This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RSB.2ACE/291.519.1.2.1.1.3 Message Board Post: Hi Essie, We have communicated before regarding the Gabriels...had a couple of questions that I thought I would toss your way. You have birthdates for both Jr. & Sr.; have seen different ones for Jr. 1766, 1768 and 1756. How did you determine which date was correct? The Overwharton parish christening record disagrees with son John's pension record info. Have also seen another wife for Jr., which makes sense, but haven't ever found any record of that. Have you? And in regard to Sr., where did you find the birth date 1735? Haven't been able to find much on him or his wife, other than she might have been a "Mary". Are the Gabriel and John Murpheys mentioned in the Prince William Co. poll for the house of Burgess in 1742 our crew? What about the undertaker Gabriel Murphey at the church in Quantico in 1752? Just wondered if you have been able to sort out any of this...feel like I have hit the brick wall when it comes to Gabriel Sr. Although--have you seen the rootsweb listing where Gabriel & Archibald Murphy are listed as brothers? Both sons of Alexander of Ireland? I haven't seen evidence of that, other than they both were in Caswell which might make them distant cousins maybe... It seems to me that our Murphy bunch is from the Prince William, Culpepper VA area while the Archibald/Alexander bunch is from Penn. Although I guess their ancestors may have originated in the same location. Seems puzzling... Would like to know your thoughts on these Gabriel issues... Thanks for your time