This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wells, Malone, Rainey, Staples, Warren, Moore Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RSB.2ACE/1680 Message Board Post: I am attempting to locate Lynch's Creek Primitive Baptist Church. I recently drove all over the eastern portion of Caswell County, asking all of the "old-timers" that I could find about it's location. No one was able to provide any help. A Wells cousin, Jim Wells, found the following on the internet about some Caswell cemeterys: "I came across a notation of a Malone Family Cemetery with directions to it down Corbett-hard surfaced road and close to Lynches Creek Primitive Baptist Church and near Willie Warren and Will Moore's farm about 3 miles from NC Highway #86 near Hyco and Lynches Creek----I believe these directions were notated to have been written in the late 50's or early 60's" Can anyone provide futher information about this location? Is this perchance, under the Hyco lake? I will greatly appreciate any help on this. Our ancestor, Miles Wells, is supposed to have been instrumental in establishing this church. His son, William "Willis" Wells joined the Lynches Creek Church in 1814, became a deacon in 1821, ordained as a minister in 1840 and was chosen as paster in 1849. Two of Miles Wells' sons intermarried with decendants of Daniel Malone and his wife, Elizabeth Staples. Miles Wells, Jr. married Perthenia Malone, as his first wife;another son, Thomas Lee Wells married Mary Robards Rainey, daughter of Isaac Rainey and Sarah Malone. Sarah was a daughter of Daniel. I would also appreciate information on the Rainey family, earlier and later. Best regards, John Fox Winston Salem, NC

Chuck Gibson asked: I was looking on the genweb page for Caswell and saw a Harris family that left for Madison Co KY. Was travel between the two counties common? I have a Elizabeth Harris married to a Uriah Davis in Madison Co KY. They named a son Tyre. Elizabeth was born in NC but I don't know where. A John Harris was both bond and oath of age for Elizabeth. Don't know if he's a brother, father or cousin. Response: Yes, quite a few North Carolinians migrated to Kentucky. One cannot always determine these migrations unless you study some of those with common names (Williams, Harris, Simpson, even Oldham) as a group. In Madison Co. (near Clark Co., KY) Boonesborough, named for Daniel Boone of western North Carolina, was founded [some may quarrel with that word] by Col. Richard Henderson of Granville Co. and a group of his associates, who were mostly from Granville Co. and Caswell Co., NC, with perhaps some from Orange Co. and that area. Some of these families were greatly intermarried, and that is why one has to study them as a group. There were many disputes about land claims in Kentucky, and a Kentucky court of appeals was set up. A couple of genealogists, Michael L. Cook and his wife [now widow] Bettie Cummings Cooke of Indiana, have transcribed and published some of the early court records of Kentucky, and one can find depositions of some early settlers, telling with whom they associated, etc. Access the LDS online catalog at <A HREF="www.familysearch.org">www.familysearch.org</A> to find the exact titles of these books. Perhaps you can interlibrary loan some of them through your public library, but probably NOT from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. Films can generally be borrowed through a nearby LDS center, but not books. Also, in Caswell Co. deeds, I find sometimes that people who have already migrated elsewhere (say, to Tennessee or Kentucky), are selling their property in Caswell Co., and the deed may begin thusly: *Nathan Williams of Montgomery Co., TN..... * or *Joseph Williams of Madison Co., KY....* (This is how I discovered migrations of several sons of Henry Williams, deceased ca 1786 in Caswell Co.) Other Kentucky counties were also targets of migration--Henderson Co., KY was a magnet for many North Carolinians. In fact, the deed books describe some of the property "Henderson & Co. grant." I hope this helps you understand that our ancestors had wanderlust. Tobacco, I am told, wears out the soil, and people are on the move to find newer land. Our red-skinned brethren had to move on or cede [it is said] the land. Hope this helps. History goes hand-in-hand with genealogy. E.W.Wallace PS for Chuck: Suggest you subscribe to both Madison Co. KY rootsweb as well as Harris-Hunters. Ask me for addresses if you don't have them. I suspect John Harris, reported father of Elizabeth, MAY be the son of Christopher Harris the elder of Madison Co., formerly of Albemarle Co., VA. If so, then he is a half-brother of my Overton Harris (d. 1827 in Madison Co.). I have some info about John Harris but not about his children. I can follow these families only so far. John did have a sister named Elizabeth. From the info you give, I cannot determine whether Elizabeth is his sister or his daughter. EWW

I was looking on the genweb page for Caswell and saw a Harris family that left for Madison Co KY. Was travel between the two counties common? I have a Elizabeth Harris married to a Uriah Davis in Madison Co KY. They named a son Tyre. Elizabeth was born in NC but I don't know where. A John Harris was both bond and oath of age for Elizabeth. Don't know if he's a brother, father or cousin. Chuck Gibson

Once again Ronnie, Thanks. You've given me much to ponder. Your information plus what I found on genforum should keep me going for some time. Chuck Gibson On Friday 27 December 2002 12:57 pm, Ronald Weiss wrote: > Chuck, > Glad to share information with you from the Caswell County North Carolina > books I have. > >

A tidbit about Caswell Co. in 1802: (Katherine Kerr Kendall, Caswell Co. 1777-1877 Historical Abstracts of Minutes of Caswell Co., North Carolina from FHL film 1036557) "Abstracts from Public and Private Laws of North Carolina Relative to Caswell Co. - Volumes Read at Supreme Court Library" (same source as cited above) 1802-p. 25 Act to establish academy at the court house in Caswell Co. by subscriptions. Trustees of Caswell Academy to be Thomas Donoho, Solomon Graves, Jesse Carter, Alexander Murphy, David Mitchell, Richard Simpson, Marmaduke Williams, Michael Montgomery, John McAden, James Yancey, and Henry Atkinson. If you have some information to contribute re Richard Simpson (the younger) and Marmaduke Williams, I will exchange info. E.W.Wallace a descendant of Richard Simpson's sister, Elizabeth (Simpson) wife of Jesse Oldham of Madison Co., KY

Chuck, Glad to share information with you from the Caswell County North Carolina books I have. Reference "CASWELL COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA WILL BOOKS 1843-1868", Abstracts By Katharine Kerr Kendall, 1986: p. 10, July Court 1845, Page 213 Inv of property of Henry Roper decd. by Wm. Lea Adm. Bonds on Tillotson & John McCain, John H. Casort, John Reid, Richard Yarbrough, Sherod Owen, et al. Cash recd by widow for crops sold. p. 11, Page 220, Inv. property of Henry Roper decd taken 16 May 1845. Sales to Mary Roper, Wm. L. Foster, Charles Hendrick, Ambrose Bennett, et al. By Wm. Lea Adm. p. 12, October Court 1845, Will Book P, Page 246, Plat of widow's allotment of land of Henry Roper decd. by Henry Bushnell CCS (Caswell County Surveyor). 28 Aug 1845. Land to Mary Roper widow adj. Wm. L. Brandon, Mill meeting house, Country Line Creek to Anthony Stephens. Remainder of land not assigned adj. John Wilson, Dr. Garland, M. P. Huntington, Y. Pass. p. 13, Page 268, sales of property of estate of Henry Roper decd. sold 12 Nov 1845 to: Mary Roper (plus about 50 others)... p. 14, Book P 1846, Page 285, Div of lands of estate of Henry Roper decd to Widow, Francis C. Roper, John A. Elmore and wife, John S. Connally and wife, Hezekiah Roper, Nancy C. Roper, William H. Roper, John E. Roper, Thomas C. Pass and wife, Tillotson McCain and wife, Thomas Reid and wife, heirs of Araminta Jones wife of Benjamin Jones, Rachael R. Roper. Plat on page 289. p. 15, Book P 1846, Page 323, Allotment for year to Mary C. Roper widow of Henry Roper, deck. 11 Nov 1845. p. 18, Will Book P, October Court 1846, Page 363, WILLIAM H. ROPER - Will - w. 1 Aug 1846. Wife Elizabeth Roper all land coming from Henry Roper's estate also note on Benjamin Jones - then all to go children namely Mary E. Roper, Isabella, Clemontine, Alice and any unborn child. Wit: Thomas C. Pass, John S. Connally, Tillotson McCain. Exec: John Comer. p. 28, Book Q 1848, Page 20, Sales property of Thomas Read by Thomas C. Pass exec. Sales to ... (10 incl.) Mary Roper p. 34, Book Q 1849, Page 191, Credits to estate of Henry Roper. Distribution of balance of estate of the intestate to John E. Roper, Anderson Elmore, Tillotson McCain, Wm. Roper, Thos. C. Pass, Spencer Connally, Tho Reed, Benjamin Jones, Hezekiah Roper. p. 34, Page 192, William Lea adm of H. Roper; also receiving from estate Thos Brandon, Rich'd Bennett, Nancy C. Roper, Mary L. Roper. All paid except share due children of Mrs. Jones decd, wife of Benj. Jones and daughter of the intestate, which is to maintained by a guardian. p. 60, April Court 1853, Book R, Page 36, Elizabeth H. Roper and heirs of William per decd. petition for sale of land. Land sold to Thomas C. Pass. p. 67, Book R 1854, Page 174 Additional inv of William Lea, adm of Henry Roper decd. p. 67, Page 174, John Watlington decd of Halifax Co., VA who was reported to be a Captain in the American Revolution of the VA line has died and left surviving him as his children and heirs at law the following:...Elizabeth Roper formerly Elizabeth Watlington who married John E. Roper, decd. and who still survives him...; p. 123, Book S, Jamnuary C 1862, Page 463, Inv estate of Nicholas L. Walker decd ...bad debts on Elizabeth Roper... p. 160, Guardian Accounts 1849, Page 45, Guardian Mary S. Boyles formerly Mary S. Roper) Orphan - Nancy C. Roper p. 165, Guardian Accounts 1854 Page 152, Guardian Thos C. Pass, Orphan - Mary E., Clemingtine, and Alvis Roper **There are also about 80 entries in the CC Will Book index to BURTON**. Reference "CASWELL COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA Marriage Bonds 1778-1868", Compiled by Katharine Kerr Kendall, 1981,1991, Reprinted by Clearfield 1999 ROPER David m. Nancy LEWIS, 13 Jul 1801, Giden Robertson ROPER Henry m. Rachel FARLEY, 4 Oct 1810, Abner Burton ROPER Henry m. Polly Elmore 9 Nov 1832, Owen McAleer ROPER James m. Mary Oneill 27 Mer 1792, John Peterson ROPER William m. Kiziah Yates 31 Aug 1781, John Yeats ROPER William F. m. Emily M. GUNN 15 Aug 1836, William P. GUNN Reference "CASWELL COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOKS 1817-1840", Abstracts By Katharine Kerr Kendall, 1992, Published by Genealogy Publishing Service, Franklin, NC p. 11, Deed Book A, Page 186, David ROPER of CC to William ROPER of CC, for 250 lbs, 224 A on both sides Rattlesnake Cr. adj. Alexander Montgomery, 20 June 1779 p. 61, Deed Book C Page 1, William ROPER Robert Morror, for 400 lbs. 38 A adj David ROPER, the tract Morrow has now in his possession, Also signed by Keziah Roper. 13 Jan 1784. p. 138, Deed Book H, Page 85, William ROPER of CC top David Roper and Sarah Roper his Father & Mother, for love and affection, 50 A on Rattlesmake Cr being the land whereon David Roper lines adj. Edmund Alley, Edward Swan, Hubbert, Wm. Roper, 25 Sept 1792 p. 299, Deed Book Q, Page 76, John ROPER of CC to Henry ROPER of same , for $500, 100 A on Country Line Cr adj William Yates, heirs of Thomas Boulton. 3 Nov 1809 and others... Hope this is of help. Ronnie Weiss, in Virginia Descendent of STRPHENS and PLEASANTS in Caswell Co., North Carolina -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Gibson [mailto:cathal@flash.net] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 9:34 AM To: Ronald Weiss Subject: Re: Will Book P 1843-1847 Thank you Ronnie. Yours was the first reply on the subject.. His parents ( Henry H Roper / Rachel Farley ) were born and married in Caswell Co. This line has cousin marriages. His Sister Anna Eliza Roper married John Anderson Elmore. Their son married a dau of Williams (Mary Elizabeth). Chuck Gibson On Friday 27 December 2002 08:05 am, you wrote: > Chuck, > Did someone answer you on William Henry Roper? Also, no ROPER marriage bonds in Person Co. > Ronnie Weiss, in Virginia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Gibson [mailto:cathal@flash.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:33 PM > To: NCCASWEL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Will Book P 1843-1847 > > Could some kind soul check the subject book for William Henry Ropers will? Other names I have in the > county are Farley, Burton, Lea/Lee and Yates. > > As yet I'm stil unable to find William Ropers Wifes name. >> > Thank you >> Chuck Gibson

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RSB.2ACE/1107.1248.1250.2.1 Message Board Post: thanks for the citation...I'll take it on after the holidays Have a very merry Christmas. Dave

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RSB.2ACE/1107.1248.1250.2 Message Board Post: Oops! I forgot to say that although lots of records spell the name "Summers". my family always spelled it "Somers". They were an English family and I believe the Somers is correct.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RSB.2ACE/1107.1248.1250.1 Message Board Post: Fairfax county, Va. records will shed some light, plus the book with a name like "Under a White Oak" concerns that area of Fairfax county. There is an article in the Historical Journal of Fairfax County, vol 26, 1997-98 by Susan Green Leigh and Martin Levering concerning this family. Good luck.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SUMMERS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RSB.2ACE/1107.1248.1250 Message Board Post: I would love to learn more of "Old" John SUMMERS, George, and the extended clan of 400 or so descendants at the time of his death, if someone can enlighten me, or point me in the right direction, I would be grateful. Dave

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SMITH, SIMPSON, NASH, KERR, PINSON, BARNWELL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RSB.2ACE/1679 Message Board Post: From Probate of William Smith 31 Jan 1832 Sale of Slaves: JACKSON 17 years old to Alred NASH CISERO 12 Years old to James KERR MOSES 32 years old and SARAH and CHILD 33 years old and SUSANAH 3 years old to Thomas PINSON - son in law of William Smith - Thomas Pinson and his wife Martha "Patsey" went to Carroll Co, TN ANTHONY 22 years old to William BARNWELL son in law of William Smith. His wife was Elizabeth Smith ESTHER 33 years old, not sound to George SIMPSON HENRY 5 years old and VINE ? 10 years old to wife Mary SMITH

John, Thanks so much! I will add it to the Caswell Co. page. Nola PS, Merry Christmas to all. I hope Santa will deliver all your missing links!

Hello Caswellites, Saw this page on the internet, and seemed to have a lot of names familiar to the Caswell area. Just thought that I would pass it along. John Fox Winston Salem, NC http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/va/hanover/court/hanover.txt

[Milton Spectator excerpts, 3 Jan 1836] [excerpted by Mark A. Murphy 19 Dec 2002] ATTEMPT TO ASSASSINATE NICHOLAS. -We are sorry to hear that the contagion of assassination has extended to the Russian Dominions.......His Imperial Majesty was shot by a ruffian. An aide-de-camp was killed by his side..... ----------------- TEXAS. Governor Houston has formed his Cabinet, which consists of:- Stephen F. Austin, Secretary of State. Henry Smith, Secretary of the Treasuray. Thomas J. Rusk, Secretary of War. Samuel Rhodes Fisher, Secretary of Navy. James Collingsworth, Attorney General. ------------------ FRANCE.- There has been a attempted Revolution in France; headed by Louis Napoleon Bonaparte, a nephew of the Emperor Napoleon. It was easily subdued, and the young man and the Colonel of a Regiment, who acted in concert with him, taken prisoners. ------------------ POLITICAL MEETING...... ...the following toasts were drank.... Arkansas.- Your first political acts proclaim your virtue and intelligence; we willingly acknowledge you a full blooded sister. (1 gun, 3 cheers.) .....By Mr. A. Williamson. M. Van Buren, the worthy successor of Andrew Jackson.... ....By Wm. Florence, Esq. The democracy of Caswell, may they never be defeated... ...By Capt. J. Penis. May the successor of Andrew Jackson administer the government on the principles of the present administration.... -------------------- MARRIED, In this place on Friday the 30th ultimo, by the Rev. N. H. Harding, Mr. James Lawrence, to Miss Catharine Sneed. ----------------- In Rockingham County, on Thursday the 8th ult. by Sampson L. Cryer, Esq. Mr. Henderson Jones to Miss Mary, daughter of Capt. Michael Colley of Mississippi, also by the same, on the 15th ult. Mr. Amos G. Walker to Miss Harriet D. Hancock of Rockingham. ---------------- In Rockingham County, on Tuesday the 20th ultimo, Mr. E. G. Browning, formerly of Caswell, to Miss Nancy, daughter of Mr. Clement Whittemore, of the former county. ---------------- DIED, In this county on the 6th ult. after a lingering illness, Mrs. REBECCA ALLEN, wife of Henry Allen, Esq. In announcing the death of this truly estimable lady, we will suffice it to say that she was a pious and exemplary member of the Methodist Episcopal Church, and that she was distinguished among her sex for those virtues which beautify and adorn the female character. To her husband and children her loss will be irreparable. ---------------- OBITUARY Died, in Yanceyville, on the night of the 30th of November last, Mr. JAMES UZZLE.- Mr. U was a native of Isle of Wight, Virginia, and had been a resident of Yanceyville but a few months. Although his sojourn with us was short, his deportment as a gentleman and christian, had endeared him to all with whom he had intercourse, and his untimely end is deeply deplored. The deceased was an exemplary and pious member of the Baptist Church. He has left an amiable widow an interesting little daughter to lament a loss to them irreparable. His mortal remains are inurned at the Baptist Church in this vicinity, there to await the sound of the trump that shall summon the dead to arise and appear before the bar of Jehovah. ---------------- A list of Letters remaining in the Post Office at Milton, N.C. January 1st, 1837, which if not taken out in three months, will be sent to the General Post Office as dead letters. A K Leroy Atkinson. Mrs. Kidd. B L Lelia M. Brown, Luey M. Lewis, Antonio Benceni, 2 Golden Fleece Lodge, 2 Sarah Buckner, Wm. B. Langhorn. Armistead W. Boyd. M C Merry Maynard John H. Crockett, Dr. H. Mc'Aden, Allen Case, Lemuel F. Moseley. Mildred H. Connally, P R. T. Coleman, John Patterson. Thomas Cardwell, R Samuel Chaney, Elmira Robinson. R.T. Crowder. D S Elizabeth W. Davis. Daniel Smith, F Benj. M. Smith, P. Fitzgerald. Mary Stamps. G T John B. Gaines, A. B. Thomas, James Grubbs, Dabney Terry, Thomas C. Green, Wm. E. Teed, T. L. Gatewood, Joel Thomas. William Gordon. W H William Word, Samuel Hobart, Lucy Woody, John Hughes, James White, Z. Hazelbut, Fleming Wood, 2. Gregory Hightower. R. P. Wooding, Silas H. Woodard, J Judith Wall. James Jones, Y Miss Mary C. Jones. Nancy Yancey. Persons calling for any of the above letters, will please say they are advertised. N. J. Palmer, P. M. -------------------------- TO SLAVE OWNERS, As the hirings are approaching, and the Raleigh and Gaston Rail Road Company wish to hire as many hands as possible on their work- I would like to say a few words on the subject. Those who know any thing about the treatment of hands on the road, are already satisfied that it is such as no slave owner could object to. [that's mighty white of them-mm] .... I am assured by many of the most judicious farmers, that it is impossible to make as much from hands on the farm as they are receiving on the rail road..... Charles M. Garnett. Chief Engineer.... I, as Agent for Mrs. Hodge have hired her hands to work on the Greensville and Roanoke rail road for the last nine months, and am fully satisfied they have been very well treated. Rich'd Bullock. December 2d, 1836..... -------------------------- State of North Carolina, CASWELL COUNTY, Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions, October Term, 1836. The Petition of John Pleasant, Tignal Pleasant, James B. Pleasant, Francis Pleasant, William Pleasant, Louisa Pleasant, Lucy Griffith and William Rascoe and his wife Airy. vs. John Rascoe his wife Martha, and Mary Vaughan. Petition for sale of slaves..... -------------------------- State of North Carolina, Caswell County, James W. Jeffreys v. John Webster and Alfred M. Lea} In Equity November Term, 1836. -------------------------- TAN YARD! HAVING purchased of Dr. John T. Garland the Tan Yard in the town of Milton, the subscribers respectfully inform the public that they have employed Mr. Theodorick L. Williamson..........and will endeavor to merit a liberal share of their patronage. Thomas C. Green, Henderson Stanfield. Milton, N. C. Nov. 15, 1836 2-tf.

[Milton Spectator excerpts, 7 Nov 1832] [excerpted by Mark A. Murphy, 18 Dec 2002] Plain Dealing.- We perceive by the Salisbury Journal, that the friends of the Union have had a meeting in Burke County, North Carolina, at which much eloquence was displayed. Mr. Carson alone advocated nullification. When he took his seat, David Buker, Esq. Revolutionary soldier, venerable for his age and unblemished character, rose with staff in each hand to support his tottering frame, and requested permission to address a few words to his fellow citizens. After promising that he was probably the oldest man in the house, he went on to say that he enlisted under Washington, in the first regiment raised in Virginia, in the beginning of our revolutionary struggle; and after other remarks, be added, that in those days there were men who attempted to resist the laws of their Government, and they were publicly tarred and feathered; and, continued the venerable old patriarch, he feared that it must come to that here! When this was uttered, the whole audience, as if by one impulse, united in a most deafening applause; and the old veteran sat down, amidst the enthusiastic cheers of his fellow citizens. N. C. Spectator. -------------- Unfortunate Occurence.- We learn from a correspondent, that on Thursday, 25th ultimo, Honestus H. Boon, of Johnson county, returning home in company with Mr. Devereaux Hopkins, a young man and near relative, with whom he had devoted the principal part of the day to squirrel hunting, accidently shot himself and expired within a very few moments, apparently without any pain. This melancholy accident was occasioned by falling from a fence upon which they were sitting. Mr. Boon was a young man, just entered upon the stage of life, in the 22d year of his age, with very flattering prospects, and was much respected. He has left a widowed mother, and aged grandfather and grandmother, a sister, and three brothers, with a large circle of other relatives, friends and acquaintances to bemoan his fate. Ral. Star. -------------- Wake Forrest Institute Messrs. Gales & Son: By some means, a report has been circulated, stating that the number of Students has been entered, to which this Institution is to be limited; and as this report is calculated to prevent persons from applying who may wish to enter the Institution, I take this method of stating, that the report is incorrect. The number is limited to 50, and there is a vacancy for about thirty Students; so that those who wish to avail themselves of the advantages of the Institute may do so, by making timely application. It is highly probable that we shall not be able to accomodate all who will apply, therefore those who may wish to enter, will do well to apply soon. All Communications and Letters directed to the Subcriber[sic] (post paid) will be attended to. James G. Hall. Raleigh, October 26, 1832. --------------- MARRIED, On Tuesda y evening last, by the Rev. B. Field, of the Methodist E. Church, Mr. PEYTON T. STUBBLEFIELD, of Rockingham, to MISS MARY NUNNALLY, of Caswell county, N.C. ----- DIED, At Leasburg, in this colony on Friday evening last after a long illness, MISS FRANCES HUBBIRD, daughter of Mr. John Hubbird of that place. Near Hillsborough on Wednesday 31st ult. Mr. MARTIN PALMER, aged about ninety years. He has supported throughout a long life the character of an industrious and honest man. Departed this life, of bilious inflammatory fever, at his residence in Pittsylvania County, Virginia, on the morning of the 28th October, 1352[1832?], ELDER CRISPIN DICKENSON, in the 45th year of his age, beloved and respected by all who knew him. At Wentworth, Rockingham County, on Monday the 29th ultimo, Mr. Robert J. Dodson, Tailor, aged about 27 years. ------------ RANAWAY. FROM the subscribers on the 9th Oct. a Negro man SANDY thirty five or forty years of age, dark complexion, five feet ten or eleven inches high. Said Negro is slow spoken and is easily distinguishable by the union of the second and third toes on each of his feet. It is probable that he may endeavour to reach some free State. For his delivery to the subscribers or commitment to jail, a reasonable reward will be given. Joseph M. Stanfield. Henderson Stanfield. November 7th 1832. 5-tf. ------------- NOTICE. Taken up and committed to the jail of this County, a NEGROMAN who calls himself Cyrus, and says he belongs to Thomas Spraggins, of Halifax Co. Va. and is about 60 years of age, dark complexion. The owner is requested to come forward prove property and pay charges, or he will be dealt with as the law directs. A. McAlpin, Jailor. Caswell C.H.N.C. Oct. 31st, 1832- 4-3t. ------------ WANTED TO HIRE. A negro woman who can cook and wash. Any person having such a one to hire will please apply at this office soon. Oct. 31st 1832. ----------- RELIGIOUS NOTICE. On Tuesday and Wednesday the 20th and 21st of November, a Methodist Quarterly Meeting in this county. On Thursday the 22d the Rev. Moses Brock, presiding Elder, and Rev. George W. Dye, will attend at Connally's Meeting House, near Milton. Oct. 31, 1832. ----------- FOR SALE. A TRACT of land containing about 1350 acres, lying on upper Hogan's Creek in the County of Rockingham, belonging to the Heirs of Charles Bruce deceased- this land is well watered, has on it a good seat for a Saw and Griss Mill, and a considerable portion of it well adapted to the culture of wheat, corn and tobacco. Any person wishing to purchase may know the terms by applying to the subscriber in Guilford county, on Haw River, ABRAHAM PEEPLES. September 19, 1832- 50- 6w pd. ----------

I am trying to find a Mrs. KATHARINE KERR KENDALL of Raleigh, N.C. who has researched records of Orange/Caswell Cos., NC on the LEA family. Bill Caddell

---------10328b823f5c328410328b823f5c3284 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I was going back over your message below and noticed some things to which I should have responded.  If you will indulge me, I will answer in capitial letters within your message below: John In a message dated Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:43:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, Hdanw writes: >Thank you for your interest in Henry Williams and his wife Elizabeth >(unknown) of Caswell Co., NC. > >I got an almost immediate reply from a gentleman in Tennessee and he caused >me look at the family group sheets which he had sent me sometime ago.  His >work seems to have been done very carefully.  However, he and I did not know >as much as you about Susannah Williams who married second William H. Rice and >her children.  Do you know where she might have died? SHE WOULD HAVE DIED BETWEEN 1794(THE APPROXIMATE BIRTHDATE OF DAUGHTER, MARCEY) AND 7 SEPTEMBER 1795 IN CASWELL COUNTY(THE MARRIAGE DATE OF WILLIAM TO SALLY GOOCH).  WILLIAM HIGGASON RICE REMAINED IN CASWELL UNTIL HE MARRIED MRS. ELIZABETH BOWMAN IN 1738.   A WRITTEN RECORD IN A BIRD FAMILY BIBLE STATES THAT THEY SETTLED IN MISSOURI, WHERE I SUPPOSE THAT HE DIED. ELIZABETH WAS BORN 27 FEBRUARY 1822, AND WAS A DAUGHTER OF ABNER AND MARY ANN FAUCETTE WALKER.  THERE WAS A LETTER OF ATTORNEY FILED IN CASWELL COUNTY FOR WILLIAM H. RICE AND WIFE ELIZA, AS BEING OF FRANKLIN COUNTY, MISSOURI, DATED 15 OCT. 1851. > >My correspondent is a descendant of Jane Williams (dau. of Henry and >Elizabeth of Caswell Co.) and her spouse David Rice Gooch.  They went to >Williamson Co., TN, and several of her siblings settled in that area. > >I did not know about William H. Rice's middle name.  Does this appear in a >document somewhere?  If I remember, he got a Rev. War pension, and there was >still another wife. Or, perhaps I have confused him with someone else. I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A PENSION APPLICATION WHICH INCLUDED HIS FULL NAME; HIS SISTER, MY ANCESTRESS, REBECCA RICE WINDSOR, HAD A SON NAMED JOHN HIGGASON WINDSOR, SO I FEEL THAT THE NAME HAS SOME SIGNIFICANCE TO THE RICE FAMILY, PERHAPS THE MAIDEN NAME OF THEIR MOTHER, WIFE OF THOMAS (CB) RICE. OF HANOVER, VA AND CASWELL, NC. > >Are you a descendant of one of Henry's children?  If so, which one? MY RELATIONSHIP IS NOT DIRECT, BUT A COLATERAL ONE. > >I am a descendant of Ursley Duke Williams and her second husband, Richard >"Ready-Money" Oldham who migrated to Madison Co., KY.  Her brother Joseph >Williams also migrated there.  I have to concentrate more on Madison Co., KY >where I am slowly reading the deeds.  It takes a long time, as so many of the >early  persons are my grandmother's ancestors!!!  (I am the hdanw@aol to whom >you refer in your e-mail--stole my husband's e-mail address.) > >Here is some info about Joseph: > >     By 1795, Joseph Williams of Caswell Co. NC, son of Henry, had sold some >of his property as deduced from the following Caswell Co. deeds: > >   1795 -  DB L-22-23 Joseph Williams of Madison Co., KY, to Israel Barker of >Orange Co., NC, for 20 pds., 100 A on Ridge fork adj Barker.  Wit:  Nathan >Williams, Eli Stacy.  (Nathan Williams was another son of Henry Williams, >deceased.) > >     L-158 Andrew McCauley of Orange Co., NC, to James Rea of CC, for 190 >pds., 304 A on N fork Stoney Cr being land formerly entered by Henry Williams >decd and conveyed by Joseph Williams a legatee to McCauley adj Benjamin >Cantrel, crossing Shaw's Br, Brothers, Kimbrough, Anderson, John Penix.  26 >Jan 1799.  Wit:  Obed Florence, Thomas Loyd. > >     (Katherine Kerr Kendall, CASWELL COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEEDS BOOKS >1777-1817 [Easley, SC:  Southern Historical Press, 1989], p. 202) > >Madison Co., KY Residence > >     Caswell Co. records indicate that Joseph, son of Henry, migrated to >Madison Co., KY, where some of his kinsmen, namely his brother-in-law, >Richard R/M Oldham (qv) and sister Ursley Duke (Williams) (Peoples) Oldham, >had migrated.  Joseph's wife is believed to be Sally Searcy, who may have >been his cousin.  Her mother was Lucy (said to be Williams) Searcy, widow of >Bartlett Searcy (qv), resident of Madison Co.  Lucy Searcy is believed to >have been sister of Daniel Williams I, who died in Granville Co. 1759.  This >relationship is outlined in Alvahn Holmes, SOME DESCENDANTS OF FARRAR'S >ISLAND [Richmond, VA:  1979], a work found in the DAR Library, Washington, >DC, and at the Family History Library, Salt Lake City.  It has been filmed by >the latter organization (and is available on loan from that Library through >LDS family history centers.)  Lucy's maiden name has not been confirmed by >this writer, however.  I BELIEVE THAT THE MOTHER OF THE REV, DAVID RICE WHO GAVE SO MUCH OF THE HISTORY OF THE RICE FAMILY OF HANOVER  COUNTY, VA. WAS  A  SUSANNA SEARCY.  THESE FAMILIES SEEMED TO HAVE NOT SPACED THEMSELVES FROM EACH OTHER!! > >If you are descended from one of Henry's children (or even from his brothers >some of whom went to South Carolina, one being killed at Battle of King's >Mountain), I shall be glad to share information with you concerning Henry, in >particular. > >E.W.Wallace (female) >descendant of Henry's father, Daniel as well as Henry's uncle, John Williams, >Sr. of colonial Granville Co., NC (Nutbush Creek area) > >Here is some info I have in a brief (incomplete, of course, as always) bio of >William H. Rice. > >Preparer:  Evelyn W. Wallace >Rev Mar 1996 > >     WILLIAM H. RICE (d. 1833).  WIR02265 Husband of Susannah Williams, "heir >of Henry Williams," of Caswell Co., NC.  It is surmised that he married 1st) >Nancy Williams, sister of Susannah Williams.  Then he probably married 2nd) >Susannah after her husband Christopher Brooks died (before Dec 1781, Caswell >Co. court minutes in which she resigned her administration of Christopher >Brooks). > >    Refer to the deeds below, indicating Rice is the husband (successively) >of both of these (deceased) daughters of Henry Williams. > >      Rice is believed to be the same William H. Rice who subsequently >married Elizabeth M. Boman, as indicated in Bounty Land Warrant and Rev. War >Widow's pension (3rd wife?) cited below.  However, the pension claim >indicated he was a long-time resident of Rockingham Co., NC. I IMAGINE THAT THE "M" GIVEN AS HER INITIAL WAS ACTUALLY THE LETTER "W" FOR WALKER.  IN THE OLD SCRIPTS, IT WAS OFTEN DIFFICULT TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE. > >    Deeds of Caswell Co. indicate a William H. Rice owned land in that county >as late as 1811 (Q-330), possibly as late as 1818 (S-124).  Other deeds >indicate he was the son of John Rice (DB O-218-9).  He was associated with >Thomas Rice (DB N-47); Elisha Rice, who was executor of John Rice decd late >of Davidson Co., TN and also atty in fact for Nathan Rice and Joel Rice heirs >of John Rice, decd (DB M-311-2).I BELIEVE THIS ASSOCIATION WITH JOHN RICE CAME FROM HIS BEING MARRIED TO JOHN'S GRANDDAUGHTER, SALLY GOOCH.  SALLY'S MOTHER WAS FRANCES RICE, DAUGHTER OF JOHN RICE, WHO MARRIED WILLIAM GOOCH. > >     By 1838, he was selling land in Caswell Co.: > >     DB DD-430  William H. Rice of Rockingham Co. to Stephen Rice of CC, for >$650, 363 A adj William Slade formerly James W. Brown, Samuel Tapscott, >Joseph Windsor, Charles Thacker, Nathan Williams, Thomas Reid, Robert Brown >(son of Robert Brown decd).  13 Mar 1838.  Wit:  William C. Rice, William >Slade. IT WOULD SEEM THAT WILLIAM WAS DIVESTING HIMSELF OF ANY PROPERTY THAT HE OWNED PRIOR TO HIS AND ELIZA'S DEPARTURE FOR MISSOURI.  THE SAMUEL TAPSCOTT( ANOTHER OF MY FAMILIES) WHO IS GIVEN AS ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS ADJOINING HIS PROPERTY, WAS ALSO CREDITED WITH LIVING IN ROCKINGHAM COUNTY.   THIS MAKES ME THINK THAT THE LAND WAS ON THE BORDER OF CASWELL AND ROCKINGHAM. > >     (Katharine Kerr Kendall, CASWELL COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOKS >1817-1840) I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE INFORMATION I HAVE PROVIDED ADDS ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT TO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, BUT IF YOU ARE LIKE ME, I LIKE TO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO SURROUNDED MY FOLKS.  IT JUST SEEMS TO ROUND THEM OUT AS TRUE PERSONALITIES.   I GUESS THAT THE EXPRESSION OF BEING KNOWN BY THE COMPANY ONE KEEPS, IS APPROPRIATE HERE. BEST REGARDS, JOHN ---------10328b823f5c328410328b823f5c3284 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <Bebenjohn@aol.com> Received: from aol.com (mow-m27.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by air-id12.mx.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILINID123-1216225056; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:50:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:50:56 -0500 From: Bebenjohn@aol.com To: Hdanw@aol.com Subject: Re: Henry Williams of Caswell Co., NC and Heirs MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <62CDF1BE.25D00BD0.021F46BB@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I was going back over your message below and noticed some things to which I should have responded. If you will indulge me, I will answer in capitial letters within your message below: John In a message dated Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:43:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, Hdanw writes: >Thank you for your interest in Henry Williams and his wife Elizabeth >(unknown) of Caswell Co., NC. > >I got an almost immediate reply from a gentleman in Tennessee and he caused >me look at the family group sheets which he had sent me sometime ago.  His >work seems to have been done very carefully.  However, he and I did not know >as much as you about Susannah Williams who married second William H. Rice and >her children.  Do you know where she might have died? SHE WOULD HAVE DIED BETWEEN 1794(THE APPROXIMATE BIRTHDATE OF DAUGHTER, MARCEY) AND 7 SEPTEMBER 1795 IN CASWELL COUNTY(THE MARRIAGE DATE OF WILLIAM TO SALLY GOOCH). WILLIAM HIGGASON RICE REMAINED IN CASWELL UNTIL HE MARRIED MRS. ELIZABETH BOWMAN IN 1738. A WRITTEN RECORD IN A BIRD FAMILY BIBLE STATES THAT THEY SETTLED IN MISSOURI, WHERE I SUPPOSE THAT HE DIED. ELIZABETH WAS BORN 27 FEBRUARY 1822, AND WAS A DAUGHTER OF ABNER AND MARY ANN FAUCETTE WALKER. THERE WAS A LETTER OF ATTORNEY FILED IN CASWELL COUNTY FOR WILLIAM H. RICE AND WIFE ELIZA, AS BEING OF FRANKLIN COUNTY, MISSOURI, DATED 15 OCT. 1851. > >My correspondent is a descendant of Jane Williams (dau. of Henry and >Elizabeth of Caswell Co.) and her spouse David Rice Gooch.  They went to >Williamson Co., TN, and several of her siblings settled in that area. > >I did not know about William H. Rice's middle name.  Does this appear in a >document somewhere?  If I remember, he got a Rev. War pension, and there was >still another wife. Or, perhaps I have confused him with someone else. I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A PENSION APPLICATION WHICH INCLUDED HIS FULL NAME; HIS SISTER, MY ANCESTRESS, REBECCA RICE WINDSOR, HAD A SON NAMED JOHN HIGGASON WINDSOR, SO I FEEL THAT THE NAME HAS SOME SIGNIFICANCE TO THE RICE FAMILY, PERHAPS THE MAIDEN NAME OF THEIR MOTHER, WIFE OF THOMAS (CB) RICE. OF HANOVER, VA AND CASWELL, NC. > >Are you a descendant of one of Henry's children?  If so, which one? MY RELATIONSHIP IS NOT DIRECT, BUT A COLATERAL ONE. > >I am a descendant of Ursley Duke Williams and her second husband, Richard >"Ready-Money" Oldham who migrated to Madison Co., KY.  Her brother Joseph >Williams also migrated there.  I have to concentrate more on Madison Co., KY >where I am slowly reading the deeds.  It takes a long time, as so many of the >early  persons are my grandmother's ancestors!!!  (I am the hdanw@aol to whom >you refer in your e-mail--stole my husband's e-mail address.) > >Here is some info about Joseph: > >     By 1795, Joseph Williams of Caswell Co. NC, son of Henry, had sold some >of his property as deduced from the following Caswell Co. deeds: > >   1795 -  DB L-22-23 Joseph Williams of Madison Co., KY, to Israel Barker of >Orange Co., NC, for 20 pds., 100 A on Ridge fork adj Barker.  Wit:  Nathan >Williams, Eli Stacy.  (Nathan Williams was another son of Henry Williams, >deceased.) > >     L-158 Andrew McCauley of Orange Co., NC, to James Rea of CC, for 190 >pds., 304 A on N fork Stoney Cr being land formerly entered by Henry Williams >decd and conveyed by Joseph Williams a legatee to McCauley adj Benjamin >Cantrel, crossing Shaw's Br, Brothers, Kimbrough, Anderson, John Penix.  26 >Jan 1799.  Wit:  Obed Florence, Thomas Loyd. > >     (Katherine Kerr Kendall, CASWELL COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEEDS BOOKS >1777-1817 [Easley, SC:  Southern Historical Press, 1989], p. 202) > >Madison Co., KY Residence > >     Caswell Co. records indicate that Joseph, son of Henry, migrated to >Madison Co., KY, where some of his kinsmen, namely his brother-in-law, >Richard R/M Oldham (qv) and sister Ursley Duke (Williams) (Peoples) Oldham, >had migrated.  Joseph's wife is believed to be Sally Searcy, who may have >been his cousin.  Her mother was Lucy (said to be Williams) Searcy, widow of >Bartlett Searcy (qv), resident of Madison Co.  Lucy Searcy is believed to >have been sister of Daniel Williams I, who died in Granville Co. 1759.  This >relationship is outlined in Alvahn Holmes, SOME DESCENDANTS OF FARRAR'S >ISLAND [Richmond, VA:  1979], a work found in the DAR Library, Washington, >DC, and at the Family History Library, Salt Lake City.  It has been filmed by >the latter organization (and is available on loan from that Library through >LDS family history centers.)  Lucy's maiden name has not been confirmed by >this writer, however. I BELIEVE THAT THE MOTHER OF THE REV, DAVID RICE WHO GAVE SO MUCH OF THE HISTORY OF THE RICE FAMILY OF HANOVER COUNTY, VA. WAS A SUSANNA SEARCY. THESE FAMILIES SEEMED TO HAVE NOT SPACED THEMSELVES FROM EACH OTHER!! > >If you are descended from one of Henry's children (or even from his brothers >some of whom went to South Carolina, one being killed at Battle of King's >Mountain), I shall be glad to share information with you concerning Henry, in >particular. > >E.W.Wallace (female) >descendant of Henry's father, Daniel as well as Henry's uncle, John Williams, >Sr. of colonial Granville Co., NC (Nutbush Creek area) > >Here is some info I have in a brief (incomplete, of course, as always) bio of >William H. Rice. > >Preparer:  Evelyn W. Wallace >Rev Mar 1996 > >     WILLIAM H. RICE (d. 1833).  WIR02265 Husband of Susannah Williams, "heir >of Henry Williams," of Caswell Co., NC.  It is surmised that he married 1st) >Nancy Williams, sister of Susannah Williams.  Then he probably married 2nd) >Susannah after her husband Christopher Brooks died (before Dec 1781, Caswell >Co. court minutes in which she resigned her administration of Christopher >Brooks). > >    Refer to the deeds below, indicating Rice is the husband (successively) >of both of these (deceased) daughters of Henry Williams. > >      Rice is believed to be the same William H. Rice who subsequently >married Elizabeth M. Boman, as indicated in Bounty Land Warrant and Rev. War >Widow's pension (3rd wife?) cited below.  However, the pension claim >indicated he was a long-time resident of Rockingham Co., NC. I IMAGINE THAT THE "M" GIVEN AS HER INITIAL WAS ACTUALLY THE LETTER "W" FOR WALKER. IN THE OLD SCRIPTS, IT WAS OFTEN DIFFICULT TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE. > >    Deeds of Caswell Co. indicate a William H. Rice owned land in that county >as late as 1811 (Q-330), possibly as late as 1818 (S-124).  Other deeds >indicate he was the son of John Rice (DB O-218-9).  He was associated with >Thomas Rice (DB N-47); Elisha Rice, who was executor of John Rice decd late >of Davidson Co., TN and also atty in fact for Nathan Rice and Joel Rice heirs >of John Rice, decd (DB M-311-2).I BELIEVE THIS ASSOCIATION WITH JOHN RICE CAME FROM HIS BEING MARRIED TO JOHN'S GRANDDAUGHTER, SALLY GOOCH. SALLY'S MOTHER WAS FRANCES RICE, DAUGHTER OF JOHN RICE, WHO MARRIED WILLIAM GOOCH. > >     By 1838, he was selling land in Caswell Co.: > >     DB DD-430  William H. Rice of Rockingham Co. to Stephen Rice of CC, for >$650, 363 A adj William Slade formerly James W. Brown, Samuel Tapscott, >Joseph Windsor, Charles Thacker, Nathan Williams, Thomas Reid, Robert Brown >(son of Robert Brown decd).  13 Mar 1838.  Wit:  William C. Rice, William >Slade. IT WOULD SEEM THAT WILLIAM WAS DIVESTING HIMSELF OF ANY PROPERTY THAT HE OWNED PRIOR TO HIS AND ELIZA'S DEPARTURE FOR MISSOURI. THE SAMUEL TAPSCOTT( ANOTHER OF MY FAMILIES) WHO IS GIVEN AS ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS ADJOINING HIS PROPERTY, WAS ALSO CREDITED WITH LIVING IN ROCKINGHAM COUNTY. THIS MAKES ME THINK THAT THE LAND WAS ON THE BORDER OF CASWELL AND ROCKINGHAM. > >     (Katharine Kerr Kendall, CASWELL COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA DEED BOOKS >1817-1840) I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE INFORMATION I HAVE PROVIDED ADDS ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT TO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, BUT IF YOU ARE LIKE ME, I LIKE TO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO SURROUNDED MY FOLKS. IT JUST SEEMS TO ROUND THEM OUT AS TRUE PERSONALITIES. I GUESS THAT THE EXPRESSION OF BEING KNOWN BY THE COMPANY ONE KEEPS, IS APPROPRIATE HERE. BEST REGARDS, JOHN ---------10328b823f5c328410328b823f5c3284--

Dear Researchers of Early Virginia Williams Families, Although Frederick A. Virkus's compilation called The Compendium of American Genealogy is largely discredited by serious genealogists, still, one who is stumped about early Williams ancestor with the same first names for generations might give it a once-over, particularly if your Williamses were early in the US or in the southern colonies. These old Virkus volumes are found in many older public libraries in the reference section--along with the Who's Who volumes. If you don't find this compilation (many volumes) in your public library, ask your public librarian to do a computer or telephone search of nearby libraries and see where you can find it. Take a photocopy of appropriate Virkus pages at your library and go home and study and study and see if it makes sense, date-wise, and genealogy-wise. The dates in Virkus may be more appropriate than the ones you may have estimated for your colonial ancestors--at least, I find that so in the case of the Williams families I am studying--and trying to make sense of!!! For example, I recently was having a discussion (argument?) with a webpage master about her entries for one Nathaniel Williams, stating that she had combined two Nathaniel Williamses--father and son. I could not convince her that her submissions were incorrect. Her retort was that she did not have time to research in libraries, etc. I guess there is the need to see one's handiwork on the internet, imperfect as it is. Digging through my multitude of photocopies in my clutter room, I recently relocated some pages from Virkus, Vol. V, pages 689-690, the genealogy of one Owen, Thomas McAdory, Jr. (10 Apr 1894). He had Williams ancestors from colonial Virginia, along the James River. Among Owen's ancestors were two Nathaniel Williamses and their progenitor, one John Williams. His entry mentions some wives's maiden names and other offspring of these Williamses. (Don't get excited--these folks were from the South! The asterisks are to my added notes at the bottom.) To quote from page 689: 8 - John Williams (b. 1679) from Wales to Hanover Co., VA, ca 1738* 7 - Nathaniel (b. 1712) of Hanover and Bedford Cos., VA** 6 - Nathaniel (1741-1805) del. [delegate] Provincial Congress of NC, 1775; m. 1765 Mary Ann Williamson (b. 1745); their son Robert, was gov. of Miss. Ty [Mississippi Territory], 1805-09 5 - Judge Marmaduke (1774-1850), mem. NC Senate, 1803; mem. Congress, 1803-09; removed to Miss. Ty. ca. 1810; mem. Ala. Constl. Conv. 1819; judge Tuscaloosa Co. Cts.; mem. Ala. Legislature, 1821-40; m. Agnes (Payne) Harris (1775-1850; Robert Payne [6]; Josiah [7] [his son, John , was father of Dolly, who m. Pres. Madison]; George [8]; William [9]) *** Use these with caution, but those of us with common surnames, such as Williams, Harris, et al, need all the clues we can find. If certain persons in Virkus, as in the case of Judge Marmaduke Williams and his predecessors served in a prominent public office, there may be additional or augmenting information in the online Political Graveyard. Use <A HREF="www.google.com"> www.google.com</A> to find Political Graveyard. Then try to check more original sources than Virkus, who took the word of the submitter that the information was more or less correct. Folks, some of these genealogies are made-up, as frequently applicants to lineage societies are now finding out!!!! * The few remaining court records of Hanover Co., VA for this period verify that a John Williams (probably the father whom people claim came from Wales, a guesstimate at best), and probable sons: a Joseph Williams, a Nathaniel Williams, and a Daniel Williams with his wife Ursley who were residing in that county and at least witnessing documents. John Williams, the apparent father, died intestate (administration bond filed 5 June 1735). Source for info: Rosalie Edith Davis, Hanover County, Virginia Court Records 1733-1735: Deeds, Wills and Inventories [Manchester, MO], 1979, p. 64. Also refer to ca 1730 land patents, two of them, for John Williams in Hanover Co. as abstracted and indexed in Nugent's Cavaliers and Pioneers, I believe, Vol. 3. This John Williams is frequently confused with his son of the same name, who lived in the 1730s in Goochland Co. near Tuckahoe Creek and later migrated to Granville Co., NC. ** My research of Bedford Co. to date has failed to show this Nathaniel Williams. Has anyone located him? He is my elusive collateral!!! When last seen, his land was located in Louisa Co. on or near Mychunk or Mechunk Creek; Louisa had been formed from Hanover Co. ca 1742. As indicated, some, if not all, his sons went to North Carolina--the area of Surry Co. and Rockingham Co. *** The information in brackets pertains to the lineage of Agnes Payne Harris, widow of Robert Harris, who was son of Tyree Harris of Caswell Co., NC, formerly of Orange Co., NC, Louisa Co., VA, perhaps Albemarle Co., VA. For more information on Marmaduke Williams (not to be confused with another man called Duke Williams in Caswell Co.), refer to Who Was Who in America, Historical Volume 1607-1896 [Chicago, IL: Marquis Who's Who, 1967], p. 656) Also BIOGRAPHICAL DICTIONARY OF U. S. CONGRESS, p. 2059 I hope this information helps you in your continuing research of your early Virginia Williams families, clustered around the James River and later in Southside Virginia, and then spreading to North Carolina and areas south, north to Kentucky, and on west!!! Virkus is no better and no worse than some of the stuff on the internet, and in most cases, is probably more reliable, as somebody must have proofread that work before publication. E.W.Wallace

Hello! I'm hoping someone can help me. According to my gggggrandfather, Benjamin Edgerton's, Revolutionary War pension files, he was from "Caswell Co., Hillsborough District." Does anyone know where this is? His pension file also mentions 2 neighbors, Benjamin Letcher & William Jeffries. I'd appreciate any information you could give me. Thanks in advance. Roxanne

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