-----Original Message----- >From: Lura <luraj@triad.rr.com> >Sent: Nov 13, 2007 12:07 PM >To: NCBladen-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN] Dempsey Carrol (Carrell) > >Wayne, > >Forgive my tardiness in thanking you for this additional information >regarding Dempsey Carrol/ell/oll of Sampson County. I will continue >my search for Levina JONES, who I thought might have married into the >Joneses of Bladen County. > >I wondered.... Are you related to these Carrolls? > >Also... this is a long shot.... My anti-SPAM folder threw out a letter >from someone with a long string of numbers in front of a name I didn't >recognize. That letter was never read. I just noticed about mid-way >below that your address has a long string of numbers like that. Did >you by chance write to me off list, and if you did, will you please >write again? > >Thanks, >Lura CARROLL Southard > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mwatkinson@juno.com> >To: <NCBladen-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 2:50 PM >Subject: [NCBLADEN] Dempsey Carrol (Carrell) > > >I'm sure the Dempsey Carroll in the 1790s court min is Sr. Dempsey >Carroll, Jr. comes in the 11 Feb 1795 court mins. > >I'm not following these family lines, and don't know who are the real >parents of Abraham Herring who had a son, Abraham Herring who is the >orphan that Dempsey Caroll, Sr. is caring for. > >15 FEBRUARY 1791, Tuesday >HERRING WILL: The last will and testament of Abraham Herring was >proved and ordered registered. > >11 FEBRUARY 1795, Wednesday >JURORS: Ordered the following persons, to wit: West Pope, Dempsey >Carroll, Jr., William Wiggins, William Peterson, Stephen Butler, >William Dollar, ------ > >13 MAY 1801, Wednesday > Ordered that Stephen King, Hardy Holmes and Benjamin Carr be a >committee to settle the estate of Abraham Herring, an orphan, with >the guardian Dempsey Carroll, and deliver the orphan to the present >guardian James Oates. > >Wayne A > >References: <20071109.112155.2016.3.mwatkinson@juno.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >Thank you, Wayne!! I did NOT have any record of these court items. > >Do you happen to know if this is Dempsey, Jr. or Sr.? Dempsey, Jr. >was in the militia in the Revolution. Then he settled for a while in >Sampson before going to SC and AL. It is difficult to distinguish >between Sr. and Jr. unless they are both named in the same document. >I believe Martha was married to Dempsey, Sr., but some others believe >that Martha was the wife of Dempsey, Jr. > >This seems as though the young boy, Abraham Herring, inherited land >from his deceased father, Abraham Herring. Is that what you >understand? Do you know if Abraham Herring who died was also a negro, >and if so was he a free man? Are the boy and his mother Jude, free >persons? Could a slave own land? > >Genealogy seems to find more questions than it finds answers, doesn't >it? > >Lura >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mwatkinson@juno.com> >To: <NCBladen-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:21 PM >Subject: [NCBLADEN] Dempsey Carrol (Carrell) > >Dempsey Carroll appears several times in the Sampson Court Minutes in >the 1790s related to Abraham Herring. > >13 FEBRUARY 1793, Wednesday >CARETAKER of CHILD: Ordered that Dempsey Carrell and his wife Martha >keep in their possession a Negro woman called Jude for the full >maintenance of her son, Abraham Herring. > >13 AUGUST 1794, Wednesday >ORPHAN'S LAND: Ordered that Dempsey Carroll have leave to cultivate >the cleared land belonging to the orphan of Abraham Herring, deceased, >that he keep the same in good repair, and not make use of the timber >thereon except for fencing. Also that he pay all taxes which may be >assessed. > >12 NOVEMBER 1798 >HERRING GUARDIAN: Dempsey Carroll exhibited to this court an account, >praying as guardian to a minor child of Abraham Herring, deceased, >that he be allowed payment for services done said child. Ordered >therefore he be allowed 15 pounds from the estate. > >14 FEBRUARY 1797, Tuesday >HERRING GUARDIAN: Ordered that Dempsey Carroll be allowed 36 pounds >and 4 shillings for his services as guardian to a minor child of >Abraham Herring, deceased, up to this term of court. > >Wayne A > > >------------Prior Message--------------------------------- >I think Dempsey, Sr. is the father of Alexander based on owning >adjoining property. Alexander purchased land from Dempsey, Sr. and >later sold part of it to Dempsey Carrell, Jr. and Stephen - listed as >land granted to Dempsey, Sr. Also, Demcy Carrel signed the marriage >bond for Alexander's marriage to Lucy Ryal/Royal in Duplin County in >1783. > >I think Dempsey, Sr. died around 1802 based on the fact that he was >excused from paying poll tax in 1789 because of his age. There were a >Demcy Carrol and a Demey Carrol in the 1790 census. One was likely >Dempsey, Sr. and one Dempsey, Jr. I do not find a person I believe to >be Dempsey, Sr. after 1802, but the court records do not always >distinguish between Jr. and Sr. > >I would like to learn... >- Is there an estate settlement record I have not yet found for >Dempsey, Sr. around 1802? >- Is this bond related to an estate settlement? >- Is Levina Jones the daughter of Dempsey, Sr. and the sister of >Alexander, Stephen, & Dempsey, Jr? >- Who did Levina Jones marry? > >Thanks to anyone who can help, >Lura CARROLL Southard > >
Hi Jerome, I received two copies of this long thread, but I could not find anything written by you - except the heading of what would have been your letter to the list. I always want input from you, and I still remember how indebted I am too you and that I owe you something in written form. I just can't seem to stop digging long enough to make jam out of the fruit of our labor so far on these CARROLLS from Sampson County. Would you post your letter again to the list? Of if it was information specifically for me, would you send to me at luraj@triad.rr.com ? Thank you, Lura >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. ----- Original Message ----- From: <jdtew@earthlink.net> To: <ncbladen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN] Dempsey Carrol (Carrell) : : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : -----Original Message----- : >From: Lura <luraj@triad.rr.com> : >Sent: Nov 13, 2007 12:07 PM : >To: NCBladen-L@rootsweb.com : >Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN] Dempsey Carrol (Carrell) : > : >Wayne, : > : >Forgive my tardiness in thanking you for this additional information : >regarding Dempsey Carrol/ell/oll of Sampson County. I will continue : >my search for Levina JONES, who I thought might have married into the : >Joneses of Bladen County. : > : >I wondered.... Are you related to these Carrolls? : > : >Also... this is a long shot.... My anti-SPAM folder threw out a letter : >from someone with a long string of numbers in front of a name I didn't : >recognize. That letter was never read. I just noticed about mid-way : >below that your address has a long string of numbers like that. Did : >you by chance write to me off list, and if you did, will you please : >write again? : > : >Thanks, : >Lura CARROLL Southard : > : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : > : >----- Original Message ----- : >From: <mwatkinson@juno.com> : >To: <NCBladen-L@rootsweb.com> : >Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 2:50 PM : >Subject: [NCBLADEN] Dempsey Carrol (Carrell) : > : >I'm sure the Dempsey Carroll in the 1790s court min is Sr. Dempsey : >Carroll, Jr. comes in the 11 Feb 1795 court mins. : > : >I'm not following these family lines, and don't know who are the real : >parents of Abraham Herring who had a son, Abraham Herring who is the : >orphan that Dempsey Caroll, Sr. is caring for. : > : >15 FEBRUARY 1791, Tuesday : >HERRING WILL: The last will and testament of Abraham Herring was : >proved and ordered registered. : > : >11 FEBRUARY 1795, Wednesday : >JURORS: Ordered the following persons, to wit: West Pope, Dempsey : >Carroll, Jr., William Wiggins, William Peterson, Stephen Butler, : >William Dollar, ------ : > : >13 MAY 1801, Wednesday : > Ordered that Stephen King, Hardy Holmes and Benjamin Carr be a : >committee to settle the estate of Abraham Herring, an orphan, with : >the guardian Dempsey Carroll, and deliver the orphan to the present : >guardian James Oates. : > : >Wayne A : > : >References: <20071109.112155.2016.3.mwatkinson@juno.com> : > : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : > : >Thank you, Wayne!! I did NOT have any record of these court items. : > : >Do you happen to know if this is Dempsey, Jr. or Sr.? Dempsey, Jr. : >was in the militia in the Revolution. Then he settled for a while in : >Sampson before going to SC and AL. It is difficult to distinguish : >between Sr. and Jr. unless they are both named in the same document. : >I believe Martha was married to Dempsey, Sr., but some others believe : >that Martha was the wife of Dempsey, Jr. : > : >This seems as though the young boy, Abraham Herring, inherited land : >from his deceased father, Abraham Herring. Is that what you : >understand? Do you know if Abraham Herring who died was also a negro, : >and if so was he a free man? Are the boy and his mother Jude, free : >persons? Could a slave own land? : > : >Genealogy seems to find more questions than it finds answers, doesn't : >it? : > : >Lura : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : > : >----- Original Message ----- : >From: <mwatkinson@juno.com> : >To: <NCBladen-L@rootsweb.com> : >Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:21 PM : >Subject: [NCBLADEN] Dempsey Carrol (Carrell) : > : >Dempsey Carroll appears several times in the Sampson Court Minutes in : >the 1790s related to Abraham Herring. : > : >13 FEBRUARY 1793, Wednesday : >CARETAKER of CHILD: Ordered that Dempsey Carrell and his wife Martha : >keep in their possession a Negro woman called Jude for the full : >maintenance of her son, Abraham Herring. : > : >13 AUGUST 1794, Wednesday : >ORPHAN'S LAND: Ordered that Dempsey Carroll have leave to cultivate : >the cleared land belonging to the orphan of Abraham Herring, deceased, : >that he keep the same in good repair, and not make use of the timber : >thereon except for fencing. Also that he pay all taxes which may be : >assessed. : > : >12 NOVEMBER 1798 : >HERRING GUARDIAN: Dempsey Carroll exhibited to this court an account, : >praying as guardian to a minor child of Abraham Herring, deceased, : >that he be allowed payment for services done said child. Ordered : >therefore he be allowed 15 pounds from the estate. : > : >14 FEBRUARY 1797, Tuesday : >HERRING GUARDIAN: Ordered that Dempsey Carroll be allowed 36 pounds : >and 4 shillings for his services as guardian to a minor child of : >Abraham Herring, deceased, up to this term of court. : > : >Wayne A : > : >------------Prior Message--------------------------------- : >I think Dempsey, Sr. is the father of Alexander based on owning : >adjoining property. Alexander purchased land from Dempsey, Sr. and : >later sold part of it to Dempsey Carrell, Jr. and Stephen - listed as : >land granted to Dempsey, Sr. Also, Demcy Carrel signed the marriage : >bond for Alexander's marriage to Lucy Ryal/Royal in Duplin County in : >1783. : > : >I think Dempsey, Sr. died around 1802 based on the fact that he was : >excused from paying poll tax in 1789 because of his age. There were a : >Demcy Carrol and a Demey Carrol in the 1790 census. One was likely : >Dempsey, Sr. and one Dempsey, Jr. I do not find a person I believe to : >be Dempsey, Sr. after 1802, but the court records do not always : >distinguish between Jr. and Sr. : > : >I would like to learn... : >- Is there an estate settlement record I have not yet found for : >Dempsey, Sr. around 1802? : >- Is this bond related to an estate settlement? : >- Is Levina Jones the daughter of Dempsey, Sr. and the sister of : >Alexander, Stephen, & Dempsey, Jr? : >- Who did Levina Jones marry? : > : >Thanks to anyone who can help, : >Lura CARROLL Southard