---------10328b823f5c328410328b823f5c3284 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I was going back over your message below and noticed some things to which I should have responded.  If you will indulge me, I will answer in capitial letters within your message below: John In a message dated Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:43:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, Hdanw writes: >Thank you for your interest in Henry Williams and his wife Elizabeth >(unknown) of Caswell Co., NC. > >I got an almost immediate reply from a gentleman in Tennessee and he caused >me look at the family group sheets which he had sent me sometime ago.  His >work seems to have been done very carefully.  However, he and I did not know >as much as you about Susannah Williams who married second William H. Rice and >her children.  Do you know where she might have died? SHE WOULD HAVE DIED BETWEEN 1794(THE APPROXIMATE BIRTHDATE OF DAUGHTER, MARCEY) AND 7 SEPTEMBER 1795 IN CASWELL COUNTY(THE MARRIAGE DATE OF WILLIAM TO SALLY GOOCH).  WILLIAM HIGGASON RICE REMAINED IN CASWELL UNTIL HE MARRIED MRS. ELIZABETH BOWMAN IN 1738.   A WRITTEN RECORD IN A BIRD FAMILY BIBLE STATES THAT THEY SETTLED IN MISSOURI, WHERE I SUPPOSE THAT HE DIED. ELIZABETH WAS BORN 27 FEBRUARY 1822, AND WAS A DAUGHTER OF ABNER AND MARY ANN FAUCETTE WALKER.  THERE WAS A LETTER OF ATTORNEY FILED IN CASWELL COUNTY FOR WILLIAM H. RICE AND WIFE ELIZA, AS BEING OF FRANKLIN COUNTY, MISSOURI, DATED 15 OCT. 1851. > >My correspondent is a descendant of Jane Williams (dau. of Henry and >Elizabeth of Caswell Co.) and her spouse David Rice Gooch.  They went to >Williamson Co., TN, and several of her siblings settled in that area. > >I did not know about William H. Rice's middle name.  Does this appear in a >document somewhere?  If I remember, he got a Rev. War pension, and there was >still another wife. Or, perhaps I have confused him with someone else. I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A PENSION APPLICATION WHICH INCLUDED HIS FULL NAME; HIS SISTER, MY ANCESTRESS, REBECCA RICE WINDSOR, HAD A SON NAMED JOHN HIGGASON WINDSOR, SO I FEEL THAT THE NAME HAS SOME SIGNIFICANCE TO THE RICE FAMILY, PERHAPS THE MAIDEN NAME OF THEIR MOTHER, WIFE OF THOMAS (CB) RICE. OF HANOVER, VA AND CASWELL, NC. > >Are you a descendant of one of Henry's children?  If so, which one? MY RELATIONSHIP IS NOT DIRECT, BUT A COLATERAL ONE. > >I am a descendant of Ursley Duke Williams and her second husband, Richard >"Ready-Money" Oldham who migrated to Madison Co., KY.  Her brother Joseph >Williams also migrated there.  I have to concentrate more on Madison Co., KY >where I am slowly reading the deeds.  It takes a long time, as so many of the >early  persons are my grandmother's ancestors!!!  (I am the hdanw@aol to whom >you refer in your e-mail--stole my husband's e-mail address.) > >Here is some info about Joseph: > >     By 1795, Joseph Williams of Caswell Co. NC, son of Henry, had sold some >of his property as deduced from the following Caswell Co. deeds: > >   1795 -  DB L-22-23 Joseph Williams of Madison Co., KY, to Israel Barker of >Orange Co., NC, for 20 pds., 100 A on Ridge fork adj Barker.  Wit:  Nathan >Williams, Eli Stacy.  (Nathan Williams was another son of Henry Williams, >deceased.) > >     L-158 Andrew McCauley of Orange Co., NC, to James Rea of CC, for 190 >pds., 304 A on N fork Stoney Cr being land formerly entered by Henry Williams >decd and conveyed by Joseph Williams a legatee to McCauley adj Benjamin >Cantrel, crossing Shaw's Br, Brothers, Kimbrough, Anderson, John Penix.  26 >Jan 1799.  Wit:  Obed Florence, Thomas Loyd. > >     (Katherine Kerr Kendall, CASWELL COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEEDS BOOKS >1777-1817 [Easley, SC:  Southern Historical Press, 1989], p. 202) > >Madison Co., KY Residence > >     Caswell Co. records indicate that Joseph, son of Henry, migrated to >Madison Co., KY, where some of his kinsmen, namely his brother-in-law, >Richard R/M Oldham (qv) and sister Ursley Duke (Williams) (Peoples) Oldham, >had migrated.  Joseph's wife is believed to be Sally Searcy, who may have >been his cousin.  Her mother was Lucy (said to be Williams) Searcy, widow of >Bartlett Searcy (qv), resident of Madison Co.  Lucy Searcy is believed to >have been sister of Daniel Williams I, who died in Granville Co. 1759.  This >relationship is outlined in Alvahn Holmes, SOME DESCENDANTS OF FARRAR'S >ISLAND [Richmond, VA:  1979], a work found in the DAR Library, Washington, >DC, and at the Family History Library, Salt Lake City.  It has been filmed by >the latter organization (and is available on loan from that Library through >LDS family history centers.)  Lucy's maiden name has not been confirmed by >this writer, however.  I BELIEVE THAT THE MOTHER OF THE REV, DAVID RICE WHO GAVE SO MUCH OF THE HISTORY OF THE RICE FAMILY OF HANOVER  COUNTY, VA. WAS  A  SUSANNA SEARCY.  THESE FAMILIES SEEMED TO HAVE NOT SPACED THEMSELVES FROM EACH OTHER!! > >If you are descended from one of Henry's children (or even from his brothers >some of whom went to South Carolina, one being killed at Battle of King's >Mountain), I shall be glad to share information with you concerning Henry, in >particular. > >E.W.Wallace (female) >descendant of Henry's father, Daniel as well as Henry's uncle, John Williams, >Sr. of colonial Granville Co., NC (Nutbush Creek area) > >Here is some info I have in a brief (incomplete, of course, as always) bio of >William H. Rice. > >Preparer:  Evelyn W. Wallace >Rev Mar 1996 > >     WILLIAM H. RICE (d. 1833).  WIR02265 Husband of Susannah Williams, "heir >of Henry Williams," of Caswell Co., NC.  It is surmised that he married 1st) >Nancy Williams, sister of Susannah Williams.  Then he probably married 2nd) >Susannah after her husband Christopher Brooks died (before Dec 1781, Caswell >Co. court minutes in which she resigned her administration of Christopher >Brooks). > >    Refer to the deeds below, indicating Rice is the husband (successively) >of both of these (deceased) daughters of Henry Williams. > >      Rice is believed to be the same William H. Rice who subsequently >married Elizabeth M. Boman, as indicated in Bounty Land Warrant and Rev. War >Widow's pension (3rd wife?) cited below.  However, the pension claim >indicated he was a long-time resident of Rockingham Co., NC. I IMAGINE THAT THE "M" GIVEN AS HER INITIAL WAS ACTUALLY THE LETTER "W" FOR WALKER.  IN THE OLD SCRIPTS, IT WAS OFTEN DIFFICULT TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE. > >    Deeds of Caswell Co. indicate a William H. Rice owned land in that county >as late as 1811 (Q-330), possibly as late as 1818 (S-124).  Other deeds >indicate he was the son of John Rice (DB O-218-9).  He was associated with >Thomas Rice (DB N-47); Elisha Rice, who was executor of John Rice decd late >of Davidson Co., TN and also atty in fact for Nathan Rice and Joel Rice heirs >of John Rice, decd (DB M-311-2).I BELIEVE THIS ASSOCIATION WITH JOHN RICE CAME FROM HIS BEING MARRIED TO JOHN'S GRANDDAUGHTER, SALLY GOOCH.  SALLY'S MOTHER WAS FRANCES RICE, DAUGHTER OF JOHN RICE, WHO MARRIED WILLIAM GOOCH. > >     By 1838, he was selling land in Caswell Co.: > >     DB DD-430  William H. Rice of Rockingham Co. to Stephen Rice of CC, for >$650, 363 A adj William Slade formerly James W. Brown, Samuel Tapscott, >Joseph Windsor, Charles Thacker, Nathan Williams, Thomas Reid, Robert Brown >(son of Robert Brown decd).  13 Mar 1838.  Wit:  William C. Rice, William >Slade. IT WOULD SEEM THAT WILLIAM WAS DIVESTING HIMSELF OF ANY PROPERTY THAT HE OWNED PRIOR TO HIS AND ELIZA'S DEPARTURE FOR MISSOURI.  THE SAMUEL TAPSCOTT( ANOTHER OF MY FAMILIES) WHO IS GIVEN AS ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS ADJOINING HIS PROPERTY, WAS ALSO CREDITED WITH LIVING IN ROCKINGHAM COUNTY.   THIS MAKES ME THINK THAT THE LAND WAS ON THE BORDER OF CASWELL AND ROCKINGHAM. > >     (Katharine Kerr Kendall, CASWELL COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOKS >1817-1840) I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE INFORMATION I HAVE PROVIDED ADDS ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT TO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, BUT IF YOU ARE LIKE ME, I LIKE TO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO SURROUNDED MY FOLKS.  IT JUST SEEMS TO ROUND THEM OUT AS TRUE PERSONALITIES.   I GUESS THAT THE EXPRESSION OF BEING KNOWN BY THE COMPANY ONE KEEPS, IS APPROPRIATE HERE. BEST REGARDS, JOHN ---------10328b823f5c328410328b823f5c3284 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <Bebenjohn@aol.com> Received: from aol.com (mow-m27.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by air-id12.mx.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILINID123-1216225056; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:50:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:50:56 -0500 From: Bebenjohn@aol.com To: Hdanw@aol.com Subject: Re: Henry Williams of Caswell Co., NC and Heirs MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <62CDF1BE.25D00BD0.021F46BB@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I was going back over your message below and noticed some things to which I should have responded. If you will indulge me, I will answer in capitial letters within your message below: John In a message dated Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:43:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, Hdanw writes: >Thank you for your interest in Henry Williams and his wife Elizabeth >(unknown) of Caswell Co., NC. > >I got an almost immediate reply from a gentleman in Tennessee and he caused >me look at the family group sheets which he had sent me sometime ago.  His >work seems to have been done very carefully.  However, he and I did not know >as much as you about Susannah Williams who married second William H. Rice and >her children.  Do you know where she might have died? SHE WOULD HAVE DIED BETWEEN 1794(THE APPROXIMATE BIRTHDATE OF DAUGHTER, MARCEY) AND 7 SEPTEMBER 1795 IN CASWELL COUNTY(THE MARRIAGE DATE OF WILLIAM TO SALLY GOOCH). WILLIAM HIGGASON RICE REMAINED IN CASWELL UNTIL HE MARRIED MRS. ELIZABETH BOWMAN IN 1738. A WRITTEN RECORD IN A BIRD FAMILY BIBLE STATES THAT THEY SETTLED IN MISSOURI, WHERE I SUPPOSE THAT HE DIED. ELIZABETH WAS BORN 27 FEBRUARY 1822, AND WAS A DAUGHTER OF ABNER AND MARY ANN FAUCETTE WALKER. THERE WAS A LETTER OF ATTORNEY FILED IN CASWELL COUNTY FOR WILLIAM H. RICE AND WIFE ELIZA, AS BEING OF FRANKLIN COUNTY, MISSOURI, DATED 15 OCT. 1851. > >My correspondent is a descendant of Jane Williams (dau. of Henry and >Elizabeth of Caswell Co.) and her spouse David Rice Gooch.  They went to >Williamson Co., TN, and several of her siblings settled in that area. > >I did not know about William H. Rice's middle name.  Does this appear in a >document somewhere?  If I remember, he got a Rev. War pension, and there was >still another wife. Or, perhaps I have confused him with someone else. I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A PENSION APPLICATION WHICH INCLUDED HIS FULL NAME; HIS SISTER, MY ANCESTRESS, REBECCA RICE WINDSOR, HAD A SON NAMED JOHN HIGGASON WINDSOR, SO I FEEL THAT THE NAME HAS SOME SIGNIFICANCE TO THE RICE FAMILY, PERHAPS THE MAIDEN NAME OF THEIR MOTHER, WIFE OF THOMAS (CB) RICE. OF HANOVER, VA AND CASWELL, NC. > >Are you a descendant of one of Henry's children?  If so, which one? MY RELATIONSHIP IS NOT DIRECT, BUT A COLATERAL ONE. > >I am a descendant of Ursley Duke Williams and her second husband, Richard >"Ready-Money" Oldham who migrated to Madison Co., KY.  Her brother Joseph >Williams also migrated there.  I have to concentrate more on Madison Co., KY >where I am slowly reading the deeds.  It takes a long time, as so many of the >early  persons are my grandmother's ancestors!!!  (I am the hdanw@aol to whom >you refer in your e-mail--stole my husband's e-mail address.) > >Here is some info about Joseph: > >     By 1795, Joseph Williams of Caswell Co. NC, son of Henry, had sold some >of his property as deduced from the following Caswell Co. deeds: > >   1795 -  DB L-22-23 Joseph Williams of Madison Co., KY, to Israel Barker of >Orange Co., NC, for 20 pds., 100 A on Ridge fork adj Barker.  Wit:  Nathan >Williams, Eli Stacy.  (Nathan Williams was another son of Henry Williams, >deceased.) > >     L-158 Andrew McCauley of Orange Co., NC, to James Rea of CC, for 190 >pds., 304 A on N fork Stoney Cr being land formerly entered by Henry Williams >decd and conveyed by Joseph Williams a legatee to McCauley adj Benjamin >Cantrel, crossing Shaw's Br, Brothers, Kimbrough, Anderson, John Penix.  26 >Jan 1799.  Wit:  Obed Florence, Thomas Loyd. > >     (Katherine Kerr Kendall, CASWELL COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEEDS BOOKS >1777-1817 [Easley, SC:  Southern Historical Press, 1989], p. 202) > >Madison Co., KY Residence > >     Caswell Co. records indicate that Joseph, son of Henry, migrated to >Madison Co., KY, where some of his kinsmen, namely his brother-in-law, >Richard R/M Oldham (qv) and sister Ursley Duke (Williams) (Peoples) Oldham, >had migrated.  Joseph's wife is believed to be Sally Searcy, who may have >been his cousin.  Her mother was Lucy (said to be Williams) Searcy, widow of >Bartlett Searcy (qv), resident of Madison Co.  Lucy Searcy is believed to >have been sister of Daniel Williams I, who died in Granville Co. 1759.  This >relationship is outlined in Alvahn Holmes, SOME DESCENDANTS OF FARRAR'S >ISLAND [Richmond, VA:  1979], a work found in the DAR Library, Washington, >DC, and at the Family History Library, Salt Lake City.  It has been filmed by >the latter organization (and is available on loan from that Library through >LDS family history centers.)  Lucy's maiden name has not been confirmed by >this writer, however. I BELIEVE THAT THE MOTHER OF THE REV, DAVID RICE WHO GAVE SO MUCH OF THE HISTORY OF THE RICE FAMILY OF HANOVER COUNTY, VA. WAS A SUSANNA SEARCY. THESE FAMILIES SEEMED TO HAVE NOT SPACED THEMSELVES FROM EACH OTHER!! > >If you are descended from one of Henry's children (or even from his brothers >some of whom went to South Carolina, one being killed at Battle of King's >Mountain), I shall be glad to share information with you concerning Henry, in >particular. > >E.W.Wallace (female) >descendant of Henry's father, Daniel as well as Henry's uncle, John Williams, >Sr. of colonial Granville Co., NC (Nutbush Creek area) > >Here is some info I have in a brief (incomplete, of course, as always) bio of >William H. Rice. > >Preparer:  Evelyn W. Wallace >Rev Mar 1996 > >     WILLIAM H. RICE (d. 1833).  WIR02265 Husband of Susannah Williams, "heir >of Henry Williams," of Caswell Co., NC.  It is surmised that he married 1st) >Nancy Williams, sister of Susannah Williams.  Then he probably married 2nd) >Susannah after her husband Christopher Brooks died (before Dec 1781, Caswell >Co. court minutes in which she resigned her administration of Christopher >Brooks). > >    Refer to the deeds below, indicating Rice is the husband (successively) >of both of these (deceased) daughters of Henry Williams. > >      Rice is believed to be the same William H. Rice who subsequently >married Elizabeth M. Boman, as indicated in Bounty Land Warrant and Rev. War >Widow's pension (3rd wife?) cited below.  However, the pension claim >indicated he was a long-time resident of Rockingham Co., NC. I IMAGINE THAT THE "M" GIVEN AS HER INITIAL WAS ACTUALLY THE LETTER "W" FOR WALKER. IN THE OLD SCRIPTS, IT WAS OFTEN DIFFICULT TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE. > >    Deeds of Caswell Co. indicate a William H. Rice owned land in that county >as late as 1811 (Q-330), possibly as late as 1818 (S-124).  Other deeds >indicate he was the son of John Rice (DB O-218-9).  He was associated with >Thomas Rice (DB N-47); Elisha Rice, who was executor of John Rice decd late >of Davidson Co., TN and also atty in fact for Nathan Rice and Joel Rice heirs >of John Rice, decd (DB M-311-2).I BELIEVE THIS ASSOCIATION WITH JOHN RICE CAME FROM HIS BEING MARRIED TO JOHN'S GRANDDAUGHTER, SALLY GOOCH. SALLY'S MOTHER WAS FRANCES RICE, DAUGHTER OF JOHN RICE, WHO MARRIED WILLIAM GOOCH. > >     By 1838, he was selling land in Caswell Co.: > >     DB DD-430  William H. Rice of Rockingham Co. to Stephen Rice of CC, for >$650, 363 A adj William Slade formerly James W. Brown, Samuel Tapscott, >Joseph Windsor, Charles Thacker, Nathan Williams, Thomas Reid, Robert Brown >(son of Robert Brown decd).  13 Mar 1838.  Wit:  William C. Rice, William >Slade. IT WOULD SEEM THAT WILLIAM WAS DIVESTING HIMSELF OF ANY PROPERTY THAT HE OWNED PRIOR TO HIS AND ELIZA'S DEPARTURE FOR MISSOURI. THE SAMUEL TAPSCOTT( ANOTHER OF MY FAMILIES) WHO IS GIVEN AS ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS ADJOINING HIS PROPERTY, WAS ALSO CREDITED WITH LIVING IN ROCKINGHAM COUNTY. THIS MAKES ME THINK THAT THE LAND WAS ON THE BORDER OF CASWELL AND ROCKINGHAM. > >     (Katharine Kerr Kendall, CASWELL COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOKS >1817-1840) I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE INFORMATION I HAVE PROVIDED ADDS ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT TO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, BUT IF YOU ARE LIKE ME, I LIKE TO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO SURROUNDED MY FOLKS. IT JUST SEEMS TO ROUND THEM OUT AS TRUE PERSONALITIES. I GUESS THAT THE EXPRESSION OF BEING KNOWN BY THE COMPANY ONE KEEPS, IS APPROPRIATE HERE. BEST REGARDS, JOHN ---------10328b823f5c328410328b823f5c3284--