Enoch is recorded in the Fort Fisher records as Enoch Bordeaux. However, in the New York records, he is recorded as Enoch Mindex and Enoch Murdeaux. There is also a conflict on the date of death. It is either February 10th, 1865 or April 10th, 1865. Jason Bordeaux ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2005 8:17 pm Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose > Dee, I mainly was interested in Enoch Bordeaux who was captured > at Fort > Fisher during the Civil war and taken to Elmira NY as a POW. He > is supposed > to be buried in Woodlawn National cemetery there but I cannot find > him on > the list. Someone had told me that he was listed differently with > a last > name that sounded something like Bordeaux. Some of the info I > have also > spells Bordeaux as Bourdeaux. Enoch was my GGGrandfather. > Tracing his > line back to my 10th Greatfather, Jacques de Bordeaux who came from > Grenoble, France to Charleston in 1680. Jacques parents were > Evremond de > Bordeauxand Catherine Fresene, also of Grenoble. Evremond was Son > of Pierre > de Bordeaux. Pierre was the son of Francis Purcell of Bordeaux. > Francis was > a deseendent of Sir Godefroy de Bourdieu who fought in the third > crusade in > the year 1187 and was knighted by King Phillip II of France. Any > thing you > can tell me about this line and especially aboout how Enoch > Bordeaux is > listed in the Woodlawn registry will be greatly appreciated. > Thanks again, > Woodrow Smith-- Original Message ----- > From: "Dee Thompson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:47 PM > Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose > > > > Hi Ray, > > Absolutely! But are you saying BOUREAU (1680s) or BOURDEAUX? If > BOURDEAUX > > they are always listed > > under DE BOURDEAUX (1690s). Who are you looking for? > > Dee. > > > > For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for > lookups,refer > > to this link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 1:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? > Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose> > > > > > Dee, were there any Boreaux (Bourdeaux) in this movement to > the US. > This > > > seems about the same time that my Bordauxs came to the > US. ---- > > > Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dee Thompson" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 6:19 PM > > > Subject: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose > > > > > > > > > > Ray, > > > > >From "The First Settlers of South Carolina, 1670-1700" > > > > GILLARD, CLEREMONDE > > > > See Gaillard, Pierre > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, ELIZABETH > > > > See Gaillard, Pierre > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, ESTER > > > > See Gaillard, Joachim > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, JEAN > > > > See Gaillard, Joachim > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, JOACHIM > > > > Arrived before 1690, Son of Jean Gaillard and Marie Gaillard at > > > Montpellier > > > > in Languedoc. Ester Gaillard, his wife, daughter of Andre > Paparel and > > > > Caterine Paparel of Bouin in Forest. Jean and Pierre > Gaillard, their > > > > children. > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, JOHN > > > > Arrived before 24 September 1695 > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, MAGDELAN > > > > Arrived in Carolina before 19 March 1694, See also De Bourdeaux, > > Jacques. > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, PIERRE > > > > Arrived before 19 March 1694. Born in Cherneaux in Poitou, > son of > Pierre > > > > Gaillard and Jacquete Jolain. Elizabeth Leclair, his wife. > Clermonde,> > their > > > > daughter, born in Carolina. Elizabeth and Marthe Melet, > daughters of > > Jean > > > > Melet and the said Elizabeth Leclair. > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, PIERRE (younger) > > > > See Gaillard, Joachim > > > > > > > > PRIOLEAU, ELIAS (French Minister) > > > > Arrived in Carolina before 1690. A native of Xaintonge, > France, he was > > the > > > > son of Samuel Prioleau and Jeanne Merlat. His wife was Jeanne > Burgeand, > > > born > > > > in L'isle ge Re. Their daughter Jeanne was born in St. Jean > D'Angely;> > their > > > > children, Samuel, Marie, and Ester, were born in Carolina. > > > > > > > > Cites listed. for all. Let me know if you want them. > > > > > > > > >From "Historic Ramblin's Through Berkeley" > > > > The Ravenel List of persons desiring naturalization (1696): > > > > Total 59 > > > > Pierre Gaillard > > > > Joachim Gaillard > > > > > > > > >From "South Carolina Begins: The Records of a Proprietary > Colony,> > 1663-1721" > > > > [I am only listing the 1700 or before Wills] > > > > Gaillard, Susannah, 1700-1701 > > > > > > > > >From "Abstracts of Records of Secretary of the Province South > Carolina > > > > 1692-1721" > > > > paraphrased: grant of 400 acres bounding on N on Santee > River, 29 Mar. > > > 1700 > > > > by Hon. Lords Props., to Jean Gaillard . > > > > > > > > >From "Warrants of Lands in South Carolina 1672-1711" > > > > In part: "Isaac Caillabeuf hath made it apeare that he hath at > > his:proper > > > > cost & charge Imported into ye Province of Carolina Six > persons aged > > above > > > > Sixteen yeares to plant & Inhabit in ye said Province named > Isaac> > Caillabeuf > > > > [,] Rachel Caillabeuf [,] Peter Gallard & Magdelan Gallard > [,] Mary > > > Ozembert > > > > [,] James Benes ye names of all wch persons were registred > in the > > Secrtys > > > > ofice wthin fourteen dayes after theire Respective arrivall > in ye > > province > > > > aforesaid . . This is a "headright" document with land > granted 19 > March > > > > 1693/4. > > > > > > > > Peter Galiard had a warrant for five hundred acres of Land > Dated ye > 26th > > > of > > > > october 1704. > > > > Elisha Prioleau had a warrant for five hundred acres of Land > Dated ye > > 8th > > > > day of 9br 1704 > > > > > > > > EARLIEST MENTION OF GAILLARD > > > > >From "Warrants for Lands in South CArolina 1672-1679" > > > > Carrolina Toy are forth with to admeasure and lay out for > Richard> > Gilliard > > > > one of ye free Persons of this Province one hundred accres > of land in > > some > > > > place not yett laid out or marked to bee laid out for aney other > Person > > or > > > > use, and if same happen uppon aney Navigable River or River > Capable of > > > being > > > > made Navigable you are to allow only ye fifth Pte of depthe > by ye > watter > > > > side and a Certificate fully speciefieing ye situation and > bounds> thereof > > > > you are to return to us with all Convenient Speede dated > this second > day > > > of > > > > November 1678 ------ > > > > To Capt. Maurice Mathews Richard Conant Joseph West > > > > Sureyr. Generall Andw. Percevall > John > > Godfrey > > > > > > > > > > > > Dee > > > > For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used > for lookups, > > > refer > > > > to this link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Kinta Delamain <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:37 AM > > > > Subject: RE: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ray, > > > > > I checked out some of my Huguenot info and found - > > > > > Alcimus GAILLARD, b. 1716, d.1754 as the second husband of > Elizabeth > > > dau > > > > > of John GENDRON and Elizabeth MAZYCK. > > > > > > > > > > And from John Coming BALL and wife Catherine GENDRON - > there is a > > son, > > > > > Elias, b. 11 May 1744-- ( he was of Wambaw Plantation - > and a > Tory) > > > that > > > > > marries a Catherine, dau of Theodore GAILLARD and Eleanor > CORDES> > > > > > > > > Don't have any info on from whence they came etc - but it > seems the > > > name > > > > > was around early 1700s -- > > > > > > > > > > Kinta > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Ray Timmons [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 12:57 PM > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Subject: Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for pointing out the Gourdin name, that needs > > > > > research. > > > > > > > > > > Neither Jacob Gaillard, his father Fransois, nor his family > > > > > appear in the list that was denized with Rev. Prioleau. > > > > > Nor can I find this Gaillard family in early Carolina. There > > > > > may have been children not listed that made it to Carolina. > > > > > Does anybody know if it is written anywhere that there > > > > > was a Gaillard from Pons? > > > > > > > > > > Louis DuBose is listed as a Godfather, so we don't know if > > > > > he was a member or not. But anyway, he is not in the list > > > > > that was denized with Rev. Prioleau (there are several DuBose/ > > > > > DuBois entries in other years). I don't know of any > > > > > evidence of a Louis DuBose from Pons or his descendants in > > > > > Carolina. I have seen the DuBose name in many registers in > > > > > different areas of France. I believe that the Carolina > > > > > Louis DuBose was from the Normandy area (but could have > > > > > visited Pons during the Baptism of his Grandchild). DuBose > > > > > folks please let me know if I am wrong! > > > > > > > > > > Since Hirsch says it was a transplantation of the Pons > > > > > Church, I expected to find many definite names. Being > > > > > sure of even one has been difficult. > > > > > > > > > > But there is no church roll, so we have the problem of > > > > > those that were members, but did not have births, marriages > > > > > or deaths during the time period of surviving registers. > > > > > > > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > katherine t fowler wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I found Gourdin, Gaillard and DuBois. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kit F. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Timmons" > <[email protected]>> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:48 PM > > > > > > Subject: [Huguenot] Stories that are repeated once they > are in > > Print - > > > > > Pons > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> One such story seems to have been written by Arthur > Henry Hirsch > in > > > > > >> "The Huguenots of Colonial South Carolina". It may be > based on a > > > > > >> the writings of Alexandre Crottet (or a misread of his > writings).> > > > >> At any rate, Hirsch says - > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> "The Charles Town French Church was an extension, or > perhaps> better, > > > > > >>> a transferred reestablishment of the French Protestant > Church of > > > > > >>> Pons, France, whose pastor was Elias Prioleau. He, > with his > > > > > >>> congregation, in April, 1687(sic), witnessed the > destruction of > > > > > >>> their church building in that place by their Catholic > enemies.> While > > > > > >>> it was being demolished Mr. Prioleau gathered his > congregation> about > > > > > >>> him, and after he had addresed them regarding their > plans for > the > > > > > >>> future, they determined to embark for England. How > many followed > > him > > > > > >>> is not known, but the names of a number of French families > > denizened > > > > > >>> the same day that Mr. Prioleau and his family were > denizened in > > > > > >>> England, names that in later years are familiar in > Carolina,> > indicate > > > > > >>> reasons for the supposition that at least a number > followedtheir > > > > > >>> spiritual leader to England and subsequently to South > Carolina."> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> It may be true that many members of the Pons Church > followedtheir > > > > > >> pastor to England. It is also true that many families > denizenedin > > > > > >> England on the same day as Rev. Prioleau did follow him to > > Carolina. > > > > > >> The list is published in The Huguenot Society of London, > > > QuartoSeries, > > > > > >> Volume XVIII, pp 182-192. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> However, I have yet to find a person in the denization > list that > > > > > >> was listed in the existing Pons registers (other than Rev. > Prioleau > > > > > >> and his family). Neither have I found a name in early > Carolina> that > > > > > >> appears in the Pons registers. I keep hoping to find > one. What > I > > > > > >> have from the Pons registers is at - > > > > > >> http://199.4.147.11/gen/pons/pons-sort.txt > > > > > >> The complete excel spreadsheet is at - > > > > > >> http://199.4.147.11/gen/pons/releve_pons.xls > > > > > >> > > > > > >> There are families in Carolina that are supposed to be > from Pons, > > > > > >> but I have not found them in any Pons documentation > yet. If > > somebody > > > > > >> finds a name in the lists above, please let me know! > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Rev. Prioleau was well known in France with relatives that > > > > > >> preached elsewhere in France as well as relatives in other > > > > > >> Huguenot churches. There were also synod's held in > Pons. So most > > > > > >> of those who followed him to Carolina knew him well, > but do not > > > > > >> seem to have been members of his church. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The Pons story is included in a book that will be published > around > > > > > >> October this year by USC Press. "From New Babylon to > Eden: The > > > > > >> Huguenots and Their Migration to Colonial South > Carolina" by > > > > > >> Van Ruymbeke, Bertrand. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Ray > > > > > >>

Jason, thanks for the info. How can I access a web sight that will have these listings in NY records? Woodrow ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Enoch Bordeaux > Enoch is recorded in the Fort Fisher records as Enoch Bordeaux. > However, in the New York records, he is recorded as Enoch Mindex and > Enoch Murdeaux. There is also a conflict on the date of death. It is > either February 10th, 1865 or April 10th, 1865. > > Jason Bordeaux > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2005 8:17 pm > Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose > > > Dee, I mainly was interested in Enoch Bordeaux who was captured > > at Fort > > Fisher during the Civil war and taken to Elmira NY as a POW. He > > is supposed > > to be buried in Woodlawn National cemetery there but I cannot find > > him on > > the list. Someone had told me that he was listed differently with > > a last > > name that sounded something like Bordeaux. Some of the info I > > have also > > spells Bordeaux as Bourdeaux. Enoch was my GGGrandfather. > > Tracing his > > line back to my 10th Greatfather, Jacques de Bordeaux who came from > > Grenoble, France to Charleston in 1680. Jacques parents were > > Evremond de > > Bordeauxand Catherine Fresene, also of Grenoble. Evremond was Son > > of Pierre > > de Bordeaux. Pierre was the son of Francis Purcell of Bordeaux. > > Francis was > > a deseendent of Sir Godefroy de Bourdieu who fought in the third > > crusade in > > the year 1187 and was knighted by King Phillip II of France. Any > > thing you > > can tell me about this line and especially aboout how Enoch > > Bordeaux is > > listed in the Woodlawn registry will be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks again, > > Woodrow Smith-- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dee Thompson" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose > > > > > > > Hi Ray, > > > Absolutely! But are you saying BOUREAU (1680s) or BOURDEAUX? If > > BOURDEAUX > > > they are always listed > > > under DE BOURDEAUX (1690s). Who are you looking for? > > > Dee. > > > > > > For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for > > lookups,refer > > > to this link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 1:14 PM > > > Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? > > Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose> > > > > > > > Dee, were there any Boreaux (Bourdeaux) in this movement to > > the US. > > This > > > > seems about the same time that my Bordauxs came to the > > US. ---- > > > > Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Dee Thompson" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 6:19 PM > > > > Subject: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ray, > > > > > >From "The First Settlers of South Carolina, 1670-1700" > > > > > GILLARD, CLEREMONDE > > > > > See Gaillard, Pierre > > > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, ELIZABETH > > > > > See Gaillard, Pierre > > > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, ESTER > > > > > See Gaillard, Joachim > > > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, JEAN > > > > > See Gaillard, Joachim > > > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, JOACHIM > > > > > Arrived before 1690, Son of Jean Gaillard and Marie Gaillard at > > > > Montpellier > > > > > in Languedoc. Ester Gaillard, his wife, daughter of Andre > > Paparel and > > > > > Caterine Paparel of Bouin in Forest. Jean and Pierre > > Gaillard, their > > > > > children. > > > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, JOHN > > > > > Arrived before 24 September 1695 > > > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, MAGDELAN > > > > > Arrived in Carolina before 19 March 1694, See also De Bourdeaux, > > > Jacques. > > > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, PIERRE > > > > > Arrived before 19 March 1694. Born in Cherneaux in Poitou, > > son of > > Pierre > > > > > Gaillard and Jacquete Jolain. Elizabeth Leclair, his wife. > > Clermonde,> > their > > > > > daughter, born in Carolina. Elizabeth and Marthe Melet, > > daughters of > > > Jean > > > > > Melet and the said Elizabeth Leclair. > > > > > > > > > > GAILLARD, PIERRE (younger) > > > > > See Gaillard, Joachim > > > > > > > > > > PRIOLEAU, ELIAS (French Minister) > > > > > Arrived in Carolina before 1690. A native of Xaintonge, > > France, he was > > > the > > > > > son of Samuel Prioleau and Jeanne Merlat. His wife was Jeanne > > Burgeand, > > > > born > > > > > in L'isle ge Re. Their daughter Jeanne was born in St. Jean > > D'Angely;> > their > > > > > children, Samuel, Marie, and Ester, were born in Carolina. > > > > > > > > > > Cites listed. for all. Let me know if you want them. > > > > > > > > > > >From "Historic Ramblin's Through Berkeley" > > > > > The Ravenel List of persons desiring naturalization (1696): > > > > > Total 59 > > > > > Pierre Gaillard > > > > > Joachim Gaillard > > > > > > > > > > >From "South Carolina Begins: The Records of a Proprietary > > Colony,> > 1663-1721" > > > > > [I am only listing the 1700 or before Wills] > > > > > Gaillard, Susannah, 1700-1701 > > > > > > > > > > >From "Abstracts of Records of Secretary of the Province South > > Carolina > > > > > 1692-1721" > > > > > paraphrased: grant of 400 acres bounding on N on Santee > > River, 29 Mar. > > > > 1700 > > > > > by Hon. Lords Props., to Jean Gaillard . > > > > > > > > > > >From "Warrants of Lands in South Carolina 1672-1711" > > > > > In part: "Isaac Caillabeuf hath made it apeare that he hath at > > > his:proper > > > > > cost & charge Imported into ye Province of Carolina Six > > persons aged > > > above > > > > > Sixteen yeares to plant & Inhabit in ye said Province named > > Isaac> > Caillabeuf > > > > > [,] Rachel Caillabeuf [,] Peter Gallard & Magdelan Gallard > > [,] Mary > > > > Ozembert > > > > > [,] James Benes ye names of all wch persons were registred > > in the > > > Secrtys > > > > > ofice wthin fourteen dayes after theire Respective arrivall > > in ye > > > province > > > > > aforesaid . . This is a "headright" document with land > > granted 19 > > March > > > > > 1693/4. > > > > > > > > > > Peter Galiard had a warrant for five hundred acres of Land > > Dated ye > > 26th > > > > of > > > > > october 1704. > > > > > Elisha Prioleau had a warrant for five hundred acres of Land > > Dated ye > > > 8th > > > > > day of 9br 1704 > > > > > > > > > > EARLIEST MENTION OF GAILLARD > > > > > >From "Warrants for Lands in South CArolina 1672-1679" > > > > > Carrolina Toy are forth with to admeasure and lay out for > > Richard> > Gilliard > > > > > one of ye free Persons of this Province one hundred accres > > of land in > > > some > > > > > place not yett laid out or marked to bee laid out for aney other > > Person > > > or > > > > > use, and if same happen uppon aney Navigable River or River > > Capable of > > > > being > > > > > made Navigable you are to allow only ye fifth Pte of depthe > > by ye > > watter > > > > > side and a Certificate fully speciefieing ye situation and > > bounds> thereof > > > > > you are to return to us with all Convenient Speede dated > > this second > > day > > > > of > > > > > November 1678 ------ > > > > > To Capt. Maurice Mathews Richard Conant Joseph West > > > > > Sureyr. Generall Andw. Percevall > > John > > > Godfrey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dee > > > > > For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used > > for lookups, > > > > refer > > > > > to this link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Kinta Delamain <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:37 AM > > > > > Subject: RE: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ray, > > > > > > I checked out some of my Huguenot info and found - > > > > > > Alcimus GAILLARD, b. 1716, d.1754 as the second husband of > > Elizabeth > > > > dau > > > > > > of John GENDRON and Elizabeth MAZYCK. > > > > > > > > > > > > And from John Coming BALL and wife Catherine GENDRON - > > there is a > > > son, > > > > > > Elias, b. 11 May 1744-- ( he was of Wambaw Plantation - > > and a > > Tory) > > > > that > > > > > > marries a Catherine, dau of Theodore GAILLARD and Eleanor > > CORDES> > > > > > > > > > Don't have any info on from whence they came etc - but it > > seems the > > > > name > > > > > > was around early 1700s -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Kinta > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Ray Timmons [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 12:57 PM > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for pointing out the Gourdin name, that needs > > > > > > research. > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither Jacob Gaillard, his father Fransois, nor his family > > > > > > appear in the list that was denized with Rev. Prioleau. > > > > > > Nor can I find this Gaillard family in early Carolina. There > > > > > > may have been children not listed that made it to Carolina. > > > > > > Does anybody know if it is written anywhere that there > > > > > > was a Gaillard from Pons? > > > > > > > > > > > > Louis DuBose is listed as a Godfather, so we don't know if > > > > > > he was a member or not. But anyway, he is not in the list > > > > > > that was denized with Rev. Prioleau (there are several DuBose/ > > > > > > DuBois entries in other years). I don't know of any > > > > > > evidence of a Louis DuBose from Pons or his descendants in > > > > > > Carolina. I have seen the DuBose name in many registers in > > > > > > different areas of France. I believe that the Carolina > > > > > > Louis DuBose was from the Normandy area (but could have > > > > > > visited Pons during the Baptism of his Grandchild). DuBose > > > > > > folks please let me know if I am wrong! > > > > > > > > > > > > Since Hirsch says it was a transplantation of the Pons > > > > > > Church, I expected to find many definite names. Being > > > > > > sure of even one has been difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > But there is no church roll, so we have the problem of > > > > > > those that were members, but did not have births, marriages > > > > > > or deaths during the time period of surviving registers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > katherine t fowler wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found Gourdin, Gaillard and DuBois. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kit F. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Timmons" > > <[email protected]>> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:48 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [Huguenot] Stories that are repeated once they > > are in > > > Print - > > > > > > Pons > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> One such story seems to have been written by Arthur > > Henry Hirsch > > in > > > > > > >> "The Huguenots of Colonial South Carolina". It may be > > based on a > > > > > > >> the writings of Alexandre Crottet (or a misread of his > > writings).> > > > >> At any rate, Hirsch says - > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> "The Charles Town French Church was an extension, or > > perhaps> better, > > > > > > >>> a transferred reestablishment of the French Protestant > > Church of > > > > > > >>> Pons, France, whose pastor was Elias Prioleau. He, > > with his > > > > > > >>> congregation, in April, 1687(sic), witnessed the > > destruction of > > > > > > >>> their church building in that place by their Catholic > > enemies.> While > > > > > > >>> it was being demolished Mr. Prioleau gathered his > > congregation> about > > > > > > >>> him, and after he had addresed them regarding their > > plans for > > the > > > > > > >>> future, they determined to embark for England. How > > many followed > > > him > > > > > > >>> is not known, but the names of a number of French families > > > denizened > > > > > > >>> the same day that Mr. Prioleau and his family were > > denizened in > > > > > > >>> England, names that in later years are familiar in > > Carolina,> > indicate > > > > > > >>> reasons for the supposition that at least a number > > followedtheir > > > > > > >>> spiritual leader to England and subsequently to South > > Carolina."> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> It may be true that many members of the Pons Church > > followedtheir > > > > > > >> pastor to England. It is also true that many families > > denizenedin > > > > > > >> England on the same day as Rev. Prioleau did follow him to > > > Carolina. > > > > > > >> The list is published in The Huguenot Society of London, > > > > QuartoSeries, > > > > > > >> Volume XVIII, pp 182-192. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> However, I have yet to find a person in the denization > > list that > > > > > > >> was listed in the existing Pons registers (other than Rev. > > Prioleau > > > > > > >> and his family). Neither have I found a name in early > > Carolina> that > > > > > > >> appears in the Pons registers. I keep hoping to find > > one. What > > I > > > > > > >> have from the Pons registers is at - > > > > > > >> http://199.4.147.11/gen/pons/pons-sort.txt > > > > > > >> The complete excel spreadsheet is at - > > > > > > >> http://199.4.147.11/gen/pons/releve_pons.xls > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> There are families in Carolina that are supposed to be > > from Pons, > > > > > > >> but I have not found them in any Pons documentation > > yet. If > > > somebody > > > > > > >> finds a name in the lists above, please let me know! > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Rev. Prioleau was well known in France with relatives that > > > > > > >> preached elsewhere in France as well as relatives in other > > > > > > >> Huguenot churches. There were also synod's held in > > Pons. So most > > > > > > >> of those who followed him to Carolina knew him well, > > but do not > > > > > > >> seem to have been members of his church. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> The Pons story is included in a book that will be published > > around > > > > > > >> October this year by USC Press. "From New Babylon to > > Eden: The > > > > > > >> Huguenots and Their Migration to Colonial South > > Carolina" by > > > > > > >> Van Ruymbeke, Bertrand. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Ray > > > > > > >> >

This is the best site to use. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychemun/prison.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Enoch Bordeaux > Jason, thanks for the info. How can I access a web sight that will have > these listings in NY records? Woodrow > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 12:41 PM > Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Enoch Bordeaux > > >> Enoch is recorded in the Fort Fisher records as Enoch Bordeaux. >> However, in the New York records, he is recorded as Enoch Mindex and >> Enoch Murdeaux. There is also a conflict on the date of death. It is >> either February 10th, 1865 or April 10th, 1865. >> >> Jason Bordeaux >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2005 8:17 pm >> Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose >> >> > Dee, I mainly was interested in Enoch Bordeaux who was captured >> > at Fort >> > Fisher during the Civil war and taken to Elmira NY as a POW. He >> > is supposed >> > to be buried in Woodlawn National cemetery there but I cannot find >> > him on >> > the list. Someone had told me that he was listed differently with >> > a last >> > name that sounded something like Bordeaux. Some of the info I >> > have also >> > spells Bordeaux as Bourdeaux. Enoch was my GGGrandfather. >> > Tracing his >> > line back to my 10th Greatfather, Jacques de Bordeaux who came from >> > Grenoble, France to Charleston in 1680. Jacques parents were >> > Evremond de >> > Bordeauxand Catherine Fresene, also of Grenoble. Evremond was Son >> > of Pierre >> > de Bordeaux. Pierre was the son of Francis Purcell of Bordeaux. >> > Francis was >> > a deseendent of Sir Godefroy de Bourdieu who fought in the third >> > crusade in >> > the year 1187 and was knighted by King Phillip II of France. Any >> > thing you >> > can tell me about this line and especially aboout how Enoch >> > Bordeaux is >> > listed in the Woodlawn registry will be greatly appreciated. >> > Thanks again, >> > Woodrow Smith-- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Dee Thompson" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:47 PM >> > Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose >> > >> > >> > > Hi Ray, >> > > Absolutely! But are you saying BOUREAU (1680s) or BOURDEAUX? If >> > BOURDEAUX >> > > they are always listed >> > > under DE BOURDEAUX (1690s). Who are you looking for? >> > > Dee. >> > > >> > > For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for >> > lookups,refer >> > > to this link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: <> >> > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 1:14 PM >> > > Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? >> > Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose> >> > > >> > > > Dee, were there any Boreaux (Bourdeaux) in this movement to >> > the US. >> > This >> > > > seems about the same time that my Bordauxs came to the >> > US. ---- >> > > > Original Message ----- >> > > > From: "Dee Thompson" <[email protected]> >> > > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 6:19 PM >> > > > Subject: [NCBLADEN-L] Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Ray, >> > > > > >From "The First Settlers of South Carolina, 1670-1700" >> > > > > GILLARD, CLEREMONDE >> > > > > See Gaillard, Pierre >> > > > > >> > > > > GAILLARD, ELIZABETH >> > > > > See Gaillard, Pierre >> > > > > >> > > > > GAILLARD, ESTER >> > > > > See Gaillard, Joachim >> > > > > >> > > > > GAILLARD, JEAN >> > > > > See Gaillard, Joachim >> > > > > >> > > > > GAILLARD, JOACHIM >> > > > > Arrived before 1690, Son of Jean Gaillard and Marie Gaillard at >> > > > Montpellier >> > > > > in Languedoc. Ester Gaillard, his wife, daughter of Andre >> > Paparel and >> > > > > Caterine Paparel of Bouin in Forest. Jean and Pierre >> > Gaillard, their >> > > > > children. >> > > > > >> > > > > GAILLARD, JOHN >> > > > > Arrived before 24 September 1695 >> > > > > >> > > > > GAILLARD, MAGDELAN >> > > > > Arrived in Carolina before 19 March 1694, See also De Bourdeaux, >> > > Jacques. >> > > > > >> > > > > GAILLARD, PIERRE >> > > > > Arrived before 19 March 1694. Born in Cherneaux in Poitou, >> > son of >> > Pierre >> > > > > Gaillard and Jacquete Jolain. Elizabeth Leclair, his wife. >> > Clermonde,> > their >> > > > > daughter, born in Carolina. Elizabeth and Marthe Melet, >> > daughters of >> > > Jean >> > > > > Melet and the said Elizabeth Leclair. >> > > > > >> > > > > GAILLARD, PIERRE (younger) >> > > > > See Gaillard, Joachim >> > > > > >> > > > > PRIOLEAU, ELIAS (French Minister) >> > > > > Arrived in Carolina before 1690. A native of Xaintonge, >> > France, he was >> > > the >> > > > > son of Samuel Prioleau and Jeanne Merlat. His wife was Jeanne >> > Burgeand, >> > > > born >> > > > > in L'isle ge Re. Their daughter Jeanne was born in St. Jean >> > D'Angely;> > their >> > > > > children, Samuel, Marie, and Ester, were born in Carolina. >> > > > > >> > > > > Cites listed. for all. Let me know if you want them. >> > > > > >> > > > > >From "Historic Ramblin's Through Berkeley" >> > > > > The Ravenel List of persons desiring naturalization (1696): >> > > > > Total 59 >> > > > > Pierre Gaillard >> > > > > Joachim Gaillard >> > > > > >> > > > > >From "South Carolina Begins: The Records of a Proprietary >> > Colony,> > 1663-1721" >> > > > > [I am only listing the 1700 or before Wills] >> > > > > Gaillard, Susannah, 1700-1701 >> > > > > >> > > > > >From "Abstracts of Records of Secretary of the Province South >> > Carolina >> > > > > 1692-1721" >> > > > > paraphrased: grant of 400 acres bounding on N on Santee >> > River, 29 Mar. >> > > > 1700 >> > > > > by Hon. Lords Props., to Jean Gaillard . >> > > > > >> > > > > >From "Warrants of Lands in South Carolina 1672-1711" >> > > > > In part: "Isaac Caillabeuf hath made it apeare that he hath at >> > > his:proper >> > > > > cost & charge Imported into ye Province of Carolina Six >> > persons aged >> > > above >> > > > > Sixteen yeares to plant & Inhabit in ye said Province named >> > Isaac> > Caillabeuf >> > > > > [,] Rachel Caillabeuf [,] Peter Gallard & Magdelan Gallard >> > [,] Mary >> > > > Ozembert >> > > > > [,] James Benes ye names of all wch persons were registred >> > in the >> > > Secrtys >> > > > > ofice wthin fourteen dayes after theire Respective arrivall >> > in ye >> > > province >> > > > > aforesaid . . This is a "headright" document with land >> > granted 19 >> > March >> > > > > 1693/4. >> > > > > >> > > > > Peter Galiard had a warrant for five hundred acres of Land >> > Dated ye >> > 26th >> > > > of >> > > > > october 1704. >> > > > > Elisha Prioleau had a warrant for five hundred acres of Land >> > Dated ye >> > > 8th >> > > > > day of 9br 1704 >> > > > > >> > > > > EARLIEST MENTION OF GAILLARD >> > > > > >From "Warrants for Lands in South CArolina 1672-1679" >> > > > > Carrolina Toy are forth with to admeasure and lay out for >> > Richard> > Gilliard >> > > > > one of ye free Persons of this Province one hundred accres >> > of land in >> > > some >> > > > > place not yett laid out or marked to bee laid out for aney other >> > Person >> > > or >> > > > > use, and if same happen uppon aney Navigable River or River >> > Capable of >> > > > being >> > > > > made Navigable you are to allow only ye fifth Pte of depthe >> > by ye >> > watter >> > > > > side and a Certificate fully speciefieing ye situation and >> > bounds> thereof >> > > > > you are to return to us with all Convenient Speede dated >> > this second >> > day >> > > > of >> > > > > November 1678 ------ >> > > > > To Capt. Maurice Mathews Richard Conant Joseph West >> > > > > Sureyr. Generall Andw. Percevall >> > John >> > > Godfrey >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Dee >> > > > > For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used >> > for lookups, >> > > > refer >> > > > > to this link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm >> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > From: Kinta Delamain <[email protected]> >> > > > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:37 AM >> > > > > Subject: RE: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Hi Ray, >> > > > > > I checked out some of my Huguenot info and found - >> > > > > > Alcimus GAILLARD, b. 1716, d.1754 as the second husband of >> > Elizabeth >> > > > dau >> > > > > > of John GENDRON and Elizabeth MAZYCK. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > And from John Coming BALL and wife Catherine GENDRON - >> > there is a >> > > son, >> > > > > > Elias, b. 11 May 1744-- ( he was of Wambaw Plantation - >> > and a >> > Tory) >> > > > that >> > > > > > marries a Catherine, dau of Theodore GAILLARD and Eleanor >> > CORDES> > > > >> > > > > > Don't have any info on from whence they came etc - but it >> > seems the >> > > > name >> > > > > > was around early 1700s -- >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Kinta >> > > > > > >> > > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > > From: Ray Timmons [mailto:[email protected]] >> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 12:57 PM >> > > > > > To: [email protected] >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Huguenot] Pons? Gourdin,Gaillard,DuBose >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks for pointing out the Gourdin name, that needs >> > > > > > research. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Neither Jacob Gaillard, his father Fransois, nor his family >> > > > > > appear in the list that was denized with Rev. Prioleau. >> > > > > > Nor can I find this Gaillard family in early Carolina. There >> > > > > > may have been children not listed that made it to Carolina. >> > > > > > Does anybody know if it is written anywhere that there >> > > > > > was a Gaillard from Pons? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Louis DuBose is listed as a Godfather, so we don't know if >> > > > > > he was a member or not. But anyway, he is not in the list >> > > > > > that was denized with Rev. Prioleau (there are several DuBose/ >> > > > > > DuBois entries in other years). I don't know of any >> > > > > > evidence of a Louis DuBose from Pons or his descendants in >> > > > > > Carolina. I have seen the DuBose name in many registers in >> > > > > > different areas of France. I believe that the Carolina >> > > > > > Louis DuBose was from the Normandy area (but could have >> > > > > > visited Pons during the Baptism of his Grandchild). DuBose >> > > > > > folks please let me know if I am wrong! >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Since Hirsch says it was a transplantation of the Pons >> > > > > > Church, I expected to find many definite names. Being >> > > > > > sure of even one has been difficult. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > But there is no church roll, so we have the problem of >> > > > > > those that were members, but did not have births, marriages >> > > > > > or deaths during the time period of surviving registers. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Ray >> > > > > > >> > > > > > katherine t fowler wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I found Gourdin, Gaillard and DuBois. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Kit F. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Timmons" >> > <[email protected]>> > > > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:48 PM >> > > > > > > Subject: [Huguenot] Stories that are repeated once they >> > are in >> > > Print - >> > > > > > Pons >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> One such story seems to have been written by Arthur >> > Henry Hirsch >> > in >> > > > > > >> "The Huguenots of Colonial South Carolina". It may be >> > based on a >> > > > > > >> the writings of Alexandre Crottet (or a misread of his >> > writings).> > > > >> At any rate, Hirsch says - >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>> "The Charles Town French Church was an extension, or >> > perhaps> better, >> > > > > > >>> a transferred reestablishment of the French Protestant >> > Church of >> > > > > > >>> Pons, France, whose pastor was Elias Prioleau. He, >> > with his >> > > > > > >>> congregation, in April, 1687(sic), witnessed the >> > destruction of >> > > > > > >>> their church building in that place by their Catholic >> > enemies.> While >> > > > > > >>> it was being demolished Mr. Prioleau gathered his >> > congregation> about >> > > > > > >>> him, and after he had addresed them regarding their >> > plans for >> > the >> > > > > > >>> future, they determined to embark for England. How >> > many followed >> > > him >> > > > > > >>> is not known, but the names of a number of French families >> > > denizened >> > > > > > >>> the same day that Mr. Prioleau and his family were >> > denizened in >> > > > > > >>> England, names that in later years are familiar in >> > Carolina,> > indicate >> > > > > > >>> reasons for the supposition that at least a number >> > followedtheir >> > > > > > >>> spiritual leader to England and subsequently to South >> > Carolina."> > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> It may be true that many members of the Pons Church >> > followedtheir >> > > > > > >> pastor to England. It is also true that many families >> > denizenedin >> > > > > > >> England on the same day as Rev. Prioleau did follow him to >> > > Carolina. >> > > > > > >> The list is published in The Huguenot Society of London, >> > > > QuartoSeries, >> > > > > > >> Volume XVIII, pp 182-192. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> However, I have yet to find a person in the denization >> > list that >> > > > > > >> was listed in the existing Pons registers (other than Rev. >> > Prioleau >> > > > > > >> and his family). Neither have I found a name in early >> > Carolina> that >> > > > > > >> appears in the Pons registers. I keep hoping to find >> > one. What >> > I >> > > > > > >> have from the Pons registers is at - >> > > > > > >> http://199.4.147.11/gen/pons/pons-sort.txt >> > > > > > >> The complete excel spreadsheet is at - >> > > > > > >> http://199.4.147.11/gen/pons/releve_pons.xls >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> There are families in Carolina that are supposed to be >> > from Pons, >> > > > > > >> but I have not found them in any Pons documentation >> > yet. If >> > > somebody >> > > > > > >> finds a name in the lists above, please let me know! >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> Rev. Prioleau was well known in France with relatives that >> > > > > > >> preached elsewhere in France as well as relatives in other >> > > > > > >> Huguenot churches. There were also synod's held in >> > Pons. So most >> > > > > > >> of those who followed him to Carolina knew him well, >> > but do not >> > > > > > >> seem to have been members of his church. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> The Pons story is included in a book that will be published >> > around >> > > > > > >> October this year by USC Press. "From New Babylon to >> > Eden: The >> > > > > > >> Huguenots and Their Migration to Colonial South >> > Carolina" by >> > > > > > >> Van Ruymbeke, Bertrand. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> Ray >> > > > > > >> >> > >