Good morning, Birt, although it will be afternoon before we finish wading through this. I have been going through books for the last hour and I think I will just send you what I find as I find it. There is a lot of information available on the children of both John and James but I will leave those alone until you tell me otherwise. A lot of the entries that I'm sending you will be as much to "disprove" as to "prove" so watch the dates, names and locations. Frequently I will give you only the fact that I have something and you must let me know if you don't have it and want it. I will not attempt to group the entries into which person it refers to. The number that I use at the beginning of each entry refers to a corresponding bibliography. Click on the URL below my name and you will find a list of the books that I have. For the dozens of books that aren't on the url I will give you that cite as needed. >From # 141 1. The Will of Mary Laroche, Charleston, dated 31 Aug. 1759 2. The Will of Thomas Laroche, Prince George's Parish, Winyaw, dated 22 Aug. 1743 (a mention of mother-in-law Mary Laroche). 3. A mention of John Larouche as witness to the Will of William Hutchison of Wadmalaw Island, Colleton County, dated 5 Apr. 1756. 4. A mention of sister-in-law Mary Laroche in the Will of John Ouldfield, Craven County, dated 28 Mar. 1751. 5. Additional listings for Laroche: Daniel, Elizabeth, James, Ann, and Susanna. 6. Listings for Horry: Ann, Daniel, Capt. Daniel, David, Jr., Elias, and Peter. >From # 140 1. The Will of John Laroche, Charles City and Port, merchant, dated Aug. 1723 (mentions all children as you have and wife, Mary). 2. The Will of James Laroche, Charles Town, dated 14 Dec. 1719. 3. A mention of John Laroche as witness to the Will of Ann Nash, mother of William Hutchison (above), dated 15 Feb. 1719. 4. A mention of John Laroche as witness to the Will of George Beadon, the elder, Charles Town, Berkeley County, cooper, dated 21 Dec. 1705. 5. The Will of Stephen Tauvron, Charles Town, Gent., dated 19 July 1729 (mentions grandsons Daniel and Thomas Laroche and granddaughter Mary Laroche) 6. A mention of Mary Laroche and Susanna Laroche as witnesses to the Will of Sarah Lewis, Charles Town, Berkeley County, dated 12 Apr. 1726. 7. Additional listings for Laroche: Anne, Christian, Daniel, Elizabeth, Judith, Susanna(h) and Thomas. 8. Listings for Horry: Babet, D. Daniel, Elias (including Will), Elie, John, Magdalen (listed by first name only in the Will of her father, Elias, Sr., 19 Sept. 1736.), Margaret, Martha, and Peter. 9. Listings for Tauvron: Etienne, Sarah, and Stephen (including Will). >From # 121 1. Will of John Laroche, Wadmalaw Island, St. John's Parish, Colleton County, planter, dated 26 Nov. 1757 (wife Mary). 2. A mention of nephews: John Laroche and James Laroch, Jr. (Capt.) in the Will of John Upham, Wadmalaw Island, dated 15 Oct. 1772. 3. A mention of John Laroche as witness to the Will of Christopher Jenkins, Edisto Island, planter, dated 20 Jan. 1774 (this is quite a Will). 4. Additional listings for Laroche: Abigail, Ann, Benjamin, James, , Jr., Capt. James, Jane, and Daniel. 5. Listings for Horry: E. Jr., Daniel (including Will), Capt. Daniel, Daniel Huger, David, Elias, Elias, Jr., Col. Elias, Mrs. Elias, Hugh, Jonah, John (including Will), Harriet, Mary (mentioned in the Will of Elizabeth Hollingsworth, St. David's Parish, Craven County, dated 15 Apr. 1772, as the mother of minor David Horry, nephew.), Peter, Sarah, and Thomas) >From # 122 1. The marriage of Mary Laroche to Alexander McGilvery, 11 March 1756, St. Philip's Parish. 2. The marriage of John Laroche and Mary Horrey, 28 August, 1714. St. Thomas and St. Denis Parish. 3. The marriage of Mary LeRoach to Joseph Butler, 23 December 1731. St. Philip's Parish. 4. The marriage of Eliz'th Mary Horrey to Charles Lewis, 8 August, 1713. St. Thomas and St. Denis Parish. 5. The marriage of Paul Trapier to Magdalen Horrey, 22 September, 1743. St. Thomas and St. Denis Parish. 6. dozens of additional Horry, Horrey and Laroche marriages >From # 125 note: these entries are not actual records of marriages but imply marriages because of other documents. The word "lived" means the date of that document. 1. Laroche (LaRoache), ______ ______ Tauvron (Tauvroon) [daughter of Estienne(Stephen) Tauvron of Charles Town], Vol. SP1[Records of the Secretary of the Province Will Book 1671-1727], pages 199-201, Lived 1729 2. Laroche, ______ ______ Tauvroon [daughter of Estienne(Stephen) Tauvroon of Charles Town] (Tauvron), Vol. G [Records of the Secretary of the Province, 1729-1731], pages 144-148, Lived 1729 [See also pages 181-183; H, page 26] 3. Laroche, ______ Ann Taurvoon, Vol. H [Records of the Secretary of the Province, 1730-1731], pages 472-473, Lived 1731 4. Laroche, ______ Elizabeth Taveroon, Vol H [Records of the Secretary of the Province, 1730-1731], pages 472-473, Lived 1731 >From # 155 1, The marriages of Horry: Daniel, Peter and Elias. 2. The marriage of James Laroche. >From # 180 The Huguenot Settlements (chapter) 1. page 45 ". . .Among the names of the first trustees of the new colony, appointed by George II, is that of John La Roche, a name for decades familiar in South Carolina among the French Protestants. Thomas La Roche appears on the list of councilmen . . ." The Rivalries After 1706 (chapter) 2. page 141 In a petition to the British government protesting the inflation of the currency". . . The first six signers of this petition were French Protestants: Isaac Mazyck, James St. Julien, James Dupoius Dor (Dupois d'or), Paul Douxsaint, Elias Foissin, and Henry Peronneau. They were evidently the leaders and called to their assistance four more of their nativity, namely Benjamin Godin, Isaac Maxyck, Jr., John La Roche, and Francis Le Brasseure. . ." >From # 195 EARLY PEE DEE SETTLERS, 2 volumes John M. Gregg, Heritage Books, Inc., Bowie, Maryland, 1993 LAROCHE, DANIEL # 728 Date in Pee Dee: 1734 Last Date: 1752 Location: PRINCE GEORGE PARISH Source(s): COOK, ROGERS, SMITH, H., Notes: WENT BANKRUPT AND FILED TO AVOID DEBTS. MAINTAINED PEW AT PARISH OF PRINCE FREDERICK WINYAW. LAROCHE, JOHN # 2545 Date in Pee Dee: 1730 Spouse: MARY HORRY Children: MARY, ANN Location: PRINCE GEORGE WINYAW PARISH Source(s): ROBERTS. LAROCHE, MARY #2751 Date in Pee Dee: 1737 Last Date: 1740 Spouse: ROBERT HERIOT Location: PRINCE GEORGE WINYAW PARISH Source(s): ROGERS, SMITH H. . Notes: DAUGHTER OF JOHN # 2545 LAROCHE, SUSANNA # 5384 Date in Pee Dee: 1743 Spouse: JOHN MAN Location: PRINCE GEORGE WINYAW PARISH Source(s): RBPPFW Notes: SHE WAS PROBABLY DAUGHTER OF JOHN LAROCHE, THOMAS # 729 Date in Pee Dee: 1734 Last Date: 1743 DIED Location: GEORGETOWN VICINITY Source(s): COOK, MOORE, SMITH, H., RBPPFW. Notes: BROTHER OF DANIEL, SUSANNA, ANN, ELIZABETH, MARY, FOSSAINE, AND JUDITH LEWIS. HORRY, ELIAS # 2752 Date in Pee Dee: 1707 Spouse: MARGARET LYNCH Children: THOMAS, ELIAS Location: ON SANTEE RIVER Source(s): ROGERS, CLEMENS, MOORE V.1. HORRY, ELIAS SR. # 2623 Date in Pee Dee: 1700 Last Date: 1736 DIED Spouse: MARGARET HUGER Children: DANIEL, ELIAS, JOHN. PETER, JOHN, MARGARET, HENRIETTA, MAGDALENE Origin: CHARENTON Location: SANTEE RIVER Source(s): ROGERS, MOORE V.1., BALDWIN. Notes: HUGUENOT IMMIGRANT BEFORE 1695. MARRIED 17 AUGUST 1704 HORRY, MAGDALENE # 2755 Date in Pee Dee: 1743 Spouse: PAUL TRAPIER Location: GEORGETOWN Source(s): ROGERS. Many more Horry listings. All part of this family. >From # 205 SOUTH CAROLINA WILLS. 1670-1853, OR LATER, Compiled from C.W.A., W.P.A. Microfilms, and Original Volumes Mary Bondurant Warren, Heritage Papers, 1981 The Index of Wills for James Laroach. James Laroch (3), John Laroch, Mary Laroch, James Laroche (2), John Laroche (2), Mary Laroche, Richard J. Laroche, Thomas Laroche, and John Laroches. Birt, let me know what else you need. Dee For details on sources used, refer to this link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: G-Dad <gdad1@darientel.net> To: <d7777@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> Cc: G-Dad <gdad1@darientel.net> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 10:56 AM Subject: possible look-up ?? Dear Dee: I have read some of your postings on the NC-SC list, and wonder if you could help me? I am rather tied down to my dialysis 3 times a week, and my only source of geneo info is the net. On a very limited retirement, I have to be very careful of my expenses, and am extremely thankful for people like you who can help ----------- I need two (at least !! ) marriages-- Two different John LaRoche's #1. and #2 #1 was Capt John LaRoche, immigrant, and brother of immigrant James LaRoche. According to his descendants, This John, of Charleston, married first Mary Tauvron, had four children and then married second, Mary Horry and had 3 more children. ::: " > .;; .; ;HTML created by GED2HTML v3.0 (2/2/97) on Tue Nov 16 10:57:35 1999. > Daniel HORRY BIRTH: 1660, Isle de Re, France DEATH: BEFORE 1696, South Carolina Transactions of Huguenot Society of SC > Father: Jean HORRY Mother: Madeline DUFRUE Family 1: Elizabeth GARNIER MARRIAGE: 10 AUG 1692, South Carolina Transactions of Huguenot Society of SC > Elizabeth Marye HORRY > Lidie HORRY > Mary HORRY > ***************************** ; ; .; ; .; ;HTML created by GED2HTML v3.0 (2/2/97) on Tue Nov 16> 10:57:36 1999. > Mary HORRY > BIRTH: BEFORE 1696, South Carolina > Father: Daniel HORRY Mother: Elizabeth GARNIER Family 1: John LAROCHE > MARRIAGE: 28 AUG 1714, ***St. Thomas and St. Denis Parish SC *** Transactions of Huguenot Society of SC [[ Following 4 are sons of John LaRoche and Mary Tauvron > Thomas LAROCHE > Daniel LAROCHE > Mary LAROCHE > Judith LAROCHE > Susannah LAROCHE [[dau. of John LaRoche and Mary Horry]] > Elizabeth LAROCHE [[ " " " ]] > Anne LAROCHE [[ " " " ]] #2 was John LaRoche, son of the immigrant James LaRoche. This John LaRoche was born before 1693, Lived on Wadmalaw Island, with his wife Mary. Died 1761. Will was probated Nov. 20 1761. The trustee of his estate was in Georgia; His children's names were James, Benjamin, Anne, and Abigail {{Lucy CHARPIE, HC64 Box 142-A, Swansea, SC 29160 USA 803-796-9523, l.charpie@att.net -- has John LaRoche1693-1759 married Aug 28?1714 to Lidie Marye Horry1694--1759 and children James, Benjamin, Anne, Abigail }} But when queried, did not seem to have proof that this Mary was Lidie Marye Horry}} {{Mary Coker said:: "Daniel Horry and Elizabeth Garnier had three daughters: Elizabeth Marye, Mary, and Liddie (I have seen that written as Liddie Marye) "....("...I have never seen the name Mary Horry in a will. .....") ----Mary Coker has Capt John LaRoche, b. bef 1693, d. 1723, married first to Mary Tauvron, and second on Aug 28-29 1714, to "Mary Horry" who moved to Georgetown after John's 1723 death. She took with her to Georgetown any of Mary Tauvron's children who were still living at home, probably all:: Daniel, Thomas, Mary, & Judith {all were under 21 } --and her own three children aged over 8,6,&2-- Susannah, b.1715; Elizabeth b.1717, d. aft 1759; & Anne, b. 16 Apr 1721, d.1Feb 1745. }} BUT Joe Rivers believes Capt John LaRoche (#one) d 1723 was married second to Mary, (not Horry), and that later researchers added the name Horry. BUT, John Tindal says ::: " ...I believe my line is through John LaRoche (#two) II (1690-1760) who married Mary (her last name not recovered). However, I'm afraid I have not been able to convince some of my cousins about this" This one has been in controversy a long time. I think the solution is going to have to be found in marriage records for the two John LaRoches, Lidie Marye Horry, Mary Horry, and as an additional possibility, -- <Mary Magdalene Horry Birth: 1715 Craven, South Carolina Christening:Death: 29 Aug 1767 Prince George Parish, Horry County, South Carolina.> I hope you might have time to see if any of these marriage records exist. Thank you for any help you can give me. The Rev. W. Birt Sams,(retired) Box 64 Meridian GA 31319 P.S. Please let me know if there is any expense involved here, and let me know what it might be.