This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hunsucker/Smith/Bolch/Hoke/Herman/Isenhour/Mauser Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SSB.2ACE/2240 Message Board Post: There has been very sketchy and limited research done on my direct line of my 4th great grandfather John Hunsucker from Lincoln Co. I have put together documentation and my theory of my family. I believe my John died between 1826 & 1830 leaving 4 minor children. If anyone can add or has any land records or orphan court records I would greatly appreciate the information. His known children: 1st wife Miss Smith 1) Devault b 6 Aug 1807 moved to Buncombe Co NC 2) Sarah b Jul 1809 married Henry Bolch 3) missing 1 male born abt 1810 4) Susannah b 11 Jan 1812 d 25 Dec 1859 married 1st Henry Hoke and 2nd Jacob Moser (some of the records are wrong) 5) Maria Magaretha "Mary b 2 Mar 1814 d 19 Feb 1877 married Moses Herman 6) Lawson H b 1 Jan 1818 d 30 Nov 1890 married Nancy Adeline Deal (no children) 7) Elizabeth E b 9 Jun 1819 d 21 Dec 1875 married Jacob Isenhower/Isenhour 2nd wife Polly Sigman Elkanah b 3 Jun 1826 d 29 Dec 1921 married Sarah Ann Miller a cousin My 3rd great grandparents were Sarah Hunsucker and Henry Bolch who married 1826 Lincoln Co Nc. They eventually moved to Buncombe Co NC, Cocke Co Ten, and finally to Webster Co Mo where they both died and are buried. I believe my Smith grandparents to be John Smith and Catherine Mauser. 1810 Lincoln Co North Carolina pg 351 John Huntsacer 10010 1010000 1 male under 10 Davault age 3 (This puts Davault to be the eldest child) 1 male 26 to 44 John age 26 1 female under 10 Sarah age 1 1 female 16 to 25 (born 1785 - 1794) Barbara probably abt age 20 Deed abstracts (from various sources given to me) 1812 bought land from Henry Trett per Hunsucker genealogy edited by Pauline Shook John Hundsucker June 10, 1814 claims 20 acres on water of Lyles Creek, bordering Simon Ikert, Peter Rough (Rowe) and his own land John Hontzicker January 20, 1817 for 20 acres on Lyles Creek 1820 Lincoln Co North Carolina, East of the South Fork of the Catawba River, pg 400 John Huntsacer 210010 males 3101 females 2 males under 10 Lawson age 2 (missing 1 male) 1 male 10 - 16 Davault age 13 1 male 26 - 45 John age 35 3 females under age 10 Susannah age 8, Maria age 6, Elizabeth age 1 1 female 10 - 16 Sarah age 11 1 female 26 - 45 Barbara (based on ages of her parents she was probably born abt 1790, which would make her approx 17 yrs old when she had her 1st child and not an uncommon age for girls in that timeframe) 2 persons engaged in agriculture John and Davault free colored persons 4 females under 14 5 females 14 -26 same page with John Smith (probably Barbara's father), Jacob Moser, Christian Hunsucker, Peter and Jacob Little, John Miller 1823 inherited 48 1/2 acres on Lyles Creek from father's estate Lincoln Co North Carolina Court Records page 462-463 Lot No 9 John Hunsucker, Divisiion of the lands of Devault Hunsicker, Dec'd State of North Carolina, Lincoln County, to the January Court 1823 Pursuant to an order of our County Court appointing commissions to divide the real estate of DEVAULT HUNSICKER, dec'd we the undersigned being summoned by the Sheriff and having met on the premises and after being sworn to do equal Justice among the claimants did proceed to survey and divide the lands of said deceased in which division we laid off the annexed plan of 48 1/4 acres of land calling it No. 9 and valued worth $193 and appropriated the same to the use of JOHN HUNSUCKER one of the heirs of Devault Huntsicker (sic) dec'd which lot is situate on the waters of LYLES CREEK and butting and bounded as follows to wit, begining (sic) at a spanish oak a corner of No 4 & 5 and runs along a line of Lot no 4 N 60 w 74 poles to a black oak a corner to said lot then N 20 w 40 poles to a post oak a corner of Lot No 4 on an old line then along the old line S 61 W 107 poles to a hickory a corner of Lot No 8 thence along said lot & Lot no 7 south 37 e 49 poles to a white oak a corn! er of No 7 then North 83 east 144 poles with the lines of lott no 7, 6 and five to the begining. Given under our hands & seals this 13 day of December 1822. John Wilfong (seal) Mick Cline (seal) Jacob Shuford (seal) Maxwell Wilson (seal and surveyor Joseph Dellinger cc Philip Baker cc State of North Carolina Lincoln County January Sess 1823 The within division was confirmed by court and ordered to be registered witness: Vardry McBee cc REF: MARRIAGE BONDS OF TYRON AND LINCOLN CO. NORTH CAROLINA, Abstracted and indexed by Curtis Bynum 1929, 1962 Catawba Co. Historical Association Pg 68 Hunsicker, John (Ger Johannes Hun -----); Sigman, Polly; Jacob Hunsicker; 11 Apl 1824; Fr Hoke JP (NOTE: TERM "GER" indicates he signed his name in German) Elcanah born 3 Jun 1826 Note: John is not on the 1830 or the 1840 Lincoln Co census. In the History of J Theobold Hunsucker edit by Pauline Moser Shook it states on page 85 that John bought land in 1831 from Christian Earney and in 1838 he bought additional acres from his oldest brother Wilheim. Based on the 1830 and 1840 census records for the ONLY John Hunsucker in Lincoln Co he is not old enough to be my John and believe the John in 1830 & 1840 is the son of Wilheim. I have therefore concluded that Barbara has died after the 1820 census between 1820\1823 due to John's marriage date to Polly Sigman. Based on Elcanah's birthdate of 3 Jun 1826, John has died between 1826/1830. No where can I find Polly Sigman with any of the kids and were probably included in other household's until 1850 when Polly appears with Elcanah and the other kids are all married and gone. I have not examined deeds to determine what became of his property or Orphan court records for Elcanah. There should be some kind of land! records to show the heirs, but don't know if anyone has ever looked and I seem to be the prime researcher for direct line descent from John of the families that moved away. From what land information I have I know that John owned at least 88 acres of land on Lyle's Creek. In the 1830 census of daughter Sarah and Henry Bolch, there is what appears to be daughter Mary living with them, and she would have been only 16 yrs old. I still haven't determined where Davault, Elizabeth, and Lawson were in 1830. Davault would have been legal age of 23, but we have 4 minors who should probably be found in the orphan court records, Mary age 16, Lawson age 12, Elizabeth age 11, and Elcany age 4. Perhaps the children were with the Smith grandparents. Further follow up needs to be done for land records and orphan court records. 1830 Lincoln Co North Carolina pg 259 not mine - he's not old enough most likely son of Wilheim Hntsecker , John 1840 Upper Regiment, Lincoln, North Carolina Not mine - he's not old enough - most likely son of Wilheim pg 93 John Hunsicker age 30 40 001001 males 221001 females 1850 Catawba Co North Carolina household 252 pg 281b Polly Hunsucker 45 Catawba NC Cany 21 Theophlus M 12 (I don't think this is a child of John and Polly's, but is probably related somehow possibly through Polly or could have been an orphan, as Cany was known for taking in orphaned children and raising them.) household 253 Susannah Selzer 55 Catawba Mary Sigman 38 Catawba Here is where I will make my conclusion regarding the parentage of my Smith grandmother and her name. Susannah Hunsucker married at the age of 17 to Henry Hoke in 1829, probably after the death of both of her parents. Henry Hoke dies 1837 to 1840, leaving Susannah with 4 babies. She marries a 2nd time to Jacob Moser 1849 and moves to Alexander Co NC. All of the boys are living in different household's in 1850. Her youngest son John David Hoke is 12 yrs old and living with Frederick Smith and Angeline Sigman. It is my contention that Frederick Smith is Susannah's uncle and the brother of my Smith grandmother. Due to the early deaths of her and John they are not mentioned in the will of John Smith and all of the children are of legal age by the time John Smith dies in 1847 and John didn't feel the need to leave anything to the grandchildren for some reason, who knows why. John's father George Adam Smith has always resided on Lyle's Creek since 1765 and this Smith family is always living around the Hunsucker's and the Bolch families. George Adam Schmidt/Smith actually sold l! and in 1774 to Johann Adam Bolch as he lists it in his will written in 1794 from land patents of George Adam Schmidt. So these families became very intertwined through the early settlement of Mecklenburg, Tryon, and Lincoln Counties as they were divided off on Lyle's Creek, then eventually became Catawba Co. Now for my Smith grandmother's name. Susannah Hunsucker only had one daughter by Jacob Moser and she was named Barbara Ann Moser, which could most likely stem from her mother's name. Son Davault also had a daughter named Barbara, and I'm missing one daughter from Sarah and Henry Bolch's children, and she could have possibly been named Barbara as well. There also is a confirmation in the St. John's Lutheran Church records for 1804 for a Barbara Schmidt which would be about the right time frame for Barbara to be confirmed if she was born abt 1790, she would have been abt 14 yrs old and we know that John Smith who died 1847 is buried in St John's. Confirmation List St John's Lutheran Church, Lincoln Co North Carolina 18 Aug 1804 Barbara Schmit per Jerry Dagenhart, According to Mark Smith confirmations could have been from age 10-17 so the Barbara Smidt could have been Barbara Ann Smith.I will look at the index and see if there are any other schmidt references in the book. Holding The Cross High for 250 years is the Title of Mark Smith's book on old St Johns. The other commonality is that John Smith's wife was Catherine Mauser and she had a sister Elizabeth Mauser who married Johan Adam Bolch, parents of my Henry Bolch who married Sarah Hunsucker. This would make Henry and Sarah 1st cousins 1x removed which makes for a close knit family and not at all uncommon practice in those days. The name Anna Barbara was used by Catherine Smith and Frederick Hoke, Jr, was this in honor of her deceased sister? I therefore am naming my Smith grandmother, Barbara Anna based on this pure circumstantial evidence until I can try to find something more concrete. 1850 Catawba Co. North Carolina household 255 (son of John Smith and Catherine Mauser) Frederick L Smith 37 born 1813 Angeline 38 Canulla L female Ephraim 12 Fracos A male 10 Manerva 1 Harriett C 5 Burton 2 B E 3 mos male John D Hoke 12 (son of Susannah Hunsucker and Henry Hoke, Susannah married Jacob Moser 1849 and moved to Alexander Co North Carolina) pg 282a household 259 Henry Sigman 33 Adda M 33 Martha 13 Daniel 10 Mahala 7 William 4 Elizabeth 2 David S 2 mos Catherine 73 Pa household 260 Martin Sigman 23 Sarah 32 Susan 4 Reuben 1 yr household 261 Catherine Smith 54 Lavina 14 1860Catawba County NC 927 Flint Rock P.O. household 939 Elkanah Hunsucker 29 Polly Hunsucker 47 probably 57 Mary Sigman 44 Mahala Lusk 21 Able Canup 12 bound Carolyn Whitaker atsissie@aol.com