I'm sure the Dempsey Carroll in the 1790s court min is Sr. Dempsey Carroll, Jr. comes in the 11 Feb 1795 court mins. I'm not following these family lines, and don't know who are the real parents of Abraham Herring who had a son, Abraham Herring who is the orphan that Dempsey Caroll, Sr. is caring for. 15 FEBRUARY 1791, Tuesday HERRING WILL: The last will and testament of Abraham Herring was proved and ordered registered. 11 FEBRUARY 1795, Wednesday JURORS: Ordered the following persons, to wit: West Pope, Dempsey Carroll, Jr., William Wiggins, William Peterson, Stephen Butler, William Dollar, ------ 13 MAY 1801, Wednesday Ordered that Stephen King, Hardy Holmes and Benjamin Carr be a committee to settle the estate of Abraham Herring, an orphan, with the guardian Dempsey Carroll, and deliver the orphan to the present guardian James Oates. Wayne A References: <20071109.112155.2016.3.mwatkinson@juno.com> Thank you, Wayne!! I did NOT have any record of these court items. Do you happen to know if this is Dempsey, Jr. or Sr.? Dempsey, Jr. was in the militia in the Revolution. Then he settled for a while in Sampson before going to SC and AL. It is difficult to distinguish between Sr. and Jr. unless they are both named in the same document. I believe Martha was married to Dempsey, Sr., but some others believe that Martha was the wife of Dempsey, Jr. This seems as though the young boy, Abraham Herring, inherited land from his deceased father, Abraham Herring. Is that what you understand? Do you know if Abraham Herring who died was also a negro, and if so was he a free man? Are the boy and his mother Jude, free persons? Could a slave own land? Genealogy seems to find more questions than it finds answers, doesn't it? Lura >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <mwatkinson@juno.com> To: <NCBladen-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: [NCBLADEN] Dempsey Carrol (Carrell) Dempsey Carroll appears several times in the Sampson Court Minutes in the 1790s related to Abraham Herring. 13 FEBRUARY 1793, Wednesday CARETAKER of CHILD: Ordered that Dempsey Carrell and his wife Martha keep in their possession a Negro woman called Jude for the full maintenance of her son, Abraham Herring. 13 AUGUST 1794, Wednesday ORPHAN'S LAND: Ordered that Dempsey Carroll have leave to cultivate the cleared land belonging to the orphan of Abraham Herring, deceased, that he keep the same in good repair, and not make use of the timber thereon except for fencing. Also that he pay all taxes which may be assessed. 12 NOVEMBER 1798 HERRING GUARDIAN: Dempsey Carroll exhibited to this court an account, praying as guardian to a minor child of Abraham Herring, deceased, that he be allowed payment for services done said child. Ordered therefore he be allowed 15 pounds from the estate. 14 FEBRUARY 1797, Tuesday HERRING GUARDIAN: Ordered that Dempsey Carroll be allowed 36 pounds and 4 shillings for his services as guardian to a minor child of Abraham Herring, deceased, up to this term of court. Wayne A ------------Prior Message--------------------------------- I think Dempsey, Sr. is the father of Alexander based on owning adjoining property. Alexander purchased land from Dempsey, Sr. and later sold part of it to Dempsey Carrell, Jr. and Stephen - listed as land granted to Dempsey, Sr. Also, Demcy Carrel signed the marriage bond for Alexander's marriage to Lucy Ryal/Royal in Duplin County in 1783. I think Dempsey, Sr. died around 1802 based on the fact that he was excused from paying poll tax in 1789 because of his age. There were a Demcy Carrol and a Demey Carrol in the 1790 census. One was likely Dempsey, Sr. and one Dempsey, Jr. I do not find a person I believe to be Dempsey, Sr. after 1802, but the court records do not always distinguish between Jr. and Sr. I would like to learn... - Is there an estate settlement record I have not yet found for Dempsey, Sr. around 1802? - Is this bond related to an estate settlement? - Is Levina Jones the daughter of Dempsey, Sr. and the sister of Alexander, Stephen, & Dempsey, Jr? - Who did Levina Jones marry? Thanks to anyone who can help, Lura CARROLL Southard
Wayne, Forgive my tardiness in thanking you for this additional information regarding Dempsey Carrol/ell/oll of Sampson County. I will continue my search for Levina JONES, who I thought might have married into the Joneses of Bladen County. I wondered.... Are you related to these Carrolls? Also... this is a long shot.... My anti-SPAM folder threw out a letter from someone with a long string of numbers in front of a name I didn't recognize. That letter was never read. I just noticed about mid-way below that your address has a long string of numbers like that. Did you by chance write to me off list, and if you did, will you please write again? Thanks, Lura CARROLL Southard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <mwatkinson@juno.com> To: <NCBladen-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 2:50 PM Subject: [NCBLADEN] Dempsey Carrol (Carrell) I'm sure the Dempsey Carroll in the 1790s court min is Sr. Dempsey Carroll, Jr. comes in the 11 Feb 1795 court mins. I'm not following these family lines, and don't know who are the real parents of Abraham Herring who had a son, Abraham Herring who is the orphan that Dempsey Caroll, Sr. is caring for. 15 FEBRUARY 1791, Tuesday HERRING WILL: The last will and testament of Abraham Herring was proved and ordered registered. 11 FEBRUARY 1795, Wednesday JURORS: Ordered the following persons, to wit: West Pope, Dempsey Carroll, Jr., William Wiggins, William Peterson, Stephen Butler, William Dollar, ------ 13 MAY 1801, Wednesday Ordered that Stephen King, Hardy Holmes and Benjamin Carr be a committee to settle the estate of Abraham Herring, an orphan, with the guardian Dempsey Carroll, and deliver the orphan to the present guardian James Oates. Wayne A References: <20071109.112155.2016.3.mwatkinson@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Wayne!! I did NOT have any record of these court items. Do you happen to know if this is Dempsey, Jr. or Sr.? Dempsey, Jr. was in the militia in the Revolution. Then he settled for a while in Sampson before going to SC and AL. It is difficult to distinguish between Sr. and Jr. unless they are both named in the same document. I believe Martha was married to Dempsey, Sr., but some others believe that Martha was the wife of Dempsey, Jr. This seems as though the young boy, Abraham Herring, inherited land from his deceased father, Abraham Herring. Is that what you understand? Do you know if Abraham Herring who died was also a negro, and if so was he a free man? Are the boy and his mother Jude, free persons? Could a slave own land? Genealogy seems to find more questions than it finds answers, doesn't it? Lura >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <mwatkinson@juno.com> To: <NCBladen-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: [NCBLADEN] Dempsey Carrol (Carrell) Dempsey Carroll appears several times in the Sampson Court Minutes in the 1790s related to Abraham Herring. 13 FEBRUARY 1793, Wednesday CARETAKER of CHILD: Ordered that Dempsey Carrell and his wife Martha keep in their possession a Negro woman called Jude for the full maintenance of her son, Abraham Herring. 13 AUGUST 1794, Wednesday ORPHAN'S LAND: Ordered that Dempsey Carroll have leave to cultivate the cleared land belonging to the orphan of Abraham Herring, deceased, that he keep the same in good repair, and not make use of the timber thereon except for fencing. Also that he pay all taxes which may be assessed. 12 NOVEMBER 1798 HERRING GUARDIAN: Dempsey Carroll exhibited to this court an account, praying as guardian to a minor child of Abraham Herring, deceased, that he be allowed payment for services done said child. Ordered therefore he be allowed 15 pounds from the estate. 14 FEBRUARY 1797, Tuesday HERRING GUARDIAN: Ordered that Dempsey Carroll be allowed 36 pounds and 4 shillings for his services as guardian to a minor child of Abraham Herring, deceased, up to this term of court. Wayne A ------------Prior Message--------------------------------- I think Dempsey, Sr. is the father of Alexander based on owning adjoining property. Alexander purchased land from Dempsey, Sr. and later sold part of it to Dempsey Carrell, Jr. and Stephen - listed as land granted to Dempsey, Sr. Also, Demcy Carrel signed the marriage bond for Alexander's marriage to Lucy Ryal/Royal in Duplin County in 1783. I think Dempsey, Sr. died around 1802 based on the fact that he was excused from paying poll tax in 1789 because of his age. There were a Demcy Carrol and a Demey Carrol in the 1790 census. One was likely Dempsey, Sr. and one Dempsey, Jr. I do not find a person I believe to be Dempsey, Sr. after 1802, but the court records do not always distinguish between Jr. and Sr. I would like to learn... - Is there an estate settlement record I have not yet found for Dempsey, Sr. around 1802? - Is this bond related to an estate settlement? - Is Levina Jones the daughter of Dempsey, Sr. and the sister of Alexander, Stephen, & Dempsey, Jr? - Who did Levina Jones marry? Thanks to anyone who can help, Lura CARROLL Southard