I am forwarding this from the Mitchell County discussion list because I am hoping that someone on the Avery County list can help us prove up / disprove that John VANCE who married Elizabeth "Lizzie" DAVIS was the same as John Wesley VANCE, Sr.. If you have info that will corroborate / disprove that they are one and the same, can you please supply sources? Thank you. Tamara G. SUTTLE Castle Rock, CO Tgsuttle@msn.com<mailto:Tgsuttle@msn.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: ncmitche-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ncmitche-request@rootsweb.com> To: ncmitche@rootsweb.com<mailto:ncmitche@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:01 AM Subject: NCMITCHE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 87 Today's Topics: 1. Re: John VANCE and Elizabeth "Lizzie" DAVIS (Marty Grant) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:55:04 -0400 From: Marty Grant <lists@martygrant.com<mailto:lists@martygrant.com>> Subject: Re: [NCMITCHE] John VANCE and Elizabeth "Lizzie" DAVIS To: ncmitche@rootsweb.com<mailto:ncmitche@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <48DE8188.5090601@martygrant.com<mailto:48DE8188.5090601@martygrant.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi all, Here are some details on this family. Most of the birth dates are from an old family record recently shared by Joanne Libera. Elizabeth Davis was born 24 Sep 1796 in Burke (now Avery) Co., NC, a daughter of William Davis (1730s-1841) and Frances Carpenter (1771-1842) of Three Mile Creek. Elizabeth Davis married William Vaughn on 2 Sep 1814 in Burke (now Avery) Co., NC. They had four children: 1. Alfred Vaughn, married Tempy Rich, both were deaf & dumb b.20 Oct 1815 Burke (now Avery) Co., NC d. after 1900 Graham Co., NC 2. Frances Vaughn, married Samuel Carpenter b. 20 Jan 1818 Burke (now Avery) Co., NC d. 25 Oct 1862 Mitchell (now Avery) Co., NC 3. Eleanor Vaughn b. 24 Sep 1823 Burke (now Avery) Co., NC 4. Nancy Vaughn b. 12 Jun 1824 Burke (now Avery) Co., NC William Vaughn died sometime between 1825 and 1828. His widow Elizabeth then married John Vance, exact date unknown. John Vance was born 5 Sep 1796 in South Carolina, probably Greenville District. Parents are unknown, though he may be a son of Matthew Vance and Barbara McVeigh, but that is unproven. John and Elizabeth had five children 5. Barbara Vance, married John Johnson b. 8 Jan 1828 Burke (now Avery) Co., NC d. after 1880 Mitchell (now Avery) Co., NC 6. William Vance, married 1-Elizabeth Franklin; 2-Frances Matilda Carpenter b. 12 Jan 1831 Burke (now Avery) Co., NC d. after 1880 Mitchell (now Avery) Co., NC 7. Thomas Vance, died young b. 4 Jan 1834 Yancey (now Avery) Co., NC d. 1834/1840 Yancey (now Avery) Co., NC 8. Flemming Vance, married Frances Matilda Daniels b. 12 Aug 1837 Yancey (now Avery) Co., NC d. 2 Apr 1918 Avery Co., NC 9. John W. Vance, married Lilly Ann Isaacs b. 5 Dec 1841 Yancey (now Avery) Co., NC d. 11 May 1917 Avery Co., NC The names and birth dates of the children are given in an old family record, probably taken from the family bible. This was shared with me by Joanne Libera: Memorandom (sic) of ages 1. John Vance was born September the 5 day 1796 2. Elisabeth Vaughn his wife was born September 24 day 1796 3. Alfred Vaughn was born October 25 day 1815 4. Frances Vaughn was born January 20 day 1818 5. Eleanor Vaughn was born September 24 day 1823 6. Nancy Vaughn was born June the 12 day 1824 7. Barbary Vance was born January 8 day 1828 8. William Vance was born July the 12 day 1831 9. Thomas Vance was born January the 4 day 1834 10. Flemmon Vance was born August the 12 day 1837 11. John Vance was born December the 5 day 1841 You will find John Vance on the 1830 census in Burke Co., NC, the 1840 in Yancey, the 1850 and 1860 in Watauga. He is missing in 1870. His widow Elizabeth is listed on the 1880 census in Mitchell with son John. I don't think John Vance (1796) had a middle name, or if he did, I've never seen any record of it. His son John (1841) was John W. Vance. I guess the "W" could stand for "Wesley" but I've seen no proof of that, but it may be correct. Check out my Davis and Carpenter web pages if interested in those families: http://www.martygrant.com/gen/carpenter.htm<http://www.martygrant.com/gen/carpenter.htm> http://www.martygrant.com/gen/davis.htm<http://www.martygrant.com/gen/davis.htm> Marty Grant (Marvin A. Grant, Jr.) email: mag@martygrant.com<mailto:mag@martygrant.com> web: http://www.martygrant.com<http://www.martygrant.com/> ------------------------------ To contact the NCMITCHE list administrator, send an email to NCMITCHE-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCMITCHE-admin@rootsweb.com>. To post a message to the NCMITCHE mailing list, send an email to NCMITCHE@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCMITCHE@rootsweb.com>. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCMITCHE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCMITCHE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of NCMITCHE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 87 ***************************************