Yep. The last time I was in Butlers Cafe it was owned by Ticket Taylor. Butch you are young enough to know him. Maybe you were even one of the lucky ones that got a ticket for a "glass pac Muffler" I think they were called. Butch or Jim or anyone else Do you know of the outcome of the old Believed to be Russ Cemetery some where on the Maryanna Russ Bridger land south on 87. I keep thinking I'll come up with a burial place for some of the Russes on that side of the River. I believe that most of the Russes from the Kelly side of the River were buried at Carvers Creek Methodist Church until Argulus Poynter Russ #1 died in 1884. The latest one that I know of buried at Carvers Creek was John Russ 1776-1838. Argulus Poynter was his son. I keep wondering why they carried their dead across the river for burial. At that time they probably had to have a mule and cart to get to the river then a row boat to get across then be met by a mule and cart to get the body to the cemetery. Logistics must have been hard. My supposition for this is because Kelly is on the low side of the river and was subject to flooding they were concerned about the body not staying buried.. I can remember in 1945 the community entirely flooded with only four houses not flooded. (The Marine Core brought in Amphibious Ducks and made regular routes carrying food and cigarettes to homes where the people could move upstairs. If you remember Mrs Durham the public health nurse, She came in by Piper Cub and landed on the highway. She and her cohorts set up on the porch of Mr H. R. Allen's store. Dave Allen the Dentist in E-town today's grandfather. She enlisted the help of Isabelle Lomax a tall Black lady. Everyone had to have a series of shots so we were shoved up close enough to Isabelle where she could get us. She wrapped her arms and legs around you and you got your shot. First hand experience.) Anyway the water came right to the edge of the cemetery and I remember when the water was still rising people being concerned about bodies floating up. I can only assume that was the concern that caused burial at Carvers Creek. Come to think of it there was no church in Kelly at that time either. The cemetery that the AP Russ is buried in is Kelly's Cove and has been subject to many floodings and is almost gone. The last time I was there I saw only two marked graves a Charles Elwell and James H. Allen (but his new stone was put there by Leon Smith the lawyer maybe in the 1950's) PS I was only five when this flood happened but I remember it like it was yesterday. The night the dam broke I remember seeing people walking down the road with a leash on a mule and a cow and pigs. Even at that age I knew it looked stupid to put a leash on a pig. I also remember going down the river road to about a mile from the river banks and standing barefoot 10-12 feet from the water and how fast the water was 10-12 feet behind you. All it took was Mama reminding me "Kay there are snakes in that water and I was out of there. That same night after I was in bed I heard Mama say to my grandmother " I never thought Bill would be building a pig pen at 2:30 in the morning." I listened and Daddy and Granddaddy were hammering away on a pig pen in our backyard for granddaddy's pigs. Our house was known not to be underwater. The point I started to state was that the area flooded so often the locals knew just how to react and how to seek shelter. I'd better hush before I get gotten but It fascinates me how people learned to live so successfully on land that could be unpredictable. Kay ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.