Hi Kathy, Unfortunately I got rather carried away with this lookup. I do not believe that there is a Will for Mary, even in the Loose Papers of Georgia (which I have checked exhaustively). >From Book # 682 MARRIAGE AGREEMENTS 1748-1783 WILLIAM BUTLER, merchant, Berkeley Co., S.C., with ELIZABETH ELLIOTT, spinster, dau. of Wm. Elliott decd., planter, Colleton Co., S.C. Trustees: Thos. Elliott and Elisha Butler, Colleton Co., S.C. Part of her estate inherited from her grandfather, Thomas Elliott. Names her brothers: Stephen and Wm. Elliott; sister Mary Elliott (all under age) Dec. 10, 1748. (recorded in Savannah Mar. 3, 1749) (J, p. 409) THOMAS CAMBER, planter, Savannah, with DOROTHY BUTLER, spinster, Great Ogeechee, Trustees: Elisha Butler Great Ogeechee and Jas. Read, Savannah, Wit: Eliz. Butler, Jno. Maxwell. Apr. 10, 1762. (recorded Jan. 31, 1774) (Y-1, p. 237) THOMAS CHISHOLM, with MARY SPENCER, widow, Savannah. Trustee: Shem Butler, St. Philips Par., Ga. For 8 slaves from estate of Mary's father, Joseph Butler, dec'd. Names Mary's children: John, Joseph, Hannah, and Mary Spencer. Wit: Jas. H. Casey, Wm. Jones. Aug. 9, 1776. (Y-2, p. 487) INDEX OF BRIDES Spencer, Mary, widow of Thomas GENEALOGICAL DATA Butler, Joseph, Christ Church, gave 7 slaves in trust of James Butler (son of Joseph), planter, St. Philips Par., Ga., for Joseph's grandson, Shem Butler (under 21 years), younger son of Shem Butler, Sr., planter, St. Philips Par. If Shem, Jr.. dies before 21, the slaves to go to children of Mary Spencer, wife of Thomas Spencer, planter, Christ Church Par. Apl. 28, 1768. (recorded Nov. 20, 1775) (Y-2, p. 458) Butler, Joseph, Christ Church Par., gave 7 slaves in trust to James Butler, planter (son of Joseph), St. Philips Par., for Elizabeth Giles (nee Butler, and dau. of Joseph Butler, Jr., decd., and Eleanor Giles), under 21 years. Apl. 28, 1768. (recorded Nov. 20, 1775) (Y-2, p. 460) Butler, Sarah, widow, S.C., to Elisha and William Butler, planters, Ga., all of her claim to 2 slaves, formerly owned by Benj. Butler. Wit: John Gray, Edw. Bollinger. Mar. 24, 1756. (recorded Jan. 31, 1774) (Y-1. p. 237) Spencer, John, sold to George Basil Spencer, his interest in estate of William Spencer, decd., Savannah, whose will, made Jan. 27, 1776, left his estate to his sons John and Geo. Basil. May 17, 1777. (HH, p.66) Spencer, Mary, the elder, widow, Savannah, gave 2 slaves to granddaughter, Hannah Elizabeth Spencer. Wit: Shem Butler, James Butler. Nov. 11, 1775. (Y-2, p.486) >From Book # 214 and 5 others I can only find two mentions of a Thomas Spencer in the Revolutionary War (except from Maryland) and both of those cites state that he deserted the Colleton County Detachment South Carolina Militia), under the command of Captain Samuel Elliott. This was reported between Nov. 8, 1759 and Jan. 8, 1760. >From Book # 811 CHISOLM, Thomas, Esq, late Maj. In the Continental Line of Ga., d. his plantation in Burke Co., 10/21/1789. AC (Augusta Chronicle) 10/24/1789. He is not listed in the gravestones of Burke County. CHISOLM, Mrs. Mary, wife of Thomas Chisholm, d. no date. GG (Georgia Gazette, Savannah) 7/24/1783 NOTE: there are many Butler deaths and marriages in this book. >From Book # 496 BUTLER, SPENCER, Thomas, d. (1773), LA:308 (Colonial Administration, Loose Papers) SPENCER, Mary, h (heir), AA:224-7; LW:341 SPENCER, Jane, h (heir), AA:224-7; LW:341 SPENCER, Elizabeth, h (heir), AA:224-7; LW:341 SPENCER, Jo(h)n, h (heir), AA:224-7; LW:341 SPENCER, Sarah, h (heir), AA:224-7; LW:341 SPENCER, Susannah, h (heir), AA:224-7; LW:341 SPENCER, Joseph William, h (heir), AA:224-7; LW:341 SPENCER, William Henry, h (heir), AA:224-7; LW:341 SPENCER, George Basil/Bazel, h (heir), AA:224-7; LW:341 >From Book # 98 BURKE COUNTY Thomas Chisholm b. c1730 d. 10/21/1789 Served as Captain of the 5th Company of the Georgia Battalion under Colonel Lachlan McIntosh and later as a Lieutenant-Colonel and member of the Supreme Executive Council. >From Book # 879 BUTLER, Elizabeth, 1788, Chatham, Will Book C, page 1 BUTLER, John, 1848, Chatham, Will Book H, p. 394 BUTLER, Joseph, 1780, Colonial, LWC, GAH (GA. Archives) BUTLER, Joseph, Jr., 1768, Colonial, LWC, GAH BUTLER, Shem, Sr., 1788, Chatham, Will Book C, p. 34 BUTLER, William, 1761, Colonial, Will Book A, p. 64 >From Book # 532 CHISHOLM, Thomas, Jan, 1772, asks for 100 a. near Nath. Miller; July 1774, granted 100 a.; 1782, buys 600 a and 6 cattle, confiscated from Tories. >From Book # 657 BUTLER OF LIBERTY COUNTY Joseph Butler, Esquire, was born ca. 1700, the son of Shem Butler, born ca 1672, died 1718 near Charles Towne, South Carolina. Shem married Esther, probably of Redriffe, near London, England, and they had the following children - Elizabeth, Rebecca, Joseph and Sarah, probably all born in South Carolina. Joseph owned multiple tracts of land on the Great Ogeechee River which included Christ Church Parish as well as St. Matthew's Parish, near the South Carolina border, comprising a tract of 50 acres purchased from James Ross, adjoining Lewis Mutear on the others (sis) side of the river. Altamaha nigh the ferry; his plantation known as White Oak Swamp on Beaver Dam; 100 acres purchased from Lewis Mutear at a place called Barbeque Creek (about 1500 acres); 460 acres on the North Branch of South Newport River; 100 acres in St. Andrew's Parish near the river Altamahaw; 800 acres and 750 acres up the Conuchee in St. John's Paris joining nigh Mitchell Cowpen; 350, 500 and 200 acres in St. Matthew's Parish up the Savannah River, 300 acres, the whole containing 1450 acres. Issue: I. Shem Butler II. Mary Spencer III. James Butler IV. Marget Butler married Mr. Crocker V. Frances Butler VI. Benjamin Butler VII. Shadrach Butler VIII. Masech Butler IX. William Butler, (1715-1761) planter on the Ogeechee River, who predeceased his father. William Butler was granted lots in George Town, and was appointed tax collector and surveyor of highways. He owned an extensive plantation known as Silk Hope, which was established in 1752. Buried in Bonaventure Cemetery and his grave is believed to be the oldest. His wife: Elizabeth Elliott wrote an instrument dated 10 December 1738 (recorded 30 March 1761) stating that all of the possessions to which she will be entitled from the estate of her late father will be held in trust for her without any control of her intended husband, William Butler. Named his brother-in-law, William Elliott. Daughter: Mary Elliott Butler. X. Joseph Butler, Jr., predeceased his father, to whom he left his plantation on the Great Ogechee (sic) River. >From Book # 167 F-49, 50: fenced, hedge. Owner/Mrs. Mary DeRenne, 2/1/1882. Office cards empty. Here Lies the body WILLIAM BUTLER, Esq. One of his Majestys Honourable Council Whose Amiable Qualities And Benevolent Disposition When Living Endeared him to his friends And Dead Excite in them a (?) Regret For the Loss Of so good a Man He was born the (blank) 1715, Died the 29 Jan 1761 >From Book # 54 Butler, Joseph 500 acres, Christ Church Parish Granted October 2, 1759 Grant Book B, page 307 Bounded on the east by William DeBrahm, north by Mathew Mauve. >From Book # 69 Joseph Butler, Christ Church Parish, Esq. Son: Shem, 50 pounds Sterling. Dau: Mary Spencer, 500 pounds, Georgia currency; tract of land containing about 500 acres, that I bought of James Ross, joining Lewis Mutear " on the other side of the river Altamahaw nigh the ferry." Son: James, my plantation known as White Oak Swamp on Beaver Dam and all the land joining it; the 100 acres I bought of Lewis Mutear at a place caled Barbeque Creek, containing about 1500 acres; 100 negroes; all my cattle at Ogechee. Marget Crocker, seven Negroes; the house and lot in Savannah I bought of ? Miller; 250 pounds, Georgia currency; riding chair; two horses. Girl, Frances Butler, that I had by Marget Crocker, tract of land, containing 460 acres, on the North Branch of South Newport; two lots of land (100 acres) in Maegomery (?) which I bought of Charles Pryce; four Negroes, "Boy called Benjamin Butler," three Negroes; my "Rose Due" plantation; the island I bought from Thomas Perkers. "Boy called Shadrech Butler," four Negroes, 100 acres of land in St. Andrews Parish nigh the river Altamahaw. "Boy called Mesech Butler," four Negroes; two tracts of land, one for 800 acres and the other for 750 acres up Conuchee in St. John's Parish, joining nigh Mitchell Cowpen. "Boy called William Butler," four Negroes; tract of land I had of my son, James, containing 350 acres on Great Ogechee and one tract of 500 acres not far from it; 300 acres of a 500-acre tract of which I sold my son, James, 20 acres; two tracts in St. Matthew's Parish up Savannah River, containing 300 acreshe whole containing 1450 acres. Marget Crocker and the five children I had by her, all my plate, household furniture, plantation tools at Rose Due, boats, all cattle and hogs at Rose Due, to be equaly divided by Marget Crocker and the five children. Each child to have a horse. Marget Crocker shall live at Rose Due until Benjamin is twenty years old. Remaining Negroes to be divided among Frances, Benjamin, Shadrach, Masech,, and William Butler. Exors: son, James Butler; William and Edward Telfair, merchants. Wit: Henry Yonge, Joseph Habersham, Samuel Douglass. D: 22 April 1773. P: 5 Aug. 1780. R: n.d. Colonial Loose Will Collection. Joseph Butler, Jr., Great Ogechee, planter. Father: Joseph Butler, Sr., all estate, real and personal. Exor: father. Wit: James Butler; Samuel Small; Marget Crocker, her mark. D: 6 Feb. 1760. P. (with codicil): 18 Feb. 1768. R: 20 Feb. 1768. Codicil-additional bequests to father, Joseph Butler, Sr., tract of land on Great Ogechee River, containing 740 acres which he gave me some time ago by deed of gift. Wit: John Gredire; William Molding, his mark; Michael Mack, his mark. Dated: 5 March 1763. pp. 249-251 WBA. William Butler, Ogechee, planter. Wife: Elizabeth, all estate, Real and personal. Wife to provide for my dau, Mary Elliott Butler, as she shall think proper. Exors: wife, brother-in-law, WilliamElliott. Exors to act as guardians of the person and estate of dau. Mary, until she is twenty-one years of age. Wit: James Mackay; John Maxwell; Joseph Butler, Jr.; James Maxwell, Jr. S: 5 Mar. 1759. P: 26 Mar. 1761 and 26 April 1764. R: 23 June 1761. pp. 64-65 WBA. Additionally, I have the Wills of Elizabeth Butler (recorded 1780) and Shem Butler (recorded 1789) and a dozen LaRoche Wills. There just doesn't seem to be a good stopping point on this lookup. Dee All lookup requests will be permanently archived on the Bladen County Genweb site. For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for lookups refer to this Link: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm _____ From: MITCHHENNING@comcast.net [mailto:MITCHHENNING@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:08 PM To: d7777@worldnet.att.net Subject: RE: Mary La Roche Dee, After seeing the information you have on the La Roach Family and the Huguenot Society, I assumed that you knew who I was speaking of? But, I know what happens when I assume! Anyway, Mary La Roach was born circa 1716, death-August 14, 1754-St. Phillips Parish, Charleston, S.C. (?), married to Joseph Butler December 23, 1731-St. Phillips Parish, Charleston, S.C., had a daughter Mary Butler, born 1737, Savannah, Chatham County Georgia, first she married a Spencer, he died in the American Revolution, then she married Lt. Col. Thomas Chisolm August 26, 1776 in Savannah. I do not mean to be confusing? It seemed you were very knowledgeable, and needed your help. Thank you once again, Kathy -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Dee Thompson" <d7777@worldnet.att.net> Hi Kathy, perhaps a state, or county or even a date range? I don't know if you have the correct death date on her or not - you didn't include it. All lookup requests will be permanently archived on the Bladen County Genweb site. For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for lookups refer to this Link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm _____ From: MITCHHENNING@comcast.net [mailto:MITCHHENNING@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 5:56 PM To: d7777@worldnet.att.net Subject: Mary La Roche Hello, I am in search of records on Mary La Roche married to Joseph Butler. They are my g-g-g-g-g-g Grand Parents. I am not sure I have the correct death date on her? Would like to find a will? Let me put it this way, I will take all the information that you will provide for me. Thank you for the time, hope to hear from you, Kathy