A photo of the first old log school house of Clearwater Community in McMinn CO, TN and the students of 1900 has been uploaded to my website called, "Valley River Relatives." The URL is http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~snipper >From the index page, click on Photograph Album; then scroll down that link to schools and school groups. If anyone can help to identify the teacher or any of the other students pictured, please email me. Also, a photo of the Mouse Creek School group of ca. 1916 has been added to my website called, "Kinfolks in the Knobs." That URL is http://www.genweb.net/kinfolksintheknobs >From that index page, click on Photograph Album; then scroll down that link to schools and school groups. More photos of old school groups and schools will be added as time permits. Thanks for any assistance with identification! Sandra Ratledge

Just looked at the previous message I sent. Amos BROWN did not marry Elizabeth in 1770. Elizabeth was born 1770 ........................................................ iWon.com http://www.iwon.com why wouldn't you? ........................................................

David Hughes wrote: > Hi, I am hoping someone might help me out with this puzzle. In the 1860 census for > Cherokee Co. NC, there is a family > Parker, Alexander 33 farmer born in Macon Co NC > Parker, Mary 31 " Buncombe Co NC > Parker, John 9 " Macon Co NC > Parker, Josephine 7 " Cherokee Co NC > Parker, Harriet 5 " Cherokee Co NC > Parker, Ellen 3 " Cherokee Co NC > This family is in the Shoal Creek Dist. > > In the 1870 census of Cherokee Co NC > > In the Notla or Nottla Twp > > Parker, Alexander 40 > Parker, Louarra 29 > Parker, Reuben 3 > Rice, William 8 > Rice, Jessee 6 > > In the Shoal Creek Twp > > Ingram, John 69 > Ingram, Mary 60 > Ingram, Harriett 35 > Ingram, Arminda 25 > Ingram, Dulcena 22 > Parker, John 19 > Parker, Jossee 17 > Parker, Harriet 15 > Parker, Elen 13 > Parker, Mary 11 > > Is this the same Alexander Parker in 1870 and where is the wife Mary Ingram? These are the > children of Alexander & Mary living with their grandparents in 1870. > > In the 1880 census of Cherokee Co NC in the Nottla or Notla Twp > > Parker, Alexander 50 > Parker, Mary L. 36 > Parker, Reuben 13 son > Parker, Lidda C. 9 daughter > Parker, Laura L. 5 daughter > Parker, Alfred 1 son > Rice, William H. 18 stepson > Rice, Jesse 17 stepson > > and in 1880 in the Shoal Creek Twp > > Ingram, John 75 > Ingram, Mary 76 > Ingram, Harriet 45 daughter > Ingram, Sarah 32 daughter > Parker, John 27 grandson > Parker, Mary 17 grandaughter > > In the 1900 census of Cherokee Co NC > > Parker, John 49 born 10-1850 > Ingram, Harriet 65 aunt born 11-1834 > Parker, Ellen 38 born April 1862 > > Now my question is. Did Alexander Parker remarry by 1870 or is this another Alexander > Parker? And if Alexander did remarry, why did the children live with the grandparents from > then on? If anyone thinks these names sound familer, I would like to hear from you. Any > Help would be greatly appreciated. > David Hughes > > Got a hobby to share or just want a personal home page ? > Build your own web site for free at http://www.homestead.com Hi David -- Here's what I (tenatively) have on the Parkers: Descendants of Eli Parker 1 Eli Parker .. +Mary Ingram ......... 2 Harriet Parker b: May 26, 1854 d: Feb 7, 1926 in Cherokee Co, NC ............. +Thadeus G. "Dock" Stiles b: May 4, 1849 in Cherokee Co, NC, d: Jan 19, 1929 Father: Thomas Stiles Mother: Louisa Smith .................... 3 Bert Stiles d: Oct 22, 1922 in Cherokee Co., NC, .................... 3 May Bell Stiles d: March 20, 1922 in Cherokee Co., NC, .................... 3 Boyd Hobert Stiles b: April 16, 1898 d: February 16, 1954 ........................ +Della Mae Headrick b: Sep 2, 1897 d: Nov 24, 1984 Father: Claude Burton Headrick Mother: Martha Ann Carroll ............................... 4 Carmen Carzell Stiles b: Aug 1, 1930 in Cherokee Co, NC ................................... +??Townson ............................... 4 Maynard Claude Stiles b: Jan 12, 1932 in Cherokee Co, NC, d: Aug 8, 1998 ................................... +Sally Barton ........................................... 5 Vicki Stiles ............................................... +David Specht ........................................... 5 Kendal Stiles ............................................... +Phyllis ........................................... 5 Randall Stiles ............................................... +Rhonda ............................... 4 Shirley Jean Stiles b: July 22, 1938 in Cherokee Co., NC ............................... 4 Roy Stiles ................................... +Judy

Hi Everyone -- I'd like to wish everyone a safe Memorial Day weekend. Golden Branches is in the process of moving their domain to a different service provider. If you have book marks using the flex.net address, please change them. The directory structure will essentially remain the same, just with the goldenbranches.com domain. http://www.goldenbranches.com/nc-state And my email address is changing from golden@flex.net to facklam@geocities.com I've been working on updates to the pages as they've been switched over. I think I have them done. If anything is missing or bad links please feel free to email me. Thanks. Diane

Amos BROWN was born 1766 in Virginia and died 25 Aug 1842 in Cherokee County, NC. He also lived in Mecklenburg County, NC and Macon County, NC. He was married in 1770 to Elizabeth There children were Margaret, Abby, Alford, Elizabeth, Sarah, Thomas, Zekil and Alma. Does anyone have information on what happend to Thomas, born Feb 1798? Marriage, migration, ANYTHING? Thanks Carol ........................................................ iWon.com http://www.iwon.com why wouldn't you? ........................................................

Hi, I am hoping someone might help me out with this puzzle. In the 1860 census for Cherokee Co. NC, there is a family Parker, Alexander 33 farmer born in Macon Co NC Parker, Mary 31 " Buncombe Co NC Parker, John 9 " Macon Co NC Parker, Josephine 7 " Cherokee Co NC Parker, Harriet 5 " Cherokee Co NC Parker, Ellen 3 " Cherokee Co NC This family is in the Shoal Creek Dist. In the 1870 census of Cherokee Co NC In the Notla or Nottla Twp Parker, Alexander 40 Parker, Louarra 29 Parker, Reuben 3 Rice, William 8 Rice, Jessee 6 In the Shoal Creek Twp Ingram, John 69 Ingram, Mary 60 Ingram, Harriett 35 Ingram, Arminda 25 Ingram, Dulcena 22 Parker, John 19 Parker, Jossee 17 Parker, Harriet 15 Parker, Elen 13 Parker, Mary 11 Is this the same Alexander Parker in 1870 and where is the wife Mary Ingram? These are the children of Alexander & Mary living with their grandparents in 1870. In the 1880 census of Cherokee Co NC in the Nottla or Notla Twp Parker, Alexander 50 Parker, Mary L. 36 Parker, Reuben 13 son Parker, Lidda C. 9 daughter Parker, Laura L. 5 daughter Parker, Alfred 1 son Rice, William H. 18 stepson Rice, Jesse 17 stepson and in 1880 in the Shoal Creek Twp Ingram, John 75 Ingram, Mary 76 Ingram, Harriet 45 daughter Ingram, Sarah 32 daughter Parker, John 27 grandson Parker, Mary 17 grandaughter In the 1900 census of Cherokee Co NC Parker, John 49 born 10-1850 Ingram, Harriet 65 aunt born 11-1834 Parker, Ellen 38 born April 1862 Now my question is. Did Alexander Parker remarry by 1870 or is this another Alexander Parker? And if Alexander did remarry, why did the children live with the grandparents from then on? If anyone thinks these names sound familer, I would like to hear from you. Any Help would be greatly appreciated. David Hughes Got a hobby to share or just want a personal home page ? Build your own web site for free at http://www.homestead.com

The Trull's are mine. Some in Cherokee before it turned into Graham. Tonia Trull-Powell Ttp49@aol.com or tpowell@arlington.net

Please do not post non-genealogy messages to this forum. Religion, politics, chain letters, etc., no matter how good the cause do not belong here and only serve to start flame wars which clog everyone's e-mail. If anyone has a problem with this policy, please e-mail me privately at facklam@geocities.com Diane

I just bought this book by Jack D. Baker, and I am willing to do lookups. Mike

Can anyone on the list give me some references to or information about the history of the populated place named MALTBY? Thanks. Mike

Hello Looking for information on Polly Murphy and her husband Whiplash. Whiplash was a Full Blooded Cherokee and Polly was said to have Cherokee Blood in her as well. They were from Cherokee County, NC and may have moved to Mississippi. Thank You

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BFBC28.D8B02740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BFBC28.D8B02740 Content-Type: text/plain; name="[TNCANNON] Columbine Shootings.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="[TNCANNON] Columbine Shootings.txt" From: "Lester W. McCormick" <wkmac@bellsouth.net> To: <TNCANNON-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TNCANNON] Columbine Shootings Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 2:15 PM On Thursday, May 27,1999, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School Shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittees.. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful. It needs to be heard by every politician,every socialogist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness. The following is a portion of the transcript. "Since the dawn of creation, there has been both good and evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of the heroic teachers and the other eleven children who died, must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers. ''The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew Abel out in the field. The villian was not the club he used. Neither was it the NCA.(The National Club Association) The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart. In the days that followed the Columbine tradgedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to point at groups such as the NRA. I am not even a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter.I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent nor defend the NRA because I don't believe they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore, I don't believe that they need to be defended. If I believed that they had anything to do with Rachel's murder, I would be their strongest opponent.I am here today to declare the Columbine Shootings was not just a tradgedy. It was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the blame lies. Much of the blame lies here within this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best. This was written before I knew I would be speaking here today. "Your laws ignore our deepest needs, Your words are empty air. You've stripped away our heritage, You've outlawed simple prayer. Now gunshots fill our classrooms, And precious children die. You seek for answers everywhere, And ask the question, "Why?" You regulate restrictive laws, Through legislative creed, And yet you fail to understand, That God is what we need! Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, soul, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual influences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges and Universities began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in doing so,we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something like the Columbine tradgedy occurs, politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to the erosion of our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre." " The real villian lies within our own hearts. Political posturing and restrictive legislation are not the answers. The young people of our nation hold the key.There is a spiritual awakening taking place that will not be squelched! We don't need more religion. We don't need more gaudy television evangelists spewing out verbal religious garbage. We don't need more million dollar chuch building built while people with basic needs are being ignored. We do need a change of heart and a humble acknowledgement that this nation was founded on the principle of simple trust in God!" As my son, Craig, lay under a table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, he didn't hestitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! On April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School, prayer was brought back into our schools. Do not let the prayers offered by these students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millineum with a sacred regard for legislation that protects your God given right to communicate with Him." "To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA--I give you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone! My daughter's death will not be in vain. The young people of America will not allow that to happen." Be courageous enough to do what the media failed to do. Let the nation hear this man's speech. Please send this out to everyone you can. Thank you. 00 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BFBC28.D8B02740--

Sorry, Bob, my ELIZABETH FAIR was the daughter of ARCHIBALD FAIR who lived in the Hot House District of Cherokee County from about the mid-1830s to the 1860s before moving over to Monroe County, TN. She was born in Cherokee about 1840 and was gone from ARCHIBALD's home by 1860. A clue to her possible marriage partner came recently when I found an ELIZABETH RAPER (60) in the 1900 Cherokee Census boarding in the home of the DANIEL LOUDERMILK family along with AUSTIN FARE (FAIR) who was ARCHIBALD's youngest (and somewhat retarded son). AUSTIN was in Monroe County in 1870 and 1880 in the home of his parents. Their mother's census name was Holly "L" which may explain the LOUDERMILK connection which goes back into Burke County, NC where ARCH was born. As indicated in my initial posting, the 1870 Cherokee Census reflected an ELIZABETH being married to a WILLIAM RAPER. Her indicated age of 35 was "close enough" for speculation. I have no info that suggests she moved to Monroe County with (or after) her parents although her older brother, ELIJAH, did so. NCCHEROK-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > NCCHEROK-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 58 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [NCCHEROK] William Raper Family, 1 [Roy Fair <royvfair@bellsouth.net>] > #2 Re: [NCCHEROK] William Raper Famil ["Bobb Cotter" <bcotter1@kc.rr.com>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from NCCHEROK-D, send a message to > > NCCHEROK-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [NCCHEROK] William Raper Family, 1870 Cherokee Census > Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 22:31:09 -0400 > From: Roy Fair <royvfair@bellsouth.net> > To: NCCHEROK-L@rootsweb.com > > The 1870 Census of Cherokee County reflects a WILLIAM RAPER (age 37) > Family consisting of wife ELIZABETH (35), a daughter CINTHIA(8) and son > BURTON (3), all of which were born in NC. Does anyone researching the > RAPER surname in Cherokee know the maiden name of his wife? Could it be > FAIR?? > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [NCCHEROK] William Raper Family, 1870 Cherokee Census > Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:59:31 -0500 > From: "Bobb Cotter" <bcotter1@kc.rr.com> > To: NCCHEROK-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi Roy. I have an Elizabeth Fair, but not connected to the Raper. Mine is > married to Stephen Willard Cotter. I have her born January 7, 1814 in > Augusta Ga. with her death on February 3, 1903, in Linn County MO. > Stephenis the link to Cherokee County NC. If you want some more info, let > me know. > And if anyone has any info on the Cotter's, please let me know. > > Bobb Cotter > bcotter1@kc.rr.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roy Fair <royvfair@bellsouth.net> > To: <NCCHEROK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 9:31 PM > Subject: [NCCHEROK] William Raper Family, 1870 Cherokee Census > > > The 1870 Census of Cherokee County reflects a WILLIAM RAPER (age 37) > > Family consisting of wife ELIZABETH (35), a daughter CINTHIA(8) and son > > BURTON (3), all of which were born in NC. Does anyone researching the > > RAPER surname in Cherokee know the maiden name of his wife? Could it be > > FAIR?? > >

Hi Roy. I have an Elizabeth Fair, but not connected to the Raper. Mine is married to Stephen Willard Cotter. I have her born January 7, 1814 in Augusta Ga. with her death on February 3, 1903, in Linn County MO. Stephenis the link to Cherokee County NC. If you want some more info, let me know. And if anyone has any info on the Cotter's, please let me know. Bobb Cotter bcotter1@kc.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Roy Fair <royvfair@bellsouth.net> To: <NCCHEROK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 9:31 PM Subject: [NCCHEROK] William Raper Family, 1870 Cherokee Census > The 1870 Census of Cherokee County reflects a WILLIAM RAPER (age 37) > Family consisting of wife ELIZABETH (35), a daughter CINTHIA(8) and son > BURTON (3), all of which were born in NC. Does anyone researching the > RAPER surname in Cherokee know the maiden name of his wife? Could it be > FAIR?? >

The 1870 Census of Cherokee County reflects a WILLIAM RAPER (age 37) Family consisting of wife ELIZABETH (35), a daughter CINTHIA(8) and son BURTON (3), all of which were born in NC. Does anyone researching the RAPER surname in Cherokee know the maiden name of his wife? Could it be FAIR??

Hello..... My Harris ancestors are from Cherokee Co, NC, could you show me your connection to the Harris Family ? Thanks very much, Glenna Harris Ostensen ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane S.Ratledge <4the3sratledges@compuserve.com> To: <NCCHEROK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 7:16 AM Subject: [NCCHEROK] website update > I have been adding family group records to my website called "Valley River > Relatives." The surname index has been updated to include all surnames of > folks who married into my family groups. The list of links now includes > all of the following: > > Abernathy - Adams - Akins - Allen - Allison - Anderson - Arnold - Arrowood > - Auberry - Ayers - Baldridge - Ballew - Barnes - Barnett - Bean - Beck - > Bell - Benge - Bigby - Blackwell - Blakemore - Boots - Brannon - Brown - > Bryson - Buckner - Buffington - Burton - Butler - Byers - Cadle - Callahan > - Cherry - Clay - Clingan - Cobb - Cole - Coleman - Cook - Corn - Cornelius > - Creekmore - Crittenden - Crocker - Cunningham - Dacus - Davidson - Daws - > DeArmand - Deaton - Deaver - Delaney - Delisie - Deweese - Ditmore - > Downing - Dyer - Everett - Ferguson - Fields - Foust - Fox - Garland - > Garrett - Gentry - Gilstrap - Goddard - Grayson - Greer - Greybeard - > Haigler - Hammontree - Hardin - Harper - Harris - Harrod - Harshaw - > Henderson - Henry - Hickorynut - Holland - Hughes - James - Johnson - > Johnston - Jones - Kell - Keys - Kidd - Killian - Kimsey - Knight - Kozicki > - Landrum - Lane - Lawrence - Leatherwood - Lee - Little - Loudermilk - > Lovingood - Low - Lowry - Mason - Matheson - McAbee - McClure - McFarlin - > McGhee - McLoud - McKinney - McNeal/McNeil - Meroney - Millsap - Monteith - > Moore - Moreland - Moss - Murdock - Muse - Nichols - Nicholson - Olvey - > Osborne - Panther - Parker - Perdue - Phillips - Powell - Price - Reed - > Roane - Roberts - Robinson - Rogers - Sale - Sanders - Scott - Sharp - > Sherriff - Sherrill - Shoop - Shope/Shoap - Simonds/Simmonds - Sneed - St. > Clair - Stalcup - Stamey - Suddreth - Sullivan - Sutton - Tallent - Tatum - > Taylor - Terbins - Thomas - Thompson - Thurman - Traylor - Trull - Tucker - > Turner - Tuttle - Vanderpool - Vannoy - Ward - Watkins - Welch - West - > White - Williams - Wise - Witt - Wood - Woody - Wyatt. > > Concentration lately has been on the following major categories: Hampton, > McDonald, McKeehan, and Tucker families. The URL is > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~snipper > > Enjoy! Let me know if you relate to the folks on the site. > Sandra Ratledge >

Sandra Ratledge wrote: > I have been adding family group records to my website called "Valley River > Relatives." Hi Sandra! Thanks for the update notification. I went back to visit your Parkers and ended up at James Parker's Place. I've got some descendants for Samuel Houston Parker, but none for the other children (who I didn't even know existed until tonight!). Do you have descendants for the other children of James and Elizabeth. OH! BTW: I have Elizabeth's surname as Almond; you have Delaney. Did she marry twice, or do I have it wrong? Kind regards, Philip Sheppard Beaufort, South Carolina

In a message dated 5/7/2000 9:45:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sheppard@hargray.com writes: << Sandra Ratledge wrote: > I have been adding family group records to my website called "Valley River > Relatives." Hi Sandra! Thanks for the update notification. I went back to visit your Parkers and ended up at James Parker's Place. I've got some descendants for Samuel Houston Parker, but none for the other children (who I didn't even know existed until tonight!). Do you have descendants for the other children of James and Elizabeth. OH! BTW: I have Elizabeth's surname as Almond; you have Delaney. Did she marry twice, or do I have it wrong? Kind regards, Philip Sheppard Beaufort, South Carolina >> This is what I have on Samuel Houston Parker's wife Descendants of Wilson Nelson Almond Generation No. 1 1. WILSON NELSON1 ALMOND was born August 1846 in Unknown1, and died 1916 in Unknown1. He married MARY JOSEPHINE DEAL Unknown in Unknown. She was born 1851 in Unknown1, and died 1933 in Unknown1. Child of WILSON ALMOND and MARY DEAL is: i. DELANEY ELIZABETH2 ALMOND, b. 16 August 1874, Cherokee County, North Carolina1; d. 13 July 1948, Cherokee County, North Carolina1; m. SAMUEL HUSTON PARKER; b. 1864, Cherokee County, North Carolina1; d. 3 November 1936, Cherokee County, North Carolina1. Endnotes 1. Book-- Our Heritage The People of Cherokee County, North Carolina.

I have several connections to the Harris family. My great-aunt is Nan (McKeehan) Harris. One of my husband's ancestors was Anna (Harris) Wilson, wife of William Wilson. Please visit the website for the other connection listed on the update. >From the index page, click on "Surname Index" which will take you to the navigable links. Scroll down to Harris and click on the L 1, etc. These L 1, L 2, etc. indicate links to a family group wherein someone with that surname is listed in boldface print. Enjoy! Sandra

Hi Arlene, Thanks for all the emails and thanks for your kind words about my website! I appreciate that! I'm beginning to answer the email from yesterday. I had worked yesterday morning and sent the email. Then, we went out of town for the remainder of the day. It's catch up time! Thanks again! Sandra