This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bean/Bush Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5UB.2ACI/2739 Message Board Post: Help !! Need any information regarding a David Bean, born @ 1815, Burke? Co.,NC. Married 1833? Burke Co., to Sarah Bush. 1860 & 70 this family in Greene County, TN., near Rheatown. what happened to David & Sarah after 1870 ?? Left the county/died ? Have hit a 'stone wall' on these two. Thanks for any information you might have, happy to share the information that I do have.

Dear Hoke Cousins, This is a clarification to the previous post calling for papers for the Hoke book. >Plese understand this is not a reprint of the original; it is a volume of >updates, corrections, and additional new material. Parts of the original >book will not be reprinted in this text; however, they will be connected >to this text through references to what has been left out or where we are >adding new material. The first chapter of the book about the immigrant >is, indeed, being done in its entire format with all new material added in >the appropriate places. > >I simply DO WISH to clarify that this Vol II is NOT a TOTAL REPRINT with >updates. > > > Jean A. Berlekamp or Miriam K. Fankhauser > > 6812 No. C. R. 15 @ > > Green Springs, OH 44836 [email protected] > > Furthermore, I can answer any of your questions by phone at (419) 992-4534. > > We hope to reach as many of you as possible and are, therefore, using > snail > > mail as well as interact access. > > Jean A. Berlekamp

The book which has been the best (and only) reference on the HOKE family is to be reprinted. Solicitation for material has been made by the author. If you have anything relating to the HOKE family please read on. --Derick S. Hartshorn ------------------------------------------------- Dear Cousin Hoke, The time has come for which I am sure many of you have impatiently long awaited. It has been 23 years since the genealogy of the Johann Jacob Hoke family I... Hoke, bequeath was printed. I hope that all of you who either have purchased or have had access to a copy of the original have enjoyed your journey through our history. Finally, we have decided to publish Volume II with corrections, updated materials, and additions to the original volume. Hope L (Hoke) McConnell, who was instrumental in helping to collect material for the original book, is now deceased, as are many of the others who helped us. Therefore, I must depend on any and all of you who care to contribute material to help me with this volume. Some of you are my close relatives, some I have met in person, and some I have only spoken to by phone, while others of you have been only readers of my work. However, I implore all of you to help make this work as complete a record as is humanly possible. As you may now know, many corrections and additions can be made, and much new material can be added to this Hoke family history. Perhaps you have discovered errors; have more pictures, stories, or additions; can add all new family lines; or even place some of the fragmented families from Part lI in the original text into their rightful families in Part I. We really do want to make this volume as accurate and as complete as possible, even though we know a genealogy is obsolete by the time it is printed because change comes every second of time---this is the history of a family. I do not plan any further work on this family after this coming volume, but I will continue to collect your material if you wish to send it. However, I leave any subsequent publication in the capable hands of a future generation. We are looking at a one-year time schedule. Therefore, we need you to return your contributions to us by May 30, 2004, since most &the text is to be prepared this summer. Please direct your mailing to one of the following addresses: Jean A. Berlekamp or Miriam K. Fanldaauser 6812 No. C. R. 15 @ Green Springs, OH 44836 [email protected] Furthermore, I can answer any of your questions by phone at (419) 992-4534. We hope to reach as many of you as possible and are, therefore, using snail mail as well as interact access. The format and style of this volume will follow much the same design of the original book; the text will be completely indexed and will contain all material that is sent by you to be published. However, if you send color pictures, they will be rendered in black and white in the text because of the exorbitant price for color pictures in publication. Please double check and proof-read every name, date, and page of your submission. I will take your work in any form you care to send it, but we can only reproduce what you send. We cannot be responsible for incomplete information nor can we guess at information that is not clearly presented. We will return all pictures sent to us either with your book order or by special mailing after the book is published. I look forward to hearing from each and every one of you. However, if you personally do not care to help with the information concerning your family, please ask someone else who might wish to do so. I really do not want to omit any family who wishes to be a part of this history. We are selling the supplement by pre-publication orders only, and only one printing will be run. The cost will be determined by how much material is presented. At the present time we are able to estimate a book of 500-800 pages, hard bound will run between $50 and $70. We do hope that you understand it is very difficult to predict how much material might be sent to us in the next few months; therefore, it is also hard to predict a final price. Please give this letter your immediate attention. Furthermore, fill out the attached order form and enclose it and your down payment to reserve your copies of the book with the information you are submitting for your family. No refunds will be given once the orders have been placed. Only in some extenuating circumstance where we are unable to complete our end of the contract to deliver a book will we refund preorder payments. We will notify you of the balance due, not to exceed $30 as soon as we have a final price so that you can make arrangements to send the balance due. This balance will need to be sent before we can mail the completed volume to you. We are sincerely grateful for your contributions and your support in this major endeavor. Gratefully, your Hoke cousin, Jean A. Berlekamp

The Kentucky Legislature is getting ready to drastically limit access to Kentucky vital records including BIRTHS, DEATHS, MARRIAGES, and DIVORCE. (MILITARY RECORDS are also being limited but I do not know which bill is involved.) You can find the entire bill at: http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/record/04rs/HB100/SCS1.doc Death certificates will still be public record after 50 years but more recent death certificates will only be available to: 1. the decedent's widow or widower, 2. child eighteen (18) years of age or older 3. parent 4. grandparent 5. sibling eighteen (18) years of age or older 6. funeral director handling the decedent's funeral arrangements 7. personal representative of the decedent's estate 8. a named beneficiary of an insurance policy of the decedent 9. a person with a claim against the decedent's estate This means that genealogists can no longer order great-uncle Jasper's death certificate to see his parents' names. Birth records will be have limited access while the person is living but will still be public record after 100 years. Divorce and marriage records will be closed for 70 years. We are very late in the process. Jan 6-introduced in House; to Health and Welfare (H) Jan 15-posted in committee Jan 29-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee Substitute Jan 30-2nd reading, to Rules; floor amendment (1) filed to Committee Substitute Feb 2-posted for passage in the Regular Orders of the Day for Tuesday, February 3, 2004 Feb 10-3rd reading, passed 94-2 with Committee Substitute, floor amendment (1) Feb 11-received in Senate Feb 17-to State and Local Government (S) Mar 16-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee Substitute Mar 17-2nd reading, to Rules THIS TUESDAY, March 23, this bill will be voted on in the full Senate. If it passes, it will go to Gov. Fletcher for his signature into law. Call and email your senator and let him know that you want HB 100 to fail. Time is critical! Do it by Monday, at the latest. You can find your Senator at http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/whoswho/whoswho.htm Telephone: 502-564-8100 FAX : 502-564-6543 Postal address: 700 Capitol Avenue, Frankfort, KY 40601 Toll Free Numbers - 2004 Session (only for Kentucky) Bill Status Line: 1-866-301-9004 Legislative Message Line: 1-800-372-7181 This is the same bill that failed in committee during the last Legislative session. The genealogists of the state worked together to stop its passage. Please pass this information along to others. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The Bill--HB100 passed with some changes to the Bill in the House of Rep., but was never brought up for a re-vote in the KY Senate during this session, so did not become law thanks to the correspondance from the many genealogists who protested. If you have interests in these documents from Kentucky, please voice your protests as it is sure to come up again in the next session.. Many thanks, Betty Frazer ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:09 AM Subject: [NCBurke] PLEASE READ KENTUCKY TO TRY AGAIN TO STOP US GETTING RECORDS > The Kentucky Legislature is getting ready to drastically limit > access to Kentucky vital records including BIRTHS, DEATHS, > MARRIAGES, and DIVORCE. > > (MILITARY RECORDS are also being limited but I do not know > which bill is involved.) > > You can find the entire bill at: > http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/record/04rs/HB100/SCS1.doc > > Death certificates will still be public record after 50 years but > more recent death certificates will only be available to: > 1. the decedent's widow or widower, > 2. child eighteen (18) years of age or older > 3. parent > 4. grandparent > 5. sibling eighteen (18) years of age or older > 6. funeral director handling the decedent's funeral arrangements > 7. personal representative of the decedent's estate > 8. a named beneficiary of an insurance policy of the decedent > 9. a person with a claim against the decedent's estate > > This means that genealogists can no longer order great-uncle Jasper's > death certificate to see his parents' names. > > Birth records will be have limited access while the person is living but > will still be public record after 100 years. Divorce and marriage records > will be closed for 70 years. > > We are very late in the process. > Jan 6-introduced in House; to Health and Welfare (H) > Jan 15-posted in committee > Jan 29-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee > Substitute > Jan 30-2nd reading, to Rules; floor amendment (1) filed to Committee > Substitute > Feb 2-posted for passage in the Regular Orders of the Day for Tuesday, > February 3, 2004 > Feb 10-3rd reading, passed 94-2 with Committee Substitute, floor > amendment (1) > Feb 11-received in Senate > Feb 17-to State and Local Government (S) > Mar 16-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee > Substitute > Mar 17-2nd reading, to Rules > THIS TUESDAY, March 23, this bill will be voted on in the full Senate. If > it > passes, it will go to Gov. Fletcher for his signature into law. > > Call and email your senator and let him know that you want HB 100 to fail. > Time is critical! Do it by Monday, at the latest. > > You can find your Senator at > http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/whoswho/whoswho.htm > > Telephone: 502-564-8100 > FAX : 502-564-6543 > Postal address: 700 Capitol Avenue, Frankfort, KY 40601 > > Toll Free Numbers - 2004 Session (only for Kentucky) > Bill Status Line: 1-866-301-9004 > Legislative Message Line: 1-800-372-7181 > > This is the same bill that failed in committee during the last > Legislative session. The genealogists of the state worked together > to stop its passage. Please pass this information along to others. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ==== NCBURKE Mailing List ==== > NCBURKE-L [Co., NC] Mailing List - Sharing information on Historic Burke Co., NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb.com for hosting this list and web page >

Hello, I have been going throught the 1790 Census for Burke County, NC... there are 11 pages of names, but no townships are indicated. However, I notice that the Census is divided up into Companies, e.g., 11th comp., 12th comp.. Does anyone know what areas of Burke the various companies might represent. If not known directly, perhaps company areas can be inferred by surnames in known areas of Burke. Thanks, George

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ROSE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5UB.2ACI/2738 Message Board Post: married Mary Stree. Son John Jr. born in Burke County 1770, m. Mary Stafford. looking particulary for anything on John Sr. parents or country of origin. I've hit a dead end. thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5UB.2ACI/1111.1146.1 Message Board Post: I know this is a few years later..I might be able to help you w/information on Nathan. Stephanie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ROSE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5UB.2ACI/384.1 Message Board Post: I too am looking for infomation on John Rose Sr. of Burke Co. Did you ever find any information? thanks

Somebody has spammed this list as well as several others that I maintain. DO NOT follow the link that was listed. Delete the message. The idiot who sent the message has been blocked and RootsWeb administrators have been notified of this intrusion. If this has inconvenienced anyone, I apologize and I an doing everything to prevent any further unauthorized use of this, and other lists. Derick S. Hartshorn List owner At 10:39 AM 3/24/2004, Suzy-Q wrote: >I am wondering if the site has already folded.......I was taken to this page >(called "CREATE YOUR MONSTER") when I clicked the link you furnished, >John......... > >http://www.outwar.com/page.php?x=2077557&tom=1080135140&tom_ench=8af3ef6a386b52df4d4f654571e1bbd4&pro=4540187f56e91fc7ad9eb5ad7a73e956&r=&h=25e7ec84cd9a43ff95a7c0393468f582 > > >Suzy........ > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 4:16 PM >Subject: [NCBurke] Help > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query >Message Board URL: >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5UB.2ACI/2736 > >Message Board Post: >This site needs traffic in order to stay up. Please give it a try. It has >loads of information an any topic you could possibly think of and its all >free. >http://redir.ek.dk/PeopleFind > > > >==== NCBURKE Mailing List ==== >NCBURKE-L [Co., NC] Mailing List - Sharing information on Historic Burke >Co., NC >For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/ >Our thanks to RootsWeb.com for hosting this list and web page

I am wondering if the site has already folded.......I was taken to this page (called "CREATE YOUR MONSTER") when I clicked the link you furnished, John......... http://www.outwar.com/page.php?x=2077557&tom=1080135140&tom_ench=8af3ef6a386b52df4d4f654571e1bbd4&pro=4540187f56e91fc7ad9eb5ad7a73e956&r=&h=25e7ec84cd9a43ff95a7c0393468f582 Suzy........ ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 4:16 PM Subject: [NCBurke] Help This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5UB.2ACI/2736 Message Board Post: This site needs traffic in order to stay up. Please give it a try. It has loads of information an any topic you could possibly think of and its all free. http://redir.ek.dk/PeopleFind

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Did your Kellys migrate to Union County GA? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leola Russell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:33 PM Subject: [NCBurke] KELLY(KELLEY) Families in 1820 Burke County > My ggg-grandparents Hiram KELLY(KELLEY) and Elizabeth McGEE (daughter of > Patrick S. and Mary [Speer/Spear] McGEE) were married in Burke County NC > 19 Aug 1813. > > The 1820 Census records four KELLEY Families: Alexander; Hiram; James; > and Ruben. > > I have been unable to determine if a relationship exist between these > four families. > > Hiram (born ca 1787 in NC) and his family migrated to GA shortly after > 1820. > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Jonelle ELLIS Russell > email: [email protected] > > > ==== NCBURKE Mailing List ==== > NCBURKE-L [Co., NC] Mailing List - Sharing information on Historic Burke Co., NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb.com for hosting this list and web page > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5UB.2ACI/2735 Message Board Post: there is a David Johnson and Elizabeth Smith who are married in Burke county in 1827. there is a Robert johnson listed as a bondsman or witness to the marriage.. Also in 1810, there is a land sale to a Phillip Johnson from a Antoney(anthony) Walton, that is witnessed by David Johnson. Does anyone have any information on any of these individuals Thanks Todd Williams

Jonelle, I read your email below with interest. I'm not certain if we have corresponded before so forgive me if I am redundant:) There is a marriage bond dated December 28, 1823 in the North Carolina Archives for William Dorsey and Patsey Kelly. I am virtually certain that these are my ggggrandparents. The bondsman for the marriage was John Dunkin and the witness was Wm F. McKee. My third great-grandparents were William and Martha Dorsey. (Patsey was and is a nickname for Martha.) William Dorsey was the son of John H. Dorsey who started out in Lincoln County, NC (probably really Rowan but the first record of him is in Lincoln County.) John Dorsey moved through Burke and Macon Counties during the early 1800's and eventually settled in Pickens County, SC. I have not yet been able to find parents for Patsey but am actively looking! William and Martha followed along with John Dorsey through Macon County to Pickens County, SC. They settled, I believe, near Salem which is quite close to the NC/SC border. It would appear that at least some of the Kelly's also moved along this route. In the 1830 Macon County census, a Reuben Kelly was living about five houses down from John Dorsey. Reuben Kelly was still living in Macon County in the 1840 census though John Dorsey had moved on to South Carolina as had all of his (known) children. In South Carolina, John Dorsey owned property that was bounded by Alfred Kell(e)y. I also seem to recall a James Kelly in an earlier land record. I took a quick look through my files and can't verify that at the moment. A number of these Dorseys and Kelleys are buried in the Neville Cemetery outside Walhalla, SC. (Land records show that both Dorseys and Kellys owned property adjacent to Alexander Neville.) I believe that Alfred Kell(e)y was in some way connected to the web of Kell(e)ys in Anderson County, SC. I have corresponded with a couple of people who have made a better study than I of the Kell(e)ys in this area. I can put you in touch with them privately if you do not hear from them as a result of your post. At the present time, I don't think we really know for sure how many Reuben and James Kell(e)ys we are actually dealing with--whether all the records for each name in North and South Carolina are for the same or more than one individual. William and Martha Dorsey had two proven sons--Anderson and Elisha as well as two or three probable sons--John H. and Andrew and perhaps another who is yet unnamed. They also had a daughter, Amanda who married Francis Calloway McCall and lived out her life in Jackson County, NC. For many years there was a family rumor that my gggrandfather Harvey Kelley of Cumberland County, TN was actually a Dorsey from near Walhalla, SC. About two years ago, we used DNA testing combined with a few bits and pieces from the public records to show that Harvey was Elisha Dorsey the son of William who changed his name and moved to Tennessee shortly before 1870. You can read the details of that project at http://www.contexo.info/DorseyDNA/HarveyKelley.htm. I am working with the hypothesis that Elisha took his mother's maiden name as his alias. In spite of many family stories that purport to explain the circumstances around this name change, we have no idea how or why it happened. We eventually have expanded our DNA project to try to sort out the descendents of Andrew Dorsey who moved into Rowan County from Maryland in the late 1760's. Current results from that project can be seen at http://www.contexo.info/DorseyDNA/Results.htm. Specifics about the western North Carolina Dorseys can be seen by clicking on the link for "Andrew Dorsey Line Analysis" near the top of the page. We have several more samples at the lab and are actively recruiting other Dorseys with western North Carolina roots. Though we would not expect a match with our Dorsey/Kelley line, we would be very interested in extending our project to include direct line Kell(e)y males who can trace their lines back to western North Carolina and north western South Carolina in the late 1700's to early 1800's. Well, I see I have wandered away from your original post about the Kelly Families in 1820 Burke County. You can see though that I have a special interest in that same group and will look forward to sharing new ideas and information as they come along. Nancy Custer > -----Original Message----- > From: Leola Russell [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 11:33 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NCBurke] KELLY(KELLEY) Families in 1820 Burke County > > My ggg-grandparents Hiram KELLY(KELLEY) and Elizabeth McGEE (daughter of > Patrick S. and Mary [Speer/Spear] McGEE) were married in Burke County NC > 19 Aug 1813. > > The 1820 Census records four KELLEY Families: Alexander; Hiram; James; > and Ruben. > > I have been unable to determine if a relationship exist between these > four families. > > Hiram (born ca 1787 in NC) and his family migrated to GA shortly after > 1820. > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Jonelle ELLIS Russell > email: [email protected] > > > ==== NCBURKE Mailing List ==== > NCBURKE-L [Co., NC] Mailing List - Sharing information on Historic Burke > Co., NC > For further info, see http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/ > Our thanks to RootsWeb.com for hosting this list and web page >

My ggg-grandparents Hiram KELLY(KELLEY) and Elizabeth McGEE (daughter of Patrick S. and Mary [Speer/Spear] McGEE) were married in Burke County NC 19 Aug 1813. The 1820 Census records four KELLEY Families: Alexander; Hiram; James; and Ruben. I have been unable to determine if a relationship exist between these four families. Hiram (born ca 1787 in NC) and his family migrated to GA shortly after 1820. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Jonelle ELLIS Russell email: [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5UB.2ACI/2730.2 Message Board Post: Hello linda, I read what you have posted on Rootweb.com about your Ggrandfather Immanuel Jackson Dickson. Very interesting info. and will add to our files. Hope to recieve the rest of the story from you direct soon at my email address. I think we can find some clues to the other still missing children. Thanks, JD

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kimbro Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5UB.2ACI/2731.1 Message Board Post: There are no Kimbro burials listed for Broughton Hospital Cemetery in "Cemeteries of Burke County, Vol. IV", published by the Burke County Genealogical Society.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5UB.2ACI/2730.1.1 Message Board Post: Joy, Thanks for your reply, but I am not sure what if any connection there is. My Immanuel Jackson Dickson was born Oct. 13, 1871, most likely in the Spartanburg, S.C. area. His father was Charles William Dickson, b. 1808. Charles and his two brothers George and Joseph lived in Burke Co. Charles left there after the Civil War and moved to S.C. Charles, Geoge and Joseph were supposedly the only sons of John Dickson who lived his whole life in the Friedberg settlement outside what is now Winston-Salem. It is an interesting story about your Jackson Dickson, however I believe he is at best a cousin.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Settlemyer / Settlemeyer/ Settlemire / Dickson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5UB.2ACI/2730.1 Message Board Post: Hi Linda, This information is part of a book by Harry Wilson. He is a Settlemyer / Settlemire researcher. One of my Settlemire ancestors, Sarah M. Settlemire, married a 'Jackson Dixon' of Burke County, NC. If you read the link that I post, you may find some connection to your Immanuel Jackson Dickson and perhaps why this Dickson family might have left the area. The photo that I am linking to this post is 'thought' to be Jackson Dickson and his wife. Dickson and his wife are seated to the left in the photo. My great grandfather and great grandmother (Henry Clinton Settlemyer and Annie Lou Walker), are seated on the right. Good Luck! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~harry/233_cyrus_settlemire.htm