I have seen on the web that Catherine Fresne was the daughter of Alexandre du Fresne and Catherine de Torcy. However, I have not seen the proof. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Thompson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose > Hi Ray, > I have everything that you mentioned (except the cemetery list) but I have > Jacques mother's name as FRESNE. > I have the following, let me know what you need. > > 1. The Will of ANTHONIE DE BOURDEAUX, 1724, Charleston (# 140) > 2. A number of very early (pre 1700) warrants for this family (also see > spelling De Baurdeaux and DuBourdeaux)(#499) > This will get us no where fast. I have this family in, probably, 100 plus > books and I would be spinning my wheels since I have no idea what you > have. > I need to know exactly what you are looking for. The easiest way is for > you > to send me a list a exact questions. > Dee > For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for lookups, > refer > to this link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose > > >> Dee, I mainly was interested in Enoch Bordeaux who was captured at Fort >> Fisher during the Civil war and taken to Elmira NY as a POW. He is > supposed >> to be buried in Woodlawn National cemetery there but I cannot find him on >> the list. Someone had told me that he was listed differently with a last >> name that sounded something like Bordeaux. Some of the info I have also >> spells Bordeaux as Bourdeaux. Enoch was my GGGrandfather. Tracing his >> line back to my 10th Greatfather, Jacques de Bordeaux who came from >> Grenoble, France to Charleston in 1680. Jacques parents were Evremond >> de >> Bordeauxand Catherine Fresene, also of Grenoble. Evremond was Son of > Pierre >> de Bordeaux. Pierre was the son of Francis Purcell of Bordeaux. Francis > was >> a deseendent of Sir Godefroy de Bourdieu who fought in the third crusade > in >> the year 1187 and was knighted by King Phillip II of France. Any thing >> you >> can tell me about this line and especially aboout how Enoch Bordeaux is >> listed in the Woodlawn registry will be greatly appreciated. Thanks > again, >> Woodrow Smith-- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dee Thompson" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose >> >> >> > Hi Ray, >> > Absolutely! But are you saying BOUREAU (1680s) or BOURDEAUX? If >> BOURDEAUX >> > they are always listed >> > under DE BOURDEAUX (1690s). Who are you looking for? >> > Dee. >> > >> > For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for lookups, >> refer >> > to this link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 1:14 PM >> > Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose >> > >> > >> > > Dee, were there any Boreaux (Bourdeaux) in this movement to the US. >> This >> > > seems about the same time that my Bordauxs came to the >> > > US. ---- >> > > Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Dee Thompson" <[email protected]> >> > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 6:19 PM >> > > Subject: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose >> > > >> > > >> > > > Ray, >> > > > >From "The First Settlers of South Carolina, 1670-1700" >> > > > GILLARD, CLEREMONDE >> > > > See Gaillard, Pierre >> > > > >> > > > GAILLARD, ELIZABETH >> > > > See Gaillard, Pierre >> > > > >> > > > GAILLARD, ESTER >> > > > See Gaillard, Joachim >> > > > >> > > > GAILLARD, JEAN >> > > > See Gaillard, Joachim >> > > > >> > > > GAILLARD, JOACHIM >> > > > Arrived before 1690, Son of Jean Gaillard and Marie Gaillard at >> > > Montpellier >> > > > in Languedoc. Ester Gaillard, his wife, daughter of Andre Paparel > and >> > > > Caterine Paparel of Bouin in Forest. Jean and Pierre Gaillard, >> > > > their >> > > > children. >> > > > >> > > > GAILLARD, JOHN >> > > > Arrived before 24 September 1695 >> > > > >> > > > GAILLARD, MAGDELAN >> > > > Arrived in Carolina before 19 March 1694, See also De Bourdeaux, >> > Jacques. >> > > > >> > > > GAILLARD, PIERRE >> > > > Arrived before 19 March 1694. Born in Cherneaux in Poitou, son of >> Pierre >> > > > Gaillard and Jacquete Jolain. Elizabeth Leclair, his wife. > Clermonde, >> > > their >> > > > daughter, born in Carolina. Elizabeth and Marthe Melet, daughters >> > > > of >> > Jean >> > > > Melet and the said Elizabeth Leclair. >> > > > >> > > > GAILLARD, PIERRE (younger) >> > > > See Gaillard, Joachim >> > > > >> > > > PRIOLEAU, ELIAS (French Minister) >> > > > Arrived in Carolina before 1690. A native of Xaintonge, France, he > was >> > the >> > > > son of Samuel Prioleau and Jeanne Merlat. His wife was Jeanne >> Burgeand, >> > > born >> > > > in L'isle ge Re. Their daughter Jeanne was born in St. Jean > D'Angely; >> > > their >> > > > children, Samuel, Marie, and Ester, were born in Carolina. >> > > > >> > > > Cites listed. for all. Let me know if you want them. >> > > > >> > > > >From "Historic Ramblin's Through Berkeley" >> > > > The Ravenel List of persons desiring naturalization (1696): >> > > > Total 59 >> > > > Pierre Gaillard >> > > > Joachim Gaillard >> > > > >> > > > >From "South Carolina Begins: The Records of a Proprietary Colony, >> > > 1663-1721" >> > > > [I am only listing the 1700 or before Wills] >> > > > Gaillard, Susannah, 1700-1701 >> > > > >> > > > >From "Abstracts of Records of Secretary of the Province South >> Carolina >> > > > 1692-1721" >> > > > paraphrased: grant of 400 acres bounding on N on Santee River, 29 > Mar. >> > > 1700 >> > > > by Hon. Lords Props., to Jean Gaillard . >> > > > >> > > > >From "Warrants of Lands in South Carolina 1672-1711" >> > > > In part: "Isaac Caillabeuf hath made it apeare that he hath at >> > his:proper >> > > > cost & charge Imported into ye Province of Carolina Six persons >> > > > aged >> > above >> > > > Sixteen yeares to plant & Inhabit in ye said Province named Isaac >> > > Caillabeuf >> > > > [,] Rachel Caillabeuf [,] Peter Gallard & Magdelan Gallard [,] Mary >> > > Ozembert >> > > > [,] James Benes ye names of all wch persons were registred in the >> > Secrtys >> > > > ofice wthin fourteen dayes after theire Respective arrivall in ye >> > province >> > > > aforesaid . . This is a "headright" document with land granted 19 >> March >> > > > 1693/4. >> > > > >> > > > Peter Galiard had a warrant for five hundred acres of Land Dated ye >> 26th >> > > of >> > > > october 1704. >> > > > Elisha Prioleau had a warrant for five hundred acres of Land Dated > ye >> > 8th >> > > > day of 9br 1704 >> > > > >> > > > EARLIEST MENTION OF GAILLARD >> > > > >From "Warrants for Lands in South CArolina 1672-1679" >> > > > Carrolina Toy are forth with to admeasure and lay out for Richard >> > > Gilliard >> > > > one of ye free Persons of this Province one hundred accres of land > in >> > some >> > > > place not yett laid out or marked to bee laid out for aney other >> Person >> > or >> > > > use, and if same happen uppon aney Navigable River or River Capable > of >> > > being >> > > > made Navigable you are to allow only ye fifth Pte of depthe by ye >> watter >> > > > side and a Certificate fully speciefieing ye situation and bounds >> > thereof >> > > > you are to return to us with all Convenient Speede dated this >> > > > second >> day >> > > of >> > > > November 1678 ------ >> > > > To Capt. Maurice Mathews Richard Conant Joseph West >> > > > Sureyr. Generall Andw. Percevall John >> > Godfrey >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Dee >> > > > For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for > lookups, >> > > refer >> > > > to this link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: Kinta Delamain <[email protected]> >> > > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:37 AM >> > > > Subject: RE: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hi Ray, >> > > > > I checked out some of my Huguenot info and found - >> > > > > Alcimus GAILLARD, b. 1716, d.1754 as the second husband of >> Elizabeth >> > > dau >> > > > > of John GENDRON and Elizabeth MAZYCK. >> > > > > >> > > > > And from John Coming BALL and wife Catherine GENDRON - there is >> > > > > a >> > son, >> > > > > Elias, b. 11 May 1744-- ( he was of Wambaw Plantation - and a >> Tory) >> > > that >> > > > > marries a Catherine, dau of Theodore GAILLARD and Eleanor CORDES >> > > > > >> > > > > Don't have any info on from whence they came etc - but it seems > the >> > > name >> > > > > was around early 1700s -- >> > > > > >> > > > > Kinta >> > > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > From: Ray Timmons [mailto:[email protected]] >> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 12:57 PM >> > > > > To: [email protected] >> > > > > Subject: Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose >> > > > > >> > > > > Thanks for pointing out the Gourdin name, that needs >> > > > > research. >> > > > > >> > > > > Neither Jacob Gaillard, his father Fransois, nor his family >> > > > > appear in the list that was denized with Rev. Prioleau. >> > > > > Nor can I find this Gaillard family in early Carolina. There >> > > > > may have been children not listed that made it to Carolina. >> > > > > Does anybody know if it is written anywhere that there >> > > > > was a Gaillard from Pons? >> > > > > >> > > > > Louis DuBose is listed as a Godfather, so we don't know if >> > > > > he was a member or not. But anyway, he is not in the list >> > > > > that was denized with Rev. Prioleau (there are several DuBose/ >> > > > > DuBois entries in other years). I don't know of any >> > > > > evidence of a Louis DuBose from Pons or his descendants in >> > > > > Carolina. I have seen the DuBose name in many registers in >> > > > > different areas of France. I believe that the Carolina >> > > > > Louis DuBose was from the Normandy area (but could have >> > > > > visited Pons during the Baptism of his Grandchild). DuBose >> > > > > folks please let me know if I am wrong! >> > > > > >> > > > > Since Hirsch says it was a transplantation of the Pons >> > > > > Church, I expected to find many definite names. Being >> > > > > sure of even one has been difficult. >> > > > > >> > > > > But there is no church roll, so we have the problem of >> > > > > those that were members, but did not have births, marriages >> > > > > or deaths during the time period of surviving registers. >> > > > > >> > > > > Ray >> > > > > >> > > > > katherine t fowler wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > I found Gourdin, Gaillard and DuBois. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Kit F. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Timmons" <[email protected]> >> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:48 PM >> > > > > > Subject: [Huguenot] Stories that are repeated once they are in >> > Print - >> > > > > Pons >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> One such story seems to have been written by Arthur Henry > Hirsch >> in >> > > > > >> "The Huguenots of Colonial South Carolina". It may be based >> > > > > >> on > a >> > > > > >> the writings of Alexandre Crottet (or a misread of his > writings). >> > > > > >> At any rate, Hirsch says - >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >>> "The Charles Town French Church was an extension, or perhaps >> > better, >> > > > > >>> a transferred reestablishment of the French Protestant Church > of >> > > > > >>> Pons, France, whose pastor was Elias Prioleau. He, with his >> > > > > >>> congregation, in April, 1687(sic), witnessed the destruction > of >> > > > > >>> their church building in that place by their Catholic >> > > > > >>> enemies. >> > While >> > > > > >>> it was being demolished Mr. Prioleau gathered his >> > > > > >>> congregation >> > about >> > > > > >>> him, and after he had addresed them regarding their plans for >> the >> > > > > >>> future, they determined to embark for England. How many > followed >> > him >> > > > > >>> is not known, but the names of a number of French families >> > denizened >> > > > > >>> the same day that Mr. Prioleau and his family were denizened > in >> > > > > >>> England, names that in later years are familiar in Carolina, >> > > indicate >> > > > > >>> reasons for the supposition that at least a number followed >> their >> > > > > >>> spiritual leader to England and subsequently to South > Carolina." >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> It may be true that many members of the Pons Church followed >> their >> > > > > >> pastor to England. It is also true that many families > denizened >> in >> > > > > >> England on the same day as Rev. Prioleau did follow him to >> > Carolina. >> > > > > >> The list is published in The Huguenot Society of London, >> > > QuartoSeries, >> > > > > >> Volume XVIII, pp 182-192. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> However, I have yet to find a person in the denization list > that >> > > > > >> was listed in the existing Pons registers (other than Rev. >> Prioleau >> > > > > >> and his family). Neither have I found a name in early >> > > > > >> Carolina >> > that >> > > > > >> appears in the Pons registers. I keep hoping to find one. > What >> I >> > > > > >> have from the Pons registers is at - >> > > > > >> http://199.4.147.11/gen/pons/pons-sort.txt >> > > > > >> The complete excel spreadsheet is at - >> > > > > >> http://199.4.147.11/gen/pons/releve_pons.xls >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> There are families in Carolina that are supposed to be from > Pons, >> > > > > >> but I have not found them in any Pons documentation yet. If >> > somebody >> > > > > >> finds a name in the lists above, please let me know! >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> Rev. Prioleau was well known in France with relatives that >> > > > > >> preached elsewhere in France as well as relatives in other >> > > > > >> Huguenot churches. There were also synod's held in Pons. So > most >> > > > > >> of those who followed him to Carolina knew him well, but do >> > > > > >> not >> > > > > >> seem to have been members of his church. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> The Pons story is included in a book that will be published >> around >> > > > > >> October this year by USC Press. "From New Babylon to Eden: >> > > > > >> The >> > > > > >> Huguenots and Their Migration to Colonial South Carolina" by >> > > > > >> Van Ruymbeke, Bertrand. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> Ray >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> ==== Huguenot Mailing List ==== >> > > > > >> To leave the list, send a new email to >> > > [email protected] >> > > > > >> and type UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject line and text area >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> (if you get the digest, replace -L with -D) >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ==== Huguenot Mailing List ==== >> > > > > > If you need assistance contact the list admin at >> > > > > > [email protected] >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > ==== Huguenot Mailing List ==== >> > > > > To leave the list, send a new email to >> [email protected] >> > > and >> > > > > type UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject line and text area >> > > > > >> > > > > (if you get the digest, replace -L with -D) >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > ==== Huguenot Mailing List ==== >> > > > > To leave the list, send a new email to >> [email protected] >> > > and >> > > > type UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject line and text area >> > > > > >> > > > > (if you get the digest, replace -L with -D) >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >