpenters on the Ark, but still no owls. "When I started rounding up the other animals, I got sued by an animal rights group. They objected to me only taking two of each kind aboard. Just when I got the suit dismissed, the EPA notified me that I could not complete the Ark without filing an environmental impact statement on your proposed flood. They didn't take very kindly to the idea that they had no jurisdiction over the conduct of the Creator of the universe. "Then the Army Engineers demanded a map of the proposed new flood plain. I sent them a globe. "Right now, I am trying to resolve a complaint filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission that I am practicing discrimination by not taking godless, unbelieving people aboard. "The IRS has seized my assets, claiming that I'm building the Ark in preparation to flee the country to avoid paying taxes. I just got a notice from the state that I owe them some kind of user tax and failed to register the Ark as a recreational water craft." "Finally, the ACLU got the courts to issue an injunction against further construction of the Ark, saying that since God is flooding the earth, it is a religious event and therefore, unconstitutional. "I really don't think I can finish the Ark for another five or six years," Noah wailed. The sky began to clear, the sun began to shine and the seas began to calm. A rainbow arched across the sky. Noah looked up hopefully. "You mean You are not going to destroy the earth Lord?" "No," said the Lord sadly. "I don't have to. The government already has." author unknown

hi Gang: I am proud to announce; we have a new "Barnes & Noble" book store to open in the Athens area. I have planned to go tomorrow (after church) and spend the afternoon there. I would appreciate any recommendation of books to purchase that would be of interest to our genealogy. Have a great weekend. "happiness begins within ones self" Diann Queen Williams

Hello list! Is Cherokee Nation East (Quallah) in Cherokee County? How far is Cherokee Co. from Buncombe and Madison? I'm still figuring this stuff out - obviously. Thanks, Marian dasha@unet.com.mk

I'm trying to find information on the Cherokee Co. Messers. My gg-grandmother was Mary Lucinda Messer, m. Joseph Anderson Kimsey. On the census, she says she was born in Jackson Co. (Jackson did not exist when she was born however, so I suspect it was Haywood or Macon). There are two other Messers that I've been able to locate in Cherokee Co., and I suspect they're somehow related to Mary. J.A. and Mary Lucinda had a daughter, Quincy Druemma Kimsey (1868-1896) who married a John Ellis Messer. A year after her death, John Ellis Messer married Mary Harper, or Hooper. They were married by Joseph Anderson Kimsey. There's also a James Messer, m. Mary Elizabeth Bradshaw, in Cherokee Co. at approximately the same time. I feel fairly sure that these three Messers are related, but I'm not sure how. Nor am I sure how they got from Haywood/Macon to Cherokee Co., or who their parents were. Mary Lucinda is a huge brick wall for me. I'm hoping that by tracing John Ellis Messer, and possibly James, I can make a link back to her. Can anyone help? Regards -- Judy Kimsey

Hi Arlene, Sure! I should have posted it before! URL is http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/4the3sratledges Sandra Ratledge

I have added a new link on my website "3rd Tennesseee Mounted Infantry Regiment, USA." It's called a Subdirectory of Surnames and is accessible from the homepage. Now, there is a quick way of finding maiden names of widows, parents' names of these soldiers, and children's names using the links. Any person mentioned in the text material of the various biographical sketches, articles, etc. is indexed with these links. Some soldiers are mentioned in other soldiers' claim applications and are therefore indexed. The following surnames are now indexed: Abbott, Abernathy, Ainsworth, Albright, Allen, Arnell, Bailey, Balch, Barclay, Barker, Barnett, Barrett, Barringer, Bates, Beaty, Beauregard, Beaver, Bell, Bennett, Berry, Best, Bigby, Blackwell, Blythe, Bowden, Boyd, Bragg, Brannon, Bristol, Brown, Bryson, Buchanon, Burnside, Burrell, Burris, Burton, Cagle, Calvin, Campbell, Carr, Carringer, Carroll, Carson, Carter, Casselman, Clapp, Clay, Click, Clowers, Cogdill, Coleman, Collins, Cook, Cooley, Cottrell, Crain, Cranfield, Crawford, Crowe, Culberson, Cummings, Davidson, Davis, Dean, Deaton, Deavers, DeHart, Denton, Dickey, Divine, Dockery, Doyl, Eller, Elliott, Ellison, Evans, Fain, Farmer, Faubion, Ferguson, Flackus, Free, Gainey, Gentry, Giles, Gilliam, Goethe, Goins, Graves, Gray, Green, Gudger, Hall, Hamilton, Hammontree, Hampton, Hargran, Harris, Hartness, Hayes, Heighway, Henry, Henson, Hibberts, Hickey, Higdon, Hill, Hogue, Hooper, Horton, Hunsacker, Hunt, Hurlburt, Jackson, Jarvis, Jenkins, Jenks, Johnson, Jones, Kelsey, Kelso, Kile, Kilpatrick, Kimbrough, King, Kirk, Kirkland, Lambert, Land, Landers, Laney, Larned, Ledford, Lee, Lincoln, Long, Lovingood, Luke, Lusk, Lyons, Mashbern, Mason, Massey, McAfee, McCall, McCoy, McDelania, McDonald, McDowell, McElroy, McIntyre, McKinney, McNabb, McReynolds, Miller, Mills, Montgomery, Moody, Moore, Morgan, Morrow, Moses, Moss, Mull, Mumblehead, Murphy, Murr, Newbert, Nichols, Nurritt, Orr, Palmer, Panther, Parker, Parkey, Payne, Pearson, Peek, Perkins, Pinkerton, Pritchard, Proudfoot, Ratledge, Ray, Renegar, Rhea, Roberts, Robinson, Rodgers, Rolen, Rollins, Rudd, Rutherford, Scofield, Shaw, Simonds, Smith, Snead, Standridge, Stansbury, Stiles, Sullivan, Sutton, Swafford, Sweet, Tallmadge, Taylor, Terry, Thomas, Thompson, Tilley, Tilson, Tucker, Underwood, Upton, Vance Vasser, Vaughn, Voyles, Wager, Walker, Walls, Wear, Webb, Welch, West, Whitaker, White, Williams, Wilson, Winder, and Worley. Hope this helps you! Sandra Ratledge

Sandra, Thanks! Arlene

Sandra, I don't seem to have the link to your homepage...can you send it? Thanks! Arlene